OT: Money from Trump..

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 7:19:16 PM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:

The actual staute seems to be quoted here:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

In the wording is

"willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. "

That is a separate issue, it is written into the statute itself as part of the penalty. That is perfectly legal I think. But an actual statute specifically prohibiting a felon from holding office was not forthcoming in my search.

There are other laws that if broken they will bar someone from public office. But it is not a universal thing. It does apply to THIS statute though....

Cool, so Clinton pal, pants stuffing, Sandy Berger apparently can't hold
office. No, wait a minute, he was just illegally removing things from
the national archives, so he can still run for office. So far,
DL can't come up with what he claims, which is that
a felon can't run for president period. i agree with what you say above,
it looks like that one screwy law says if you lift documents from a court,
that crime bars you from running. So that's what? .00000001% of felons?
Has anyone even been convicted of that law in the last 50 years?

 

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 7:30:44 PM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:

Many states have a process for felons to get their right to own a >gun back and it doesn't involve expunging your record.

I just looked and I stand corrected. And in fact it appears that some felonies do not automatically take your gun rights. Or course probation or parole will.

In Ohio, we got;

https://www.rittgers.com/blog/2016/06/how-do-i-restore-my-gun-rights-after-a-felony-conviction.shtml

In there is;

"has led a law abiding life since discharge;"

How long ? Five minutes ? Five years ? It also says something about "if granted" so that indicates there is probably a hearing. that probably means a judge and let's hope he doesn't have that soyliberal bent on him.

Same with voting rights, in many states it is up to a judge. Now if you are/were a registered republican and the judge is a democrat...

???

That's kind of how it is in most states. There is a process, some
period you have to be crime free, and then it's at the discretion of
some person or committee.

 

trader4@optonline.net wrote in
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On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 6:46:45 PM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com
wrote:
The "one right you don't get back" I speak of is the gun rights,
idiot.

You definitely got him there. Even a pardon won't do it. Even
winning an appeal won't do it.

That's not true. Many states have a process for felons to get
their right to own a gun back and it doesn't involve expunging
your record.

As I previous;y stated, a felon get a disability in BOTH the state
they are convicted in AND the federal level, and regardless of
whether a state allows you to expunge your record, your disability
stays until rescinded at the federal level and the state level and
the requires the felon to petition for the removal of the
disability. The federal removal is REQUIRED, and a felon can have a
gun if that disability is removed in another state than that he was
convicted in if that state does not remove his state level
disability.

When you try to get a gun via normal legal means, the FBI does the
investigation and if you have a felony, you will automatically
appear in the federal firearms disability database, and your
purchase will be denied.

In some states it is illegal to even attempt the purchase as a
felon.

Any cop can tell as well, because if your rap sheet (any cop
computer screen) shows the felony conviction, they automatically
assume that means that you have no right to own or otherwise possess
a firearm. And they would be correct in all but about 0.01% of the
group.