not OT : fear...

[John Larkin]

https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/26/2022 1:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

I guess you get what you pay for

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

John Larkin wrote:

https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.

In lots of places, the state would very likely take your kids away for
raising them in the formerly normal free-range style.

If kids never get to take small risks on their own, they never learn.

A pity.

Phil Hobbs

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 14:11:00 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/26/2022 1:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

I guess you get what you pay for

Interns are cheap and most don\'t last long.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/26/2022 2:38 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 14:11:00 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/26/2022 1:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

I guess you get what you pay for

Interns are cheap and most don\'t last long.

I\'ve experienced bigger shocks from 12 volt batteries than this

 

[boB]

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 10:43:57 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.

We need more expendible technicians !

 

[bitrex]

On 7/26/2022 4:09 PM, boB wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 10:43:57 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:


https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.




We need more expendible technicians !

Fireproof paper:

<https://youtu.be/FnblmZdTbYs>

 

[amdx]

On 7/26/2022 12:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.

25 years ago my daughter was in kindergarten, it was already everyone
gets a ribbon, the play grounds were already child proof,
 if you passed out birthday cards, everyone had to get one.

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[bitrex]

On 7/26/2022 4:35 PM, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2022 12:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.



25 years ago my daughter was in kindergarten, it was already everyone
gets a ribbon, the play grounds were already child proof,
 if you passed out birthday cards, everyone had to get one.

Why, it was probably almost regularly illegal to give the gays an
old-fashioned brick-bashing back then. The country has really gone to
hell since the good ol\' days..

 

[bitrex]

On 7/26/2022 4:35 PM, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2022 12:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.



25 years ago my daughter was in kindergarten, it was already everyone
gets a ribbon, the play grounds were already child proof,
 if you passed out birthday cards, everyone had to get one.

Imagine being annoyed everyone got a ribbon in kindergarten, lol.

You think your superior genetics made your kid such an ubermensch that
they were already being \"robbed\" of proper recognition in what, the
FINGER PAINTING COMPETITION? First place in nap time or not spilling
their apple juice n cookies?

 

[rbowman]

On 07/26/2022 11:43 AM, John Larkin wrote:

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

On my first job there was a crusty old electrician who would test for
120 VAC by putting two fingers (on the same hand) across the terminals.
It took me a while to work up courage but I figured if he was in his
\'60s and hadn\'t killed himself...

It\'s not a big deal. The \'shock\' is just that, a surprise at a feeling
you didn\'t expect.

 

[amdx]

On 7/26/2022 4:44 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 7/26/2022 4:35 PM, amdx wrote:
On 7/26/2022 12:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.



25 years ago my daughter was in kindergarten, it was already everyone
gets a ribbon, the play grounds were already child proof,
  if you passed out birthday cards, everyone had to get one.


Why, it was probably almost regularly illegal to give the gays an
old-fashioned brick-bashing back then. The country has really gone to
hell since the good ol\' days..

That is a leap to far, just shows your hatred for conservatives. Nothing
constructive here.

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[amdx]

On 7/26/2022 4:59 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 7/26/2022 4:35 PM, amdx wrote:
On 7/26/2022 12:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.



25 years ago my daughter was in kindergarten, it was already everyone
gets a ribbon, the play grounds were already child proof,
  if you passed out birthday cards, everyone had to get one.


Imagine being annoyed everyone got a ribbon in kindergarten, lol.

No reward for merit. Why strive. Cs are fine, don\'t try to do better.

You think your superior genetics made your kid such an ubermensch

 No, it was parents that made sure they did their best, mostly an Asian
mother!

that they were already being \"robbed\" of proper recognition in what,
the FINGER PAINTING COMPETITION? First place in nap time or not
spilling their apple juice n cookies?

Ya, probably should wait until the end of High school.



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[bitrex]

On 7/26/2022 6:17 PM, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2022 4:44 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 7/26/2022 4:35 PM, amdx wrote:
On 7/26/2022 12:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.



25 years ago my daughter was in kindergarten, it was already everyone
gets a ribbon, the play grounds were already child proof,
  if you passed out birthday cards, everyone had to get one.


Why, it was probably almost regularly illegal to give the gays an
old-fashioned brick-bashing back then. The country has really gone to
hell since the good ol\' days..
That is a leap to far, just shows your hatred for conservatives. Nothing
constructive here.

I was barely out of middle school about that time and that\'s certainly
not the way I remember what school was like then. Which school was this?
My middle school had hardly changed since the late fifties. A bunch of
the staff that were hired in the late fifties were still there, in fact..

 

[bitrex]

On 7/26/2022 6:21 PM, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2022 4:59 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 7/26/2022 4:35 PM, amdx wrote:
On 7/26/2022 12:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.



25 years ago my daughter was in kindergarten, it was already everyone
gets a ribbon, the play grounds were already child proof,
  if you passed out birthday cards, everyone had to get one.


Imagine being annoyed everyone got a ribbon in kindergarten, lol.

No reward for merit. Why strive. Cs are fine, don\'t try to do better.


You think your superior genetics made your kid such an ubermensch
 No, it was parents that made sure they did their best, mostly an Asian
mother!


that they were already being \"robbed\" of proper recognition in what,
the FINGER PAINTING COMPETITION? First place in nap time or not
spilling their apple juice n cookies?

Ya, probably should wait until the end of High school.

Show me the kindergarten teacher who thinks they can objectively rank
the finger-paints of 5-6 y/os on their artistic merit.

So they can be sent to a loony bin..

 

[Ed Lee]

On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 3:16:31 PM UTC-7, rbowman wrote:

On 07/26/2022 11:43 AM, John Larkin wrote:
I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.
On my first job there was a crusty old electrician who would test for
120 VAC by putting two fingers (on the same hand) across the terminals.
It took me a while to work up courage but I figured if he was in his
\'60s and hadn\'t killed himself...

It\'s not a big deal. The \'shock\' is just that, a surprise at a feeling
you didn\'t expect.

I use my bare fingers to attach wires to the 400V EV battery. CHILDREN: DON\'T DO IT, USE HV GROVE. Actually, with the breaker disengaged, there is really not much risk. BTW, many auto mechanics won\'t even touch the casing of the EV battery. I had to bring it to my friend to unmount it from the car.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 17:44:34 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/26/2022 4:35 PM, amdx wrote:
On 7/26/2022 12:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.



25 years ago my daughter was in kindergarten, it was already everyone
gets a ribbon, the play grounds were already child proof,
 if you passed out birthday cards, everyone had to get one.


Why, it was probably almost regularly illegal to give the gays an
old-fashioned brick-bashing back then. The country has really gone to
hell since the good ol\' days..

Really sick.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/26/2022 6:37 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 17:44:34 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/26/2022 4:35 PM, amdx wrote:
On 7/26/2022 12:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

People are terrified of abs max. That\'s an interesting topic, abs max.
Especially for RF parts.

Half of young things are afraid to ride Lyft!

I wonder if all this social media and constant texting creates fear
circles, tribes of wusses, just as it aggregates political tendencies.



25 years ago my daughter was in kindergarten, it was already everyone
gets a ribbon, the play grounds were already child proof,
 if you passed out birthday cards, everyone had to get one.


Why, it was probably almost regularly illegal to give the gays an
old-fashioned brick-bashing back then. The country has really gone to
hell since the good ol\' days..

Really sick.

He\'s definitely misremembering how the mid 90s were for most kids, if
he\'d said 2005 yeah OK maybe.

Schools only really started in with zero-tolerance policies and
child-proof playgrounds and such after everyone went nuts after
Columbine and 9/11.

No shortage of Dems and Republicans who want to install ShotSpotter crap
and 500 cameras in schools or arm teachers, respectively, and make them
like just like prison camps, lots of money to be made in that business.

 

[Rich S]

On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 6:38:36 PM UTC, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 14:11:00 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 7/26/2022 1:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

I guess you get what you pay for
Interns are cheap and most don\'t last long.

Maybe during the interview, you ask them to
\"taste\" the top of an 9V battery. If they refuse,
or they do but get really upset then don\'t hire
them. :0)

I think getting shocked, blowing fuses, etc,
were a rite of passage for young experimenter.
Getting of visceral sense of energy, feel what is electricity.
But in today\'s highly safety-conscious society we mustn\'t
say such things :-X

 

[bitrex]

On 7/26/2022 10:06 PM, Rich S wrote:

On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 6:38:36 PM UTC, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 14:11:00 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 7/26/2022 1:43 PM, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.studyfinds.org/fear-for-safety-every-day/

What\'s wrong with kids these days? Most have been super-protected
children but are afraid of life.

Engineers have to THINK, blow things up, take calculated risks. Fear
warps prudent judgement.

I\'ve had interns that were afraid to touch a board powered from 5
volts, or handle a 12 volt battery. And wanted eye protection and
masks for everything. And who wouldn\'t crank up a power supply to see
how much an electrolytic cap would leak past abs max voltage rating.

I guess you get what you pay for
Interns are cheap and most don\'t last long.

Maybe during the interview, you ask them to
\"taste\" the top of an 9V battery. If they refuse,
or they do but get really upset then don\'t hire
them. :0)

I think getting shocked, blowing fuses, etc,
were a rite of passage for young experimenter.
Getting of visceral sense of energy, feel what is electricity.
But in today\'s highly safety-conscious society we mustn\'t
say such things :-X

Pretty sure I recall people here complaining more kids were going into
software than hardware these days.

Might have something to do with that nobody asks you to suck on a 9 volt
to get your first job in that field. And that first job usually pays way
better, too.