no income tax!...

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:25:15 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 1/10/2023 1:08 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

I think sales tax should be visible at purchase time, but it could be
hidden, like VAT.

The \"fair share\" that businesses pay is to move to Ireland or Mexico.

Great! Hopefully the government will have no choice then but to stop
spending 1 trillion a year on the military, and another 100-odd billion
on various militarized federal police endeavors.

Hint: they won\'t. Under Republicans, an army of gunned=up jackbooted
thugs are the only thing worth spending money on.

If we taxed thinking, you\'d save a bundle. If we taxed snark, you\'d be
in debtors\' prison.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:25:15 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 1/10/2023 1:08 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

I think sales tax should be visible at purchase time, but it could be
hidden, like VAT.

The \"fair share\" that businesses pay is to move to Ireland or Mexico.

Great! Hopefully the government will have no choice then but to stop
spending 1 trillion a year on the military, and another 100-odd billion
on various militarized federal police endeavors.

Hint: they won\'t. Under Republicans, an army of gunned=up jackbooted
thugs are the only thing worth spending money on.

If we taxed thinking, you\'d save a bundle. If we taxed snark, you\'d be
in debtors\' prison.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/10/2023 5:38 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 11:56:09 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

tirsdag den 10. januar 2023 kl. 19.08.58 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

and extremely regressive since the low incomes spend all their money and thus pay it on all their income

Exempt basics. California already does for food and such. Don\'t sales
tax used things; that would be hard to police anyhow.

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.

Why wouldn\'t car repair be exempt as \"necessary to decent family
survival\"? Low income people need car repairs, also, sometimes having a
functioning car can me the difference between having a job and being
homeless.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/10/2023 5:38 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 11:56:09 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

tirsdag den 10. januar 2023 kl. 19.08.58 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

and extremely regressive since the low incomes spend all their money and thus pay it on all their income

Exempt basics. California already does for food and such. Don\'t sales
tax used things; that would be hard to police anyhow.

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.

Why wouldn\'t car repair be exempt as \"necessary to decent family
survival\"? Low income people need car repairs, also, sometimes having a
functioning car can me the difference between having a job and being
homeless.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/10/2023 5:38 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 11:56:09 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

tirsdag den 10. januar 2023 kl. 19.08.58 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

and extremely regressive since the low incomes spend all their money and thus pay it on all their income

Exempt basics. California already does for food and such. Don\'t sales
tax used things; that would be hard to police anyhow.

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.

Why wouldn\'t car repair be exempt as \"necessary to decent family
survival\"? Low income people need car repairs, also, sometimes having a
functioning car can me the difference between having a job and being
homeless.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <cvprrhd676r0k4m9i3t4vms019fdqbrjqq@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com says...

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.

That was the way it was in NC for work on your house by contractors.
Such as put in new carpet,tax carpet, but not labor. Then it changed a
few years ago where they tax both.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <cvprrhd676r0k4m9i3t4vms019fdqbrjqq@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com says...

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.

That was the way it was in NC for work on your house by contractors.
Such as put in new carpet,tax carpet, but not labor. Then it changed a
few years ago where they tax both.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <cvprrhd676r0k4m9i3t4vms019fdqbrjqq@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com says...

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.

That was the way it was in NC for work on your house by contractors.
Such as put in new carpet,tax carpet, but not labor. Then it changed a
few years ago where they tax both.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <144e45fc-a64e-40d4-b922-4808076a8049n@googlegroups.com>,
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com says...

Then there\'s the manner in which sales tax hits the poor much harder than the rich, in terms of providing essentials. This is why many states don\'t tax food bought to be prepared at home. Other states have been shamed about this, but only managed to cut the tax in half! I\'m looking at YOU, Virginia.

At one time NC did not tax food, but that was over 50 years ago.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <144e45fc-a64e-40d4-b922-4808076a8049n@googlegroups.com>,
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com says...

Then there\'s the manner in which sales tax hits the poor much harder than the rich, in terms of providing essentials. This is why many states don\'t tax food bought to be prepared at home. Other states have been shamed about this, but only managed to cut the tax in half! I\'m looking at YOU, Virginia.

At one time NC did not tax food, but that was over 50 years ago.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <144e45fc-a64e-40d4-b922-4808076a8049n@googlegroups.com>,
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com says...

Then there\'s the manner in which sales tax hits the poor much harder than the rich, in terms of providing essentials. This is why many states don\'t tax food bought to be prepared at home. Other states have been shamed about this, but only managed to cut the tax in half! I\'m looking at YOU, Virginia.

At one time NC did not tax food, but that was over 50 years ago.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/10/2023 5:55 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:25:15 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 1/10/2023 1:08 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

I think sales tax should be visible at purchase time, but it could be
hidden, like VAT.

The \"fair share\" that businesses pay is to move to Ireland or Mexico.

Great! Hopefully the government will have no choice then but to stop
spending 1 trillion a year on the military, and another 100-odd billion
on various militarized federal police endeavors.

Hint: they won\'t. Under Republicans, an army of gunned=up jackbooted
thugs are the only thing worth spending money on.

If we taxed thinking, you\'d save a bundle. If we taxed snark, you\'d be
in debtors\' prison.=

I agree in principle that taxing the wealthy is pretty pointless at
least as things are now, in large part the money just goes to the
logistics of managing a global empire.

If there are any conservatives who\'re actually interested in scaling
back the scope of it then that\'s fine, but I doubt it. Like Reagan
they\'ll just deficit spend to make up the difference.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/10/2023 5:55 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:25:15 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 1/10/2023 1:08 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

I think sales tax should be visible at purchase time, but it could be
hidden, like VAT.

The \"fair share\" that businesses pay is to move to Ireland or Mexico.

Great! Hopefully the government will have no choice then but to stop
spending 1 trillion a year on the military, and another 100-odd billion
on various militarized federal police endeavors.

Hint: they won\'t. Under Republicans, an army of gunned=up jackbooted
thugs are the only thing worth spending money on.

If we taxed thinking, you\'d save a bundle. If we taxed snark, you\'d be
in debtors\' prison.=

I agree in principle that taxing the wealthy is pretty pointless at
least as things are now, in large part the money just goes to the
logistics of managing a global empire.

If there are any conservatives who\'re actually interested in scaling
back the scope of it then that\'s fine, but I doubt it. Like Reagan
they\'ll just deficit spend to make up the difference.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/10/2023 5:55 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:25:15 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 1/10/2023 1:08 PM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

I think sales tax should be visible at purchase time, but it could be
hidden, like VAT.

The \"fair share\" that businesses pay is to move to Ireland or Mexico.

Great! Hopefully the government will have no choice then but to stop
spending 1 trillion a year on the military, and another 100-odd billion
on various militarized federal police endeavors.

Hint: they won\'t. Under Republicans, an army of gunned=up jackbooted
thugs are the only thing worth spending money on.

If we taxed thinking, you\'d save a bundle. If we taxed snark, you\'d be
in debtors\' prison.=

I agree in principle that taxing the wealthy is pretty pointless at
least as things are now, in large part the money just goes to the
logistics of managing a global empire.

If there are any conservatives who\'re actually interested in scaling
back the scope of it then that\'s fine, but I doubt it. Like Reagan
they\'ll just deficit spend to make up the difference.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:56:26 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 1/10/2023 5:38 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 11:56:09 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

tirsdag den 10. januar 2023 kl. 19.08.58 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

and extremely regressive since the low incomes spend all their money and thus pay it on all their income

Exempt basics. California already does for food and such. Don\'t sales
tax used things; that would be hard to police anyhow.

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.


Why wouldn\'t car repair be exempt as \"necessary to decent family
survival\"? Low income people need car repairs, also, sometimes having a
functioning car can me the difference between having a job and being
homeless.

Sales taxes already exist, and poor people have to pay. Tax rates
could certainly be adjusted to help poor people in various ways. That
needn\'t be very complex.

Think about it.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:56:26 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 1/10/2023 5:38 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 11:56:09 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

tirsdag den 10. januar 2023 kl. 19.08.58 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

and extremely regressive since the low incomes spend all their money and thus pay it on all their income

Exempt basics. California already does for food and such. Don\'t sales
tax used things; that would be hard to police anyhow.

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.


Why wouldn\'t car repair be exempt as \"necessary to decent family
survival\"? Low income people need car repairs, also, sometimes having a
functioning car can me the difference between having a job and being
homeless.

Sales taxes already exist, and poor people have to pay. Tax rates
could certainly be adjusted to help poor people in various ways. That
needn\'t be very complex.

Think about it.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:56:26 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 1/10/2023 5:38 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 11:56:09 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

tirsdag den 10. januar 2023 kl. 19.08.58 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-vote-bill-abolishing-irs-eliminating-income-tax

I\'ve been wanting this for a long time. The income tax is an expensive
nightmare, a feeding trough for lawyers and accountants and cheating
experts. It drives businesses and jobs offshore.

A sales tax is easy to implement and police. It\'s voluntary too; just
exempt the things necessary to decent family survival. Buy a BMW if
you really want one.

and extremely regressive since the low incomes spend all their money and thus pay it on all their income

Exempt basics. California already does for food and such. Don\'t sales
tax used things; that would be hard to police anyhow.

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.


Why wouldn\'t car repair be exempt as \"necessary to decent family
survival\"? Low income people need car repairs, also, sometimes having a
functioning car can me the difference between having a job and being
homeless.

Sales taxes already exist, and poor people have to pay. Tax rates
could certainly be adjusted to help poor people in various ways. That
needn\'t be very complex.

Think about it.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:57:26 -0500, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

In article <cvprrhd676r0k4m9i3t4vms019fdqbrjqq@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com says...

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.




That was the way it was in NC for work on your house by contractors.
Such as put in new carpet,tax carpet, but not labor. Then it changed a
few years ago where they tax both.

Most legislators are past or future lawyers. Of course they don\'t want
to tax services.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:57:26 -0500, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

In article <cvprrhd676r0k4m9i3t4vms019fdqbrjqq@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com says...

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.




That was the way it was in NC for work on your house by contractors.
Such as put in new carpet,tax carpet, but not labor. Then it changed a
few years ago where they tax both.

Most legislators are past or future lawyers. Of course they don\'t want
to tax services.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:57:26 -0500, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

In article <cvprrhd676r0k4m9i3t4vms019fdqbrjqq@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com says...

In an increasingly-sevices based world, we don\'t have sales tax on
services. I pay tax on car parts but not labor for repair. That
doesn\'t make sense to me; tax all consumption.




That was the way it was in NC for work on your house by contractors.
Such as put in new carpet,tax carpet, but not labor. Then it changed a
few years ago where they tax both.

Most legislators are past or future lawyers. Of course they don\'t want
to tax services.