not OT : fear...

[Don Y]

On 8/16/2022 10:58 AM, whit3rd wrote:

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-7, Don Y wrote:

[To be truly amusing, imagine opening two different browsers on the same
machine. Should they *ever* be permitted to \"co-operate\"?]

No need to imagine, I\'m doing it. The main cooperation required, is just that
I can drag an address from the browser that mangles the page, to the
icon in the dock of the other browser, and see if that helps. Often, it does.

Latest issue: light-grey font on white. Gotta cut-and-paste into a text editor
to see it, multiple browsers don\'t help. I certainly DO miss the old \'show source\'
feature, which allowed some disentanglements in the past.

No, I mean having two \"tabs\" of the same browser-based *application* running
in different browsers.

E.g., An application that automates preparation of a tax return. Tab 1 shows
my 1040 and tab 2 shows my schedule A. Changes to schedule A in tab 2 are
automatically reflected on the 1040 in tab 1.

Now, have tab 1 be in an Edge browser and tab 2 be in Firefox.

This is contrary to the security model the browser is supposed to
provide; tab 1 shouldn\'t be able to interact with tab 2 (except
via client-side storage/cookies). Being able to bridge the
protection domain that a different application imposes should
(presumably) be \"impossible\" -- except for super cookies?

 

[none]

In article <4e05ee3b-9e69-4f3d-8fa6-371be61fcf7bn@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 5:58:34 AM UTC+10, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <jko0b1...@mid.individual.net>, bow...@montana.com
says...

Different era but when I was a IEEE member most of the interesting stuff
happened in the Boston chapter. My home chapter in New Hampshire was
almost all classic electrical engineers working for Public Service, the
power company. They basically knew nothing about computers except they
were afraid of them.



It is amazing to me how about 10 years can make a difference. I am 72
and a friend is 82. He was an electronics engineer with a 4 year degree
and worked in the Bell Labs and Western Electric. He is stuck in the
vacuum tube era. Does not like to use a computer and fills out his tax
by hand. I just went to a 2 year tech school for electronic
engineering. A few years after school the home computers came out. My
first was a TRS80 model 3. While I may not be great with computers now
I do use them all the time. About 2 years go I got into the Arduino
world and taught myself how to get around with one.

The problem isn\'t the age difference, but the attitude difference. I\'m 79, and I happily use my computer to fill out my
tax information.

My father wouldn\'t have a computer in the house, but as soon as he died, I got my mother to buy one. It took her a while
to get to use it. For about a year my nephews - her grandchildren - pulled my e-mails off her computer every week and
typed in her responses, but she watched them do and could eventually do it for herself and compose her own replies, and we
swapped e-mails every day for about a decade until senile dementia hit her.

This was before the IBM pc. In the Netherlands they gave presents at December
5th accompanied with a poem of sorts. (The original St. Nicolas).
A niece caught me writing these poems on the CPM machine (Osborne).
This was the first time she saw text processing in the flesh.
Boy, was she upset! Blasphemy.

>Bill Sloman, Sydney

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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 11:25:41 PM UTC+10, none albert wrote:

In article <4e05ee3b-9e69-4f3d...@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 5:58:34 AM UTC+10, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <jko0b1...@mid.individual.net>, bow...@montana.com
says...

Different era but when I was a IEEE member most of the interesting stuff
happened in the Boston chapter. My home chapter in New Hampshire was
almost all classic electrical engineers working for Public Service, the
power company. They basically knew nothing about computers except they
were afraid of them.

It is amazing to me how about 10 years can make a difference. I am 72
and a friend is 82. He was an electronics engineer with a 4 year degree
and worked in the Bell Labs and Western Electric. He is stuck in the
vacuum tube era. Does not like to use a computer and fills out his tax
by hand. I just went to a 2 year tech school for electronic
engineering. A few years after school the home computers came out. My
first was a TRS80 model 3. While I may not be great with computers now
I do use them all the time. About 2 years go I got into the Arduino
world and taught myself how to get around with one.

The problem isn\'t the age difference, but the attitude difference. I\'m 79, and I happily use my computer to fill out my
tax information.

My father wouldn\'t have a computer in the house, but as soon as he died, I got my mother to buy one. It took her a while
to get to use it. For about a year my nephews - her grandchildren - pulled my e-mails off her computer every week and
typed in her responses, but she watched them do and could eventually do it for herself and compose her own replies, and we
swapped e-mails every day for about a decade until senile dementia hit her.

This was before the IBM pc. In the Netherlands they gave presents at December
5th accompanied with a poem of sorts. (The original St. Nicolas).

I know about it, but my wife did all our poem writing - she was much better at it than I was.

A niece caught me writing these poems on the CPM machine (Osborne).
This was the first time she saw text processing in the flesh.
Boy, was she upset! Blasphemy.

Bizzare. But the ancient Greeks used to think that writing down poems was equally dubious - you were supposed to memorise them.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney