More evidence that China is lying BIG TIME about the extent

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 10:45:34 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:40:30 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:38:53 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

It was Pres. Trump's decisive action in banning travel from China that saved us from a much worse fate.

Yeah, maybe, but... it was travel to and from NY city that produced the biggest cluster,
and he wasn't on top of the situation internally (which does matter), rather left that
to the states and municipalities... perhaps not wisely.

> I see that you are in complete denial - the infection came from China, not NY.

Complete? Did the 'maybe' word entirely vanish from your screen, or are you jumping to irrelevant
and dismissive conclusions without reason ?

Have you ever examined the Quicksort algorithm? To complete a sorting operation, basically
all adjacent items in the list have to be less than the previous and more than the subsequent item.
Fastest way to do that, is to mix long-jump tests and transfers with short-jump transfers, i.e. to
have a mixture of short and long hops.

Well, short hops in air/rail/auto travel (inside the US) for spring break, and Mardi Gras, moved
lots of folk through shared accommodations and crowded travel nodes, and the
result was a BIG boost in the figures in later weeks. The infection was already out
of China when air travel there was constrained, but it didn't have to contaminate the
ports (Seattle, New York) where fresh-from-China folk were present, AND
every college that had a flood of disease vectors leaving for break and coming back
with a new virus.

Just as in Quicksort, the combination of long transfers (to port cities, basically on the borders)
and short ones (to every conference or party town with seasonal traffic) is going to
be the fast way to spread things. First it hits the airline hubs, then all the local
airfields...

The hotelier in the oval office forgot about the implications of internal travel but
was insistent on blaming foreigners. He forgot (or didn't think) to constrain
internal mixing as well.
 
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 4:02:03 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 10:45:34 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:40:30 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:38:53 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

It was Pres. Trump's decisive action in banning travel from China that saved us from a much worse fate.

Yeah, maybe, but... it was travel to and from NY city that produced the biggest cluster,
and he wasn't on top of the situation internally (which does matter), rather left that
to the states and municipalities... perhaps not wisely.


I see that you are in complete denial - the infection came from China, not NY.

Complete? Did the 'maybe' word entirely vanish from your screen, or are you jumping to irrelevant
and dismissive conclusions without reason ?

Have you ever examined the Quicksort algorithm? To complete a sorting operation, basically
all adjacent items in the list have to be less than the previous and more than the subsequent item.
Fastest way to do that, is to mix long-jump tests and transfers with short-jump transfers, i.e. to
have a mixture of short and long hops.

Well, short hops in air/rail/auto travel (inside the US) for spring break, and Mardi Gras, moved
lots of folk through shared accommodations and crowded travel nodes, and the
result was a BIG boost in the figures in later weeks. The infection was already out
of China when air travel there was constrained, but it didn't have to contaminate the
ports (Seattle, New York) where fresh-from-China folk were present, AND
every college that had a flood of disease vectors leaving for break and coming back
with a new virus.

Just as in Quicksort, the combination of long transfers (to port cities, basically on the borders)
and short ones (to every conference or party town with seasonal traffic) is going to
be the fast way to spread things. First it hits the airline hubs, then all the local
airfields...

The hotelier in the oval office forgot about the implications of internal travel but
was insistent on blaming foreigners. He forgot (or didn't think) to constrain
internal mixing as well.

I thought this was about COVID-19, not sorting algorithms. You ARE in denial - COVID-19 was not created here, it came from China. It spread here faster in some places than in others. Where I live, WA, was the first reported death to COVID, yet the spread is NOTHING compared to NY. But WA and NY have something in common: the virus for both came from China.
 
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 3:08:24 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 4:02:03 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 10:45:34 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:40:30 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:38:53 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

It was Pres. Trump's decisive action in banning travel from China that saved us from a much worse fate.

Yeah, maybe, but... it was travel to and from NY city that produced the biggest cluster,
and he wasn't on top of the situation internally (which does matter), rather left that
to the states and municipalities... perhaps not wisely.


I see that you are in complete denial - the infection came from China, not NY.

Complete? Did the 'maybe' word entirely vanish from your screen, or are you jumping to irrelevant
and dismissive conclusions without reason ?

Have you ever examined the Quicksort algorithm? To complete a sorting operation, basically
all adjacent items in the list have to be less than the previous and more than the subsequent item.
Fastest way to do that, is to mix long-jump tests and transfers with short-jump transfers, i.e. to
have a mixture of short and long hops.

Well, short hops in air/rail/auto travel (inside the US) for spring break, and Mardi Gras, moved
lots of folk through shared accommodations and crowded travel nodes, and the
result was a BIG boost in the figures in later weeks. The infection was already out
of China when air travel there was constrained, but it didn't have to contaminate the
ports (Seattle, New York) where fresh-from-China folk were present, AND
every college that had a flood of disease vectors leaving for break and coming back
with a new virus.

Just as in Quicksort, the combination of long transfers (to port cities, basically on the borders)
and short ones (to every conference or party town with seasonal traffic) is going to
be the fast way to spread things. First it hits the airline hubs, then all the local
airfields...

The hotelier in the oval office forgot about the implications of internal travel but
was insistent on blaming foreigners. He forgot (or didn't think) to constrain
internal mixing as well.

I thought this was about COVID-19, not sorting algorithms.

You can't think, so you can't see the connection.

> You ARE in denial - COVID-19 was not created here, it came from China. It spread here faster in some places than in others. Where I live, WA, was the first reported death to COVID, yet the spread is NOTHING compared to NY. But WA and NY have something in common: the virus for both came from China.

But it isn't any kind of useful observation. Once you had patient zero in New York State and Washington State, what mattered was how many other people they passed it onto - the R value.

You can change society so that the R value is less than R0 - and New York with one big city - New York - which is heavily reliant on public transport was always going to have a higher R0 than Seattle.

We've yet to see any recognition from you that the virus is transmitted from one person to another, or that the R value captures anything important about that process.

Your interest is confined to how many people are infected at any given moment.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 10:08:24 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

> I thought this was about COVID-19, not sorting algorithms. You ARE in denial - COVID-19 was not created here, it came from China.

It seems to have come out of China, but it was created in the lungs of a bat.
Who knows where that happened? I don't. Not important at all.

As for sorting algorithms, quicksort is an example of percolation in a large set happening
very fast; it IS relevant. Knuth's 'The Art of Computer Programming
volume 3: Sorting and Seatching' book is an interesting
volume, pick it up and do some reading.

Me, in denial? Certainly not!
 
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

You seem to be the one living in a demented fantasy land, one in which Trump has some faint chance of re-election.

YAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNNNNN...

Your insults are SO repetitious and BORING - someone of higher intelligence would come up with new material.

Why would I waste it on you? That wasn't an insult, incidentally, but a simple statement of fact. That is exactly what you look like from my point of view.

I'm aware that it isn't a point of view you share, and the interesting question is how many other peculiarly retarded half-wits do share you point of view.

We will find out in November, if the US sense of self-preservation hasn't kicked in before then.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

It WAS an insult, albeit a VERY POOR insult, but an insult nonetheless. If it wasn't, then you MUST have data to back it up, which you don't of course.
 
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

You seem to be the one living in a demented fantasy land, one in which Trump has some faint chance of re-election.

YAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNNNNN...

Your insults are SO repetitious and BORING - someone of higher intelligence would come up with new material.

Why would I waste it on you? That wasn't an insult, incidentally, but a simple statement of fact. That is exactly what you look like from my point of view.

I'm aware that it isn't a point of view you share, and the interesting question is how many other peculiarly retarded half-wits do share you point of view.

We will find out in November, if the US sense of self-preservation hasn't kicked in before then.

It WAS an insult, albeit a VERY POOR insult, but an insult nonetheless. If it wasn't, then you MUST have data to back it up, which you don't of course.

You choose to interpret it as an insult, which isn't unexpected, but nobody is going to get too worried about what you think.

There's only one way of getting data to back up an opinion about who is going to get elected in November, and time machines are thin on the ground.

Everybody is entitled to have an opinion about who is going to get elected in November, but some opinions are less credible than others. Yours would be one of the less credible sets of opinions around, simply because you don't seem to know what constitutes "evidence" and "data".

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

You seem to be the one living in a demented fantasy land, one in which Trump has some faint chance of re-election.

YAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNNNNN...

Your insults are SO repetitious and BORING - someone of higher intelligence would come up with new material.

Why would I waste it on you? That wasn't an insult, incidentally, but a simple statement of fact. That is exactly what you look like from my point of view.

I'm aware that it isn't a point of view you share, and the interesting question is how many other peculiarly retarded half-wits do share you point of view.

We will find out in November, if the US sense of self-preservation hasn't kicked in before then.

It WAS an insult, albeit a VERY POOR insult, but an insult nonetheless. If it wasn't, then you MUST have data to back it up, which you don't of course.

You choose to interpret it as an insult, which isn't unexpected, but nobody is going to get too worried about what you think.

There's only one way of getting data to back up an opinion about who is going to get elected in November, and time machines are thin on the ground.

Everybody is entitled to have an opinion about who is going to get elected in November, but some opinions are less credible than others. Yours would be one of the less credible sets of opinions around, simply because you don't seem to know what constitutes "evidence" and "data".

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Hey, you can't even SPELL your insults properly, they are SO BAD!
 
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 2:26:32 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

You seem to be the one living in a demented fantasy land, one in which Trump has some faint chance of re-election.

YAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNNNNN...

Your insults are SO repetitious and BORING - someone of higher intelligence would come up with new material.

Why would I waste it on you? That wasn't an insult, incidentally, but a simple statement of fact. That is exactly what you look like from my point of view.

I'm aware that it isn't a point of view you share, and the interesting question is how many other peculiarly retarded half-wits do share you point of view.

We will find out in November, if the US sense of self-preservation hasn't kicked in before then.

It WAS an insult, albeit a VERY POOR insult, but an insult nonetheless. If it wasn't, then you MUST have data to back it up, which you don't of course.

You choose to interpret it as an insult, which isn't unexpected, but nobody is going to get too worried about what you think.

There's only one way of getting data to back up an opinion about who is going to get elected in November, and time machines are thin on the ground..

Everybody is entitled to have an opinion about who is going to get elected in November, but some opinions are less credible than others. Yours would be one of the less credible sets of opinions around, simply because you don't seem to know what constitutes "evidence" and "data".

Hey, you can't even SPELL your insults properly, they are SO BAD!

And Flyguy hasn't bothered to tell us which part of my comment was misspelled, which does point up the fact that he doesn't know what constitutes evidence.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:56:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 2:26:32 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

You seem to be the one living in a demented fantasy land, one in which Trump has some faint chance of re-election.

YAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNNNNN...

Your insults are SO repetitious and BORING - someone of higher intelligence would come up with new material.

Why would I waste it on you? That wasn't an insult, incidentally, but a simple statement of fact. That is exactly what you look like from my point of view.

I'm aware that it isn't a point of view you share, and the interesting question is how many other peculiarly retarded half-wits do share you point of view.

We will find out in November, if the US sense of self-preservation hasn't kicked in before then.

It WAS an insult, albeit a VERY POOR insult, but an insult nonetheless. If it wasn't, then you MUST have data to back it up, which you don't of course.

You choose to interpret it as an insult, which isn't unexpected, but nobody is going to get too worried about what you think.

There's only one way of getting data to back up an opinion about who is going to get elected in November, and time machines are thin on the ground.

Everybody is entitled to have an opinion about who is going to get elected in November, but some opinions are less credible than others. Yours would be one of the less credible sets of opinions around, simply because you don't seem to know what constitutes "evidence" and "data".

Hey, you can't even SPELL your insults properly, they are SO BAD!

And Flyguy hasn't bothered to tell us which part of my comment was misspelled, which does point up the fact that he doesn't know what constitutes evidence.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Hey Slow Man, you can't spell STUPD!
 
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:20:27 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:56:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 2:26:32 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

<snip>

> Hey Slow Man, you can't spell STUPD!

Sure I can. FLYGUY.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:15:42 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

The Chicomm lovers of the world (i.e. Sloman) will have to come to grip with the fact that China is totally lying about what is happening in the country. I reported earlier that there has been an unprecedented number of cell phone disconnects in China (21 million). Now, funeral homes in Wuhan have markedly increased their orders of urns:

https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid-19-death-toll-may-tens-thousands-data-cremations-shipments-urns-suggest-1494914

And this is just Wuhan - millions left the city after the lockdown was announced. No doubt that many of these have spread the disease to other parts of the country. China is likely looking a millions of deaths to COVID before this is over.

The Chinese Government has FOOLED you!

https://youtu.be/KQaNdTKQyLY



serpentza
667K subscribers

Are you convinced that China has this pandemic under control, are you
looking to China for guidance when dealing with this pandemic? Let me
help pull the wool from your eyes...
 
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 2:37:50 AM UTC-4, boB wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:15:42 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

The Chicomm lovers of the world (i.e. Sloman) will have to come to grip with the fact that China is totally lying about what is happening in the country. I reported earlier that there has been an unprecedented number of cell phone disconnects in China (21 million). Now, funeral homes in Wuhan have markedly increased their orders of urns:

https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid-19-death-toll-may-tens-thousands-data-cremations-shipments-urns-suggest-1494914

And this is just Wuhan - millions left the city after the lockdown was announced. No doubt that many of these have spread the disease to other parts of the country. China is likely looking a millions of deaths to COVID before this is over.



The Chinese Government has FOOLED you!

https://youtu.be/KQaNdTKQyLY



serpentza
667K subscribers

Are you convinced that China has this pandemic under control, are you
looking to China for guidance when dealing with this pandemic? Let me
help pull the wool from your eyes...

I watched about half of this and it has nothing to do with the pandemic. It is about Chinese racism against foreigners. What wool is this talking about???

Everything in the video I saw was about how the Chinese are being hyper-vigilent and of course also racist, but the point is there's nothing about how they are "lying" about the infection rates, etc.

So yeah, I think the Chinese have this disease under control.

--

Rick C.

--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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On 2020-04-11, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:15:42 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

The Chicomm lovers of the world (i.e. Sloman) will have to come to grip with the fact that China is totally lying about what is happening in the country. I reported earlier that there has been an unprecedented number of cell phone disconnects in China (21 million). Now, funeral homes in Wuhan have markedly increased their orders of urns:

https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid-19-death-toll-may-tens-thousands-data-cremations-shipments-urns-suggest-1494914

And this is just Wuhan - millions left the city after the lockdown was announced. No doubt that many of these have spread the disease to other parts of the country. China is likely looking a millions of deaths to COVID before this is over.



The Chinese Government has FOOLED you!

https://youtu.be/KQaNdTKQyLY

rubbish: 20% hype, 5% irrelevant hearsay annecdotes, (75% unwatched),


--
Jasen.
 
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:25:09 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:20:27 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:56:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 2:26:32 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Hey Slow Man, you can't spell STUPD!

Sure I can. FLYGUY.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Nope, you didn't, Slow Man.
 
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:25:09 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:20:27 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:56:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 2:26:32 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Hey Slow Man, you can't spell STUPD!

Sure I can. FLYGUY.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Nope, you didn't, Slow Man.

This is the smoking gun that the Chicomms were lying:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/
 
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 9:03:23 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:50:02 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:25:09 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:20:27 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:56:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 2:26:32 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Hey Slow Man, you can't spell STUPD!

Sure I can. FLYGUY.

Nope, you didn't, Sloman.

Dream on.

This is the smoking gun that the Chicomms were lying:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

This is one more smoking gun that demonstrates that Flyguy doesn't know what he is talking about. The State Department might have had legitimate anxieties about the levels of containment in a Chinese biology lab, but it's a long stretch from there to claim that everything that China is saying about Covid-19 is uniformly unreliable.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Hey Slow Man, you WISH! You are SO SLOW that you would have claimed that Pearl Harbor was caused by FRIENDLY FIRE!
 
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 9:18:07 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 9:03:23 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:50:02 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:25:09 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:20:27 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:56:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 2:26:32 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Hey Slow Man, you can't spell STUPD!

Sure I can. FLYGUY.

Nope, you didn't, Sloman.

Dream on.

This is the smoking gun that the Chicomms were lying:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

This is one more smoking gun that demonstrates that Flyguy doesn't know what he is talking about. The State Department might have had legitimate anxieties about the levels of containment in a Chinese biology lab, but it's a long stretch from there to claim that everything that China is saying about Covid-19 is uniformly unreliable.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Hey Slow Man, you WISH! You are SO SLOW that you would have claimed that Pearl Harbor was caused by FRIENDLY FIRE!

China was "praised" for publishing the COVID-19 genome. What people don't know, or don't CARE to know, is that the lab that published the genome was SHUT DOWN for no reason!

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052966/chinese-laboratory-first-shared-coronavirus-genome-world-ordered
 
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:50:02 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:25:09 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:20:27 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:56:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 2:26:32 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Hey Slow Man, you can't spell STUPD!

Sure I can. FLYGUY.

Nope, you didn't, Sloman.

Dream on.

This is the smoking gun that the Chicomms were lying:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

This is one more smoking gun that demonstrates that Flyguy doesn't know what he is talking about. The State Department might have had legitimate anxieties about the levels of containment in a Chinese biology lab, but it's a long stretch from there to claim that everything that China is saying about Covid-19 is uniformly unreliable.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 2:18:07 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 9:03:23 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:50:02 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:25:09 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:20:27 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:56:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 2:26:32 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Hey Slow Man, you can't spell STUPD!

Sure I can. FLYGUY.

Nope, you didn't, Sloman.

Dream on.

This is the smoking gun that the Chicomms were lying:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

This is one more smoking gun that demonstrates that Flyguy doesn't know what he is talking about. The State Department might have had legitimate anxieties about the levels of containment in a Chinese biology lab, but it's a long stretch from there to claim that everything that China is saying about Covid-19 is uniformly unreliable.

Hey Sloman, you WISH! You are SO SLOW that you would have claimed that Pearl Harbor was caused by FRIENDLY FIRE!

Flyguy does go in for extravagant inventions. He's not really up to inventing that for himself, but probably stole it from the stories about Pearl Harbor where US anti-aircraft fire ended up killing quite a few US civilians.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 10:50:02 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:25:09 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:20:27 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:56:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 2:26:32 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:16:53 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:30:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:47:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:38:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:09:54 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:07:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:42:29 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, speff wrote:
On Monday, 30 March 2020 13:15:50 UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Hey Slow Man, you can't spell STUPD!

Sure I can. FLYGUY.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Nope, you didn't, Slow Man.

This is the smoking gun that the Chicomms were lying:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

Very interesting article.

Just to be clear, these documents seem to indicate US lab experts visited the labs in Wuhan and found safety problems which they requested assistance from the US government to help deal with. The Chinese requested help with the labs. The US government at the time provided no assistance.

"The Chinese researchers at WIV were receiving assistance from the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas Medical Branch and other U..S. organizations, but the Chinese requested additional help. The cables argued that the United States should give the Wuhan lab further support, mainly because its research on bat coronaviruses was important but also dangerous."

"The Chinese researchers at WIV were receiving assistance from the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas Medical Branch and other U..S. organizations, but the Chinese requested additional help."

"No extra assistance to the labs was provided by the U.S. government in response to these cables."

So the Trump administration had an opportunity to possibly help prevent this pandemic and did nothing.

Not sure this can be blamed entirely on the Chinese even if it is true.

--

Rick C.

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