NY knew they didn't have enough ventilators for a pandemic a

[mkr5000]

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 8:59:58 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

Cuomo has been very vocal about his need for ventilators and PPE, asking others (presumably Pres Trump) to decide WHO will DIE because they don't have enough ventilators. Well, NY made the CONSCIOUS decision to NOT have sufficient ventilators for a pandemic. That decision was put in writing in a document called "VENTILATOR ALLOCATION GUIDELINES" released in 2015 (https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf). The particular section covering this issue is on page 35:

E. Stockpiling Ventilators

New York State pandemic planning includes careful consideration of the potential shortage of ventilators, based on the estimates discussed above. There is a federal government stockpile of ventilators, but its use is limited for any one locality; there are not enough ventilators to be distributed to meet demand if many regions need them at once. New York State has stockpiled 1,750 ventilators to help reduce ventilator need in the face of the moderate scenario; however, there are no current plans to buy enough ventilators for
the most severe model. The State’s current approach to stockpiling a limited number of ventilators balances the need to prepare for a potential pandemic against the need to maintain adequate funding for current and ongoing health care expenses. Furthermore, severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them. In the event of an overwhelming burden on the health care system, New York will not have sufficient ventilators to meet critical care needs despite its emergency stockpile. If the most severe forecast becomes a reality, New York State and the rest of the country will need to allocate ventilators and other scarce resources.

They KNEW that there weren't sufficient ventilators to handle a pandemic and ROLLED THE DICE that it would not happen. And, if it DID happen, well then TOO FUCKING BAD, PEOPLE WILL DIE!

He shifts gears every day. Yesterday's words are something he's NEVER held accountable for. The new hoax is how he described what were dealing with. I've hated the fucking jerk long before he was our reality show president.
He appeals to the simpletons who are now in the majority -- we've been living the dumbing down end product for quite some time now.

Media content has played the biggest role.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/2/2020 8:59 PM, Flyguy wrote:

Cuomo has been very vocal about his need for ventilators and PPE, asking others (presumably Pres Trump) to decide WHO will DIE because they don't have enough ventilators. Well, NY made the CONSCIOUS decision to NOT have sufficient ventilators for a pandemic. That decision was put in writing in a document called "VENTILATOR ALLOCATION GUIDELINES" released in 2015 (https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf). The particular section covering this issue is on page 35:

E. Stockpiling Ventilators

New York State pandemic planning includes careful consideration of the potential shortage of ventilators, based on the estimates discussed above. There is a federal government stockpile of ventilators, but its use is limited for any one locality; there are not enough ventilators to be distributed to meet demand if many regions need them at once. New York State has stockpiled 1,750 ventilators to help reduce ventilator need in the face of the moderate scenario; however, there are no current plans to buy enough ventilators for
the most severe model. The State’s current approach to stockpiling a limited number of ventilators balances the need to prepare for a potential pandemic against the need to maintain adequate funding for current and ongoing health care expenses. Furthermore, severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them. In the event of an overwhelming burden on the health care system, New York will not have sufficient ventilators to meet critical care needs despite its emergency stockpile. If the most severe forecast becomes a reality, New York State and the rest of the country will need to allocate ventilators and other scarce resources.

They KNEW that there weren't sufficient ventilators to handle a pandemic and ROLLED THE DICE that it would not happen. And, if it DID happen, well then TOO FUCKING BAD, PEOPLE WILL DIE!

Anyone ever notice that loons always type LIKE they're SHOUTING random
WORDS at you?

Reminds me of how my ex-girlfriend used to send me text message. she was
a loon, too. you TOLD me that you were JUST GOING OUT to a BAR and you
were at a STRIP CLUB

nah it's nothing like that it's an adult exotic interpretive dance
complex. upscale. not a "strip club."

 

[Flyguy]

On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:09:11 AM UTC-7, mkr5000 wrote:

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 8:59:58 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
Cuomo has been very vocal about his need for ventilators and PPE, asking others (presumably Pres Trump) to decide WHO will DIE because they don't have enough ventilators. Well, NY made the CONSCIOUS decision to NOT have sufficient ventilators for a pandemic. That decision was put in writing in a document called "VENTILATOR ALLOCATION GUIDELINES" released in 2015 (https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf). The particular section covering this issue is on page 35:

E. Stockpiling Ventilators

New York State pandemic planning includes careful consideration of the potential shortage of ventilators, based on the estimates discussed above. There is a federal government stockpile of ventilators, but its use is limited for any one locality; there are not enough ventilators to be distributed to meet demand if many regions need them at once. New York State has stockpiled 1,750 ventilators to help reduce ventilator need in the face of the moderate scenario; however, there are no current plans to buy enough ventilators for
the most severe model. The State’s current approach to stockpiling a limited number of ventilators balances the need to prepare for a potential pandemic against the need to maintain adequate funding for current and ongoing health care expenses. Furthermore, severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them. In the event of an overwhelming burden on the health care system, New York will not have sufficient ventilators to meet critical care needs despite its emergency stockpile. If the most severe forecast becomes a reality, New York State and the rest of the country will need to allocate ventilators and other scarce resources.

They KNEW that there weren't sufficient ventilators to handle a pandemic and ROLLED THE DICE that it would not happen. And, if it DID happen, well then TOO FUCKING BAD, PEOPLE WILL DIE!

He shifts gears every day. Yesterday's words are something he's NEVER held accountable for. The new hoax is how he described what were dealing with. I've hated the fucking jerk long before he was our reality show president.
He appeals to the simpletons who are now in the majority -- we've been living the dumbing down end product for quite some time now.

Media content has played the biggest role.

LOL! Hello, who's your hero, Sleepy "Early Onset Alzheimer's" Joe? Now, couldn't a superior intelligence being such as yourself come up with a more impressive insult than "fucking jerk?" Only a simpleton would say that...

 

[Flyguy]

On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 12:17:30 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:

On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 9:28:41 AM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 8:59:58 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
Cuomo has been very vocal about his need for ventilators and PPE, asking others (presumably Pres Trump) to decide WHO will DIE because they don't have enough ventilators. Well, NY made the CONSCIOUS decision to NOT have sufficient ventilators for a pandemic. That decision was put in writing in a document called "VENTILATOR ALLOCATION GUIDELINES" released in 2015 (https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf). The particular section covering this issue is on page 35:

E. Stockpiling Ventilators

New York State pandemic planning includes careful consideration of the potential shortage of ventilators, based on the estimates discussed above.. There is a federal government stockpile of ventilators, but its use is limited for any one locality; there are not enough ventilators to be distributed to meet demand if many regions need them at once. New York State has stockpiled 1,750 ventilators to help reduce ventilator need in the face of the moderate scenario; however, there are no current plans to buy enough ventilators for
the most severe model. The State’s current approach to stockpiling a limited number of ventilators balances the need to prepare for a potential pandemic against the need to maintain adequate funding for current and ongoing health care expenses. Furthermore, severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them. In the event of an overwhelming burden on the health care system, New York will not have sufficient ventilators to meet critical care needs despite its emergency stockpile. If the most severe forecast becomes a reality, New York State and the rest of the country will need to allocate ventilators and other scarce resources.

They KNEW that there weren't sufficient ventilators to handle a pandemic and ROLLED THE DICE that it would not happen. And, if it DID happen, well then TOO FUCKING BAD, PEOPLE WILL DIE!

well, we could be buying masks right NOW from China but they won't import them (at least that's what I read). shit, they're all made in China -- even 3m makes them there. so what's that all about?
the whole Trump thing has been chaos from day one. the guy is a CON.

Yeah, he is. He's another Bernie Madoff. The Coronavirus is his Ponzi scheme falling apart. He thought he could bluff his way to the next election, but this catastrophe is being created by his bungling.

It is truly sad and that thousands will needlessly die makes it even sadder. Trump, the sad President.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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LOL! And exactly WHO is going to be Pres Trump's undoing, Sleepy Joe? Ricky, you've GOT TO BE JOKING - the man can't even find a camera in front of his nose!!!

 

[Flyguy]

On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 12:23:46 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:

On 4/3/2020 3:17 PM, Ricky C wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 9:28:41 AM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 8:59:58 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
Cuomo has been very vocal about his need for ventilators and PPE, asking others (presumably Pres Trump) to decide WHO will DIE because they don't have enough ventilators. Well, NY made the CONSCIOUS decision to NOT have sufficient ventilators for a pandemic. That decision was put in writing in a document called "VENTILATOR ALLOCATION GUIDELINES" released in 2015 (https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf). The particular section covering this issue is on page 35:

E. Stockpiling Ventilators

New York State pandemic planning includes careful consideration of the potential shortage of ventilators, based on the estimates discussed above.. There is a federal government stockpile of ventilators, but its use is limited for any one locality; there are not enough ventilators to be distributed to meet demand if many regions need them at once. New York State has stockpiled 1,750 ventilators to help reduce ventilator need in the face of the moderate scenario; however, there are no current plans to buy enough ventilators for
the most severe model. The State’s current approach to stockpiling a limited number of ventilators balances the need to prepare for a potential pandemic against the need to maintain adequate funding for current and ongoing health care expenses. Furthermore, severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them. In the event of an overwhelming burden on the health care system, New York will not have sufficient ventilators to meet critical care needs despite its emergency stockpile. If the most severe forecast becomes a reality, New York State and the rest of the country will need to allocate ventilators and other scarce resources.

They KNEW that there weren't sufficient ventilators to handle a pandemic and ROLLED THE DICE that it would not happen. And, if it DID happen, well then TOO FUCKING BAD, PEOPLE WILL DIE!

well, we could be buying masks right NOW from China but they won't import them (at least that's what I read). shit, they're all made in China -- even 3m makes them there. so what's that all about?
the whole Trump thing has been chaos from day one. the guy is a CON.

Yeah, he is. He's another Bernie Madoff. The Coronavirus is his Ponzi scheme falling apart. He thought he could bluff his way to the next election, but this catastrophe is being created by his bungling.

It is truly sad and that thousands will needlessly die makes it even sadder. Trump, the sad President.


His "economic miracle" was supposed to come crashing down in 2025 but
the stilts got pulled early.

In a turn of irony he may end up being America's first socialist
president. Or second, depending on whom you ask.

Pres. Trump DID pull off the "economic miracle" - now he is being asked to pull off a medical miracle! And guess what: he's DOING IT!! It's fun watching you libtards rooting for DEATH.

 

[Ricky C]

On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 2:17:41 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 12:23:46 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/3/2020 3:17 PM, Ricky C wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 9:28:41 AM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 8:59:58 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
Cuomo has been very vocal about his need for ventilators and PPE, asking others (presumably Pres Trump) to decide WHO will DIE because they don't have enough ventilators. Well, NY made the CONSCIOUS decision to NOT have sufficient ventilators for a pandemic. That decision was put in writing in a document called "VENTILATOR ALLOCATION GUIDELINES" released in 2015 (https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf). The particular section covering this issue is on page 35:

E. Stockpiling Ventilators

New York State pandemic planning includes careful consideration of the potential shortage of ventilators, based on the estimates discussed above. There is a federal government stockpile of ventilators, but its use is limited for any one locality; there are not enough ventilators to be distributed to meet demand if many regions need them at once. New York State has stockpiled 1,750 ventilators to help reduce ventilator need in the face of the moderate scenario; however, there are no current plans to buy enough ventilators for
the most severe model. The State’s current approach to stockpiling a limited number of ventilators balances the need to prepare for a potential pandemic against the need to maintain adequate funding for current and ongoing health care expenses. Furthermore, severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them. In the event of an overwhelming burden on the health care system, New York will not have sufficient ventilators to meet critical care needs despite its emergency stockpile. If the most severe forecast becomes a reality, New York State and the rest of the country will need to allocate ventilators and other scarce resources.

They KNEW that there weren't sufficient ventilators to handle a pandemic and ROLLED THE DICE that it would not happen. And, if it DID happen, well then TOO FUCKING BAD, PEOPLE WILL DIE!

well, we could be buying masks right NOW from China but they won't import them (at least that's what I read). shit, they're all made in China -- even 3m makes them there. so what's that all about?
the whole Trump thing has been chaos from day one. the guy is a CON.

Yeah, he is. He's another Bernie Madoff. The Coronavirus is his Ponzi scheme falling apart. He thought he could bluff his way to the next election, but this catastrophe is being created by his bungling.

It is truly sad and that thousands will needlessly die makes it even sadder. Trump, the sad President.


His "economic miracle" was supposed to come crashing down in 2025 but
the stilts got pulled early.

In a turn of irony he may end up being America's first socialist
president. Or second, depending on whom you ask.

Pres. Trump DID pull off the "economic miracle" - now he is being asked to pull off a medical miracle! And guess what: he's DOING IT!! It's fun watching you libtards rooting for DEATH.

What economic miracle was that??? Trump's done virtually nothing for the economy other than not screw it up totally.

No one is asking Trump to pull off a miracle and he has had little to do with the result. He has managed to do one thing right, which was to limit air travel of some passengers from China. Yeah, his xenophobic tendencies worked in our favor for once. Too bad he didn't cut off all air travel with China as that was how most of the CV reached our shores.

I guess no matter what happens Trump supporters will see it as a win for Trump. It's not like Trump ever says what he will do. He fumbles around with he thinks something, but maybe not, we'll see how it goes. Meanwhile he has fucked up not only the US response to the coronavirus, but his dealings with North Korea are a joke. He has pretty well ruined relations with many other countries and his freaking tariffs have hurt the economy and even NOW he won't agree to remove them.

It's a total waste of time to tell you any of this because you won't believe anything you don't want to. But the other shoe will fall in November. Trump has run this country into the ground and run up the debt and now that we NEED to borrow heavily, we are already so far in debt it is insane.

This might actually be the denouement of American power and wealth. The big reset button is being pushed and China is going to be the new power when things return to operating. I bet you anything they come up a lot faster than the rest of us... especially US us.

Just like with the CEO of a company that makes a big mistake, OUT the door.

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2020-04-06, Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 12:23:46 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/3/2020 3:17 PM, Ricky C wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 9:28:41 AM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 8:59:58 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
Cuomo has been very vocal about his need for ventilators and PPE, asking others (presumably Pres Trump) to decide WHO will DIE because they don't have enough ventilators. Well, NY made the CONSCIOUS decision to NOT have sufficient ventilators for a pandemic. That decision was put in writing in a document called "VENTILATOR ALLOCATION GUIDELINES" released in 2015 (https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf). The particular section covering this issue is on page 35:

E. Stockpiling Ventilators

New York State pandemic planning includes careful consideration of the potential shortage of ventilators, based on the estimates discussed above. There is a federal government stockpile of ventilators, but its use is limited for any one locality; there are not enough ventilators to be distributed to meet demand if many regions need them at once. New York State has stockpiled 1,750 ventilators to help reduce ventilator need in the face of the moderate scenario; however, there are no current plans to buy enough ventilators for
the most severe model. The State’s current approach to stockpiling a limited number of ventilators balances the need to prepare for a potential pandemic against the need to maintain adequate funding for current and ongoing health care expenses. Furthermore, severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them. In the event of an overwhelming burden on the health care system, New York will not have sufficient ventilators to meet critical care needs despite its emergency stockpile. If the most severe forecast becomes a reality, New York State and the rest of the country will need to allocate ventilators and other scarce resources.

They KNEW that there weren't sufficient ventilators to handle a pandemic and ROLLED THE DICE that it would not happen. And, if it DID happen, well then TOO FUCKING BAD, PEOPLE WILL DIE!

well, we could be buying masks right NOW from China but they won't import them (at least that's what I read). shit, they're all made in China -- even 3m makes them there. so what's that all about?
the whole Trump thing has been chaos from day one. the guy is a CON.

Yeah, he is. He's another Bernie Madoff. The Coronavirus is his Ponzi scheme falling apart. He thought he could bluff his way to the next election, but this catastrophe is being created by his bungling.

It is truly sad and that thousands will needlessly die makes it even sadder. Trump, the sad President.


His "economic miracle" was supposed to come crashing down in 2025 but
the stilts got pulled early.

In a turn of irony he may end up being America's first socialist
president. Or second, depending on whom you ask.

Pres. Trump DID pull off the "economic miracle"

Yes he did, I remember his promise to turn the economy around.
It was growing when he was elected, now it's shrinking, I can't
think of any other campaign promise that he's kept.


--
Jasen.

 

[mkr5000]

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 8:59:58 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

Cuomo has been very vocal about his need for ventilators and PPE, asking others (presumably Pres Trump) to decide WHO will DIE because they don't have enough ventilators. Well, NY made the CONSCIOUS decision to NOT have sufficient ventilators for a pandemic. That decision was put in writing in a document called "VENTILATOR ALLOCATION GUIDELINES" released in 2015 (https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf). The particular section covering this issue is on page 35:

E. Stockpiling Ventilators

New York State pandemic planning includes careful consideration of the potential shortage of ventilators, based on the estimates discussed above. There is a federal government stockpile of ventilators, but its use is limited for any one locality; there are not enough ventilators to be distributed to meet demand if many regions need them at once. New York State has stockpiled 1,750 ventilators to help reduce ventilator need in the face of the moderate scenario; however, there are no current plans to buy enough ventilators for
the most severe model. The State’s current approach to stockpiling a limited number of ventilators balances the need to prepare for a potential pandemic against the need to maintain adequate funding for current and ongoing health care expenses. Furthermore, severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them. In the event of an overwhelming burden on the health care system, New York will not have sufficient ventilators to meet critical care needs despite its emergency stockpile. If the most severe forecast becomes a reality, New York State and the rest of the country will need to allocate ventilators and other scarce resources.

They KNEW that there weren't sufficient ventilators to handle a pandemic and ROLLED THE DICE that it would not happen. And, if it DID happen, well then TOO FUCKING BAD, PEOPLE WILL DIE!

Pickup trucks, lottery tickets, marlboros and budweiser. These people will always get in the way.

They're being played by Trump and they're too stupid to know it.

Ironic? -- yeah buddy

 

[Ricky C]

On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 5:09:11 PM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote:

Pickup trucks, lottery tickets, marlboros and budweiser. These people will always get in the way.

They're being played by Trump and they're too stupid to know it.

Ironic? -- yeah buddy

So you are saying this is part of a plan by Trump to reduce the number of intellectually challenged in the US be Darwinian selection? So in reality Trump's persona is totally fake and intended to attract the lowest IQ members of our society so they can be lulled into doing even more things that apply evolutionary pressure to eliminate their genes?

Yes, I always knew Trump was an evil genius... well, evil anyway.

--

Rick C.

-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Flyguy]

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:48:06 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:

On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 2:17:41 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 12:23:46 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/3/2020 3:17 PM, Ricky C wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 9:28:41 AM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 8:59:58 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
Cuomo has been very vocal about his need for ventilators and PPE, asking others (presumably Pres Trump) to decide WHO will DIE because they don't have enough ventilators. Well, NY made the CONSCIOUS decision to NOT have sufficient ventilators for a pandemic. That decision was put in writing in a document called "VENTILATOR ALLOCATION GUIDELINES" released in 2015 (https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf). The particular section covering this issue is on page 35:

E. Stockpiling Ventilators

New York State pandemic planning includes careful consideration of the potential shortage of ventilators, based on the estimates discussed above. There is a federal government stockpile of ventilators, but its use is limited for any one locality; there are not enough ventilators to be distributed to meet demand if many regions need them at once. New York State has stockpiled 1,750 ventilators to help reduce ventilator need in the face of the moderate scenario; however, there are no current plans to buy enough ventilators for
the most severe model. The State’s current approach to stockpiling a limited number of ventilators balances the need to prepare for a potential pandemic against the need to maintain adequate funding for current and ongoing health care expenses. Furthermore, severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them. In the event of an overwhelming burden on the health care system, New York will not have sufficient ventilators to meet critical care needs despite its emergency stockpile. If the most severe forecast becomes a reality, New York State and the rest of the country will need to allocate ventilators and other scarce resources.

They KNEW that there weren't sufficient ventilators to handle a pandemic and ROLLED THE DICE that it would not happen. And, if it DID happen, well then TOO FUCKING BAD, PEOPLE WILL DIE!

well, we could be buying masks right NOW from China but they won't import them (at least that's what I read). shit, they're all made in China -- even 3m makes them there. so what's that all about?
the whole Trump thing has been chaos from day one. the guy is a CON.

Yeah, he is. He's another Bernie Madoff. The Coronavirus is his Ponzi scheme falling apart. He thought he could bluff his way to the next election, but this catastrophe is being created by his bungling.

It is truly sad and that thousands will needlessly die makes it even sadder. Trump, the sad President.


His "economic miracle" was supposed to come crashing down in 2025 but
the stilts got pulled early.

In a turn of irony he may end up being America's first socialist
president. Or second, depending on whom you ask.

Pres. Trump DID pull off the "economic miracle" - now he is being asked to pull off a medical miracle! And guess what: he's DOING IT!! It's fun watching you libtards rooting for DEATH.

What economic miracle was that??? Trump's done virtually nothing for the economy other than not screw it up totally.

No one is asking Trump to pull off a miracle and he has had little to do with the result. He has managed to do one thing right, which was to limit air travel of some passengers from China. Yeah, his xenophobic tendencies worked in our favor for once. Too bad he didn't cut off all air travel with China as that was how most of the CV reached our shores.

I guess no matter what happens Trump supporters will see it as a win for Trump. It's not like Trump ever says what he will do. He fumbles around with he thinks something, but maybe not, we'll see how it goes. Meanwhile he has fucked up not only the US response to the coronavirus, but his dealings with North Korea are a joke. He has pretty well ruined relations with many other countries and his freaking tariffs have hurt the economy and even NOW he won't agree to remove them.

It's a total waste of time to tell you any of this because you won't believe anything you don't want to. But the other shoe will fall in November. Trump has run this country into the ground and run up the debt and now that we NEED to borrow heavily, we are already so far in debt it is insane.

This might actually be the denouement of American power and wealth. The big reset button is being pushed and China is going to be the new power when things return to operating. I bet you anything they come up a lot faster than the rest of us... especially US us.

Just like with the CEO of a company that makes a big mistake, OUT the door.

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Well, achieving the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years (pre-COVID shutdown, of course), and the lowest unemployment rate EVER for African-Americans (blacks).

The President, of course, has a GREAT DEAL to do with the results. The experts give him the data and their opinions, but he makes the final decision. He has put together an eminently qualified task force that is more than up to the task. He has also mobilized the military, both in material and manpower. He will make the decision as to when and how to bring the country out of lockdown.

Anybody that deals with Trump knows that, unlike Obama, he means what he says and WILL follow thru. Tariffs, of course, are only one tool at his disposal, but he WILL use them.

Pres Trump has been trying to warn you for years that China is our greatest threat. Maybe now you will believe him.

Indeed, the country WILL decide in November who is best fit to lead the country, and I have no doubt that it will be Trump. I will bet you a beer on it!

 

[mkr5000]

yeah and as he actually said, coronavirus is the new hoax.

looking forward also, to our beautiful easter weekend -- again, as he actually said. -- brilliant.

it would take too long to give more (daily) examples of the moronic statements the fucking idiot has gurgled.

 

mkr5000 <mikerbgr@gmail.com> wrote in
news:f5bc2c3a-d17e-4671-b080-c55a95c8258e@googlegroups.com:

yeah and as he actually said, coronavirus is the new hoax.

looking forward also, to our beautiful easter weekend -- again, as
he actually said. -- brilliant.

it would take too long to give more (daily) examples of the
moronic statements the fucking idiot has gurgled.

They still shoot lame horses, don't they? One would think that the
lame gurgling idiot would make the *immediate cull* list too.

Maybe one of his guard detail will have a family member pass, and
then we'll see a show! After all, they are truly the folks with your
life in their hands when you are within a hundred feet of them.
Maybe one of them could decide to "save the world from tyranny".
Seemingly anyone with any modicum of integrity would feel that he is a
danger. An immediate and present danger, to us all.

 

mkr5000 <mikerbgr@gmail.com> wrote in
news:f5bc2c3a-d17e-4671-b080-c55a95c8258e@googlegroups.com:

yeah and as he actually said, coronavirus is the new hoax.

looking forward also, to our beautiful easter weekend -- again, as
he actually said. -- brilliant.

it would take too long to give more (daily) examples of the
moronic statements the fucking idiot has gurgled.

Some bunch of idiots turned the dangerous dumbfuck on. Almost half
the nation.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyGxJLCG6qw>

 

[Flyguy]

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:34:48 AM UTC-7, mkr5000 wrote:

yeah and as he actually said, coronavirus is the new hoax.

looking forward also, to our beautiful easter weekend -- again, as he actually said. -- brilliant.

it would take too long to give more (daily) examples of the moronic statements the fucking idiot has gurgled.

No, Pres Trump NEVER said that. Anybody who believes that is, per Slow Man, a STUPD HALF-WIT.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 12:41:42 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:34:48 AM UTC-7, mkr5000 wrote:
yeah and as he actually said, coronavirus is the new hoax.

looking forward also, to our beautiful easter weekend -- again, as he actually said. -- brilliant.

it would take too long to give more (daily) examples of the moronic statements the fucking idiot has gurgled.

No, Pres Trump NEVER said that.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200320-from-hoax-to-pandemic-trump-s-shifting-rhetoric-on-coronavirus

Flyguy may have missed it, but Trump does seem to have said something very like it on the 28th February 2020.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Ricky C]

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:41:42 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:34:48 AM UTC-7, mkr5000 wrote:
yeah and as he actually said, coronavirus is the new hoax.

looking forward also, to our beautiful easter weekend -- again, as he actually said. -- brilliant.

it would take too long to give more (daily) examples of the moronic statements the fucking idiot has gurgled.

No, Pres Trump NEVER said that. Anybody who believes that is, per Slow Man, a STUPD HALF-WIT.

Fli is actually right about the hoax thing. If you pay careful attention to the exact words Trump used, he didn't exactly say COVID-19 is a hoax, he said the Democrats... well he said the virus... well, he babbled in his usual part sentences saying "this is their new hoax". One would assume "their" refers to the Democrats, but it is not clear if "this" refers to the virus or what. Later the White House clarified saying he simply meant to disparage the Democrats and not the virus. He has great respect for the coronavirus, it's a really great virus. The virus is doing a wonderful job of being a virus.

But everything else mkr said is spot on. But does Trump surprise anymore? He has done about everything possible to show he is an idiot and incompetent and caring more about his reelection than literally anything else including the well being of the populace.

The thing is his popularity received a bump from his bungling response to the disaster. I expect that will fade as things continue to get worse both medically and economically. But imagine the tremendous boost he would have received if he had done a proper job and organized the feds to properly support the states and by his own actions has galvanized the nation to fight this virus from day one, keeping our casualties much lower than the up to 250,000 deaths Trump is projecting. That would have put him over the top and assured his reelection.

Now instead of setting an example, wearing a mask and encouraging people to stay at home instead of filling churches on Sunday, he is helping a resurgence of the infection rate just as it was starting to level off. A week from now there will be a bump in the new infection rate lasting about a week. You can bet money on it.

This is sort of Presidential actions that sadden me. I was hoping to get out from under his four years without much harm being done.

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Rick C.

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[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 3:46:27 PM UTC+10, Ricky C wrote:

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:41:42 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:34:48 AM UTC-7, mkr5000 wrote:
yeah and as he actually said, coronavirus is the new hoax.

looking forward also, to our beautiful easter weekend -- again, as he actually said. -- brilliant.

it would take too long to give more (daily) examples of the moronic statements the fucking idiot has gurgled.

No, Pres Trump NEVER said that. Anybody who believes that is, per Slow Man, a STUPD HALF-WIT.

Fli is actually right about the hoax thing. If you pay careful attention to the exact words Trump used, he didn't exactly say COVID-19 is a hoax, he said the Democrats... well he said the virus... well, he babbled in his usual part sentences saying "this is their new hoax". One would assume "their" refers to the Democrats, but it is not clear if "this" refers to the virus or what. Later the White House clarified saying he simply meant to disparage the Democrats and not the virus. He has great respect for the coronavirus, it's a really great virus. The virus is doing a wonderful job of being a virus.

The line quoted in the article I cited was

"Now, the Democrats are politicising the coronavirus… this is their new hoax."

That is, the Democrats were hoaxing the public by taking the corona virus seriously. The incidental implication is that the alarm about Covid-19 was a hoax.

The fact that he was being rude about the Democrats doesn't let him off the hook of not taking the incipient epidemic as seriously as he should have done.

But everything else mkr said is spot on. But does Trump surprise anymore? He has done about everything possible to show he is an idiot and incompetent and caring more about his reelection than literally anything else including the well being of the populace.

The thing is his popularity received a bump from his bungling response to the disaster.

There is no such thing as bad publicity. The Covid-19 crisis has given Trump a lot of exposure, and he's done his best to hog as much of the air-time as he can.

It may take a while for the American public to realise just how badly their government has performed, but as the bodies build up, the survivors may get the message.

I expect that will fade as things continue to get worse both medically and economically. But imagine the tremendous boost he would have received if he had done a proper job and organized the feds to properly support the states and by his own actions has galvanized the nation to fight this virus from day one, keeping our casualties much lower than the up to 250,000 deaths Trump is projecting. That would have put him over the top and assured his reelection.

Now instead of setting an example, wearing a mask and encouraging people to stay at home instead of filling churches on Sunday, he is helping a resurgence of the infection rate just as it was starting to level off.

The new case per day might have been leveling off, but that's a lot of new cases every day. What you want is fewer infected people, not a steady stream of new ones.

A week from now there will be a bump in the new infection rate lasting about a week. You can bet money on it.

This is sort of Presidential actions that sadden me. I was hoping to get out from under his four years without much harm being done.

Feckless optimism.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 2:55:58 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 3:46:27 PM UTC+10, Ricky C wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:41:42 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:34:48 AM UTC-7, mkr5000 wrote:
yeah and as he actually said, coronavirus is the new hoax.

looking forward also, to our beautiful easter weekend -- again, as he actually said. -- brilliant.

it would take too long to give more (daily) examples of the moronic statements the fucking idiot has gurgled.

No, Pres Trump NEVER said that. Anybody who believes that is, per Slow Man, a STUPD HALF-WIT.

Fli is actually right about the hoax thing. If you pay careful attention to the exact words Trump used, he didn't exactly say COVID-19 is a hoax, he said the Democrats... well he said the virus... well, he babbled in his usual part sentences saying "this is their new hoax". One would assume "their" refers to the Democrats, but it is not clear if "this" refers to the virus or what. Later the White House clarified saying he simply meant to disparage the Democrats and not the virus. He has great respect for the coronavirus, it's a really great virus. The virus is doing a wonderful job of being a virus.

The line quoted in the article I cited was

"Now, the Democrats are politicising the coronavirus… this is their new hoax."

That is, the Democrats were hoaxing the public by taking the corona virus seriously. The incidental implication is that the alarm about Covid-19 was a hoax.

The fact that he was being rude about the Democrats doesn't let him off the hook of not taking the incipient epidemic as seriously as he should have done.

But everything else mkr said is spot on. But does Trump surprise anymore? He has done about everything possible to show he is an idiot and incompetent and caring more about his reelection than literally anything else including the well being of the populace.

The thing is his popularity received a bump from his bungling response to the disaster.

There is no such thing as bad publicity. The Covid-19 crisis has given Trump a lot of exposure, and he's done his best to hog as much of the air-time as he can.

It may take a while for the American public to realise just how badly their government has performed, but as the bodies build up, the survivors may get the message.

I expect that will fade as things continue to get worse both medically and economically. But imagine the tremendous boost he would have received if he had done a proper job and organized the feds to properly support the states and by his own actions has galvanized the nation to fight this virus from day one, keeping our casualties much lower than the up to 250,000 deaths Trump is projecting. That would have put him over the top and assured his reelection.

Now instead of setting an example, wearing a mask and encouraging people to stay at home instead of filling churches on Sunday, he is helping a resurgence of the infection rate just as it was starting to level off.

The new case per day might have been leveling off, but that's a lot of new cases every day. What you want is fewer infected people, not a steady stream of new ones.

A week from now there will be a bump in the new infection rate lasting about a week. You can bet money on it.

This is sort of Presidential actions that sadden me. I was hoping to get out from under his four years without much harm being done.

Feckless optimism.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

The Dims needed to take COVID-19 seriously in Jan, not March. When Pres Trump took it seriously then, Sleepy Joe called him "xenophobic" and "hysterical." Now, he says that Pres. Trump did the "right thing!"

 

[Flyguy]

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 7:54:36 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 12:41:42 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:34:48 AM UTC-7, mkr5000 wrote:
yeah and as he actually said, coronavirus is the new hoax.

looking forward also, to our beautiful easter weekend -- again, as he actually said. -- brilliant.

it would take too long to give more (daily) examples of the moronic statements the fucking idiot has gurgled.

No, Pres Trump NEVER said that.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200320-from-hoax-to-pandemic-trump-s-shifting-rhetoric-on-coronavirus

Flyguy may have missed it, but Trump does seem to have said something very like it on the 28th February 2020.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Nope, NEVER said it, SLOW MAN.

 

[Ricky C]

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 2:22:00 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 2:55:58 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 3:46:27 PM UTC+10, Ricky C wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:41:42 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:34:48 AM UTC-7, mkr5000 wrote:
yeah and as he actually said, coronavirus is the new hoax.

looking forward also, to our beautiful easter weekend -- again, as he actually said. -- brilliant.

it would take too long to give more (daily) examples of the moronic statements the fucking idiot has gurgled.

No, Pres Trump NEVER said that. Anybody who believes that is, per Slow Man, a STUPD HALF-WIT.

Fli is actually right about the hoax thing. If you pay careful attention to the exact words Trump used, he didn't exactly say COVID-19 is a hoax, he said the Democrats... well he said the virus... well, he babbled in his usual part sentences saying "this is their new hoax". One would assume "their" refers to the Democrats, but it is not clear if "this" refers to the virus or what. Later the White House clarified saying he simply meant to disparage the Democrats and not the virus. He has great respect for the coronavirus, it's a really great virus. The virus is doing a wonderful job of being a virus.

The line quoted in the article I cited was

"Now, the Democrats are politicising the coronavirus… this is their new hoax."

That is, the Democrats were hoaxing the public by taking the corona virus seriously. The incidental implication is that the alarm about Covid-19 was a hoax.

The fact that he was being rude about the Democrats doesn't let him off the hook of not taking the incipient epidemic as seriously as he should have done.

But everything else mkr said is spot on. But does Trump surprise anymore? He has done about everything possible to show he is an idiot and incompetent and caring more about his reelection than literally anything else including the well being of the populace.

The thing is his popularity received a bump from his bungling response to the disaster.

There is no such thing as bad publicity. The Covid-19 crisis has given Trump a lot of exposure, and he's done his best to hog as much of the air-time as he can.

It may take a while for the American public to realise just how badly their government has performed, but as the bodies build up, the survivors may get the message.

I expect that will fade as things continue to get worse both medically and economically. But imagine the tremendous boost he would have received if he had done a proper job and organized the feds to properly support the states and by his own actions has galvanized the nation to fight this virus from day one, keeping our casualties much lower than the up to 250,000 deaths Trump is projecting. That would have put him over the top and assured his reelection.

Now instead of setting an example, wearing a mask and encouraging people to stay at home instead of filling churches on Sunday, he is helping a resurgence of the infection rate just as it was starting to level off.

The new case per day might have been leveling off, but that's a lot of new cases every day. What you want is fewer infected people, not a steady stream of new ones.

A week from now there will be a bump in the new infection rate lasting about a week. You can bet money on it.

This is sort of Presidential actions that sadden me. I was hoping to get out from under his four years without much harm being done.

Feckless optimism.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

The Dims needed to take COVID-19 seriously in Jan, not March. When Pres Trump took it seriously then, Sleepy Joe called him "xenophobic" and "hysterical." Now, he says that Pres. Trump did the "right thing!"

Do you just make up stuff off the top of your head or do you work on it a while to give it that just right, theater of the absurd look and feel?

It is true that Trump's response was xenophobic. That was his motivation for limiting the restrictions to Chinese and not all travelers. Even so, the enemy had already crossed the rubicon and was infecting the US.

Since the end of the year when the Chinese announced they had a virus sweeping Wuhan, 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China. 40,000 of those were after Trumps travel restrictions.

Add to that the huge numbers of people arriving from other parts of the world with the infection which were not restricted until much later.

So just how much difference do you think the restrictions really made? Clearly the problem is not that travel restrictions were the solution. Action to slow the transmission of infections that were already here is what has always been needed and is what we have done so poorly.

Consider that if the travel restrictions were effective, why do we have so many more infected and dead than any other country in the world? Why has our problem with the virus grown so much more rapidly?

It must be the fault of the Democrats somehow. It must be that they were crying out early that the virus was a problem we needed to address. So much so that by the time Trump actually joined them in say this was a real fucking problem the public thought he was the boy who cried "WOLF".

Yeah, that's the ticket!

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Rick C.

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