more \"American\" cheese...

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:06:07 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 13:14:02 -0700 (PDT), John Walliker <jrwal...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 16 June 2023 at 18:54:19 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:29:10 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:51:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

USA bashing is popular here, even though the USA invented most
electronic stuff. Tubes, transistors, ICs, IR LEDs, uPs, ethernet,
internet, email, stuff like that.

I have never gone in for USA bashing, but I think some of those claims are
debatable.
First vacuum tube: Fleming, UK, 1904
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleming_valve
Edison effect, but no gain.
Also, first cavity magnetron: Randall & Boot, UK, 1940

First computer: Depending on how you define a computer, UK is well placed

First packet switched computer network, which led to ARPAnet and then the internet:
NPL, UK around 1970.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPL_network

Don\'t forget optical fibre communication:
https://opticalfibrehistory.co.uk/
https://digital-library.theiet.org/docserver/fulltext/piee/113/7/19660189.pdf?expires=1686947071&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=DF8AEF16261BDAB5BE4B2E6389D340D4

Sure, the brits sometimes invent things. Not so often these days.

US invention does seem to be flagging too. Bells labs has gone the same way as EMI Central Research, who invent the brain scanner and colour television. For some reason the US court found that the RCA version of colour televison was different - sine-cos modulation was different from quadrature modulation in their eyes.

ARM was cool, but they sold it off, and RISC-V will probably take over.

My kid made the mistake of buying a Range Rover. That\'s another sad story.

The Range Rover wasn\'t any kind of invention.

If you want blue skies research Europe is probably the place to get it at the moment. China is training more technologists, but mostly overseas and the good ones tend to get bribed to stay - though the example I ran into in England eventually got bribed to move to California. with his family.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney