OT: Credit card scam...

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 10:25:50 +1100, "Chad Sexington" <mad@theworld.com>
wrote:


Wow, love the semi-retarded rant that just ejaculated from your mouth.

Go back to the dole queue, they need to verify that you really were
knocked back for envelope stuffing duties at the local spastic
foundation.


And for the record, you cant " scam " a passport.


So true !!

And look out Rod "Bi-polar Disorder" Speed and Matthew "Credit Card /
Passport scammer " discussing the same subject. There goes the IQ average
for this news-group.

Here's a precursor to their forthcoming discussion

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "


Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "


Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "



"Mug Punter" <mug@tab.com.au> wrote in message
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"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:14 +1100, "eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote:



Also, they can get your number a lot easier than most people realise.

*If you dont get a statement in the mail that month, call the bank and
cancel your card- Someone has nicked your mail and it quite clearly
has your credit card number printed on it..sure it doesnt have the
expiry, but if they use any date within the next 5 years it will be
succesful most times.

*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put your card on
the counter for the girlie to take swipe...anyone standing next to you
can see the number and memorise it. You think 16 digits is hard to
memorise? First you just need to see what bank it is from. If you know
that you will know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular
type card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..

*If you are in a bank NEVER write your account number down on a slip
that is sitting on another piece of paper and then put the other bit
of paper back. People can take impressions



Tips from the master himself!.
 
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:11:33 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
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Emailed from friend...

Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I have a facility whereby any withdrawal from my account generates an
SMS on my mobile phone. Even though the transaction is electronic, the
SMS sometimes doesn't arrive until 8AM the following day. Do machines
sleep, too?


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
 
"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
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Emailed from friend...
One problem here. Whenever you hand your card over in a shop, they check the
same bit of tape on the back of the card that you sign when you get the
card. Why do they need to ring you if they can get a store clerk or 3 in on
it?
 
So what illegal Passport activity did you partake in to end up in court,
internet loverboy ?

"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 10:25:50 +1100, "Chad Sexington" <mad@theworld.com
wrote:


Wow, love the semi-retarded rant that just ejaculated from your mouth.

Go back to the dole queue, they need to verify that you really were
knocked back for envelope stuffing duties at the local spastic
foundation.


And for the record, you cant " scam " a passport.


So true !!

And look out Rod "Bi-polar Disorder" Speed and Matthew "Credit Card /
Passport scammer " discussing the same subject. There goes the IQ average
for this news-group.

Here's a precursor to their forthcoming discussion

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "


Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "


Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "



"Mug Punter" <mug@tab.com.au> wrote in message
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"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:14 +1100, "eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote:



Also, they can get your number a lot easier than most people realise.

*If you dont get a statement in the mail that month, call the bank and
cancel your card- Someone has nicked your mail and it quite clearly
has your credit card number printed on it..sure it doesnt have the
expiry, but if they use any date within the next 5 years it will be
succesful most times.

*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put your card on
the counter for the girlie to take swipe...anyone standing next to you
can see the number and memorise it. You think 16 digits is hard to
memorise? First you just need to see what bank it is from. If you know
that you will know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular
type card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..

*If you are in a bank NEVER write your account number down on a slip
that is sitting on another piece of paper and then put the other bit
of paper back. People can take impressions



Tips from the master himself!.
 
I'm amazed that any bank would give a theif like you a credit-card with your
history of fraud


"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:11:33 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> wrote:


"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
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Emailed from friend...

Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I will give you points for the warning to other stupid people, though.
Grow up peoples. Keep tabs on your details!! It's not rocket science!!
C


Are you a nerd?
Do you think everyone uses the net?
Fark, i've been using the net longer than you've been alive and i
still dont check the balances of my credit cards every day.
 
The Advertiser September 12, 1998, Saturday
Copyright 1998 Nationwide News Pty Limited

The Advertiser
September 12, 1998, Saturday
LENGTH: 382 words

HEADLINE: FRAUD MAN SIGNS HIS OWN PASSPORT TO PRISON; Trapped in a;
net of global deceit

BYLINE: By Court Reporter FIONA CLARK

BODY:
IT IS a story of a false passport, credit cards, the Internet and true love.

It is also the story of Matthew Goodyear otherwise known as Matthew
Christie, Matthew Colley, Andrea Colley, Matthew Patterson, Jacqueline
Hogan, Shane Stewart, G. Christie and Henry J. Francis.

All of these names were used by 23-year-old Goodyear in a credit card
scam which took him halfway across the world and yesterday landed him
in jail. It began when Goodyear, of Glenelg North, went back to school
to do Year 12.

A friend initiated him into a ring where false names and credit card
details were being swapped and used.

Between January, 1996, and last October, Goodyear used the false cards
to purchase goods over the phone, racking up thousands of dollars in
bills.

At the same time, Goodyear had started using the Internet and through
that met a woman in the United States.

The relationship progressed to the telephone, where he accumulated an
unpaid Telstra bill of more than $3000.

Eventually, he decided he would follow his heart and in September,
1996, bought a $1300 airline ticket using fake credit card numbers.

Then he applied for a passport in the name of Matthew Christie
fearing he would not get a legitimate passport because he was on bail.

Using the false passport, he joined his love in Philadelphia and
stayed for several months.

He decided to return only when he discovered his mother had cancer
but was robbed while in New York on the way home.

Without his passport, he successfully applied to the Australian
Embassy for an emergency travel document, again under a false name and
this time with a fake birth certificate faxed from Australia.

Yesterday, in the Port Adelaide Magistrates Court, Commonwealth
prosecutor Mr Ross Christoforou said Goodyear had woven a "web of
deceit" which jeopardised the integrity of the passport system.

Mr Simon Slade, for Goodyear, said he had been caught up in a ring run
by others and had made full admissions once he was detected, pleading
guilty to 12 fraud charges and two passport charges.

He said Goodyear was unemployed and could not pay the $9000
compensation.

Magistrate Mr Charles Eardley sentenced Goodyear to cumulative terms
of 18 and five months, with a minimum term of 14 months.

"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 10:25:50 +1100, "Chad Sexington" <mad@theworld.com
wrote:


Wow, love the semi-retarded rant that just ejaculated from your mouth.

Go back to the dole queue, they need to verify that you really were
knocked back for envelope stuffing duties at the local spastic
foundation.


And for the record, you cant " scam " a passport.


So true !!

And look out Rod "Bi-polar Disorder" Speed and Matthew "Credit Card /
Passport scammer " discussing the same subject. There goes the IQ average
for this news-group.

Here's a precursor to their forthcoming discussion

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "


Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "


Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "



"Mug Punter" <mug@tab.com.au> wrote in message
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"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:14 +1100, "eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote:



Also, they can get your number a lot easier than most people realise.

*If you dont get a statement in the mail that month, call the bank and
cancel your card- Someone has nicked your mail and it quite clearly
has your credit card number printed on it..sure it doesnt have the
expiry, but if they use any date within the next 5 years it will be
succesful most times.

*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put your card on
the counter for the girlie to take swipe...anyone standing next to you
can see the number and memorise it. You think 16 digits is hard to
memorise? First you just need to see what bank it is from. If you know
that you will know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular
type card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..

*If you are in a bank NEVER write your account number down on a slip
that is sitting on another piece of paper and then put the other bit
of paper back. People can take impressions



Tips from the master himself!.
 
"Chad Sexington" <mad@theworld.com> wrote in message
news:418ca3df$0$19243$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
The Advertiser September 12, 1998, Saturday
Copyright 1998 Nationwide News Pty Limited

The Advertiser
September 12, 1998, Saturday
LENGTH: 382 words

HEADLINE: FRAUD MAN SIGNS HIS OWN PASSPORT TO PRISON; Trapped in a;
net of global deceit

BYLINE: By Court Reporter FIONA CLARK

BODY:
IT IS a story of a false passport, credit cards, the Internet and true
love.

It is also the story of Matthew Goodyear otherwise known as Matthew
Christie, Matthew Colley, Andrea Colley, Matthew Patterson, Jacqueline
Hogan, Shane Stewart, G. Christie and Henry J. Francis.

All of these names were used by 23-year-old Goodyear in a credit card
scam which took him halfway across the world and yesterday landed him
in jail. It began when Goodyear, of Glenelg North, went back to school
to do Year 12.

A friend initiated him into a ring where false names and credit card
details were being swapped and used.

Between January, 1996, and last October, Goodyear used the false cards
to purchase goods over the phone, racking up thousands of dollars in
bills.

At the same time, Goodyear had started using the Internet and through
that met a woman in the United States.

The relationship progressed to the telephone, where he accumulated an
unpaid Telstra bill of more than $3000.

Eventually, he decided he would follow his heart and in September,
1996, bought a $1300 airline ticket using fake credit card numbers.

Then he applied for a passport in the name of Matthew Christie
fearing he would not get a legitimate passport because he was on bail.

Using the false passport, he joined his love in Philadelphia and
stayed for several months.

He decided to return only when he discovered his mother had cancer
but was robbed while in New York on the way home.

Without his passport, he successfully applied to the Australian
Embassy for an emergency travel document, again under a false name and
this time with a fake birth certificate faxed from Australia.

Yesterday, in the Port Adelaide Magistrates Court, Commonwealth
prosecutor Mr Ross Christoforou said Goodyear had woven a "web of
deceit" which jeopardised the integrity of the passport system.

Mr Simon Slade, for Goodyear, said he had been caught up in a ring run
by others and had made full admissions once he was detected, pleading
guilty to 12 fraud charges and two passport charges.

He said Goodyear was unemployed and could not pay the $9000
compensation.

Magistrate Mr Charles Eardley sentenced Goodyear to cumulative terms
of 18 and five months, with a minimum term of 14 months.
Awww, but what ever became of his true love? *sniff sniff*

MP
 
"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:14 +1100, "eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote:


Someone has nicked your mail and it quite clearly
has your credit card number printed on it..sure it doesnt have the
expiry, but if they use any date within the next 5 years it will be
succesful most times.
NO - NONSENSE, the expiry date entered must be correct.
 
*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put your card on
the counter for the girlie to take swipe...anyone standing next to you
can see the number and memorise it. You think 16 digits is hard to
memorise? First you just need to see what bank it is from. If you know
that you will know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular
type card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..
hehe, yeah, but the girl you give the card to can steal credit card numbers
too.

its a risk you take.

I wish they would use PIN NUMBER only cards.



*If you are in a bank NEVER write your account number down on a slip
that is sitting on another piece of paper and then put the other bit
of paper back. People can take impressions
so what ???? bank account numbers are pretty useless.



Of course, its funny when you take ID to the bank to get a card replaced,
and the girl is inexperienced and phones up for help and authorisation, and
she gives you card, then you realise she saw the ID but she didnt look at it
closely, it could have been Yassa Arafat's Al-Aksa membership card.
 
Top posting ,so the email hoax story can be read without forcing readers to
read it.

The hoax almost passes as legit.

The reason a scammer might ask for the 3 digit number is so they can use
internet shops which may have paid for the extra precaution of requiring
the 3 digit number.

However this scam doesnt work very well because the scammer doesnt want to
give away his phone number ! That will get him caught real quick.


Not many pieces of paper have both your name and address ,or phone number,
and credit card number and expiry date on it. credit card recipts only have
credit card details and amount. tax invoices have name and address not
credit card details.

And so, the question is then who gets your credit card details but not the
three digit security number ? No one, so this email is a hoax.


So there's two reasons its sure to be a hoax.

The credit thief uses magnetic strip readers to get all required
information to fake a credit card, then goes to department stores to buy
high end equipment..








"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
news:cmf3nm$2dks$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Emailed from friend...

When I received this email, I phoned Natalie Kent at the Local Government
Association of Queensland (phone 07 3000 2239), and verified the accuracy
of
the content. Natalie confirmed this scam is real, and not a hoax email.
This
information is worth reading.

By understanding how the VISA & MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam
works,
you'll be better prepared to protect yourself. Con artists get more
creative
every day.... My spouse was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was
called on Thursday from "MasterCard".

The scam works like this: Person calling says, "this is <name>, and I'm
calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is
12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm
calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by
name
bank. Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a
marketing company based in Arizona?" When you say "No", the caller
continues
with, "Then we will be issuing credit to your account. This is a company
we
have been watching and the charges range from$297 to $497, just under the
$500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement,
the
credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?" You say
"yes". The caller continues. "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If
you have any questions, you should call the 1-800 number listed on the
back
of your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control
#"
The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it
again?" Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then
says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you
to "turn your card over and look for some numbers. There are 7 numbers;
the
first 4 are your card number, the next 3 are the 'Security Numbers' that
verify you are in possession of the card. These are the numbers you use to
make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. Read me the 3
numbers".
After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say ,"That is correct. I
just
needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you
still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say No,
the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you
do", and hangs up.

You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the card
number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20
minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did!

The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15
minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charge on our card. Long story made
short, we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA card, and they are
reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN
number
on the back of the card.

Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card
direct. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the
card as they already know the information since they issued the card!

If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're
receiving
a credit. However, by the time you get your statement, you'll see charges
for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late and/or
harder
to actually file a fraud report.

What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a
"Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA
scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police
report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of
these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that
this
scam is happening. Please pass this on to all your friends. By informing
each other, we protect each other.

Natalie Kent Manager, Finance, Governance and Community Local Government
Association of Queensland 25 Evelyn Street, Newstead PO Box 2230,
Fortitude
Valley BC Brisbane QLD 4000
 
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:04:45 +1100, "Chad Sexington" <mad@theworld.com>
wrote:

Well, i have a history of murder and the knife shop sold me a knife.

I'm amazed that any bank would give a theif like you a credit-card with your
history of fraud


"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:11:33 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> wrote:


"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
news:cmf3nm$2dks$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Emailed from friend...

Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I will give you points for the warning to other stupid people, though.
Grow up peoples. Keep tabs on your details!! It's not rocket science!!
C


Are you a nerd?
Do you think everyone uses the net?
Fark, i've been using the net longer than you've been alive and i
still dont check the balances of my credit cards every day.
 
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:24:59 GMT, "Wearsya Bean Hiding"
<whearsya@beanhiding.com> wrote:


You are very naive.
Top posting ,so the email hoax story can be read without forcing readers to
read it.

The hoax almost passes as legit.

The reason a scammer might ask for the 3 digit number is so they can use
internet shops which may have paid for the extra precaution of requiring
the 3 digit number.

However this scam doesnt work very well because the scammer doesnt want to
give away his phone number ! That will get him caught real quick.


Not many pieces of paper have both your name and address ,or phone number,
and credit card number and expiry date on it. credit card recipts only have
credit card details and amount. tax invoices have name and address not
credit card details.

And so, the question is then who gets your credit card details but not the
three digit security number ? No one, so this email is a hoax.


So there's two reasons its sure to be a hoax.

The credit thief uses magnetic strip readers to get all required
information to fake a credit card, then goes to department stores to buy
high end equipment..








"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
news:cmf3nm$2dks$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Emailed from friend...

When I received this email, I phoned Natalie Kent at the Local Government
Association of Queensland (phone 07 3000 2239), and verified the accuracy
of
the content. Natalie confirmed this scam is real, and not a hoax email.
This
information is worth reading.

By understanding how the VISA & MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam
works,
you'll be better prepared to protect yourself. Con artists get more
creative
every day.... My spouse was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was
called on Thursday from "MasterCard".

The scam works like this: Person calling says, "this is <name>, and I'm
calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is
12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm
calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by
name
bank. Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a
marketing company based in Arizona?" When you say "No", the caller
continues
with, "Then we will be issuing credit to your account. This is a company
we
have been watching and the charges range from$297 to $497, just under the
$500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement,
the
credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?" You say
"yes". The caller continues. "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If
you have any questions, you should call the 1-800 number listed on the
back
of your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control
#"
The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it
again?" Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then
says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you
to "turn your card over and look for some numbers. There are 7 numbers;
the
first 4 are your card number, the next 3 are the 'Security Numbers' that
verify you are in possession of the card. These are the numbers you use to
make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. Read me the 3
numbers".
After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say ,"That is correct. I
just
needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you
still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say No,
the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you
do", and hangs up.

You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the card
number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20
minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did!

The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15
minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charge on our card. Long story made
short, we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA card, and they are
reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN
number
on the back of the card.

Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card
direct. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the
card as they already know the information since they issued the card!

If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're
receiving
a credit. However, by the time you get your statement, you'll see charges
for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late and/or
harder
to actually file a fraud report.

What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a
"Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA
scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police
report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of
these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that
this
scam is happening. Please pass this on to all your friends. By informing
each other, we protect each other.

Natalie Kent Manager, Finance, Governance and Community Local Government
Association of Queensland 25 Evelyn Street, Newstead PO Box 2230,
Fortitude
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"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:04:45 +1100, "Chad Sexington" <mad@theworld.com
wrote:

Well, i have a history of murder and the knife shop sold me a knife.

Over the internet?
 
"Wearsya Bean Hiding" <whearsya@beanhiding.com> wrote in message
news:418cbfa0@grungy...
*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put your card on
the counter for the girlie to take swipe...anyone standing next to you
can see the number and memorise it. You think 16 digits is hard to
memorise? First you just need to see what bank it is from. If you know
that you will know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular
type card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..

hehe, yeah, but the girl you give the card to can steal credit card
numbers
too.

its a risk you take.

I wish they would use PIN NUMBER only cards.


Actually, over here in NZ virtually everywhere uses EFTPOS with PIN
numbers - it's unusual to sign for a transaction. You can even buy a carton
of milk by EFTPOS - the system is so entrenched that you almost don't need
cash. I get caught out every time I return to Oz for a hol.

Ken
 
"Wearsya Bean Hiding" <whearsya@beanhiding.com> wrote in message
news:418cc240@grungy...
Top posting ,so the email hoax story can be read without forcing readers
to read it.
What the FUCK has posting at the top to do with ANYTHING? Fucking NET COPS!
 
"Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote in message
news:UAbjd.4457$op3.170439@news.xtra.co.nz...
Actually, over here in NZ virtually everywhere uses EFTPOS with PIN
numbers - it's unusual to sign for a transaction. You can even buy a
carton
of milk by EFTPOS - the system is so entrenched that you almost don't need
cash. I get caught out every time I return to Oz for a hol.
Son just back from 2 years in Texas can't get used to signing. Over there
you just hand over your card and driving licence or SS card. It's
normal/common to buy the morning paper that way, along with booze, food etc
in a servo. - fark !!
 
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 10:41:45 +1300, "Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote:

"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
news:htbqo05eo043uopltp72vqj9s4ujvga88e@4ax.com...
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:04:45 +1100, "Chad Sexington" <mad@theworld.com
wrote:

Well, i have a history of murder and the knife shop sold me a knife.

Over the internet?
Yeah, from the guy i stole a car from after i aparently robbed his
granny after doing a bodgy job with her roof whilst i was selling fake
diet pills on the side.
 
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 23:10:58 +1100, "Mug Punter" <mug@tab.com.au>
wrote:

"Chad Sexington" <mad@theworld.com> wrote in message
news:418ca3df$0$19243$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
The Advertiser September 12, 1998, Saturday
Copyright 1998 Nationwide News Pty Limited

The Advertiser
September 12, 1998, Saturday
LENGTH: 382 words

HEADLINE: FRAUD MAN SIGNS HIS OWN PASSPORT TO PRISON; Trapped in a;
net of global deceit

BYLINE: By Court Reporter FIONA CLARK

BODY:
IT IS a story of a false passport, credit cards, the Internet and true
love.

It is also the story of Matthew Goodyear otherwise known as Matthew
Christie, Matthew Colley, Andrea Colley, Matthew Patterson, Jacqueline
Hogan, Shane Stewart, G. Christie and Henry J. Francis.

All of these names were used by 23-year-old Goodyear in a credit card
scam which took him halfway across the world and yesterday landed him
in jail. It began when Goodyear, of Glenelg North, went back to school
to do Year 12.

A friend initiated him into a ring where false names and credit card
details were being swapped and used.

Between January, 1996, and last October, Goodyear used the false cards
to purchase goods over the phone, racking up thousands of dollars in
bills.

At the same time, Goodyear had started using the Internet and through
that met a woman in the United States.

The relationship progressed to the telephone, where he accumulated an
unpaid Telstra bill of more than $3000.

Eventually, he decided he would follow his heart and in September,
1996, bought a $1300 airline ticket using fake credit card numbers.

Then he applied for a passport in the name of Matthew Christie
fearing he would not get a legitimate passport because he was on bail.

Using the false passport, he joined his love in Philadelphia and
stayed for several months.

He decided to return only when he discovered his mother had cancer
but was robbed while in New York on the way home.

Without his passport, he successfully applied to the Australian
Embassy for an emergency travel document, again under a false name and
this time with a fake birth certificate faxed from Australia.

Yesterday, in the Port Adelaide Magistrates Court, Commonwealth
prosecutor Mr Ross Christoforou said Goodyear had woven a "web of
deceit" which jeopardised the integrity of the passport system.

Mr Simon Slade, for Goodyear, said he had been caught up in a ring run
by others and had made full admissions once he was detected, pleading
guilty to 12 fraud charges and two passport charges.

He said Goodyear was unemployed and could not pay the $9000
compensation.

Magistrate Mr Charles Eardley sentenced Goodyear to cumulative terms
of 18 and five months, with a minimum term of 14 months.



Awww, but what ever became of his true love? *sniff sniff*

MP
Fucked if i know, ask Fiona Clarke
 
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:14:02 +1100, "Chad Sexington" <mad@theworld.com>
wrote:


G-G calls for fewer abortions
By Lincoln Wright
November 7, 2004

GOVERNOR-General Michael Jeffery entered the abortion debate yesterday
when he declared there were too many terminations in Australia.

Maj-Gen Jeffery, 67, said he was not criticising women who had to make
a "terrible decision", but 100,000 abortions a year were too many for
a country with Australia's population.

"That's as many as our immigration quota. It's an awful lot," Maj-Gen
Jeffery said. "Look at our population. It's a lot of lives. I would
agree with any prescription that said that we all have to work
together to keep it to an absolute minimum.

"Nobody likes it. The girls who have to go through it, the families
and so on."

Maj-Gen Jeffery said he believed that improved education was the best
method to reduce the numbers.

With a majority in the new Senate, senior Howard Government ministers
are proposing a limit on Medicare-funded abortions, especially of
late-term fetuses.

In an interview with the Sunday Herald Sun, Maj-Gen Jeffery, who is a
little more than a year into his job as Governor-General, also
attacked Australia's celebrity culture and revealed he will visit
China next year.

The former Governor of Western Australia and head of the SAS insisted
he was not a rubber stamp for the government of the day.

And he outlined a new role as a sort of "super diplomat" representing
Australian interests overseas.

Maj-Gen Jeffery, a Vietnam veteran, said he believed the cult of
celebrity heroes in sport or popular culture was being taken too
seriously.

"Hero in the old sense was warrior-like, I guess, denoting bravery and
courage and so on," he said.

"In recent times, it seems to me we give the category of hero more to
celebrity-type culture. But I think you have to be a bit careful of
whom you define as national icons or heroes in the true sense."

Maj-Gen Jeffery said he believed parts of the media were too
preoccupied with bad news and also warned Australians not to be
rattled by the threat of terrorism.

"One of the ways to beat terrorism is to show that we are not
frightened by it and that we don't react to it in a stupid way," he
said.

"There's a great danger that we get so worried about these things that
they impact on our lives and we refuse to travel or go to the beach or
to a restaurant - and I don't think that's quite right."

Continued Page 4 Maj-Gen Jeffery also said he believed that Islamic
terrorists who made out they were driven by religion were "just
fooling themselves".

"I don't see that particular philosophy (terrorism) as having anything
to do with religion and the teachings of religion. Mohammed, I'm sure,
would be horrified. And Christ would be horrified," Maj-Gen Jeffery
said. "Look at the basic teachings of these great religions - which
talk about the brotherhood of men, doing unto others, loving thy
neighbour as thy self - the fundamentals.

"It's a bit hard to then go out and kill babies and blow people up
with explosives if you believe in that philosophy."

Maj-Gen Jeffery said China's President, Hu Jintao, had invited him on
a state visit, the first by an Australian Governor-General, which he
hoped to make next year.

And he said he had been impressed by US President George W. Bush
during a recent 40-minute one-on-one talk.

Maj-Gen Jeffery has been trying to restore respect for the
Governor-General's office since replacing Archbishop Peter
Hollingworth, who resigned during a scandal over the Anglican Church's
handling of child abuse cases last year.

Praising the power of evangelical religion to instil values, the
Governor-General said he was a strong Christian and a believer in the
afterlife.

"I have a strong sense of spirituality. I believe every human is born
with a spirit that makes us different from birds and bees and trees,"
he said.

Sunday Herald Sun





The Advertiser September 12, 1998, Saturday
Copyright 1998 Nationwide News Pty Limited

The Advertiser
September 12, 1998, Saturday
LENGTH: 382 words

HEADLINE: FRAUD MAN SIGNS HIS OWN PASSPORT TO PRISON; Trapped in a;
net of global deceit

BYLINE: By Court Reporter FIONA CLARK

BODY:
IT IS a story of a false passport, credit cards, the Internet and true love.

It is also the story of Matthew Goodyear otherwise known as Matthew
Christie, Matthew Colley, Andrea Colley, Matthew Patterson, Jacqueline
Hogan, Shane Stewart, G. Christie and Henry J. Francis.

All of these names were used by 23-year-old Goodyear in a credit card
scam which took him halfway across the world and yesterday landed him
in jail. It began when Goodyear, of Glenelg North, went back to school
to do Year 12.

A friend initiated him into a ring where false names and credit card
details were being swapped and used.

Between January, 1996, and last October, Goodyear used the false cards
to purchase goods over the phone, racking up thousands of dollars in
bills.

At the same time, Goodyear had started using the Internet and through
that met a woman in the United States.

The relationship progressed to the telephone, where he accumulated an
unpaid Telstra bill of more than $3000.

Eventually, he decided he would follow his heart and in September,
1996, bought a $1300 airline ticket using fake credit card numbers.

Then he applied for a passport in the name of Matthew Christie
fearing he would not get a legitimate passport because he was on bail.

Using the false passport, he joined his love in Philadelphia and
stayed for several months.

He decided to return only when he discovered his mother had cancer
but was robbed while in New York on the way home.

Without his passport, he successfully applied to the Australian
Embassy for an emergency travel document, again under a false name and
this time with a fake birth certificate faxed from Australia.

Yesterday, in the Port Adelaide Magistrates Court, Commonwealth
prosecutor Mr Ross Christoforou said Goodyear had woven a "web of
deceit" which jeopardised the integrity of the passport system.

Mr Simon Slade, for Goodyear, said he had been caught up in a ring run
by others and had made full admissions once he was detected, pleading
guilty to 12 fraud charges and two passport charges.

He said Goodyear was unemployed and could not pay the $9000
compensation.

Magistrate Mr Charles Eardley sentenced Goodyear to cumulative terms
of 18 and five months, with a minimum term of 14 months.

"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 10:25:50 +1100, "Chad Sexington" <mad@theworld.com
wrote:


Wow, love the semi-retarded rant that just ejaculated from your mouth.

Go back to the dole queue, they need to verify that you really were
knocked back for envelope stuffing duties at the local spastic
foundation.


And for the record, you cant " scam " a passport.


So true !!

And look out Rod "Bi-polar Disorder" Speed and Matthew "Credit Card /
Passport scammer " discussing the same subject. There goes the IQ average
for this news-group.

Here's a precursor to their forthcoming discussion

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "


Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "


Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "



"Mug Punter" <mug@tab.com.au> wrote in message
news:2v2afrF2h3lnrU1@uni-berlin.de...

"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:14 +1100, "eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote:



Also, they can get your number a lot easier than most people realise.

*If you dont get a statement in the mail that month, call the bank and
cancel your card- Someone has nicked your mail and it quite clearly
has your credit card number printed on it..sure it doesnt have the
expiry, but if they use any date within the next 5 years it will be
succesful most times.

*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put your card on
the counter for the girlie to take swipe...anyone standing next to you
can see the number and memorise it. You think 16 digits is hard to
memorise? First you just need to see what bank it is from. If you know
that you will know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular
type card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..

*If you are in a bank NEVER write your account number down on a slip
that is sitting on another piece of paper and then put the other bit
of paper back. People can take impressions



Tips from the master himself!.
 
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:21:15 GMT, "Wearsya Bean Hiding"
<whearsya@beanhiding.com> wrote:

"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:14 +1100, "eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote:


Someone has nicked your mail and it quite clearly
has your credit card number printed on it..sure it doesnt have the
expiry, but if they use any date within the next 5 years it will be
succesful most times.

NO - NONSENSE, the expiry date entered must be correct.

Wrong.
I must be valid.
 

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