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As I recall the same flip-flops (footwear) were alsoOn Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:53:05 +0000 (UTC), glen herrmannsfeldt
g...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
In comp.lang.verilog Otto Bahn <Ladybrr...@grointohell.com> wrote:
"Jonathan de Boyne Pollard" <J.deBoynePollard-newsgro...@NTLWorld.COM> wrote
I keep waiting for some poster to do a J-K flip flop.
Here's an interesting shibboleth: In some electronics design professional
circles they aren't ever called "flip-flops", and doing so marks one as an
outsider.
I guess the old joke lyric "I got a brand new TTL cookbook,
you got the brand new C" is looking pretty dated.
And when was it that the beach wear started to be called flip-flops?
We called rubber beach sandals "flip-flops" starting when they were
first sold in the U.S., in the late 1950s or early 1960s.
BW
Wonder what she'd've thought of referring to this as a "threek":Once upon a time when my ex-wife was still my girlfriend
she was puzzled when I referred to her jandals as bistables.
She was my MSc ex-student so I insisted she figure it out
for herself. I must say after less than a minute she did
but said it was lame.
Once upon a time when my ex-wife was still my girlfriendI keep waiting for some poster to do a J-K flip flop.
Here's an interesting shibboleth: In some electronics design
professional circles they aren't ever called "flip-flops", and doing so
marks one as an outsider.
Yes, the vacuum kind. Solid-state ones came later.We called rubber beach sandals "flip-flops" starting when they were
first sold in the U.S., in the late 1950s or early 1960s.
I am shocked, *shocked* I tell you, that the OED would moreI keep waiting for some poster to do a J-K flip flop.
Here's an interesting shibboleth: In some electronics design
professional circles they aren't ever called "flip-flops", and
doing so marks one as an outsider.
I guess the old joke lyric "I got a brand new TTL cookbook,
you got the brand new C" is looking pretty dated.
And when was it that the beach wear started to be called flip-flops?
We called rubber beach sandals "flip-flops" starting when they were
first sold in the U.S., in the late 1950s or early 1960s.
The OED cites it to 1958 in the footwear sense, 1935 in the hardware
sense.
My experience with them began in the steam-powered era, when they wereOn 2010-03-30, barbara@bookpro.com wrote:
We called rubber beach sandals "flip-flops" starting when they were
first sold in the U.S., in the late 1950s or early 1960s.
Yes, the vacuum kind. Solid-state ones came later.
PS: 1954.Adam Funk wrote:
On 2010-03-30, barbara@bookpro.com wrote:
We called rubber beach sandals "flip-flops" starting when they
were first sold in the U.S., in the late 1950s or early 1960s.
Yes, the vacuum kind. Solid-state ones came later.
My experience with them began in the steam-powered era, when they
were "go-aheads".
I once had a lovely double relay coil version: two coils, a hingedAdam Funk wrote:
On 2010-03-30, barbara@bookpro.com wrote:
We called rubber beach sandals "flip-flops" starting when they were
first sold in the U.S., in the late 1950s or early 1960s.
Yes, the vacuum kind. Solid-state ones came later.
My experience with them began in the steam-powered era, when they were
"go-aheads".
Well, it's all right until you lose the electrolyte dispenser.Even the water-proof variety is vulnerable
to pop-tops. Professionals call them
"multivibrators" but any cave man or beach-bum
can tell you it takes more than one shot of
tequila to sustain oscillation in that mode.
nomenclature in everyday use, from the very newsgroup that we areI keep waiting for some poster to do a J-K flip flop.
Here's an interesting shibboleth: In some electronics design
professional circles they aren't ever called "flip-flops", and doing
so marks one as an outsider.
What are they called nowadays?
In those circles: "flops". Here's a randomly selected example of this
I have a clock signal coming into my FPGA. It is a slow clock (10kHz)
that drives a state machine. I want to bring it into another
clock domain by using a 3 flops in a row like shift register. The
clock driving the sync flops is much faster (90MHz).
I am actually running a gate level simulation (Altera Cyclone 3).
ModelSim tells me I have timing violations on the first flop in the
synchronizer, which is to be expected. But the remaining flops
in the sync circuit will move this async signal into the new domain
and should eliminate metastablity and setup/hold violations.
[...]I keep waiting for some poster to do a J-K flip flop.
Here's an interesting shibboleth: In some electronics design
professional circles they aren't ever called "flip-flops", and doing
so marks one as an outsider.
What are they called nowadays?
In those circles: "flops". Here's a randomly selected example of this
nomenclature in everyday use, from the very newsgroup that we are
discussing this in, from five months ago:
I thought a flop was a floating-point operation....rOn Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:01:56 +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> wrote:
I keep waiting for some poster to do a J-K flip flop.
Here's an interesting shibboleth: In some electronics design
professional circles they aren't ever called "flip-flops", and doing
so marks one as an outsider.
What are they called nowadays?
In those circles: "flops". Here's a randomly selected example of this
nomenclature in everyday use, from the very newsgroup that we are
discussing this in, from five months ago:
[...]
A flop is a process; a flip-flop is a device.
The culpability of a female or oneself is a matter of opinion, however.On 2010-03-30, Sue... wrote:
can tell you it takes more than one shot of
tequila to sustain oscillation in that mode.
Well, it's all right until you lose the electrolyte dispenser.
"Operation", "processs", alla same to me.Hatunen filted:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:01:56 +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> wrote:
I keep waiting for some poster to do a J-K flip flop.
Here's an interesting shibboleth: In some electronics design
professional circles they aren't ever called "flip-flops", and doing
so marks one as an outsider.
What are they called nowadays?
In those circles: "flops". Here's a randomly selected example of this
nomenclature in everyday use, from the very newsgroup that we are
discussing this in, from five months ago:
[...]
A flop is a process; a flip-flop is a device.
I thought a flop was a floating-point operation....r
Tak To:Here's an interesting shibboleth: In some electronics design
professional circles they aren't ever called "flip-flops", and doing
so marks one as an outsider.
Jonathan Pollard:What are they called nowadays?
Dave Hatunen:In those circles: "flops".
I would've said that the process that a flip-flop undergoes is a flip.A flop is a process; a flip-flop is a device.
Dave Hatunen:I thought a flop was a floating-point operation.
Not when you're constructing acronyms!"Operation", "processs", alla same to me.
I keep waiting for some poster to do a J-K flip flop.
Here's an interesting shibboleth: In some electronics design
professional circles they aren't ever called "flip-flops", and
doing so marks one as an outsider.
What are they called nowadays?
In those circles: "flops". Here's a randomly selected example of this
nomenclature in everyday use, from the very newsgroup that we are
discussing this in, from five months ago: [...]
A flop is a process; a flip-flop is a device.
And thus you, too, are marked as an outsider. (-:
And when was it that the beach wear started to be called flip-flops?
I haven't yet tried to explain to my daughter that when I was
her age that flip-flops were electronic circuits.
Looks like a flux capacitor due west.glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
And when was it that the beach wear started to be called flip-flops?
I haven't yet tried to explain to my daughter that when I was
her age that flip-flops were electronic circuits.
http://xkcd.com/730/
(just SW of the arena)
Using holy water as a ground won't work just for starters.And when was it that the beach wear started to be called flip-flops?
I haven't yet tried to explain to my daughter that when I was
her age that flip-flops were electronic circuits.
http://xkcd.com/730/
(just SW of the arena)
Looks like a flux capacitor due west.
AFAIK, flip-flops were named in the mid-60s... But I'm sure someoneglen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
And when was it that the beach wear started to be called flip-flops?
I haven't yet tried to explain to my daughter that when I was
her age that flip-flops were electronic circuits.