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eltan

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Emailed from friend...

When I received this email, I phoned Natalie Kent at the Local Government
Association of Queensland (phone 07 3000 2239), and verified the accuracy of
the content. Natalie confirmed this scam is real, and not a hoax email. This
information is worth reading.

By understanding how the VISA & MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works,
you'll be better prepared to protect yourself. Con artists get more creative
every day.... My spouse was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was
called on Thursday from "MasterCard".

The scam works like this: Person calling says, "this is <name>, and I'm
calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is
12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm
calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by name
bank. Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a
marketing company based in Arizona?" When you say "No", the caller continues
with, "Then we will be issuing credit to your account. This is a company we
have been watching and the charges range from$297 to $497, just under the
$500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the
credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?" You say
"yes". The caller continues. "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If
you have any questions, you should call the 1-800 number listed on the back
of your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control #"
The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it
again?" Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then
says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you
to "turn your card over and look for some numbers. There are 7 numbers; the
first 4 are your card number, the next 3 are the 'Security Numbers' that
verify you are in possession of the card. These are the numbers you use to
make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. Read me the 3 numbers".
After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say ,"That is correct. I just
needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you
still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say No,
the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you
do", and hangs up.

You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the card
number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20
minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did!

The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15
minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charge on our card. Long story made
short, we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA card, and they are
reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number
on the back of the card.

Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card
direct. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the
card as they already know the information since they issued the card!

If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving
a credit. However, by the time you get your statement, you'll see charges
for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late and/or harder
to actually file a fraud report.

What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a
"Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA
scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police
report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of
these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this
scam is happening. Please pass this on to all your friends. By informing
each other, we protect each other.

Natalie Kent Manager, Finance, Governance and Community Local Government
Association of Queensland 25 Evelyn Street, Newstead PO Box 2230, Fortitude
Valley BC Brisbane QLD 4000
 
eltan wrote:
Emailed from friend...

snip
Refer to

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/creditcard.asp
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_credit_card_fraud.htm

Yes this sort of thing can happen, but I seriously doubt if anyone in
Australia had this incident happen to them EXACTLY as claimed in the
email. This sort of social engineering can occur but please don't
forward on emails that claim "send to everyone you know" - They just
waste bandwidth and are often untrue.

PS, I pity Natalie as you've quite happily spread around her contact
details inviting people to call her. I can bet she didn't have this
event happen to her and the juxtapositioning of her signature at the end
( a common email trait) didn't mean she was the original author of the
tale of woe. If you really wanted to post it as an "Off topic" you
should have removed her from it...
 
"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
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Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I will give you points for the warning to other stupid people, though.
Grow up peoples. Keep tabs on your details!! It's not rocket science!!
C
 
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:11:33 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
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Emailed from friend...

Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I will give you points for the warning to other stupid people, though.
Grow up peoples. Keep tabs on your details!! It's not rocket science!!
C

Many transactions can take DAYS to show up on electronic banking,
especially credit card purchases.
 
"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
news:cmf3nm$2dks$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Emailed from friend...

When I received this email, I phoned Natalie Kent at the Local Government
Association of Queensland (phone 07 3000 2239), and verified the accuracy
of
the content. Natalie confirmed this scam is real, and not a hoax email.
This
information is worth reading.
You needed to ring someone to find out that you were an idiot?
 
"KLR" <kenreed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:11:33 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> wrote:


"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
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Emailed from friend...

Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I will give you points for the warning to other stupid people, though.
Grow up peoples. Keep tabs on your details!! It's not rocket science!!
C



Many transactions can take DAYS to show up on electronic banking,
especially credit card purchases.
.....which is why I stated "(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing
yet)". The available credit (balance) usually is reduced immediately the
transaction is presented. In this case, the caller is obviously referring to
an electronic transaction ( or did you not pick that up???), as he referred
to a certain (albeit fictitious) transaction. Even half-wits would realise
that indicates this person is alleging he has seen evidence ie
electronically, surely????
I maintain my stance.
C
 
"C" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message

....which is why I stated "(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing
yet)". The available credit (balance) usually is reduced immediately the
transaction is presented. In this case, the caller is obviously referring
to
an electronic transaction ( or did you not pick that up???), as he
referred
to a certain (albeit fictitious) transaction. Even half-wits would realise
that indicates this person is alleging he has seen evidence ie
electronically, surely????
I maintain my stance.
C

You sound like the sort of guy that needs a good punch in the mouth from
time to time, just to put you back into your box.
 
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"C" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message

....which is why I stated "(even if the actual transaction wasn't
showing
yet)". The available credit (balance) usually is reduced immediately the
transaction is presented. In this case, the caller is obviously
referring
to
an electronic transaction ( or did you not pick that up???), as he
referred
to a certain (albeit fictitious) transaction. Even half-wits would
realise
that indicates this person is alleging he has seen evidence ie
electronically, surely????
I maintain my stance.
C

You sound like the sort of guy that needs a good punch in the mouth from
time to time, just to put you back into your box.

Do I? That's funny!!
C
 
I better send Natalie Kent Manager, Finance, Governance and Community Local
Government
Association of Queensland 25 Evelyn Street, Newstead PO Box 2230, Fortitude
Valley BC Brisbane QLD 4000
a letter to tell her not to forward urban myths to just anyone, they can end
up on the internet



"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
news:cmf3nm$2dks$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Emailed from friend...

When I received this email, I phoned Natalie Kent at the Local Government
Association of Queensland (phone 07 3000 2239), and verified the accuracy
of
the content. Natalie confirmed this scam is real, and not a hoax email.
This
information is worth reading.

By understanding how the VISA & MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam
works,
you'll be better prepared to protect yourself. Con artists get more
creative
every day.... My spouse was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was
called on Thursday from "MasterCard".

The scam works like this: Person calling says, "this is <name>, and I'm
calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is
12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm
calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by
name
bank. Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a
marketing company based in Arizona?" When you say "No", the caller
continues
with, "Then we will be issuing credit to your account. This is a company
we
have been watching and the charges range from$297 to $497, just under the
$500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement,
the
credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?" You say
"yes". The caller continues. "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If
you have any questions, you should call the 1-800 number listed on the
back
of your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control
#"
The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it
again?" Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then
says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you
to "turn your card over and look for some numbers. There are 7 numbers;
the
first 4 are your card number, the next 3 are the 'Security Numbers' that
verify you are in possession of the card. These are the numbers you use to
make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. Read me the 3
numbers".
After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say ,"That is correct. I
just
needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you
still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say No,
the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you
do", and hangs up.

You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the card
number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20
minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did!

The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15
minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charge on our card. Long story made
short, we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA card, and they are
reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN
number
on the back of the card.

Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card
direct. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the
card as they already know the information since they issued the card!

If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're
receiving
a credit. However, by the time you get your statement, you'll see charges
for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late and/or
harder
to actually file a fraud report.

What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a
"Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA
scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police
report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of
these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that
this
scam is happening. Please pass this on to all your friends. By informing
each other, we protect each other.

Natalie Kent Manager, Finance, Governance and Community Local Government
Association of Queensland 25 Evelyn Street, Newstead PO Box 2230,
Fortitude
Valley BC Brisbane QLD 4000
 
www.snopes.com

very old urban myth
make sure you dont press #90# on your australian mobile either . . .

"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
news:cmf3nm$2dks$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Emailed from friend...

When I received this email, I phoned Natalie Kent at the Local Government
Association of Queensland (phone 07 3000 2239), and verified the accuracy
of
the content. Natalie confirmed this scam is real, and not a hoax email.
This
information is worth reading.

By understanding how the VISA & MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam
works,
you'll be better prepared to protect yourself. Con artists get more
creative
every day.... My spouse was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was
called on Thursday from "MasterCard".

The scam works like this: Person calling says, "this is <name>, and I'm
calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is
12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm
calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by
name
bank. Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a
marketing company based in Arizona?" When you say "No", the caller
continues
with, "Then we will be issuing credit to your account. This is a company
we
have been watching and the charges range from$297 to $497, just under the
$500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement,
the
credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?" You say
"yes". The caller continues. "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If
you have any questions, you should call the 1-800 number listed on the
back
of your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control
#"
The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it
again?" Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then
says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you
to "turn your card over and look for some numbers. There are 7 numbers;
the
first 4 are your card number, the next 3 are the 'Security Numbers' that
verify you are in possession of the card. These are the numbers you use to
make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. Read me the 3
numbers".
After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say ,"That is correct. I
just
needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you
still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say No,
the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you
do", and hangs up.

You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the card
number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20
minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did!

The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15
minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charge on our card. Long story made
short, we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA card, and they are
reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN
number
on the back of the card.

Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card
direct. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the
card as they already know the information since they issued the card!

If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're
receiving
a credit. However, by the time you get your statement, you'll see charges
for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late and/or
harder
to actually file a fraud report.

What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a
"Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA
scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police
report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of
these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that
this
scam is happening. Please pass this on to all your friends. By informing
each other, we protect each other.

Natalie Kent Manager, Finance, Governance and Community Local Government
Association of Queensland 25 Evelyn Street, Newstead PO Box 2230,
Fortitude
Valley BC Brisbane QLD 4000
 
"KLR" <kenreed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:11:33 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> wrote:


"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
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Emailed from friend...

Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I will give you points for the warning to other stupid people, though.
Grow up peoples. Keep tabs on your details!! It's not rocket science!!
C



Many transactions can take DAYS to show up on electronic banking,
especially credit card purchases.
In most cases you have a transaction record on Internet banking with the
amount, regardless of whether the purchase has been settled to your card.
With NAB it looks like this
01/01/2004 PURCHASE AUTHORISATION $499.97
 
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:48:36 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

"KLR" <kenreed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:11:33 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> wrote:


"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
news:cmf3nm$2dks$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Emailed from friend...

Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I will give you points for the warning to other stupid people, though.
Grow up peoples. Keep tabs on your details!! It's not rocket science!!
C



Many transactions can take DAYS to show up on electronic banking,
especially credit card purchases.

....which is why I stated "(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing
yet)". The available credit (balance) usually is reduced immediately the
transaction is presented. In this case, the caller is obviously referring to
an electronic transaction ( or did you not pick that up???), as he referred
to a certain (albeit fictitious) transaction. Even half-wits would realise
that indicates this person is alleging he has seen evidence ie
electronically, surely????
I maintain my stance.
C
With my ANZ Credit card account - it frequently takes some days for
the "available credit" level to reduce on the credit card balance.

even if the merchant does the transaction on an electronic EFTPOS
terminal (like 99% of them have nowadays).

It would therefore likely take days for a consumer to be able to
confirm whether a "bogus fraudulent transaction" was indeed bogus.

At times I have needed confirmation of a transaction I have found the
electronic system to be next to useless if you are in any hurry.

The terminals in the branch aren't any more up to date either.



----------------------------
The best test to see if such a call (or for that matter, suspicious
email/hoax bank webpage etc) is fraudulent - is to give deliberately
wrong information to them on the phone or on the web. If the situation
isn't legit - they will NOT tell you that the info is wrong and to try
again, they will accept it - whereas the legitimate institution will
ask you to correct it as its not correct.


Another rule i have had for some time - is to NEVER give out any info
etc to anyone showing "private" or "unavailable" as a caller ID.
---------------------------------------------------------
 
reminds me of these idiots that were on today tonight who got sucked in by
some lottery scam where they were sent a letter being told they won $3
million but they wouldnt get it until they sent the company $3,000, which
they promptly did of course, then they were told it wasnt enough they had to
send another $4k before the company could release the details of the lottery
to them, they did that, & what a suprise, they didnt get their $3 million
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MORONS!

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"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
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Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I will give you points for the warning to other stupid people, though.
Grow up peoples. Keep tabs on your details!! It's not rocket science!!
C
 
"KLR" <kenreed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:48:36 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> wrote:


"KLR" <kenreed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:11:33 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> wrote:


"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
news:cmf3nm$2dks$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Emailed from friend...

Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with
half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available
credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I will give you points for the warning to other stupid people, though.
Grow up peoples. Keep tabs on your details!! It's not rocket science!!
C



Many transactions can take DAYS to show up on electronic banking,
especially credit card purchases.

....which is why I stated "(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing
yet)". The available credit (balance) usually is reduced immediately the
transaction is presented. In this case, the caller is obviously referring
to
an electronic transaction ( or did you not pick that up???), as he
referred
to a certain (albeit fictitious) transaction. Even half-wits would
realise
that indicates this person is alleging he has seen evidence ie
electronically, surely????
I maintain my stance.
C


With my ANZ Credit card account - it frequently takes some days for
the "available credit" level to reduce on the credit card balance.

even if the merchant does the transaction on an electronic EFTPOS
terminal (like 99% of them have nowadays).

It would therefore likely take days for a consumer to be able to
confirm whether a "bogus fraudulent transaction" was indeed bogus.

At times I have needed confirmation of a transaction I have found the
electronic system to be next to useless if you are in any hurry.

The terminals in the branch aren't any more up to date either.
My account does behave as 'C' suggests. Any electronic transactions deduct
from the available credit immediately.
 
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:14 +1100, "eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote:



Also, they can get your number a lot easier than most people realise.

*If you dont get a statement in the mail that month, call the bank and
cancel your card- Someone has nicked your mail and it quite clearly
has your credit card number printed on it..sure it doesnt have the
expiry, but if they use any date within the next 5 years it will be
succesful most times.

*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put your card on
the counter for the girlie to take swipe...anyone standing next to you
can see the number and memorise it. You think 16 digits is hard to
memorise? First you just need to see what bank it is from. If you know
that you will know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular
type card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..

*If you are in a bank NEVER write your account number down on a slip
that is sitting on another piece of paper and then put the other bit
of paper back. People can take impressions



Emailed from friend...

When I received this email, I phoned Natalie Kent at the Local Government
Association of Queensland (phone 07 3000 2239), and verified the accuracy of
the content. Natalie confirmed this scam is real, and not a hoax email. This
information is worth reading.

By understanding how the VISA & MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works,
you'll be better prepared to protect yourself. Con artists get more creative
every day.... My spouse was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was
called on Thursday from "MasterCard".

The scam works like this: Person calling says, "this is <name>, and I'm
calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is
12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm
calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by name
bank. Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a
marketing company based in Arizona?" When you say "No", the caller continues
with, "Then we will be issuing credit to your account. This is a company we
have been watching and the charges range from$297 to $497, just under the
$500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the
credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?" You say
"yes". The caller continues. "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If
you have any questions, you should call the 1-800 number listed on the back
of your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control #"
The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it
again?" Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then
says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you
to "turn your card over and look for some numbers. There are 7 numbers; the
first 4 are your card number, the next 3 are the 'Security Numbers' that
verify you are in possession of the card. These are the numbers you use to
make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. Read me the 3 numbers".
After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say ,"That is correct. I just
needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you
still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say No,
the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you
do", and hangs up.

You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the card
number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20
minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did!

The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15
minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charge on our card. Long story made
short, we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA card, and they are
reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number
on the back of the card.

Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card
direct. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the
card as they already know the information since they issued the card!

If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving
a credit. However, by the time you get your statement, you'll see charges
for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late and/or harder
to actually file a fraud report.

What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a
"Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA
scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police
report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of
these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this
scam is happening. Please pass this on to all your friends. By informing
each other, we protect each other.

Natalie Kent Manager, Finance, Governance and Community Local Government
Association of Queensland 25 Evelyn Street, Newstead PO Box 2230, Fortitude
Valley BC Brisbane QLD 4000
 
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:11:33 +1100, "C" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
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Haven't you ever heard of "Internet Banking"?? Sheesh! Anyone with half a
finger on the pulse, would have known their balance and available credit
(even if the actual transaction wasn't showing yet).
I will give you points for the warning to other stupid people, though.
Grow up peoples. Keep tabs on your details!! It's not rocket science!!
C
Are you a nerd?
Do you think everyone uses the net?
Fark, i've been using the net longer than you've been alive and i
still dont check the balances of my credit cards every day.
 
"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:14 +1100, "eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote:



Also, they can get your number a lot easier than most people realise.

*If you dont get a statement in the mail that month, call the bank and
cancel your card- Someone has nicked your mail and it quite clearly
has your credit card number printed on it..sure it doesnt have the
expiry, but if they use any date within the next 5 years it will be
succesful most times.

*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put your card on
the counter for the girlie to take swipe...anyone standing next to you
can see the number and memorise it. You think 16 digits is hard to
memorise? First you just need to see what bank it is from. If you know
that you will know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular
type card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..

*If you are in a bank NEVER write your account number down on a slip
that is sitting on another piece of paper and then put the other bit
of paper back. People can take impressions
Tips from the master himself!.
 
Matthew <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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eltan <eltan@start.com.au> wrote

Also, they can get your number a lot easier than most people realise.
Fat lot of good that is to anyone.

*If you dont get a statement in the mail that month, call
the bank and cancel your card- Someone has nicked your
mail and it quite clearly has your credit card number printed
on it..sure it doesnt have the expiry, but if they use any
date within the next 5 years it will be succesful most times.
Mindless silly stuff. You can always deny the transaction
in the extremely remote possibility that that ever happens.

*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put
your card on the counter for the girlie to take swipe... anyone
standing next to you can see the number and memorise it.
Fat lot of good that is to anyone.

You think 16 digits is hard to memorise? First you just
need to see what bank it is from. If you know that you will
know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular type
card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..
See above.

*If you are in a bank NEVER write your account number down
on a slip that is sitting on another piece of paper and then put
the other bit of paper back. People can take impressions
See above.

And I'm not silly enough to go anywhere near any bank in person anyway.
 
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 08:43:17 +1100, "Mug Punter" <mug@tab.com.au>
wrote:

"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
news:eapno0prerhgv4cob0ap9it22ib2ud0co5@4ax.com...
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:14 +1100, "eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote:



Also, they can get your number a lot easier than most people realise.

*If you dont get a statement in the mail that month, call the bank and
cancel your card- Someone has nicked your mail and it quite clearly
has your credit card number printed on it..sure it doesnt have the
expiry, but if they use any date within the next 5 years it will be
succesful most times.

*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put your card on
the counter for the girlie to take swipe...anyone standing next to you
can see the number and memorise it. You think 16 digits is hard to
memorise? First you just need to see what bank it is from. If you know
that you will know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular
type card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..

*If you are in a bank NEVER write your account number down on a slip
that is sitting on another piece of paper and then put the other bit
of paper back. People can take impressions



Tips from the master himself!.
Wrong.
 
So true !!

And look out Rod "Bi-polar Disorder" Speed and Matthew "Credit Card /
Passport scammer " discussing the same subject. There goes the IQ average
for this news-group.

Here's a precursor to their forthcoming discussion

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "


Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "


Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "

Speedy - "Mindless pureile shit, no wonder you are completely
unemployable."

Goodyear - "Wrong "



"Mug Punter" <mug@tab.com.au> wrote in message
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"Matthew." <cant@remember.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:14 +1100, "eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote:



Also, they can get your number a lot easier than most people realise.

*If you dont get a statement in the mail that month, call the bank and
cancel your card- Someone has nicked your mail and it quite clearly
has your credit card number printed on it..sure it doesnt have the
expiry, but if they use any date within the next 5 years it will be
succesful most times.

*When you are standing in line at the checkout NEVER put your card on
the counter for the girlie to take swipe...anyone standing next to you
can see the number and memorise it. You think 16 digits is hard to
memorise? First you just need to see what bank it is from. If you know
that you will know the first 8 numbers are the same for a particular
type card. You really only need to remember the last 8 numbers.
This can also happen in banks, stores, etc etc..

*If you are in a bank NEVER write your account number down on a slip
that is sitting on another piece of paper and then put the other bit
of paper back. People can take impressions



Tips from the master himself!.
 

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