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Cursitor Doom

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In about 45 minutes from now, the UK will finally leave the EU. I'll
be raising a glass or two of bubbly to the British (and especially the
English and the Welsh) for having the fortitude to face down all the
stooges, the scare-mongers, the closet Federalists, the 5th
Columnists, the Commies and the rest of the 'enemy within' - both
inside parliament and out - who have thrown every obstacle they could
think of in an attempt to thwart and usurp the democratic Will of the
people. They'd previously succeeded in Greece, they'd succeeded in
Italy, they'd succeeded in Spain - but they didn't succeed in Britain!

Cheers, Brits! :-D
"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill
 
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 15:00:35 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

>do you live in the UK?

Once upon a time I did, yes. Now, however, I'm seriously thinking
about moving back. ;)
 
fredag den 31. januar 2020 kl. 23.18.44 UTC+1 skrev Cursitor Doom:
In about 45 minutes from now, the UK will finally leave the EU. I'll
be raising a glass or two of bubbly to the British (and especially the
English and the Welsh) for having the fortitude to face down all the
stooges, the scare-mongers, the closet Federalists, the 5th
Columnists, the Commies and the rest of the 'enemy within' - both
inside parliament and out - who have thrown every obstacle they could
think of in an attempt to thwart and usurp the democratic Will of the
people. They'd previously succeeded in Greece, they'd succeeded in
Italy, they'd succeeded in Spain - but they didn't succeed in Britain!

do you live in the UK?
 
Democracy in action. The will of the people has been carried out. About 2 years too late, but the entire western world should rejoice that free people can choose their own destiny in spite of their leaders desires.
 
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 22:18:39 +0000, Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

In about 45 minutes from now, the UK will finally leave the EU. I'll
be raising a glass or two of bubbly to the British (and especially the
English and the Welsh) for having the fortitude to face down all the
stooges, the scare-mongers, the closet Federalists, the 5th
Columnists, the Commies and the rest of the 'enemy within' - both
inside parliament and out - who have thrown every obstacle they could
think of in an attempt to thwart and usurp the democratic Will of the
people. They'd previously succeeded in Greece, they'd succeeded in
Italy, they'd succeeded in Spain - but they didn't succeed in Britain!

Cheers, Brits! :-D
"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill

The Brits were smart to keep their own currency.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
 
On 2020/01/31 3:05 p.m., bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
Democracy in action. The will of the people has been carried out. About 2 years too late, but the entire western world should rejoice that free people can choose their own destiny in spite of their leaders desires.

Time for Texas to secede then I assume. There are quite a few Texans who
would agree.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/could-texas-secede-from-the-united-states-if-it-wanted-to/


Perhaps Florida should also separate, and then why not Kansas, Maine, or
R.I.? Are Washington, Oregon, and BC still looking at creating Cascadia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_%28independence_movement%29

That makes about as much sense.

The Chinese and Russians are rejoicing that the EU is weaker competition.

The UK is going to get smaller when Scotland separates - if you think
that isn't going to happen after the fiasco of Brexit you are not facing
the new reality.

John :-#(#
 
I take it that you are not pleased with the people getting what they wanted
 
On 2020/01/31 3:24 p.m., bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
I take it that you are not pleased with the people getting what they wanted

They were lied to about the costs of staying in the EU, and were not
told the costs of leaving. So, yes, the tiny majority that voted for
leaving was misled. That doesn't matter to the Brexit camp as they would
have said anything to get their way.

Like I said, the Chinese and the Russians are thrilled that the EU is
weaker. The White House is also happy, as it is easier to bully a small
country like the UK than the entire EU.

Idiots.

Ever heard of the apparently obsolete saying - "United We Stand, Divided
We Fall!"

John :-#(#
 
On 31/01/20 23:20, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/01/31 3:05 p.m., bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
Democracy in action. The will of the people has been carried out. About 2
years too late, but the entire western world should rejoice that free people
can choose their own destiny in spite of their leaders desires.


Time for Texas to secede then I assume. There are quite a few Texans who would
agree.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/could-texas-secede-from-the-united-states-if-it-wanted-to/


Perhaps Florida should also separate, and then why not Kansas, Maine, or R.I.?
Are Washington, Oregon, and BC still looking at creating Cascadia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_%28independence_movement%29

That makes about as much sense.

The Chinese and Russians are rejoicing that the EU is weaker competition.

The UK is going to get smaller when Scotland separates - if you think that isn't
going to happen after the fiasco of Brexit you are not facing the new reality.

N Ireland will probably go first, and with that
the UK will cease to exist.

Hint: it is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain
and Northern Ireland".
 
lørdag den 1. februar 2020 kl. 00.33.23 UTC+1 skrev Tom Gardner:
On 31/01/20 23:20, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/01/31 3:05 p.m., bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
Democracy in action. The will of the people has been carried out. About 2
years too late, but the entire western world should rejoice that free people
can choose their own destiny in spite of their leaders desires.


Time for Texas to secede then I assume. There are quite a few Texans who would
agree.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/could-texas-secede-from-the-united-states-if-it-wanted-to/


Perhaps Florida should also separate, and then why not Kansas, Maine, or R.I.?
Are Washington, Oregon, and BC still looking at creating Cascadia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_%28independence_movement%29

That makes about as much sense.

The Chinese and Russians are rejoicing that the EU is weaker competition.

The UK is going to get smaller when Scotland separates - if you think that isn't
going to happen after the fiasco of Brexit you are not facing the new reality.

N Ireland will probably go first, and with that
the UK will cease to exist.

Hint: it is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain
and Northern Ireland".

yeh, afaiu Good Friday Agreement means anyone born in Northern Ireland are entitled to an Irish passport so EU citizens and there can be no hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland
 
Cursitor Doom wrote:
In about 45 minutes from now, the UK will finally leave the EU. I'll
be raising a glass or two of bubbly to the British (and especially the
English and the Welsh) for having the fortitude to face down all the
stooges, the scare-mongers, the closet Federalists, the 5th
Columnists, the Commies and the rest of the 'enemy within' - both
inside parliament and out - who have thrown every obstacle they could
think of in an attempt to thwart and usurp the democratic Will of the
people. They'd previously succeeded in Greece, they'd succeeded in
Italy, they'd succeeded in Spain - but they didn't succeed in Britain!

Cheers, Brits! :-D
"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised.
We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should
European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in
this undertaking?' we should reply, "Nay Sir, for we are an island
race and we dwell among our own."

- Winston Spencer Churchill

This is very timely because right now I'm headed to my friend's house
for a Brexit party. He's having a buffet and showing a documentary on
Churchill. No I'm not kidding!
 
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 23:33:19 +0000, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

N Ireland will probably go first, and with that
the UK will cease to exist.

Hint: it is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain
and Northern Ireland".

If the Scots and the N. Irish would prefer to leave, then I for one
would welcome that, and wish them all the best of luck for the future.
Smaller, non-federalised states operating in peaceful economic
competition and non-coercive co-operation with each other are the way
of the future. In short, "reverse-globalism" if you will.
 
John Robertson wrote:
Ever heard of the apparently obsolete saying - "United We Stand,
Divided We Fall!"

Which obviously depends on who you're united with.
 
John Robertson wrote:
Time for Texas to secede then I assume. There are quite a few Texans
who would agree.

They showed the rest of the country how to have a 3% real estate price
bubble come and then burst, instead of a 30% bubble, but few listened.
So they have good reason to break free. I'd move there.


The Chinese and Russians are rejoicing that the EU is weaker
competition.

If the objective is to make the EU stronger then kick out Greece.
 
Well it is 20:42 here at GMT-5, but I am not sure if daylight savings time works one way or the other. I THINK you are 42, well 44 minutes into it right now because the phone rang. (you are in UK right ?)

Now it starts. With that gone a whole new set of trade deals have to be made. A friend of mine is working on it, he is at major law firm in London and they will be handling this, and I mean they are now part of a permanent body to handle shit like this. He just hired an office full of people to assist in the project and has no vision of having to get rid of them soon because they are in. I cannot give his name for obvious reasons. Anyway, he says it is going to be good for the UK to get out.

He has his work though, the EU has already made noises that they want unfettered access to UK waters - or else. Or else what ? Are they going to forbid their members from trading with anyone they choose ? Fat chance.

Even more fat chance because of Boris. He is so into sovereignty he is supporting disengaging from the US militarily. This is a big mistake, they think they can handle Russia. WE CAN'T EVEN HANDLE RUSSIA ! But so be it. Russia is not the bogeyman they make it out to be, Putin is set for life and he wants what is best for Russia now. Yes he learned alot from the goniff kike soviets, but he seems to have had his fill of that and won't let them gain any foothold there now. (not average Jews, the country and their elite which consider most of their own as "lesser brethren") Yes, as a Jew you are almost as expendable as goyim unless you are bourgeoisie.

But the Soviets are gone and Putin has enough money to make Trump envious, but it doesn't because Trump has enough density to ignore it. Once you got enough you got it and settle down or it becomes a game. Some really like the game but even the Rothschilds got tired of it. They haven't done anything in many years. They simply don't have to. This is where Putin is but not on their side. He is Russian, you think he is against Russia ?

Anyway, I am hearing the deals will take about a year to get to fruition. Until then trade will be "clunky" for lack of a better word. My buddy is going to make enough to buy a small island by the time that is done. He trusts me but he said there is some shit he cannot tell me because of NDAs. An NDA means NDA, that means everybody and when he said that I said "Don't". He is a major source of information over there and I would never want him jeopardised. Even if he can trust me, he can't trust email and I leave mine signed in. I have physical control over my PCs so I can do that, but if shit happens... They actually have their own encryption at that firm.

Anyway, I thought you were in the UK. If so you can look forward to less human trash shitting on the sidewalks (like here) and raping your daughters. And they can't force you to WRECK your land with GMOs. (the GMOs are not the problem, it is the poisons they are designed to withstand - and we can't, and it is not just sprayed on, it is in the dirt and therefore INSIDE the food so it cannot be washed off) Ukraine is having that problem introduced to them, and the seeds bear barren fruit i.e. they cannot reproduce so you must buy seeds from that one company that has a patent on them. The land is wrecked for at least three years, more if it has been used for that much for many seasons. Isn't that one of the best rackets ? They got control over the FOOD. That is better than control over the gold. Sure the land will be good again in a few years, but how long can you wait to eat ?

This is REAL power.

We (in the know) all knew about the money game and the oil game, but the food game really can trump them both. People who starve to death do not pay anyone though, so they might back off at the last minute.

And the US ? - How fucked up is this. That glysophate or whatever in Roundup which is the poison they use on the immune GMO crops is an HERBICIDE, and sold as such. It is also a known carcinogen since before they even sold it.. Research linked it to cancer in lab rats and those data were bought off the market by Monsanto. This is PROVABLE but it will take several links and comprehensive reading so I am not doing it unless under specific request. So now there is a class action lawsuit in the US, but that means nothing. Anyone who gets cancer, they look for anything, now they are down to talcum powder causing it. Cancer is caused by inferior genes. eventually it will be "Did you use dihydrogen monoxide and get cancer ? Well we are suing god and you may be entitled..."

Entitled. Entitled to a fucking bullet. A Hydra-Shok, one of the deadliest bullets in the world and when I dip the in garlic juice even better. (causes blood poisoning) I asked on the net if I did it now would they still be good like in six month and got no answer... so I will wait until the day before the election because if the demobrats stay true to form, their shit will be much worse when Trump wins again. And he will. They made it so just like last time. That is why I will be riding shotgun with family after the election.

Sovereignty. Freedom.

Control our borders ? Control our speech ?

You got another thing coming, and the song about that comes from Britain. Judas Priest. The OLD wave of British heavy metal.

Stiff upper lip for about a year, I got somebody working on it.
 
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 10:54:23 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 23:33:19 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

N Ireland will probably go first, and with that
the UK will cease to exist.

Hint: it is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain
and Northern Ireland".

If the Scots and the N. Irish would prefer to leave, then I for one
would welcome that, and wish them all the best of luck for the future.

They will probably be followed by the Welsh, the people who live on Cornwall and West of England, the Midlands and the North.

The Home Counties are probably convinced that they can make millions by selling one another financial services, but even they may realise that you can't eat invoices before they starve to death.

Smaller, non-federalised states operating in peaceful economic
competition and non-coercive co-operation with each other are the way
of the future. In short, "reverse-globalism" if you will.

It's call anarcho-syndicalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism

Noam Chomsky and Naomi Klein think highly of it. It's the basis of the cooperative movement.

It's a bit unspecific about how higher-level cooperation might work, but then so is Cursitor Doom.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 9:18:44 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
In about 45 minutes from now, the UK will finally leave the EU. I'll
be raising a glass or two of bubbly to the British (and especially the
English and the Welsh) for having the fortitude to face down all the
stooges, the scare-mongers, the closet Federalists, the 5th
Columnists, the Commies and the rest of the 'enemy within' - both
inside parliament and out - who have thrown every obstacle they could
think of in an attempt to thwart and usurp the democratic Will of the
people.

The people got lied to about the consequences of Brexit. The English are a little more susceptible to the lies of upper class twits that the rest of the UK, so that's where "the will of the people" got furthest out of touch with reality, enough to give a narrow winning margin in the Brexit referendum.

They'd previously succeeded in Greece, they'd succeeded in
Italy, they'd succeeded in Spain - but they didn't succeed in Britain!

So the Brits - actually the English - are just that little bit more gullible.

> Cheers, Brits! :-D

You've won a Darwin Award. Try and get yourselves out of the gene pool as tidily as possible, deleting as few as possible of your less gullible brethren in the process.

"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill

Winston Churchill didn't have any clear idea of what "race" might represent.. England has never been genetically isolated, but we had to sequence quite a few human genomes before it became clear exactly how far the English are from being an "island race".

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 10:24:30 AM UTC+11, bule...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> I take it that you are not pleased with the people getting what they wanted

Some of the people got what they thought that they wanted.

If the Advertising Standards Authority had been able to prosecute the pro-
Brexit propaganda for misleading claims, every last pro-Brexit politician would have been convicted of fraud.

They will probably end up dangling from lamp-posts when the economic consequences of Brexit start biting, but that's some way off, and a lot of other people will suffer unnecessary hardship before this happens.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 10:27:45 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 22:18:39 +0000, Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> The Brits were smart to keep their own currency.

Smartness didn't come into it. They were far too far up themselves to see the advantages of adopting the euro, or to take full advantage of the opportunities that membership of the EU offered - Thatcher has a lot to answer for there, but she, like Reagan was developing Alzheimer's before she left office.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 

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