OT: plug and pray webcam on windows xp...

[Dimiter_Popoff]

A somewhat moronic question but well, perhaps someone has been there
and done it.
My old (also external) webcam which I use in order to look at my lab
when I am not there (USB connected to an old xp laptop) began to lose
its presence at times (gets back on app restart but well, I need it to
work when I am not there).
So I got a new one,
https://natec-zone.com/product/lori .

Wasted me a whole day today and no chance for xp to recognize it.
On the windows 10 laptop it just works; on the xp it stays unrecognized.
I tried all the obvious, installed various drivers etc., nothing.
Found a much longer version of upnphosts.dll (something like 300k,
mine was 182 or so), nothing.
I guess I\'ll give up on it and get another but... it does claim to work
with XP. Haven\'t tried to talk to the makers, I already wasted enough
time on that as it is.
So if by some chance someone knows something I can try - some particular
driver etc. - please help. I am far from a windows freak, I can manage
little more than what is obvious to me.
The windows xp is 32 bit as far as I can tell, the laptop is acer
extensa 5630Z (has no inbuilt camera, it is > 10 years old and its
main - if not sole - function is to operate the camera.....).
I know there are many alternative ways to do it, but it would be
nice if this thing would eventually work.

 

[a a]

On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 01:33:51 UTC+2, Dimiter Popoff wrote:

A somewhat moronic question but well, perhaps someone has been there
and done it.
My old (also external) webcam which I use in order to look at my lab
when I am not there (USB connected to an old xp laptop) began to lose
its presence at times (gets back on app restart but well, I need it to
work when I am not there).
So I got a new one,
https://natec-zone.com/product/lori .

Wasted me a whole day today and no chance for xp to recognize it.
On the windows 10 laptop it just works; on the xp it stays unrecognized.
I tried all the obvious, installed various drivers etc., nothing.
Found a much longer version of upnphosts.dll (something like 300k,
mine was 182 or so), nothing.
I guess I\'ll give up on it and get another but... it does claim to work
with XP. Haven\'t tried to talk to the makers, I already wasted enough
time on that as it is.
So if by some chance someone knows something I can try - some particular
driver etc. - please help. I am far from a windows freak, I can manage
little more than what is obvious to me.
The windows xp is 32 bit as far as I can tell, the laptop is acer
extensa 5630Z (has no inbuilt camera, it is > 10 years old and its
main - if not sole - function is to operate the camera.....).
I know there are many alternative ways to do it, but it would be
nice if this thing would eventually work.

your web browser can directly support your usb webcam,
mine supported 4 usb webcams in Windows XP
I switched to Win10 to get support for 8 webcams

 

[a a]

On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 01:33:51 UTC+2, Dimiter Popoff wrote:

A somewhat moronic question but well, perhaps someone has been there
and done it.
My old (also external) webcam which I use in order to look at my lab
when I am not there (USB connected to an old xp laptop) began to lose
its presence at times (gets back on app restart but well, I need it to
work when I am not there).
So I got a new one,
https://natec-zone.com/product/lori .

Wasted me a whole day today and no chance for xp to recognize it.
On the windows 10 laptop it just works; on the xp it stays unrecognized.
I tried all the obvious, installed various drivers etc., nothing.
Found a much longer version of upnphosts.dll (something like 300k,
mine was 182 or so), nothing.
I guess I\'ll give up on it and get another but... it does claim to work
with XP. Haven\'t tried to talk to the makers, I already wasted enough
time on that as it is.
So if by some chance someone knows something I can try - some particular
driver etc. - please help. I am far from a windows freak, I can manage
little more than what is obvious to me.
The windows xp is 32 bit as far as I can tell, the laptop is acer
extensa 5630Z (has no inbuilt camera, it is > 10 years old and its
main - if not sole - function is to operate the camera.....).
I know there are many alternative ways to do it, but it would be
nice if this thing would eventually work.

since your new webcam is full HD
it may be the case since your usb 2.0 PCI controller can support 2 VGA cameras in parallel

VGA 640 x 480
Full HD 1920 x 1080

1920 x 1080 / 640 x 480 = 6.75

so if your camera is not coming with built-in video compression, there is a little chance to have usb 2.0 controller to support it

Try to get usb 3.0 PCI controller

 

[John Doe]

Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote:

A somewhat moronic question but well, perhaps someone has been there
and done it.
My old (also external) webcam which I use in order to look at my lab
when I am not there (USB connected to an old xp laptop) began to lose
its presence at times (gets back on app restart but well, I need it to
work when I am not there).
So I got a new one,
https://natec-zone.com/product/lori .

Wasted me a whole day today and no chance for xp to recognize it.
On the windows 10 laptop it just works; on the xp it stays unrecognized.
I tried all the obvious, installed various drivers etc., nothing.
Found a much longer version of upnphosts.dll (something like 300k,
mine was 182 or so), nothing.
I guess I\'ll give up on it and get another but... it does claim to work
with XP. Haven\'t tried to talk to the makers, I already wasted enough
time on that as it is.
So if by some chance someone knows something I can try - some particular
driver etc. - please help. I am far from a windows freak, I can manage
little more than what is obvious to me.
The windows xp is 32 bit as far as I can tell, the laptop is acer
extensa 5630Z (has no inbuilt camera, it is > 10 years old and its
main - if not sole - function is to operate the camera.....).
I know there are many alternative ways to do it, but it would be
nice if this thing would eventually work.

Don\'t see that WebCam on Amazon...

Changing Windows\' system files is a bad idea. Hopefully you restored the
prior DLL after the \"much longer version\" failed. Otherwise, that sort of
manipulation could be the problem.

Just getting Windows XP to recognize it should be easy, assuming it is
compatible. Of course you have tried restarting Windows.

Since the WebCam as a laboratory monitor is the sole use for your laptop, TRY
REINSTALLING WINDOWS.

The first thing I would do is make a copy of Windows, using Macrium Reflect,
for troubleshooting.

 

[John Doe]

Make sure you have installed all of Windows XP\'s updates, Service Pack 3
or whatever.

You can try that before reinstalling Windows, but be sure to apply the
most recent service pack after reinstalling Windows (and the prior service
packs if required, unlikely (but it\'s been a long time)).





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John Doe wrote:

Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

A somewhat moronic question but well, perhaps someone has been there
and done it. My old (also external) webcam which I use in order to look
at my lab when I am not there (USB connected to an old xp laptop) began
to lose its presence at times (gets back on app restart but well, I
need it to work when I am not there). So I got a new one,
https://natec-zone.com/product/lori .

Wasted me a whole day today and no chance for xp to recognize it. On
the windows 10 laptop it just works; on the xp it stays unrecognized.
I tried all the obvious, installed various drivers etc., nothing. Found
a much longer version of upnphosts.dll (something like 300k, mine was
182 or so), nothing. I guess I\'ll give up on it and get another but...
it does claim to work with XP. Haven\'t tried to talk to the makers, I
already wasted enough time on that as it is. So if by some chance
someone knows something I can try - some particular driver etc. -
please help. I am far from a windows freak, I can manage little more
than what is obvious to me. The windows xp is 32 bit as far as I can
tell, the laptop is acer extensa 5630Z (has no inbuilt camera, it is
10 years old and its main - if not sole - function is to operate the
camera.....). I know there are many alternative ways to do it, but it
would be nice if this thing would eventually work.

Don\'t see that WebCam on Amazon...

Changing Windows\' system files is a bad idea. Hopefully you restored the
prior DLL after the \"much longer version\" failed. Otherwise, that sort
of manipulation could be the problem.

Just getting Windows XP to recognize it should be easy, assuming it is
compatible. Of course you have tried restarting Windows.

Since the WebCam as a laboratory monitor is the sole use for your
laptop, TRY REINSTALLING WINDOWS.

The first thing I would do is make a copy of Windows, using Macrium
Reflect, for troubleshooting.

 

[John Doe]

If the old camera not working is a hardware problem, it could as easily be
the laptop. Maybe to do with the USB.

Has the old camera been tried on a different computer? That test might take a
while.

Since the new camera works on a Windows 10 PC, then it\'s probably not the
camera.

I found nothing when searching for that camera plus \"Windows XP\".

Reinstall Windows XP.

 

[server]

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t7u2g7$3pj$1@dont-email.me:

Changing Windows\' system files is a bad idea. Hopefully you
restored the prior DLL after the \"much longer version\" failed.
Otherwise, that sort of manipulation could be the problem.

Wow... you are such an expert. NOT!

Taking advice from an idiot like you \"could be\" the problem. Nope,
it most certainly WOULD BE the problem.

 

[server]

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t7u2pb$3pj$2@dont-email.me:

Make sure you have installed all of Windows XP\'s updates, Service
Pack 3 or whatever.

\"Or whatever\"?

John Dope is an idiot, no or whatevers about it.

You can try that before reinstalling Windows, but be sure to apply
the most recent service pack after reinstalling Windows (and the
prior service packs if required, unlikely (but it\'s been a long
time)).

XP is no longer supported by MicroSoft. Virus updates are still
happening, but you don\'t have the big download zone like when it was
still supported.

It is no wonder you are unaware of that. You do not make a good XP
consultant at all.

 

[server]

First and foremost do not take any advice from John Dope.

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t7uc3m$mjh$1@dont-email.me:

If the old camera not working is a hardware problem, it could as
easily be the laptop. Maybe to do with the USB.

Has the old camera been tried on a different computer? That test
might take a while.

Since the new camera works on a Windows 10 PC, then it\'s probably
not the camera.

I found nothing when searching for that camera plus \"Windows XP\".

Reinstall Windows XP.

 

[John Doe]

Is/would Always Wrong\'s mother be proud of it being a reactionary
foulmouthed spewer of nonsense on the Internet? Hope not...

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t7u2pb$3pj$2@dont-email.me:

Make sure you have installed all of Windows XP\'s updates, Service
Pack 3 or whatever.


\"Or whatever\"?

John Dope is an idiot, no or whatevers about it.

You can try that before reinstalling Windows, but be sure to apply
the most recent service pack after reinstalling Windows (and the
prior service packs if required, unlikely (but it\'s been a long
time)).

XP is no longer supported by MicroSoft. Virus updates are still
happening, but you don\'t have the big download zone like when it was
still supported.

It is no wonder you are unaware of that. You do not make a good XP
consultant at all.

 

[John Doe]

I wonder if Always Wrong\'s mother is/would be proud
of it constantly acting like an idiot on the Internet...

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t7u2g7$3pj$1@dont-email.me:


Changing Windows\' system files is a bad idea. Hopefully you
restored the prior DLL after the \"much longer version\" failed.
Otherwise, that sort of manipulation could be the problem.


Wow... you are such an expert. NOT!

Taking advice from an idiot like you \"could be\" the problem. Nope,
it most certainly WOULD BE the problem.

 

[Edward Hernandez]

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 57.7% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1592 articles to USENET. Of which 171 have been pure insults and
748 have been Troll Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 10 Jun 2022 04:28:03 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t7uh8j$10c$5@dont-email.me>.

JCyNZ8Tc5/mh

 

[Edward Hernandez]

In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Doe stated:

Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe\'s post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.7% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1592 articles to USENET. Of which 171 have been pure insults and
748 have been John Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Fri, 10 Jun 2022 04:29:17 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t7uhat$10c$6@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that Troll Doe does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

OHIUOcekgtvw

 

[corvid]

John DoPe:

Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote:

Wasted me a whole day today and no chance for xp to recognize it.
On the windows 10 laptop it just works; on the xp it stays
unrecognized. I tried all the obvious, installed various drivers
etc., nothing. Found a much longer version of upnphosts.dll
(something like 300k, mine was 182 or so), nothing.

Changing Windows\' system files is a bad idea. Hopefully you restored
the prior DLL after the \"much longer version\" failed. Otherwise, that
sort of manipulation could be the problem.

No, it\'s a good idea. Software makers often enough include their own
versions of dlls, using the same name as everyone else\'s version, with
no concern about breaking another program that was already there before
its dll got overwritten.

 

[Charlie+]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 02:33:43 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote as underneath :

>snip
Why not ask in an appropriate ng?
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Still active - you might get some sensible answers there! C+

 

[John Doe]

Eddie, the porn-sucking retarded forger is flagging every off-topic post
with its flawed copy of my ID.

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <always.look_message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99_gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99_gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99_gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don\'t get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 57.7% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1592 articles to USENET. Of which 171 have been pure insults and
748 have been Troll Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 10 Jun 2022 04:28:03 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t7uh8j$10c$5@dont-email.me>.

JCyNZ8Tc5/mh

 

[John Doe]

Eddie, the porn-sucking retarded forger is flagging every off-topic post
with its flawed copy of my ID.

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <always.look_message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99_gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99_gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99_gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don\'t get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Doe stated:

Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe\'s post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.7% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1592 articles to USENET. Of which 171 have been pure insults and
748 have been John Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Fri, 10 Jun 2022 04:29:17 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
t7uhat$10c$6@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that Troll Doe does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

OHIUOcekgtvw

 

[Edward Hernandez]

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe\'s post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.8% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1596 articles to USENET. Of which 171 have been pure insults and
752 have been John Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 10 Jun 2022 06:47:32 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t7upe4$1t0$2@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Dope does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

wXigZ5RtP1Oq

 

[Edward Hernandez]

Further, John Dope stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 57.8% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
least 1596 articles to USENET. Of which 171 have been pure insults and
752 have been John Dope \"troll format\" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 10 Jun 2022 06:47:44 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t7upef$1t0$3@dont-email.me>.

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[Edward Hernandez]

Further, John Dope stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 57.9% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
least 1597 articles to USENET. Of which 171 have been pure insults and
753 have been John Dope \"troll format\" postings.

The John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Dope troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 10 Jun 2022 06:59:51 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t7uq57$1t0$4@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Dope does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

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