nightmare

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:03:21 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

von neumann architecture was a compromise to make computation cheaper
with the vacuum tubes and relays available at the time that has
persisted to the present day

Neither mercury delay lines nor later on core do not care, if it is
data or instruction. After all, a core memory read is actually
read/modify/write cycle. Only when using true (E/P)ROMs in which the
chips are programmed outside the computer and the program is 'loaded'
by inserting these chips into sockets, there are some benefit but of
course this can be don also in von neumans.

There are some advantages of using separate address spaces, one is
that since the same address can appear twice, you may save up to one
address bit at he cost of separate instructions for different address
spaces. Also the word length for D and I space can be different e.g.
the I-space might be 13 bits to better suite the instruction set with
D-space of 8 or 16 bits.

Unfortunately different word length also makes loading constants from
I space to D space becomes harder needing special instructions,
possibly with sign or zero extend.

If you intend to load programs from secondary storage, such as disks,
at least the program loader must be able to write to I-space. The same
applies of course to implementing virtual memory paging, which becomes
nastier with dissimilar word lengths.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 12:46:18 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 3:40:47 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

I'm not familiar with regulations of any country that require quality food rather than simply food that is safe enough it doesn't make you sick. Back when I ate meat, there were many times I had crappy meals with meat with no real taste or even a good texture in some cases. I also am not aware of any country with laws requiring anything other than a minimum level of not being cruel to animals. Have you ever even been near a chicken house? They are literally some of the most disgusting places I've ever seen.

Yeah, they are "controlled" but that has very little to do with the quality of the meat or the life it had before it became "meat".

The cheapest meat meals are the worst in terms of what they've done to produce that meal.

Yes, I have been to a Chicken farm. Some of my relatives raised 10,000 at a time. The buildings were clean, the chickens weren't crammed into tiny cages, and they hosed out the buildings daily to was away their crap. The buildings were temperature controlled, and they were rated as the best run operation in Kentucky at the time. They had an outbreak of some disease, once. All of the chicks were destroyed. The buildings were sterilized and every piece of equipment was inspected before that building was used again. This was over 50 years ago, when I was a teenager.

You appear to be bragging but you are helping to make my point. Especially the part about the conditions leading to an infectious outbreak that resulted in all the animals being "destroyed". Farms brag that the chickens are "free range" because they can go outside the building... into a pen that is a tiny fraction of the size of the building. The chickens don't seem to have any preference for that tiny screened in porch because it's all crowded, inside and out.

Yep, no small part of why I don't eat chicken anymore. I used to support Perdue with my chicken consumption, but I'm actually a lot happier and healthier eating little meat, only seafood really. If their were more options that didn't require cooking every meal and especially in restaurants, I think I wouldn't even eat seafood. Yeah, you can eat vegetarian in restaurant, but you end up having the same meal everywhere you go other than in places that are a bit more aware. One of the best places was an Afghan restaurant which had a number of veggie dished which weren't some contrived recipe.. They were authentic dishes. One was pumpkin and was excellent.

They were shipped from the hatchery where they bough their baby chicks, that should have destroyed them. It is illegal to give them antibiotics, so once it is found in any of their stock, they have to be destroyed. Quit bragging about your ignorance.

 

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 18:07:48 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Sadly the likes of Windows have far too much code executing with the
highest level of privileges for very minor speed gain and insanely high
vulnerability risk of buffer overrun attacks.

With proper memory management, buffer overflow exploits should be
impossible.

They were virtually impossible in the segmented model of OS/2.

Your data segment came with a length and you could trash it but step
over the permitted bounds and your process would be unceremoniously
terminated.

Did they port OS/2 to iAPX432 with a huge number of segments in the
hardware, thus each object could be given an own segment ? The iAPX432
is an other story

As I understand , the OS/2 just exploited the segment protection bits
in x86 and there was only as many separate segments as there are
segment registers. The 386 added some registers but still not much.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

I actually have a bit of a phobia I got at a job when I noticed
someone walking in to use the urinal while I was washing my hand,
then leaving without washing. I won't touch bathroom door handles
any more. lol

At least I know surgeons aren't touching the door handles, but
pretty much everyone working at your bar is touching the same door
handles as the patrons who wiped their rears and left without
washing.

I use one of the paper towels I pull to turn off the tap and open
the door as I pitch it, and I take one for the front door too.

I also told the staff to be wary of door handles too, but their
restroom actually smells like it is kept clean unlike so many I have
entered and wished I could jump right beck out of.

I worry about how long between beer tap & line clean outs and how
well it gets done. I have gotten sick after merely having a beer at
a certain bar. The alcohol doesn't kill it all, though I sure am
glad I am not from the 17th century. They were lucky they had beer
and wine. Some folks would not even be here. Don't drink the water.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

The folks running the cities etc. are nothing more than greedy
punks sucking a paycheck. These idiots do not even know how to
program a traffic light controller and that tech has been around
since the '70s!

You are such an idiot. People do the jobs they are asked to do
and the way they are asked to do it. Don't blame the workers as
the "easy" target. Maybe it's them, maybe it's the job.

Bullshit. A city planner sits on his ass 200 days out of the year.

Boilerplate traffic light control programs get put in place when
intersection usage numbers are easily analyzed and utilized to put
better programs in each light. When millions of dollars are charged
each year by private traffic hardware maint companies one would think
the job would get done right. You are miles off the mark saying that
them playing dumb is them doing their job.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

Lol, so it doesn't actually matter if anyone uses the soap, just
that it's the same as the soap used by surgeons, eh?

No, you dippy twerp. If the soap in the john is clean, good soap,
the kitchen likely uses it as well.

There is never any guarantee at any kitchen anywhere that soap gets
used at all by any food service personage.

What I also was getting at is that the foam style soap and
dispenser model that surgeons use is in use at that location
mentioned.

The soap itself is only chemically the same. Exact same
ingredients in the exact same proprtions. The difference is the
sterile manufacturing and packaging certification and process. It is
made on a line specific for sterile goods, and it gets tested
constantly for any chemical of biological contaminants in any of the
machinery of passages or lines.

So, it only matters if *I* use the soap. And if I eat I hope I can
'rest assured' that the staff uses it as well. Otherwise, I do not
eat there, I only shoot pool. There are dumps like that (places that
look so bad I only shoot pool there), and folks talking about how
good their food is, but you won't see me ordering any of it. I have
to watch where I step when I go outside for a toke.

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 4:41:49 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

The folks running the cities etc. are nothing more than greedy
punks sucking a paycheck. These idiots do not even know how to
program a traffic light controller and that tech has been around
since the '70s!

You are such an idiot. People do the jobs they are asked to do
and the way they are asked to do it. Don't blame the workers as
the "easy" target. Maybe it's them, maybe it's the job.

Bullshit. A city planner sits on his ass 200 days out of the year.

Boilerplate traffic light control programs get put in place when
intersection usage numbers are easily analyzed and utilized to put
better programs in each light. When millions of dollars are charged
each year by private traffic hardware maint companies one would think
the job would get done right. You are miles off the mark saying that
them playing dumb is them doing their job.

I forgot who I was talking to. No need to discuss the facts, you have already decided what you want to believe.

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[Rick C]

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 4:30:53 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

Lol, so it doesn't actually matter if anyone uses the soap, just
that it's the same as the soap used by surgeons, eh?


No, you dippy twerp. If the soap in the john is clean, good soap,
the kitchen likely uses it as well.

Doesn't really matter what soap if it isn't used.

There is never any guarantee at any kitchen anywhere that soap gets
used at all by any food service personage.

You are starting to catch on.

What I also was getting at is that the foam style soap and
dispenser model that surgeons use is in use at that location
mentioned.

The soap itself is only chemically the same. Exact same
ingredients in the exact same proprtions. The difference is the
sterile manufacturing and packaging certification and process. It is
made on a line specific for sterile goods, and it gets tested
constantly for any chemical of biological contaminants in any of the
machinery of passages or lines.

So, it only matters if *I* use the soap. And if I eat I hope I can
'rest assured' that the staff uses it as well. Otherwise, I do not
eat there, I only shoot pool. There are dumps like that (places that
look so bad I only shoot pool there), and folks talking about how
good their food is, but you won't see me ordering any of it. I have
to watch where I step when I go outside for a toke.

Yes, you *hope* the staff uses it as well. So there really isn't any point to all your concerns about the soap.

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[Rick C]

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 2:24:15 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 12:46:18 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 3:40:47 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

I'm not familiar with regulations of any country that require quality food rather than simply food that is safe enough it doesn't make you sick. Back when I ate meat, there were many times I had crappy meals with meat with no real taste or even a good texture in some cases. I also am not aware of any country with laws requiring anything other than a minimum level of not being cruel to animals. Have you ever even been near a chicken house? They are literally some of the most disgusting places I've ever seen.

Yeah, they are "controlled" but that has very little to do with the quality of the meat or the life it had before it became "meat".

The cheapest meat meals are the worst in terms of what they've done to produce that meal.

Yes, I have been to a Chicken farm. Some of my relatives raised 10,000 at a time. The buildings were clean, the chickens weren't crammed into tiny cages, and they hosed out the buildings daily to was away their crap. The buildings were temperature controlled, and they were rated as the best run operation in Kentucky at the time. They had an outbreak of some disease, once. All of the chicks were destroyed. The buildings were sterilized and every piece of equipment was inspected before that building was used again. This was over 50 years ago, when I was a teenager.

You appear to be bragging but you are helping to make my point. Especially the part about the conditions leading to an infectious outbreak that resulted in all the animals being "destroyed". Farms brag that the chickens are "free range" because they can go outside the building... into a pen that is a tiny fraction of the size of the building. The chickens don't seem to have any preference for that tiny screened in porch because it's all crowded, inside and out.

Yep, no small part of why I don't eat chicken anymore. I used to support Perdue with my chicken consumption, but I'm actually a lot happier and healthier eating little meat, only seafood really. If their were more options that didn't require cooking every meal and especially in restaurants, I think I wouldn't even eat seafood. Yeah, you can eat vegetarian in restaurant, but you end up having the same meal everywhere you go other than in places that are a bit more aware. One of the best places was an Afghan restaurant which had a number of veggie dished which weren't some contrived recipe. They were authentic dishes. One was pumpkin and was excellent.

They were shipped from the hatchery where they bough their baby chicks, that should have destroyed them. It is illegal to give them antibiotics, so once it is found in any of their stock, they have to be destroyed. Quit bragging about your ignorance.

Lol. Don't you understand why antibiotics aren't to be used with animals? It's because the more widely they are used, the quicker the bacteria build up immunities. Antibiotics were a god send when first discovered. Now we have to ration the good ones to the sickest patients to keep from loosing those last few.

Nothing you said has any significance to what I said, so it would seem to be you who are ignorant. Maybe you should quit at this point.

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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

There are many things we can save money on by investing. But the
return is often marginal and people aren't interested.

You are too stupid to know. Obviously.

Watts is watts, boy.

Dollars is dollars.

5X savings is 5X savings, dipshit.

That means one fifth goes to the new lamp and four fifths STAY in
the COFFERS!

Are you so pathetically stupid that you are in this group sans math
skills?

Your active brain cell count is marginal.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

I see street lights still on all the time because even the new
units are fitted with 6 decade old day-night sensor technology.
They should have a fucking RTC in them or even one per 8 lights.

Or maybe something is simply broken? Why do you rile about such
little things?

Can you rally be that stupid? It is a simple circuit. Power lights
lamp when the switch is ON. Power no makey to the lampy when switch
is OFF. If it is BROAD DAYLIGHT and the light is ON, then the SWITCH
is OBVIOUSLY BROKEN, you stupid, ZERO diagnostic skill dumbshit!

The switch in question is the one that has been PERCHED on TOP of
EVERY street lamp there is since the '50s, and even now on the LED
jobs, because obviously IDIOTS like you work at the street lamp
factory!

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

I guess they could use them for arbitrage of electricity paying
for the installation after a couple of decades.

Damn boy you think of some stupid irrelevant shit.

Cities PAY for the juice that lights the streets. They always have
in every city I ever knew of in the US at least.

THIS system would be 5 times less power. THAT would PAY for the new
hardware in pretty short order, dingledorf. I would constantly beat
out decades of high wattage use. That is hard cash in a budget, sonny.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

Battery backed up street lighting??? Why, it really isn't that
important.

Stop pissing and moaning.

LED lighting would be 5 times less power so setting up an 8 hour or
12 hour backup in the head with the LED electronics would not even be
as heavy as they currently are. It would keep dark streets lit
during a blackpout however. You seem to think we do not need any
street lights anywhere. The whole reason we have them is to light
the street at night. So it is as important to have the light as it
was to actually place the light there to have. Having a fail on
power and still being able to see is a very good thing. Why you
would even question it is curious and an indicator that you do not
really have that great a grasp on things.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

I talked to one of the traffic light maintainers once. The main
drag through town was timed to let you continue to catch green
lights if you drove under the speed limit. A couple were a little
early or late. I asked the guy if they could adjust them. He
went off a bit complaining that those lights were paid for by the
state although the city did the work. The state refused to
upgrade them to modern devices that would work properly. In other
words, it's not his fault, he was trying to make it all work as
best he could.

Nice try. Made up total bullshit.

There are no hardware upgrades. They are ALL using fifty year old
technology. They are ALL addressable via phone line modem.

The problem is that even though sensors are in place and the light
is programmable to operate based on traffic flow, they set them to
TIMER during the day and only turn on the multi-million dollar
washing machine realy timer to priority mode AT NIGHT.

More sensors are needs further back on the road so upcoming traffic
can be known and better managed and that will save fuel. A light
could be switched for cars such that stopping is not needed nearly as
often, instead of stopping a group of upcoming cars to let one car
go. The current sensor/controller set up is sad and broken and when
one fails it takes weeks or months to get repaired or they simply
switch the light to timer all day and never repair the failed sensor.

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 4:53:51 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

Battery backed up street lighting??? Why, it really isn't that
important.

Stop pissing and moaning.

Pissing an moaning???? WTF is wrong with you?

LED lighting would be 5 times less power so setting up an 8 hour or
12 hour backup in the head with the LED electronics would not even be
as heavy as they currently are. It would keep dark streets lit
during a blackpout however. You seem to think we do not need any
street lights anywhere. The whole reason we have them is to light
the street at night. So it is as important to have the light as it
was to actually place the light there to have. Having a fail on
power and still being able to see is a very good thing. Why you
would even question it is curious and an indicator that you do not
really have that great a grasp on things.

Nothing you said here has any relevance to the discussion of battery back up.

WTF does "So it is as important to have the light as it was to actually place the light there to have." even mean? Have and have???

Lights burn out more often than power failures. The world doesn't end. We have plenty of locations without street lighting. The cost of battery backup would significantly increase the total cost of the lights, so we would afford less of them which means more areas with no lights at all.

You just keep responding to the same post, so obviously I hit a nerve. I guess I'll just ignore the rest.

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[Rick C]

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 4:49:30 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3b8396f-3fdb-40a9-a00d-1eb26684a8ab@googlegroups.com:

I talked to one of the traffic light maintainers once. The main
drag through town was timed to let you continue to catch green
lights if you drove under the speed limit. A couple were a little
early or late. I asked the guy if they could adjust them. He
went off a bit complaining that those lights were paid for by the
state although the city did the work. The state refused to
upgrade them to modern devices that would work properly. In other
words, it's not his fault, he was trying to make it all work as
best he could.


Nice try. Made up total bullshit.

There are no hardware upgrades. They are ALL using fifty year old
technology. They are ALL addressable via phone line modem.

The problem is that even though sensors are in place and the light
is programmable to operate based on traffic flow, they set them to
TIMER during the day and only turn on the multi-million dollar
washing machine realy timer to priority mode AT NIGHT.

More sensors are needs further back on the road so upcoming traffic
can be known and better managed and that will save fuel. A light
could be switched for cars such that stopping is not needed nearly as
often, instead of stopping a group of upcoming cars to let one car
go. The current sensor/controller set up is sad and broken and when
one fails it takes weeks or months to get repaired or they simply
switch the light to timer all day and never repair the failed sensor.

Yes indeed. You know all, you tell all. Unfortunately it's all wrong. Wait! Where have I heard that before?

BTW, this was some 20 years ago, so the equipment was only 30 years old at the time. lol

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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:387c2e86-bb51-4c4d-a6dd-305257bbc45a@googlegroups.com:

The cost of battery backup would significantly increase the total
cost of the lights,

No it would not. Current lights are very expensive lamp tubes on
very expensive AC HOT lamp tube mounting sockets in a triple overpriced
POS '70s tech crap street light. Same shit been around forever.

An LED version WITH a battery would take up the same lamp head space
and be CHEAPER than the crap the maker has been ripping of the American
people with for DECADES.

You are not even any good at counting beans, BOY. You are dirt dumb.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in news:387c2e86-bb51-
4c4d-a6dd-305257bbc45a@googlegroups.com:

> Lights burn out more often than power failures.

WAKE UP YOU STUPID FUCK!!!

L E D

No, you dippy dumbfuck, they DO NOT!

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:82d2030b-cee2-450d-b1fb-f2151cbffb22@googlegroups.com:

Lol. Don't you understand why antibiotics aren't to be used with
animals? It's because the more widely they are used, the quicker
the bacteria build up immunities.

You need to stop with the lol crap. It makes you look even more
immature than the other things you post.

And you are wrong. Pfizer or Zoetis makes animal antibiotics used
by the agri industry, and they are one of the biggest pharma
companies in the world. There plants take up several footbal fields
of space so dem cows must be getting their cocktails. 'cause that is
exactly what they make there.

See dem cows... See dem wings... dem r not ducks. dem r
antibiotic raised cows.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a88e2eb0-620e-450b-b5c1-9f50e9018d8a@googlegroups.com:

BTW, this was some 20 years ago, so the equipment was only 30
years old at the time. lol

Same gear as now. Traffic controllers and the tech inside is the
same as it was in the '70s.

Your immaturity shows with each and every retarded LOLygag you spout,
boy.