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On 5/3/2023 9:00 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 May 2023 01:43:40 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Wed, 03 May 2023 19:06:31 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
By the way, no bus goes from my house to my destination. Not one.
Ever.
About 15 years ago a bus came within 2 1/2 miles of my home twice a day.
Then the paper mill shut down and that was the only reason for the run.
I see buses around here with one passenger on them. Not economical,
that\'s where all the libtard taxes go.
Years ago I got transferred from our suburban location to the city where
I would have to pay to park. I considered taking the bus but would have
to drive over two miles to a parking area where I could take the bus.
In looking over the bus company\'s literature they mentioned passenger
miles and fuel usage. It calculated out to 9 mpg per passenger which was
much less than half what I got in my car at the time.
On Thu, 04 May 2023 12:19:22 +0100, Frank <\"frank \"@frank.net> wrote:
On 5/3/2023 9:00 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 May 2023 01:43:40 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Wed, 03 May 2023 19:06:31 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
By the way, no bus goes from my house to my destination. Not one.
Ever.
About 15 years ago a bus came within 2 1/2 miles of my home twice a
day.
Then the paper mill shut down and that was the only reason for the run.
I see buses around here with one passenger on them. Not economical,
that\'s where all the libtard taxes go.
Years ago I got transferred from our suburban location to the city where
I would have to pay to park. I considered taking the bus but would have
to drive over two miles to a parking area where I could take the bus.
In looking over the bus company\'s literature they mentioned passenger
miles and fuel usage. It calculated out to 9 mpg per passenger which was
much less than half what I got in my car at the time.
A calculation was made for trains in the UK, they also use more fuel per
passenger than cars. I think they\'re good for very heavy goods, but not
people.
On 5/5/2023 6:32 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 May 2023 12:19:22 +0100, Frank <\"frank \"@frank.net> wrote:
On 5/3/2023 9:00 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 May 2023 01:43:40 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Wed, 03 May 2023 19:06:31 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
By the way, no bus goes from my house to my destination. Not one.
Ever.
About 15 years ago a bus came within 2 1/2 miles of my home twice a
day.
Then the paper mill shut down and that was the only reason for the run.
I see buses around here with one passenger on them. Not economical,
that\'s where all the libtard taxes go.
Years ago I got transferred from our suburban location to the city where
I would have to pay to park. I considered taking the bus but would have
to drive over two miles to a parking area where I could take the bus.
In looking over the bus company\'s literature they mentioned passenger
miles and fuel usage. It calculated out to 9 mpg per passenger which was
much less than half what I got in my car at the time.
A calculation was made for trains in the UK, they also use more fuel per
passenger than cars. I think they\'re good for very heavy goods, but not
people.
Trains too, that is interesting. I once took a train from York to
London and recall not many people on it.
On May 3, 2023 at 6:04:03 PM MST, \"\"Commander Kinsey\"\" wrote
op.14eak1srmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Wed, 03 May 2023 20:59:34 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 3, 2023 at 11:07:38 AM MST, \"\"Commander Kinsey\"\" wrote
op.14dra0rkmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Tue, 02 May 2023 19:01:33 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 2023 at 10:40:06 AM MST, \"Ed P\" wrote
WVb4M.556642$Ldj8.56651@fx47.iad>:
On 5/2/2023 12:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that left
5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95 minutes.
What can we conclude from that?
Choose one:
Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90
minutes for a bus
or
If more people took the bus they would run them more frequently so the
wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost effective.
Right. And to get it going it may need to run at a loss... though that \"loss\"
really is still a gain for society and the environment.
Anything running at a loss is stupid.
It is a loss only from a very myopic view point. The big picture matters.
People won\'t use buses just because there\'s more of them.
If they are clean and convenient, why not? They do in many cities.
They avoid them because they have more convenient cars. Buses are for the
poor. Let them walk.
And this is why Libertarianism cannot work. It actively pushes inefficiencies
which make a society less capable of competing.
But let\'s all scrounge off others shall we?
Let\'s invest in our own society so we are ALL better off.
You invest in a company, because it gives you money back when it does well.
And we can do the same with our society. Invest so ALL are bette off.
You don\'t invest in a society. You just feed the lazy and useless, creating a
population of weak people. Stop using silly libtard buzzwords.
None of what you said makes sense. Why would everyone being better off lead to
anything like that?
Typical Jew.
Not sure what the means, other than antisemitic nonsense.
Aww boo hoo, the religious nutters get upset when we make fun of them. Anyone
believing in god needs removed from the gene pool.
I said nothing of being a religious nutter -- I noted your bigotry.
A calculation was made for trains in the UK, they also use more fuel per
passenger than cars. I think they\'re good for very heavy goods, but not
people.
Trains too, that is interesting. I once took a train from York to
London and recall not many people on it.
On Thu, 04 May 2023 06:11:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 3, 2023 at 6:04:03 PM MST, \"\"Commander Kinsey\"\" wrote
op.14eak1srmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Wed, 03 May 2023 20:59:34 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 3, 2023 at 11:07:38 AM MST, \"\"Commander Kinsey\"\" wrote
op.14dra0rkmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Tue, 02 May 2023 19:01:33 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 2023 at 10:40:06 AM MST, \"Ed P\" wrote
WVb4M.556642$Ldj8.56651@fx47.iad>:
On 5/2/2023 12:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that left
5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95 minutes.
What can we conclude from that?
Choose one:
Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90
minutes for a bus
or
If more people took the bus they would run them more frequently so the
wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost effective.
Right. And to get it going it may need to run at a loss... though that \"loss\"
really is still a gain for society and the environment.
Anything running at a loss is stupid.
It is a loss only from a very myopic view point. The big picture matters.
People won\'t use buses just because there\'s more of them.
If they are clean and convenient, why not? They do in many cities.
Nothing is more convenient than a car. City folk are morons. Why live there?
They avoid them because they have more convenient cars. Buses are for the
poor. Let them walk.
And this is why Libertarianism cannot work. It actively pushes inefficiencies
which make a society less capable of competing.
It does not. If everyone has freedom of choice, they will choose the cheapest
(most efficient).
But let\'s all scrounge off others shall we?
Let\'s invest in our own society so we are ALL better off.
You invest in a company, because it gives you money back when it does well.
And we can do the same with our society. Invest so ALL are bette off.
No, you make others better off, not yourself.
You don\'t invest in a society. You just feed the lazy and useless, creating a
population of weak people. Stop using silly libtard buzzwords.
None of what you said makes sense. Why would everyone being better off lead to
anything like that?
Because you\'re feeding those who aren\'t contributing.
Typical Jew.
Not sure what the means, other than antisemitic nonsense.
Aww boo hoo, the religious nutters get upset when we make fun of them. Anyone
believing in god needs removed from the gene pool.
I said nothing of being a religious nutter -- I noted your bigotry.
You objected to me having a go at Jews.
Jews are the biggest religious nuts out there. They start as much war as
Muslims. They think turning on a lightswitch on the sabbath is \"work\".
You challenge of understanding why others make different choices often amuses
me.
It\'s naive to think that we can apply 1787 solutions to 21st Century
problems. This isn\'t the Age of Sail, and problems that seem far away
can be on our doorstep in a matter of hours.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Thu, 4 May 2023 17:35:42 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Thu, 4 May 2023 06:44:29 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
This would be very possible with self driving cars. When you\'ve done
your commute your car is available in a pool for others to hire
while you\'re at work.
Something like that has been tried with bicycles although the bikes
weren\'t personal property. It didn\'t work very well.
Examples?
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/apr/26/story-cities-amsterdam-
bike-share-scheme
Not sure what you read, but that article says that ultimately bike share
schemes have been a success the world over.
On Fri, 05 May 2023 08:38:27 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
It\'s naive to think that we can apply 1787 solutions to 21st Century
problems. This isn\'t the Age of Sail, and problems that seem far away
can be on our doorstep in a matter of hours.
The problems the US caused in the first place?
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-
democracy-in-four-days
Ultimately after refinements to make people responsible. The original
white bike scheme didn\'t work in Amsterdam and it didn\'t work here.
He tiptoed around the issue but C.S. Lewis\' \'Surprised by Joy\' hinted
public schools are where the British upper classes learn pederasty.
Kipling\'s \'Stalky & Co.\' also makes one wonder what went on at the United
Services College public school where Kipling was educated.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
On Fri, 05 May 2023 08:38:27 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
It\'s naive to think that we can apply 1787 solutions to 21st Century
problems. This isn\'t the Age of Sail, and problems that seem far away
can be on our doorstep in a matter of hours.
The problems the US caused in the first place?
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-
democracy-in-four-days
It goes back far, far further. Think Safavid empire. Think British
Empire (anglo-persian war). Then there was the Balfour declaration
which has lead to suffering and violence in the middle east.
...It\'s unfortunate there are starving
people in Sudan but that\'s a problem they have to fix. And, no, I have no
idea how they will fix it but I\'m betting US troops aren\'t part of the
solution.
\"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this
Constitution for the United States of America.\"
I don\'t see the clause about saving the world.
Agreed. I was looking at the time frame where the US decided it was the
big dog after WWII.
tirsdag den 2. maj 2023 kl. 15.44.49 UTC+2 skrev T i m:
On 02/05/2023 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:
snip
A taxi is also Public Transport.
What about rental cycles and eScooters?
A mate and some friends spent a long weekend at a beer festival in
Munich and said they were fantastic. Pick some up from where you are,
activate them via the app, go where you want and log out and leave them..
If you come out of a place (typically a tourist attraction) and the
scooters you had were gone, there would generally be some a short
distance away.
He said the difference between there and say where they have trialled
here in the UK is respect and social responsibility.
They weren\'t left all over the footpath but out of the way, up against a
wall or fence.
have escooters here too very convenient, they use GPS to make sure you can\'t park or drive them where it isn\'t legal
and to end your ride you have to take a picture of how you parked it, I think there\'s also a bonus
for parking at the designated parking areas where the recharged ones are dropped off
but the idea is basically ruined, because helmets were made mandatory so unless you walk around with a helmet
or want to risk a 200⬠fine they are not an option
On May 2, 2023 at 9:49:52 AM MST, \"John Larkin\" wrote
4nf25id1hv2kcvuie...@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 2 May 2023 14:44:41 +0100, T i m <indiv...@spaced.me.uk
wrote:
On 02/05/2023 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:
snip
A taxi is also Public Transport.
What about rental cycles and eScooters?
A mate and some friends spent a long weekend at a beer festival in
Munich and said they were fantastic. Pick some up from where you are,
activate them via the app, go where you want and log out and leave them.
If you come out of a place (typically a tourist attraction) and the
scooters you had were gone, there would generally be some a short
distance away.
He said the difference between there and say where they have trialled
here in the UK is respect and social responsibility.
They weren\'t left all over the footpath but out of the way, up against a
wall or fence.
They were never found damaged, especially vandalised and any that were
left a bit out of the way or too flat to use were collected up and / or
the battery replaced for a fully charged one.
I have reported many of the \'Boris / Santander\' hire bikes abandoned
here (well outside of their typical patch) and they are always recovered
pretty promptly (before the local scum destroy them).
When did parents stop teaching the respect for other peoples property to
their children, as can generally seen by all the damage and graffiti on
all sorts of public transport and property?
Cheers, T i m
The War On Poverty deliberately created an underclass of fatherless
kids.
Huh? Cite?
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
On 5/2/2023 12:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that left
5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95 minutes..
What can we conclude from that?
Choose one:
Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90
minutes for a bus
or
If more people took the bus they would run them more frequently so the
wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost effective.