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F Murtz
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Sylvia Else wrote:
fancy.
bit of thin mdf and have it suck in instead of out.Or whichever way you
fancy.
F
F Murtz
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kreed wrote:
K
kreed
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On Feb 11, 9:20 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
rotated 180 degrees, or do you want the
air intake without the motor in the way ?
Might sound silly, but cant the entire fan head (including motor) be
rotated 180 degrees, or do you want the
air intake without the motor in the way ?
T
T i m
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:18:39 +1100, Sylvia Else
<sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote:
polythene sheet and gaffa tape be out of the question (to 'join' the
fan to the window opening)?
We have a split unit aircon unit in the (unoccupied) middle bedroom
but with all the bedroom doors open and the landing separated from the
rest of the house via a temporary 'curtain of polythene sheet tacked
to a baton and attached to the ceiling (by just 2 screws) works very
well at cooling all the bedrooms.
And no one here GsAF what it looked like, just that it worked ...
<hmmm, 18 Deg C>
Well, for the 2 weeks we call 'summer' here in the UK anyway. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
<sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote:
If we are talking temporary would some the use of some thickish
polythene sheet and gaffa tape be out of the question (to 'join' the
fan to the window opening)?
We have a split unit aircon unit in the (unoccupied) middle bedroom
but with all the bedroom doors open and the landing separated from the
rest of the house via a temporary 'curtain of polythene sheet tacked
to a baton and attached to the ceiling (by just 2 screws) works very
well at cooling all the bedrooms.
And no one here GsAF what it looked like, just that it worked ...
<hmmm, 18 Deg C>
Well, for the 2 weeks we call 'summer' here in the UK anyway. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
S
Sylvia Else
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On 12/02/2011 12:38 AM, kreed wrote:
creating a flow from the bottom to the top with little penetration into
the room. Something to experiment with, I suppose.
My thinking is to take two box fans, remove their feet, and attach them
to a wooden frame that can be slotted into the groves normally used by
the horizontally sliding window. It would make something that could be
quickly attached as needed, and equally easily removed when not. Any
spare window space would be blocked off, so that air pumped in would
push other air out of the house wherever it could escape.
BTW, I've been using a box fan to force ventilate an underhouse store
room where he had something of a drain overflow. After running
continously for a month, its bearings are stuffed. Me thinks they're not
designed for that level of use.
Sylvia.
Perhaps, though one would have to be concerned that one just ended up
creating a flow from the bottom to the top with little penetration into
the room. Something to experiment with, I suppose.
My thinking is to take two box fans, remove their feet, and attach them
to a wooden frame that can be slotted into the groves normally used by
the horizontally sliding window. It would make something that could be
quickly attached as needed, and equally easily removed when not. Any
spare window space would be blocked off, so that air pumped in would
push other air out of the house wherever it could escape.
BTW, I've been using a box fan to force ventilate an underhouse store
room where he had something of a drain overflow. After running
continously for a month, its bearings are stuffed. Me thinks they're not
designed for that level of use.
Sylvia.
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F Murtz
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kreed wrote:
Dont know why I bother ,I new I was invisible.
Dont know why I bother ,I new I was invisible.
K
kreed
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On Feb 11, 11:18 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
of the window on the inside, and used it that way. It works well, but
I agree that
if you could mount it in the open window directly it would work a lot
better. Currently
it sits about 25cm inside of the window opening due to the stand.
The box fan would probably be a better idea. Could put a shelf or
something under
the window, and sit it on there.
Another (depending on the amount of air these things move, their
appearance,
and the fact that the shaded pole motor and blade is exposed on the
back)
could be use bathroom type exhaust fan(s) mounted through a piece of
plywood
that sits in the open section of the window. ?
If the window has a good height,
you might be able to try one at the top blowing out the hot air and
one at the bottom blowing in cool ?
We had the same problem, I put a Woolies pedestal fan right in front
of the window on the inside, and used it that way. It works well, but
I agree that
if you could mount it in the open window directly it would work a lot
better. Currently
it sits about 25cm inside of the window opening due to the stand.
The box fan would probably be a better idea. Could put a shelf or
something under
the window, and sit it on there.
Another (depending on the amount of air these things move, their
appearance,
and the fact that the shaded pole motor and blade is exposed on the
back)
could be use bathroom type exhaust fan(s) mounted through a piece of
plywood
that sits in the open section of the window. ?
If the window has a good height,
you might be able to try one at the top blowing out the hot air and
one at the bottom blowing in cool ?
K
kreed
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On Feb 11, 11:31 pm, F Murtz <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
While on the subject of ceiling fans, void those Arlec ones at
Bunnings, they are flat out getting up any
sort of airflow, and the motor is very lightweight. They are also the
first fan I have
ever seen that includes a "blade balancing kit" which includes a few
flat pieces of steel
and double sided tape for mounting them.
Their highest speed setting is about the same as a lowest speed
settings on your standard "airflow" ceiling fan that electricians
usually
install.
While on the subject of ceiling fans, void those Arlec ones at
Bunnings, they are flat out getting up any
sort of airflow, and the motor is very lightweight. They are also the
first fan I have
ever seen that includes a "blade balancing kit" which includes a few
flat pieces of steel
and double sided tape for mounting them.
Their highest speed setting is about the same as a lowest speed
settings on your standard "airflow" ceiling fan that electricians
usually
install.
A
Adrian Tuddenham
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Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote:
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Cardboard box?
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fritz
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"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote in message news:8rkr99Fq2eU1@mid.individual.net...
in the female of the species.
on your hands......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papier-m%C3%A2ch%C3%A9
Stick the fan outside, blow the air inside. Lateral thinking is absent
in the female of the species.
Rubbish - use paper and glue - you obviously have plenty of time
on your hands......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papier-m%C3%A2ch%C3%A9
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Wild_Bill
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FWIW..
A motor with 2 identical windings in series, is a PSC permanent split
capacitor motor.
Electrically, in a PSC motor the windings are the same as a center-tapped
transformer, having 3 leads.
PSC motors can be run in either direction, and that's one of their unique
features, a single-phase AC motor that can be instantly reversed (which
single-phase AC motors generally can't do, without allowing them to stop
before reversing).
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Cheers,
WB
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"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote in message
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A motor with 2 identical windings in series, is a PSC permanent split
capacitor motor.
Electrically, in a PSC motor the windings are the same as a center-tapped
transformer, having 3 leads.
PSC motors can be run in either direction, and that's one of their unique
features, a single-phase AC motor that can be instantly reversed (which
single-phase AC motors generally can't do, without allowing them to stop
before reversing).
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Cheers,
WB
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Jeffrey Angus
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On 2/11/2011 3:57 PM, Wild_Bill wrote:
Sorry, couldn't resist.
;-)
Jeff
Does that mean it's two-phase?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
;-)
Jeff
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Sylvia Else
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On 12/02/2011 8:28 AM, fritz wrote:
model of the pressure differential across an insect-screen?
Sylvia.
Do you have data for the structural properties? Also, a mathematical
model of the pressure differential across an insect-screen?
Sylvia.
A
Archon
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On 2/11/2011 8:18 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
http://www.target.com/Lasko-Electric-Reversible-Twin-Window/dp/B001VEFUPO
You can get them here (USA) for $20
JC
http://www.target.com/Lasko-Electric-Reversible-Twin-Window/dp/B001VEFUPO
You can get them here (USA) for $20
JC
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Sylvia Else
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On 12/02/2011 11:54 AM, kreed wrote:
thought might specify the power) seem to exist. So I emailed the
webadmin whose address was given on the web site. That email address
appears not to exist either (it bounced).
I hope they're better at making fans than they are at maintaining web sites.
Sylvia.
I found Lasko's web site. None of the instruction sheets (which I
thought might specify the power) seem to exist. So I emailed the
webadmin whose address was given on the web site. That email address
appears not to exist either (it bounced).
I hope they're better at making fans than they are at maintaining web sites.
Sylvia.
S
Sylvia Else
Guest
On 12/02/2011 12:28 PM, kreed wrote:
issue of the different frequency.
Sylvia.
I presume I'd need to buy a step down transformer, and then there's the
issue of the different frequency.
Sylvia.
K
kreed
Guest
On Feb 12, 10:42 am, Archon <Chipbee40_Spa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
achieve I think.
They are on Ebay, but all from the USA.
Note that most modern Australian windows slide horizontally - as long
as this works sideways and will
fit the opening, should be fine.
Never seen them, but they would be perfect for what Sylvia wants to
achieve I think.
They are on Ebay, but all from the USA.
Note that most modern Australian windows slide horizontally - as long
as this works sideways and will
fit the opening, should be fine.
K
kreed
Guest
On Feb 12, 11:19 am, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
"outside australia" and
there are several identical models. The sellers might be able to
help ?
These fans are also available on Ebay - search "window fan" and
"outside australia" and
there are several identical models. The sellers might be able to
help ?
J
Jasen Betts
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On 2011-02-11, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote:
or a cheap plastic bucket?
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I guess you didn't consider cardboard and packing tape then
or a cheap plastic bucket?
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atec77
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On 12/02/2011 1:43 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
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On 2011-02-11, Sylvia Else<sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote:
A conventional pedestal fan blows in such a direction that when it's
placed as near as possible to a window, the fan blades are still quite a
way from the cool air, and so the result is not as effective as it might
be. If I could reverse the direction of flow, then I could also turn
then fan around, so that the blades would be much closer to the window.
I considered simply building a duct, but the cost of materials was
excessive.
I guess you didn't consider cardboard and packing tape then
or a cheap plastic bucket?
I can think of another use for a bucket in sylivas case
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