OT: Bon Voyage UK!

[Piotr Wyderski]

Tom Gardner wrote:

The Russians -- sure, but the Chinese? Where is that Europe, anyhow?
Oh, look, Zhang Wei, *there*... You are mixing leagues, 'm afraid.

The Chinese are not like that any more.

The EU is a sufficiently global player only if the member states speak
with a single voice, which seldom happens. There are local German and
French interests, there was the UK, finally there is the Polish US
trojan donkey. The whole organisation is then not even close to the
global league. Russia has never been, it is not the Soviet Union.

> Politically/militarily they are rapidly expanding on the world stage.

Bless them.

They are based in Scotland, and the Scots' politicians
have claimed they don't want them.

Ukraine had been told not to want them as well and Russia even was one
of the countries that warranted their teritorial integrity in the 1994
Budapest agreement. Now they don't have nukes, but in return have two
Ukraines, mharharhar... :-D

Best regards, Piotr

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 02/02/20 10:18, Piotr Wyderski wrote:

John Robertson wrote:

The Chinese and Russians are rejoicing that the EU is weaker competition.

The Russians -- sure, but the Chinese? Where is that Europe, anyhow? Oh, look,
Zhang Wei, *there*... You are mixing leagues, 'm afraid.

The Chinese are not like that any more.

Politically/militarily they are rapidly expanding on the world stage.
There are even a surprisingly large number of Chinese tourists in
the UK, and they crop up in surprising places, for example Kidlington
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-37820663

The UK is going to get smaller when Scotland separates

215 nuclear warheads and 4 boomers look more than enough to ensure a merry
future of the kingdom.

They are based in Scotland, and the Scots' politicians
have claimed they don't want them.

Their long-term independence from the USA is questionable.

 

[Piotr Wyderski]

John Larkin wrote:

> The Brits were smart to keep their own currency.

The Brits had wanted to join the common currency that became the Euro,
but Mr. Soros told them to retreat:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Best regards, Piotr

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 21:59:31 +0000, JM <dontreplytothis173@gmail.com>
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-FT3W-rXsA

Some idiot bitching about nationalist English people is moving to
Scotland where the ruling party is the Scottish Nationalists! I hope
it works out well for him so he doesn't have to come back and be a
burden on the English welfare system.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 11:08:49 +0100, Piotr Wyderski
<peter.pan@neverland.mil> wrote:

I concur, thank you for Brexit and especially this entire Monty Python's
Flying Circus team that was implementing it. Fantastic speculation
opportunities on the GBP exchange rates, hitched a few rides. Honestly,
very much appreciated! Godspeed!

I did very nicely out of the forex fluctuations, too. The absurd
undervalue of the pound sterling at times helped me afford some rare
treats I might otherwise have denied myself.

Minor disadvantage: Farnell is no longer an EU company, no reason to
prefer it to Mouser now.

Farnell got taken over and are not worth the time of day now. Sad I
had to say goodbye after so many years of good service but there was
no alternative. It's Mouser and Digikey for me these days.

Will need to find my passport as well, the
ID will no longer suffice on the airport.

Best also bring along some documentary evidence you're not carrying
fleas or lice to save a wasted trip.
--

"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 10:48:25 +0000, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Politically/militarily they are rapidly expanding on the world stage.
There are even a surprisingly large number of Chinese tourists in
the UK, and they crop up in surprising places, for example Kidlington
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-37820663

They have acquired an infatuation with a certain expensive little
hamlet in the Cotswolds which they believe is the quintessential
English village. Can't recall which one, but it's got terraces of
those yellow brick cottages and is actually very chocolate-boxy and
photogenic..

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 4:29:13 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 11:08:49 +0100, Piotr Wyderski
peter.pan@neverland.mil> wrote:

I concur, thank you for Brexit and especially this entire Monty Python's
Flying Circus team that was implementing it. Fantastic speculation
opportunities on the GBP exchange rates, hitched a few rides. Honestly,
very much appreciated! Godspeed!

I did very nicely out of the forex fluctuations, too. The absurd
undervalue of the pound sterling at times helped me afford some rare
treats I might otherwise have denied myself.

Minor disadvantage: Farnell is no longer an EU company, no reason to
prefer it to Mouser now.

Farnell got taken over and are not worth the time of day now. Sad I
had to say goodbye after so many years of good service but there was
no alternative. It's Mouser and Digikey for me these days.

Will need to find my passport as well, the
ID will no longer suffice on the airport.

Best also bring along some documentary evidence you're not carrying
fleas or lice to save a wasted trip.

The UK is very picky about the species of flea and lice they will accommodate - if they haven't been to a British public school they aren't allowed to parasitise the UK.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Michael Kellett]

On 03/02/2020 11:10, Michael Kellett wrote:

On 31/01/2020 22:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:
In about 45 minutes from now, the UK will finally leave the EU. I'll
be raising a glass or two of bubbly to the British (and especially the
English and the Welsh) for having the fortitude to face down all the
stooges, the scare-mongers, the closet Federalists, the 5th
Columnists, the Commies and the rest of the 'enemy within' - both
inside parliament and out - who have thrown every obstacle they could
think of in an attempt to thwart and usurp the democratic Will of the
people. They'd previously succeeded in Greece, they'd succeeded in
Italy, they'd succeeded in Spain - but they didn't succeed in Britain!

Cheers, Brits! :-D
"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised.
We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should
European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in
this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island
race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill

Hello Guys, as someone who lives not only in the UK but in Scotland I
feel I get to add my Brexit 50p worth:

We voted out in a referendum and then supported leave parties in the UK
Elections to the European Parliament and in two general elections.

We apparently meant what we said the first time and went on meaning it
through three subsequent national public elections.

We had a referendum about Scottish indpendence and we (in Scotland)
voted against it. Current opinion poles show no significant change in
attitudes to independence in Scotland. It is significant the the SNP
(Scottish National Party) is not currently requesting a referendum, but
a change in the law of the UK to allow it to callone at any time they
choose with any franchise they choose.

There is a general feeling in Scotland that we would rather the
govenement got on with the day to day stuff rather than wasting time
debating if they should continut to fly the EU flag. (An unholy alliance
of the SNP and Green Party decided that they would spit in the face of
democracy and do so.)

I'll conclude with the general UK sentiment, admirably expressed on
(some of) out coins:

Peace, prosperity and friendship with all nations

Seems fair enough to me.

MK



sorry - typo, should say - "(some of) our coins"

MK

 

[Michael Kellett]

On 31/01/2020 22:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:

In about 45 minutes from now, the UK will finally leave the EU. I'll
be raising a glass or two of bubbly to the British (and especially the
English and the Welsh) for having the fortitude to face down all the
stooges, the scare-mongers, the closet Federalists, the 5th
Columnists, the Commies and the rest of the 'enemy within' - both
inside parliament and out - who have thrown every obstacle they could
think of in an attempt to thwart and usurp the democratic Will of the
people. They'd previously succeeded in Greece, they'd succeeded in
Italy, they'd succeeded in Spain - but they didn't succeed in Britain!

Cheers, Brits! :-D
"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill

Hello Guys, as someone who lives not only in the UK but in Scotland I
feel I get to add my Brexit 50p worth:

We voted out in a referendum and then supported leave parties in the UK
Elections to the European Parliament and in two general elections.

We apparently meant what we said the first time and went on meaning it
through three subsequent national public elections.

We had a referendum about Scottish indpendence and we (in Scotland)
voted against it. Current opinion poles show no significant change in
attitudes to independence in Scotland. It is significant the the SNP
(Scottish National Party) is not currently requesting a referendum, but
a change in the law of the UK to allow it to callone at any time they
choose with any franchise they choose.

There is a general feeling in Scotland that we would rather the
govenement got on with the day to day stuff rather than wasting time
debating if they should continut to fly the EU flag. (An unholy alliance
of the SNP and Green Party decided that they would spit in the face of
democracy and do so.)

I'll conclude with the general UK sentiment, admirably expressed on
(some of) out coins:

Peace, prosperity and friendship with all nations

Seems fair enough to me.

MK

 

On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 11:10:14 +0000, Michael Kellett <mk@mkesc.co.uk>
wrote:

On 31/01/2020 22:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:
In about 45 minutes from now, the UK will finally leave the EU. I'll
be raising a glass or two of bubbly to the British (and especially the
English and the Welsh) for having the fortitude to face down all the
stooges, the scare-mongers, the closet Federalists, the 5th
Columnists, the Commies and the rest of the 'enemy within' - both
inside parliament and out - who have thrown every obstacle they could
think of in an attempt to thwart and usurp the democratic Will of the
people. They'd previously succeeded in Greece, they'd succeeded in
Italy, they'd succeeded in Spain - but they didn't succeed in Britain!

Cheers, Brits! :-D
"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill

Hello Guys, as someone who lives not only in the UK but in Scotland I
feel I get to add my Brexit 50p worth:

We voted out in a referendum and then supported leave parties in the UK
Elections to the European Parliament and in two general elections.

We apparently meant what we said the first time and went on meaning it
through three subsequent national public elections.

We had a referendum about Scottish indpendence and we (in Scotland)
voted against it. Current opinion poles show no significant change in
attitudes to independence in Scotland. It is significant the the SNP
(Scottish National Party) is not currently requesting a referendum, but
a change in the law of the UK to allow it to callone at any time they
choose with any franchise they choose.

There is a general feeling in Scotland that we would rather the
govenement got on with the day to day stuff rather than wasting time
debating if they should continut to fly the EU flag. (An unholy alliance
of the SNP and Green Party decided that they would spit in the face of
democracy and do so.)

I'll conclude with the general UK sentiment, admirably expressed on
(some of) out coins:

Peace, prosperity and friendship with all nations

Seems fair enough to me.

MK

Is there much electronics (or software) industry in Scotland? We don't
hear about much.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote in
news:MPG.38a1f5b7c238f7e5a4@news.plus.net:

In article
1e8bb00d-b8f2-4fa8-ba5d-9896301d68e9@googlegroups.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org says...

Best also bring along some documentary evidence you're not
carrying fleas or lice to save a wasted trip.

The UK is very picky about the species of flea and lice they will
accommodate - if they haven't been to a British public school
they aren't allowed to
parasitise the UK.

I never did find out where the tick that I acquired last summer
came from. I discovered it on my scrotum in the shower the day
after returning from a holiday in Greece and had to go to A&E to
get it removed; GP no help...

Mike.

GP? General Practitioner?

Hopefully it was not swollen and had just recently attached.

I guess it does not matter though... over there lime disease is
not a thing, right?

But anyway, once it bites, whatever it carries gets imparted.

 

[Michael Kellett]

On 03/02/2020 15:34, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 11:10:14 +0000, Michael Kellett <mk@mkesc.co.uk
wrote:

On 31/01/2020 22:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:
In about 45 minutes from now, the UK will finally leave the EU. I'll
be raising a glass or two of bubbly to the British (and especially the
English and the Welsh) for having the fortitude to face down all the
stooges, the scare-mongers, the closet Federalists, the 5th
Columnists, the Commies and the rest of the 'enemy within' - both
inside parliament and out - who have thrown every obstacle they could
think of in an attempt to thwart and usurp the democratic Will of the
people. They'd previously succeeded in Greece, they'd succeeded in
Italy, they'd succeeded in Spain - but they didn't succeed in Britain!

Cheers, Brits! :-D
"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill

Hello Guys, as someone who lives not only in the UK but in Scotland I
feel I get to add my Brexit 50p worth:

We voted out in a referendum and then supported leave parties in the UK
Elections to the European Parliament and in two general elections.

We apparently meant what we said the first time and went on meaning it
through three subsequent national public elections.

We had a referendum about Scottish indpendence and we (in Scotland)
voted against it. Current opinion poles show no significant change in
attitudes to independence in Scotland. It is significant the the SNP
(Scottish National Party) is not currently requesting a referendum, but
a change in the law of the UK to allow it to callone at any time they
choose with any franchise they choose.

There is a general feeling in Scotland that we would rather the
govenement got on with the day to day stuff rather than wasting time
debating if they should continut to fly the EU flag. (An unholy alliance
of the SNP and Green Party decided that they would spit in the face of
democracy and do so.)

I'll conclude with the general UK sentiment, admirably expressed on
(some of) out coins:

Peace, prosperity and friendship with all nations

Seems fair enough to me.

MK



Is there much electronics (or software) industry in Scotland? We don't
hear about much.

It's not huge but it exists. I've been based here now for 10 years and
most of my business comes from local (ie Scottish) customers. There is a
pretty good collection of Universities and that has kept a reasonable
share of startups here. Some of the big external investors have gone, so
that the mass production electronic assembly of PCs and the like is no more.
The Nationalist government in Scotland is much more socialist than the
UK government and has increased taxes in several areas to be higher than
the rest of the UK - early days yet but it surely won't help.

In SW Scotland (where I am) we have a lot of cows and a lot of trees,
last year's favorite project was a system for weighing cows.

MK

 

On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 5:18:44 PM UTC-5, Cursitor Doom wrote:

In about 45 minutes from now, the UK will finally leave the EU. I'll
be raising a glass or two of bubbly to the British (and especially the
English and the Welsh) for having the fortitude to face down all the
stooges, the scare-mongers, the closet Federalists, the 5th
Columnists, the Commies and the rest of the 'enemy within' - both
inside parliament and out - who have thrown every obstacle they could
think of in an attempt to thwart and usurp the democratic Will of the
people. They'd previously succeeded in Greece, they'd succeeded in
Italy, they'd succeeded in Spain - but they didn't succeed in Britain!

Cheers, Brits! :-D
"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill

Congratulations to the U.K. on joining the freed peoples of the
big blue marble.

For your bountiful enjoyment Mr. Doom, two mini-presentations on
the advantages of self-rule--

First, Nigel Farage's superb farewell to the EU Parliament:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/nigel-farage-bids-farewell-to-the-eu.php
(The snotty snobby Chair-Vogon's reaction at the end is priceless.)

And for a chaser, the hilarious Dominic Frisby hit, 'Brexit':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zJ8vaB5jo
(He even skewers Obama, 1:57)

Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[Jeff Layman]

On 03/02/20 15:20, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote in
news:MPG.38a1f5b7c238f7e5a4@news.plus.net:

In article
1e8bb00d-b8f2-4fa8-ba5d-9896301d68e9@googlegroups.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org says...

Best also bring along some documentary evidence you're not
carrying fleas or lice to save a wasted trip.

The UK is very picky about the species of flea and lice they will
accommodate - if they haven't been to a British public school
they aren't allowed to
parasitise the UK.

I never did find out where the tick that I acquired last summer
came from. I discovered it on my scrotum in the shower the day
after returning from a holiday in Greece and had to go to A&E to
get it removed; GP no help...

Mike.


GP? General Practitioner?

Hopefully it was not swollen and had just recently attached.

I guess it does not matter though... over there lime disease is
not a thing, right?

Unfortunately not. There were about 1600 laboratory-confirmed cases of
Lyme disease in the UK in 2017, and it is estimated there were another 1
- 2000 cases which weren't confirmed by laboratory test.

> But anyway, once it bites, whatever it carries gets imparted.

Lyme disease is not easy to treat once established.

--

Jeff

 

On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 1:59:34 PM UTC-5, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:

Am 03.02.20 um 19:37 schrieb dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com:

Congratulations to the U.K. on joining the freed peoples of the
big blue marble.

Isn't it common use over the world from China, India, Africa to America
that the words "free" and "UK" in one sentence means "free _FROM_ UK"?

Cheers, Gerhard

That's what we American colonists have been telling them
since 1776

But it wasn't until now that they've finally recently been on the
receiving end of that arrangement -- ruled rather than rulers --
that they finally understood the folly. That makes it rather fun.

Congratulations, U.K., and welcome to the party!

Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[Gerhard Hoffmann]

Am 03.02.20 um 19:37 schrieb dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com:

Congratulations to the U.K. on joining the freed peoples of the
big blue marble.

Isn't it common use over the world from China, India, Africa to America
that the words "free" and "UK" in one sentence means "free _FROM_ UK"?

Cheers, Gerhard

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 11:28:14 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 1:59:34 PM UTC-5, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 03.02.20 um 19:37 schrieb dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com:

Congratulations to the U.K. on joining the freed peoples of the
big blue marble.

Isn't it common use over the world from China, India, Africa to America
that the words "free" and "UK" in one sentence means "free _FROM_ UK"?

Cheers, Gerhard

That's what we American colonists have been telling them
since 1776

But it wasn't until now that they've finally recently been on the
receiving end of that arrangement -- ruled rather than rulers --
that they finally understood the folly. That makes it rather fun.

Congratulations, U.K., and welcome to the party!

Cheers,
James Arthur

Just eliminated another 10 or 20 levels of management.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christense]

mandag den 3. februar 2020 kl. 21.38.31 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:

On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 11:28:14 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 1:59:34 PM UTC-5, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 03.02.20 um 19:37 schrieb dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com:

Congratulations to the U.K. on joining the freed peoples of the
big blue marble.

Isn't it common use over the world from China, India, Africa to America
that the words "free" and "UK" in one sentence means "free _FROM_ UK"?

Cheers, Gerhard

That's what we American colonists have been telling them
since 1776

But it wasn't until now that they've finally recently been on the
receiving end of that arrangement -- ruled rather than rulers --
that they finally understood the folly. That makes it rather fun.

Congratulations, U.K., and welcome to the party!

Cheers,
James Arthur

Just eliminated another 10 or 20 levels of management.

not worry, they'll soon be added back in with a few extra layers to handle the interface to the other bureaucracy

 

[dcaster@krl.org]

On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 6:48:02 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:

I work with one organization that has 12 levels. The s/n seems to hit
zero after three or four. Groups care about themselves locally and not
about the ultimate good of the enterprise.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

I do not remember the exact numbers, but Nucor had something like 22 steel plants and had about 18 people in the corporate office. And had something like 4 levels of employees. Worker, foreman , plant manager, and CEO.

Dan

 

[Steve Wilson]

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

When information flows up through multiple management levels, or
commands flow back down, there is surely distortion at every
transition, like the old phone systems that garbled speech after a few
repeaters. I wonder how many management levels it takes before the s/n
ratios become useless.

I work with one organization that has 12 levels. The s/n seems to hit
zero after three or four. Groups care about themselves locally and not
about the ultimate good of the enterprise.

That's what killed Boeing after they moved their headquarters from Seattle to
Chicago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_zn_x2JK5Q