Old style filament lamps?

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Terry Pinnell

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(Re-posted from the lower traffic sci.electronics.misc group.)

Does anyone know where I can buy 'normal' filament lamp bulbs in the UK
please? I just cannot get on with the new economy type. My remaining stock
of 60W and 100W is dwindling rapidly.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
 
"Terry Pinnell"

Does anyone know where I can buy 'normal' filament lamp bulbs in the UK
please? I just cannot get on with the new economy type. My remaining stock
of 60W and 100W is dwindling rapidly.
Click to expand...

** AFAIK- even if you came across a stock it is illegal now for anyone to
sell them to you.

Have a look for the high efficiency halogen bulbs that are made in the same
style as regular BC and ES 40 watt and 60 watt bulbs. Rated at 2000 hours
and bit whiter light but rather more expensive.

Legally on sale all over Australia, but not sure about the UK.



...... Phil
 
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypingm@DELETEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:v22ir6tkftirp75f6ipptnquot1c2p12h1@4ax.com...
(Re-posted from the lower traffic sci.electronics.misc group.)

Does anyone know where I can buy 'normal' filament lamp bulbs in the UK
please? I just cannot get on with the new economy type. My remaining stock
of 60W and 100W is dwindling rapidly.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
Click to expand...
You, and many others, including this +1, I'm afraid, Terry ... :-(

I just looked on my favourite lamp buying site in the UK, and they don't
appear to do any standard lightbulbs except ecobollox types at all now. Even
the halogen ones that Phil mentions, now don't seem to be available. I have
one of those in my hallway, and it is superb. They are basically a halogen
capsule bulb, inside a 'standard' lightbulb. The one I have is a pearl type,
so nice even light, but I seem to recall someone saying that even those had
been made available only in a clear glass outer shell, and now it looks like
that has gone as well. It really pisses me off actually, that yet another
mature technology that gave good even and diffuse light - the whole reason
that that pearlisation of the envelope was introduced in the first place -
has now been forcibly replaced with an ecobollox product that doesn't hold a
candle (pun intended) to what it's replacing. I wouldn't mind if the end
justified the means. I read the other day that it has been calculated that
in the UK, if every single conventional lightbulb was changed for an
ecobollox type, all it would save is the output from one small power
station.

Arfa
 
Terry Pinnell <terrypingm@DELETEgmail.com> wrote:

(Re-posted from the lower traffic sci.electronics.misc group.)

Does anyone know where I can buy 'normal' filament lamp bulbs in the UK
please? I just cannot get on with the new economy type. My remaining stock
of 60W and 100W is dwindling rapidly.
Click to expand...
http://www.wrightshardware.co.uk/Eaccess.htm

--
~ Adrian Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk
 
"Adrian Tuddenham"

http://www.wrightshardware.co.uk/Eaccess.htm
Click to expand...

** Have you rung the phone number?

Does ma or pa Wright answer ??

Looks like a ghost web site to me.



..... Phil
 
I just looked on my favourite lamp buying site in the UK, and they don't
appear to do any standard lightbulbs except ecobollox types at all now.
Even
the halogen ones that Phil mentions, now don't seem to be available. I
have
one of those in my hallway, and it is superb. They are basically a halogen
capsule bulb, inside a 'standard' lightbulb. The one I have is a pearl
type,
so nice even light, but I seem to recall someone saying that even those
had
been made available only in a clear glass outer shell, and now it looks
like
that has gone as well. It really pisses me off actually, that yet another
mature technology that gave good even and diffuse light - the whole reason
that that pearlisation of the envelope was introduced in the first place -
has now been forcibly replaced with an ecobollox product that doesn't hold
a
candle (pun intended) to what it's replacing. I wouldn't mind if the end
justified the means. I read the other day that it has been calculated that
in the UK, if every single conventional lightbulb was changed for an
ecobollox type, all it would save is the output from one small power
station.
Click to expand...
We're been through this before.

British CFLs must be of very poor quality, because you can get excellent
ones in the US. They come instantly -- faster than incandescent -- and have
good color balance.

I've replaced all but the miniature "decorative" lamps in my condo with
CFLs. I would never go back to incandescent.

I'm writing this in my den. The light is from a 100W-equivalent Home Depot
CFL in an IKEA shade. The /only/ way you can tell it's not incandescent is
by looking under the shade.

The bathroom has a 6-bulb "bar". The middle bulbs have been loosened so they
won't light, and the end bulbs replaced with CFLs. Yeah, it looks a bit
funny. Big deal.
 
In article <ipbnl5$if2$1@dont-email.me>,
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

British CFLs must be of very poor quality, because you can get excellent
ones in the US. They come instantly -- faster than incandescent -- and have
good color balance.
Click to expand...
You buy CFLs that come on faster than an incandescent? Would like to see
a pic of the packaging so I know what to look for at HD. I'm just a tad
skeptical. Do you know the color temp?
 
"Smitty Two" <prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:prestwhich-E77428.05553828042011@news.eternal-september.org...
In article <ipbnl5$if2$1@dont-email.me>,
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

British CFLs must be of very poor quality, because you can get
excellent ones in the US. They come instantly -- faster than
incandescent -- and have good color balance.

You buy CFLs that come on faster than an incandescent? Would
like to see a pic of the packaging so I know what to look for at HD.
I'm just a tad skeptical. Do you know the color temp?
Click to expand...
I've been using Home Depot's store brand -- EcoSmart -- for several years.
Consumer Reports recently gave them a very high rating.

No color temp or rendering quality is specified. But the balance is on the
warm side. It's acceptable (in my opinion) for non-critical color
photography.
 
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote in message
news:slrnirisln.rrp.gsm@cable.mendelson.com...

BTW, I've been using them since the late 1990's and CFLs keep
getting cheaper, more efficient and on the whole better. They are
not perfect, and we still use incandescent bulbs in some places,
but 99% of the light in my home is from either CFLs or the old-
fashioned long ones.
Click to expand...
It's amazing that, despite their generally poor color rendering, tubular FLs
have long been tolerated in kitchens and workspaces.
 
'Terry Pinnell[_3_ Wrote:
(Re-posted from the lower traffic sci.electronics.misc
group.)

Does anyone know where I can buy 'normal' filament lamp bulbs in the UK
please? I just cannot get on with the new economy type. My remaining
stock
of 60W and 100W is dwindling rapidly.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
Click to expand...
Do you mean that your light fittings cannot accomodate the larger
compact fluorescent bulbs?

If so, there are halogen bulbs available in the same form factor as the
old incandescent filament bulbs. These are classed as lower energy than
a standard incandescent and can be purchased from most supermarkets and
DIY stores. See the link below:

http://tinyurl.com/68nocgh

They give you full brightness at switch on unlike compact fluorescents
that take time to warm-up.




--
M.Joshi
 
William Sommerwerck wrote:
No color temp or rendering quality is specified. But the balance is on the
warm side. It's acceptable (in my opinion) for non-critical color
photography.
Click to expand...
Similar ones are available here in Israel. I assume since we use the same
electrical system as the UK, they are available there too.

There are also cheap junk, but I avoid them.

BTW, I've been using them since the late 1990's and CFLs keep getting cheaper,
more efficient and on the whole better. They are not perfect, and we still use
incandescent bulbs in some places, but 99% of the light in my home is from
either CFLs or the old fashioned long ones.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.
 
In article <ipbt0o$5oc$1@dont-email.me>,
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote in message
news:slrnirisln.rrp.gsm@cable.mendelson.com...

BTW, I've been using them since the late 1990's and CFLs keep
getting cheaper, more efficient and on the whole better. They are
not perfect, and we still use incandescent bulbs in some places,
but 99% of the light in my home is from either CFLs or the old-
fashioned long ones.

It's amazing that, despite their generally poor color rendering, tubular FLs
have long been tolerated in kitchens and workspaces.
Click to expand...
Not amazing to me. In commercial and industrial (IOW business)
applications, it's all about economy. It's a holdover from the days of
candlelit rooms filled with accountants. The "grumble factor" determined
how many candles were allowed: just enough to minimize but not totally
eliminate employee grumbling.
 
On Apr 28, 5:47 am, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgee...@comcast.net>
wrote:
I just looked on my favourite lamp buying site in the UK, and they don't
appear to do any standard lightbulbs except ecobollox types at all now.
Even
the halogen ones that Phil mentions, now don't seem to be available. I
have
one of those in my hallway, and it is superb. They are basically a halogen
capsule bulb, inside a 'standard' lightbulb. The one I have is a pearl
type,
so nice even light, but I seem to recall someone saying that even those
had
been made available only in a clear glass outer shell, and now it looks
like
that has gone as well. It really pisses me off actually, that yet another
mature technology that gave good even and diffuse light - the whole reason
that that pearlisation of the envelope was introduced in the first place -
has now been forcibly replaced with an ecobollox product that doesn't hold
a
candle (pun intended) to what it's replacing. I wouldn't mind if the end
justified the means. I read the other day that it has been calculated that
in the UK, if every single conventional lightbulb was changed for an
ecobollox type, all it would save is the output from one small power
station.

We're been through this before.

British CFLs must be of very poor quality, because you can get excellent
ones in the US. They come instantly -- faster than incandescent -- and have
good color balance.
Click to expand...
None that I can buy. In my double fixtures I have one incandescent and
one CFL. Otherwise I have to wait every time I turn on a light.

Further, none of the bulbs I can buy are rated to work outdoors. I put
one in my porchlight anyway, and it wore out in less time than an
incandescent.
 
William Sommerwerck wrote:

It's amazing that, despite their generally poor color rendering, tubular FLs
have long been tolerated in kitchens and workspaces.
Click to expand...
I can't quantify it, but I have a much brighter tubular floursecent lamp
over my head because of the color problems. It seems I need a lot more
light to read with them than an incadescent one.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.
 
Phil Allison <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote:

"Adrian Tuddenham"

http://www.wrightshardware.co.uk/Eaccess.htm


** Have you rung the phone number?

Does ma or pa Wright answer ??
Click to expand...
Thursday is early closing day in Bath; it's when he goes to the
wholesalers to stock up. Try again tomorrow.

Looks like a ghost web site to me.
Click to expand...
Nope - just under delayed construction. I'm the webmaster and I'm
waiting for more info.



--
~ Adrian Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk
 
adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

Terry Pinnell <terrypingm@DELETEgmail.com> wrote:

(Re-posted from the lower traffic sci.electronics.misc group.)

Does anyone know where I can buy 'normal' filament lamp bulbs in the UK
please? I just cannot get on with the new economy type. My remaining stock
of 60W and 100W is dwindling rapidly.

http://www.wrightshardware.co.uk/Eaccess.htm
Click to expand...
Thanks Adrian. Phoned at 7pm but I see they're closed all day Thursdays
anyway. I'll try again on Saturday after the Wedding. Doesn't look like
they have any online ordering but presumably they will despatch? Bath's a
little too far to justify the trip!

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
 
Terry Pinnell <terrypingm@DELETEgmail.com> wrote:

adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

Terry Pinnell <terrypingm@DELETEgmail.com> wrote:

(Re-posted from the lower traffic sci.electronics.misc group.)

Does anyone know where I can buy 'normal' filament lamp bulbs in the UK
please? I just cannot get on with the new economy type. My remaining stock
of 60W and 100W is dwindling rapidly.

http://www.wrightshardware.co.uk/Eaccess.htm

Thanks Adrian. Phoned at 7pm but I see they're closed all day Thursdays
anyway. I'll try again on Saturday after the Wedding. Doesn't look like
they have any online ordering but presumably they will despatch? Bath's a
little too far to justify the trip!
Click to expand...
He told me he intends to open the shop tomorrow (Friday).

I warned him that, if he had a website, people would expect him to do
mail order, but I don't know if he is ready for it yet.

--
~ Adrian Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk
 
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:19:10 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:

"Terry Pinnell"

Does anyone know where I can buy 'normal' filament lamp bulbs in the UK
please? I just cannot get on with the new economy type. My remaining
stock of 60W and 100W is dwindling rapidly.


** AFAIK- even if you came across a stock it is illegal now for anyone
to
sell them to you.

Have a look for the high efficiency halogen bulbs that are made in the
same style as regular BC and ES 40 watt and 60 watt bulbs. Rated at
2000 hours and bit whiter light but rather more expensive.

Legally on sale all over Australia, but not sure about the UK.
Click to expand...
Who is going to arrest you for selling incandescent bulbs? The bulb
police?



--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse
 
On Apr 28, 11:59 am, Meat Plow <mhywa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:19:10 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:
"Terry Pinnell"

Does anyone know where I can buy 'normal' filament lamp bulbs in the UK
please? I just cannot get on with the new economy type. My remaining
stock of 60W and 100W is dwindling rapidly.

 ** AFAIK-  even if you came across a stock it is illegal now for anyone
 to
sell them to you.

Have a look for the high efficiency halogen bulbs that are made in the
same style as regular BC and ES 40 watt and 60 watt bulbs.  Rated at
2000 hours and bit whiter light but rather more expensive.

Legally on sale all over Australia,  but not sure about the UK.

Who is going to arrest you for selling incandescent bulbs? The bulb
police?
Click to expand...
I remember when Detroiters would cross into Canada to buy 5 gallon
flush toilets. Good times.
 
They give you full brightness at switch on, unlike
compact fluorescents that take time to warm-up.
Click to expand...
Yes, but...

The better CFLs are quite bright at turn-on -- bright enough that you don't
feel you bought a defective lamp.
 
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