Much more BAD NEWS for Lyin\' Biden\'s electrification plan...

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 2:05:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 3:28:14 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 4:08:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:00:09 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:19:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 1:38:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 4:25:17 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:01:15 PM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 9/12/2022 7:28 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:44:14 PM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 9/11/2022 9:04 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:50:57 AM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 8/26/2022 2:58 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 4:39:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 10:09:27 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 2:20:39 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 9:01:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 12:57:03 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 5:45:17 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 9:39:26 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

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If the greenies had persuaded them to over-invest in cheap renewable generation, they wouldn\'t need to charge high volume consumers more for consuming more power, so presumably they haven\'t. In fact it takes time and money to buy and install new generating plant, and while the old fossil-carbon fueled year is still working it makes sense to squeeze it for some last dregs of output, particularly when the sun isn\'t shining and the wind isn\'t blowing. If they hadn\'t invested much - so far - in pumped storage and grid-scale batteries, they wouldn\'t have a lot of choice.

The greenies have been less vocal about pumped storage and grid batteries, which is bit silly, but the argument for that investment is less obvious, and people like Gnatguy can\'t understand it at all.

Hey Bill, \"renewables\" are also known as UNRELIABLES - they can\'t be depended upon (just ask the Brits).

They aren\'t. They are intermittent sources but the sun rises pretty reliably every day. You do need grid storage to bridge the gaps, and we haven\'t got enough of that yet. We do know that your failing mind can\'t grasp this idea, and there\'s no need for you to remind us that your senile dementia is getting worse.

Intermittent = UNRELIABLE.

So plants can\'t be relied to grow and feed us? Grow up.

HA HA HA HA!!! Hey Bozo, are you FUCKING SERIOUS??? Since when do PLANTS provide any power?????

Every time you stand up you do it by expending power derived from eating plants - either directly, when you yourself ate the plants involved - or indirectly when you have eaten animals that were fed by plants. Even the fossil carbon you are so enthusiastic about burning for fuel started off as plants, a very long time ago.
Neither sunlight or wind is predictable. Just look at the short term variation of both.

But the long term variation - which is what matters - is a lot smaller. You have to scale your storage to match the expected - and largely predictable - variation, but that\'s something you can design for, if you have enough sense to comprehend what\'s going on, which you clearly don\'t. You are far gone in dementia.

Hey Bozo, LONG TERM we are all DEAD!!!!!!! We need resources BEFORE THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The sun comes up every day. We could hope that you would be dead before then, but we are unlikely to be quite that lucky.

Grid storage is aimed at bridging relatively short intervals - from one day to the next - or over a couple of days of bad weather at most. If you had a working brain you\'d adjust your rhetoric to reflect that obvious reality, but instead you recycle a line that may have worked for John Maynard Keynes, but doesn\'t work in this context.

Hey Bill, forget about storage for days, they can\'t even store energy for HOURS! Show me ANY utility level battery system that can store energy for days.

They all do. Pumped hydroelectric storage can store energy for years. The Hornsdale grid scale battery in South Australia is build with electric car batteries off Tesla\'s production line. Electric cars lose about 2% of 3% of their stored charge per month. Vanadium flow cells should do even better.

Making them big enough to supply the whole grid on their own would be a different problem., but it isn\'t one we need to solve.

The green hydrogen enthusiasts figure that we can store big enough volumes of liquid hydrogen to do that job, but that does throw away 75% of the energy used to create the liquid hydrogen. Batteries and pumped storage only throw away about 15%.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:55:10 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 2:05:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 3:28:14 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 4:08:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:00:09 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:19:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 1:38:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 4:25:17 AM UTC-7, bill.....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:01:15 PM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 9/12/2022 7:28 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:44:14 PM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 9/11/2022 9:04 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:50:57 AM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 8/26/2022 2:58 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 4:39:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 10:09:27 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 2:20:39 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 9:01:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 12:57:03 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 5:45:17 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 9:39:26 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

snip
If the greenies had persuaded them to over-invest in cheap renewable generation, they wouldn\'t need to charge high volume consumers more for consuming more power, so presumably they haven\'t. In fact it takes time and money to buy and install new generating plant, and while the old fossil-carbon fueled year is still working it makes sense to squeeze it for some last dregs of output, particularly when the sun isn\'t shining and the wind isn\'t blowing. If they hadn\'t invested much - so far - in pumped storage and grid-scale batteries, they wouldn\'t have a lot of choice.

The greenies have been less vocal about pumped storage and grid batteries, which is bit silly, but the argument for that investment is less obvious, and people like Gnatguy can\'t understand it at all.

Hey Bill, \"renewables\" are also known as UNRELIABLES - they can\'t be depended upon (just ask the Brits).

They aren\'t. They are intermittent sources but the sun rises pretty reliably every day. You do need grid storage to bridge the gaps, and we haven\'t got enough of that yet. We do know that your failing mind can\'t grasp this idea, and there\'s no need for you to remind us that your senile dementia is getting worse.

Intermittent = UNRELIABLE.

So plants can\'t be relied to grow and feed us? Grow up.

HA HA HA HA!!! Hey Bozo, are you FUCKING SERIOUS??? Since when do PLANTS provide any power?????

Every time you stand up you do it by expending power derived from eating plants - either directly, when you yourself ate the plants involved - or indirectly when you have eaten animals that were fed by plants. Even the fossil carbon you are so enthusiastic about burning for fuel started off as plants, a very long time ago.
Neither sunlight or wind is predictable. Just look at the short term variation of both.

But the long term variation - which is what matters - is a lot smaller. You have to scale your storage to match the expected - and largely predictable - variation, but that\'s something you can design for, if you have enough sense to comprehend what\'s going on, which you clearly don\'t. You are far gone in dementia.

Hey Bozo, LONG TERM we are all DEAD!!!!!!! We need resources BEFORE THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The sun comes up every day. We could hope that you would be dead before then, but we are unlikely to be quite that lucky.

Grid storage is aimed at bridging relatively short intervals - from one day to the next - or over a couple of days of bad weather at most. If you had a working brain you\'d adjust your rhetoric to reflect that obvious reality, but instead you recycle a line that may have worked for John Maynard Keynes, but doesn\'t work in this context.

Hey Bill, forget about storage for days, they can\'t even store energy for HOURS! Show me ANY utility level battery system that can store energy for days.

They all do. Pumped hydroelectric storage can store energy for years. The Hornsdale grid scale battery in South Australia is build with electric car batteries off Tesla\'s production line. Electric cars lose about 2% of 3% of their stored charge per month. Vanadium flow cells should do even better.

Making them big enough to supply the whole grid on their own would be a different problem., but it isn\'t one we need to solve.

The green hydrogen enthusiasts figure that we can store big enough volumes of liquid hydrogen to do that job, but that does throw away 75% of the energy used to create the liquid hydrogen. Batteries and pumped storage only throw away about 15%.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Hey Bozo, how much pumped storage is their and is it scalable to the size required? I doubt it. Also, it is located far away from the load and generation, requiring transmission lines.

And you NEVER answered the critical question: HOW MUCH do transmission lines COST PER MILE???

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:38:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:55:10 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 2:05:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 3:28:14 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 4:08:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:00:09 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:19:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 1:38:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 4:25:17 AM UTC-7, bill.....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:01:15 PM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 9/12/2022 7:28 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:44:14 PM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 9/11/2022 9:04 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:50:57 AM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 8/26/2022 2:58 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 4:39:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 10:09:27 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 2:20:39 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 9:01:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 12:57:03 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 5:45:17 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 9:39:26 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

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If the greenies had persuaded them to over-invest in cheap renewable generation, they wouldn\'t need to charge high volume consumers more for consuming more power, so presumably they haven\'t. In fact it takes time and money to buy and install new generating plant, and while the old fossil-carbon fueled year is still working it makes sense to squeeze it for some last dregs of output, particularly when the sun isn\'t shining and the wind isn\'t blowing. If they hadn\'t invested much - so far - in pumped storage and grid-scale batteries, they wouldn\'t have a lot of choice.

The greenies have been less vocal about pumped storage and grid batteries, which is bit silly, but the argument for that investment is less obvious, and people like Gnatguy can\'t understand it at all.

Hey Bill, \"renewables\" are also known as UNRELIABLES - they can\'t be depended upon (just ask the Brits).

They aren\'t. They are intermittent sources but the sun rises pretty reliably every day. You do need grid storage to bridge the gaps, and we haven\'t got enough of that yet. We do know that your failing mind can\'t grasp this idea, and there\'s no need for you to remind us that your senile dementia is getting worse.

Intermittent = UNRELIABLE.

So plants can\'t be relied to grow and feed us? Grow up.

HA HA HA HA!!! Hey Bozo, are you FUCKING SERIOUS??? Since when do PLANTS provide any power?????

Every time you stand up you do it by expending power derived from eating plants - either directly, when you yourself ate the plants involved - or indirectly when you have eaten animals that were fed by plants. Even the fossil carbon you are so enthusiastic about burning for fuel started off as plants, a very long time ago.
Neither sunlight or wind is predictable. Just look at the short term variation of both.

But the long term variation - which is what matters - is a lot smaller. You have to scale your storage to match the expected - and largely predictable - variation, but that\'s something you can design for, if you have enough sense to comprehend what\'s going on, which you clearly don\'t. You are far gone in dementia.

Hey Bozo, LONG TERM we are all DEAD!!!!!!! We need resources BEFORE THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The sun comes up every day. We could hope that you would be dead before then, but we are unlikely to be quite that lucky.

Grid storage is aimed at bridging relatively short intervals - from one day to the next - or over a couple of days of bad weather at most. If you had a working brain you\'d adjust your rhetoric to reflect that obvious reality, but instead you recycle a line that may have worked for John Maynard Keynes, but doesn\'t work in this context.

Hey Bill, forget about storage for days, they can\'t even store energy for HOURS! Show me ANY utility level battery system that can store energy for days.

They all do. Pumped hydroelectric storage can store energy for years. The Hornsdale grid scale battery in South Australia is build with electric car batteries off Tesla\'s production line. Electric cars lose about 2% of 3% of their stored charge per month. Vanadium flow cells should do even better.

Making them big enough to supply the whole grid on their own would be a different problem., but it isn\'t one we need to solve.

The green hydrogen enthusiasts figure that we can store big enough volumes of liquid hydrogen to do that job, but that does throw away 75% of the energy used to create the liquid hydrogen. Batteries and pumped storage only throw away about 15%.

Hey, how much pumped storage is there and is it scalable to the size required? I doubt it.

So does everybody else. That\'s why there\'s so much interest in grid scale batteries. When we fully go over to electric cars the batteries in the parked cars could supply something like three times the full grid output, if not for all that long, so it is clearly capable of scaling up to the power output required.

Vanadium flow batteries would probably be a better solution, but they aren\'t yet manufactured in that kind of volume

>Also, it is located far away from the load and generation, requiring transmission lines.

We\'ve got them and can build more.

> And you NEVER answered the critical question: HOW MUCH do transmission lines COST PER MILE???

Since you didn\'t specify the amount of power to be transmitted or the nature of the terrain over which the line has to run, it wasn\'t a well-formulated question.

A 500kV direct current link is more expensive per mile than an 11kV AC local link.

Do some more work on finding out the sort of questions you ought to be asking, and don\'t come back until you can do better.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[whit3rd]

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 8:38:41 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

> ... the critical question: HOW MUCH do transmission lines COST PER MILE???

That\'s easy; cat5 wire has four transmission lines, and Digikey has it for circa $1 per foot,
so... a kilobuck or so.

As for power transmission, that depends on terrain, capacity, etc. It would have to
be determined by asking for engineering outfits to submit bids.

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 6:44:49 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 8:38:41 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

... the critical question: HOW MUCH do transmission lines COST PER MILE???

That\'s easy; cat5 wire has four transmission lines, and Digikey has it for circa $1 per foot,
so... a kilobuck or so.

As for power transmission, that depends on terrain, capacity, etc. It would have to
be determined by asking for engineering outfits to submit bids.

I would call you a fucking idiot, but you have not yet achieved that level of intelligence.

 

[Flyguy]

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 10:51:37 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:38:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:55:10 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 2:05:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 3:28:14 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 4:08:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:00:09 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:19:34 PM UTC-7, bill.....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 1:38:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 4:25:17 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:01:15 PM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 9/12/2022 7:28 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:44:14 PM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 9/11/2022 9:04 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:50:57 AM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 8/26/2022 2:58 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 4:39:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 10:09:27 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 2:20:39 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 9:01:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 12:57:03 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 5:45:17 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 9:39:26 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

snip
If the greenies had persuaded them to over-invest in cheap renewable generation, they wouldn\'t need to charge high volume consumers more for consuming more power, so presumably they haven\'t. In fact it takes time and money to buy and install new generating plant, and while the old fossil-carbon fueled year is still working it makes sense to squeeze it for some last dregs of output, particularly when the sun isn\'t shining and the wind isn\'t blowing. If they hadn\'t invested much - so far - in pumped storage and grid-scale batteries, they wouldn\'t have a lot of choice.

The greenies have been less vocal about pumped storage and grid batteries, which is bit silly, but the argument for that investment is less obvious, and people like Gnatguy can\'t understand it at all.

Hey Bill, \"renewables\" are also known as UNRELIABLES - they can\'t be depended upon (just ask the Brits).

They aren\'t. They are intermittent sources but the sun rises pretty reliably every day. You do need grid storage to bridge the gaps, and we haven\'t got enough of that yet. We do know that your failing mind can\'t grasp this idea, and there\'s no need for you to remind us that your senile dementia is getting worse.

Intermittent = UNRELIABLE.

So plants can\'t be relied to grow and feed us? Grow up.

HA HA HA HA!!! Hey Bozo, are you FUCKING SERIOUS??? Since when do PLANTS provide any power?????

Every time you stand up you do it by expending power derived from eating plants - either directly, when you yourself ate the plants involved - or indirectly when you have eaten animals that were fed by plants. Even the fossil carbon you are so enthusiastic about burning for fuel started off as plants, a very long time ago.
Neither sunlight or wind is predictable. Just look at the short term variation of both.

But the long term variation - which is what matters - is a lot smaller. You have to scale your storage to match the expected - and largely predictable - variation, but that\'s something you can design for, if you have enough sense to comprehend what\'s going on, which you clearly don\'t. You are far gone in dementia.

Hey Bozo, LONG TERM we are all DEAD!!!!!!! We need resources BEFORE THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The sun comes up every day. We could hope that you would be dead before then, but we are unlikely to be quite that lucky.

Grid storage is aimed at bridging relatively short intervals - from one day to the next - or over a couple of days of bad weather at most. If you had a working brain you\'d adjust your rhetoric to reflect that obvious reality, but instead you recycle a line that may have worked for John Maynard Keynes, but doesn\'t work in this context.

Hey Bill, forget about storage for days, they can\'t even store energy for HOURS! Show me ANY utility level battery system that can store energy for days.

They all do. Pumped hydroelectric storage can store energy for years. The Hornsdale grid scale battery in South Australia is build with electric car batteries off Tesla\'s production line. Electric cars lose about 2% of 3% of their stored charge per month. Vanadium flow cells should do even better.

Making them big enough to supply the whole grid on their own would be a different problem., but it isn\'t one we need to solve.

The green hydrogen enthusiasts figure that we can store big enough volumes of liquid hydrogen to do that job, but that does throw away 75% of the energy used to create the liquid hydrogen. Batteries and pumped storage only throw away about 15%.

Hey, how much pumped storage is there and is it scalable to the size required? I doubt it.

So does everybody else. That\'s why there\'s so much interest in grid scale batteries. When we fully go over to electric cars the batteries in the parked cars could supply something like three times the full grid output, if not for all that long, so it is clearly capable of scaling up to the power output required.

Vanadium flow batteries would probably be a better solution, but they aren\'t yet manufactured in that kind of volume
Also, it is located far away from the load and generation, requiring transmission lines.
We\'ve got them and can build more.
And you NEVER answered the critical question: HOW MUCH do transmission lines COST PER MILE???
Since you didn\'t specify the amount of power to be transmitted or the nature of the terrain over which the line has to run, it wasn\'t a well-formulated question.

A 500kV direct current link is more expensive per mile than an 11kV AC local link.

Do some more work on finding out the sort of questions you ought to be asking, and don\'t come back until you can do better.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Well, DUH, Bozo, you MUST tell us what EACH type of transmission line costs, which you STILL refuse to do.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:02:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 6:44:49 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 8:38:41 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

... the critical question: HOW MUCH do transmission lines COST PER MILE???

That\'s easy; cat5 wire has four transmission lines, and Digikey has it for circa $1 per foot,
so... a kilobuck or so.

As for power transmission, that depends on terrain, capacity, etc. It would have to
be determined by asking for engineering outfits to submit bids.

I would call you a fucking idiot, but you have not yet achieved that level of intelligence.

Gnatguy does like calling other people idiots. He is an idiot and a lot people must have pointed it out to him - not just here.

He\'s enough of an idiot to think that he can apply the same description to people who are clearly smarter than he is - and pretty much everybody is , with the possible exception of a a. Pity about that.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:03:52 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 10:51:37 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:38:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:55:10 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 2:05:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 3:28:14 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 4:08:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:00:09 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:19:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 1:38:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 4:25:17 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:01:15 PM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 9/12/2022 7:28 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:44:14 PM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 9/11/2022 9:04 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:50:57 AM UTC+10, amdx wrote:
On 8/26/2022 2:58 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 4:39:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 10:09:27 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 2:20:39 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 9:01:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 12:57:03 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 5:45:17 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 9:39:26 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

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> Well, DUH, you MUST tell us what EACH type of transmission line costs, which you STILL refuse to do.

I don\'t have to tell you anything. It\'s a complete waste of time to tell you anything, because you can\'t or won\'t understand what you do get told, and always tell us that the information provided is not what you asked for.

The prospect of compiling a complete list of every possible power transmission line and what they might cost per mile over every possible type of terrain, is trifle daunting and I doubt that s.e.d. would be the right place to try to publish it.

Only a complete idiot like you would make such a fatuous demand.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney