more \"American\" cheese...

[ehsjr]

On 6/15/2023 5:26 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2023-06-14 21:19, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep
their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.


Good English cooking is amazing--trouble is, they don\'t seem to do it in
England anymore.

Me old Mum used to make many sorts of that stuff--several varieties of
meat pies (all delicious except for those containing kidneys), roasts,
chops, cakes, biscuits, plus tons of good vegetables and salads.

English sausages are also good, though the Irish and Scots have taken
the running there. And then there are the puddings. There\'s no end of
delicious English puddings, and no, they aren\'t the thickened-milk kind
you get over here. The English used to have a national genius for
imaginative uses of ginger, sugar, and dried fruit.

And breadcrumbs. Breadcrumbs are key.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Don\'t forget Scones! Yum.

Ed

 

[Phil Hobbs]

ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:

On 6/15/2023 5:26 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

sniiip

The English used to have a national genius for
imaginative uses of ginger, sugar, and dried fruit.

And breadcrumbs. Breadcrumbs are key.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs




Don\'t forget Scones! Yum.

Ed

And custard.

But not trifle. Trifle only escapes being a crime against humanity because
it’s usually nonlethal, at least in the short term.


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 22:05:15 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-15 17:56, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 21:26:53 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2023-06-14 21:19, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep
their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.


Good English cooking is amazing--trouble is, they don\'t seem to do it in
England anymore.

Me old Mum used to make many sorts of that stuff--several varieties of
meat pies (all delicious except for those containing kidneys), roasts,
chops, cakes, biscuits, plus tons of good vegetables and salads.

English sausages are also good, though the Irish and Scots have taken
the running there. And then there are the puddings. There\'s no end of
delicious English puddings, and no, they aren\'t the thickened-milk kind
you get over here. The English used to have a national genius for
imaginative uses of ginger, sugar, and dried fruit.

And breadcrumbs. Breadcrumbs are key.

Panko-crusted fried shrimp sliders are wonderful, but you don\'t like
shrimp.

A couple of years ago I joined the Orthodox Church, having been an
atheist for the first 30 years of my life and an Anglican for the next
30, give or take. We have a lot of fast days, nearly half the year,
and for most of them we give up meat, fish, eggs, dairy, olive oil, and
wine. (Often but not always interpreted to include all kinds of
alcohol.)

The Church doesn\'t demand that we do this, nor does she criticize those
who don\'t. (Lots of folks aren\'t very strict about it.) Fasting is
offered as an opportunity for spiritual growth, for our salvation and
the salvation of others.

Proper fasting is accompanied by intensified prayer and almsgiving, and
hedged about with warnings about the dangers of doing it wrong, such as
falling into pride, condemnation of our brothers who may not be very
strict about it, or even just being a pain in the ass when people offer
us food. (The saints generally just eat what\'s put in front of them,
with gratitude.)

Failure to fast isn\'t a sin, only a missed opportunity.

There are a few bits of relief from this arid semi-vista of teetotal
veganism, one of which is that shellfish are allowed.

All of which is a very long-winded way of saying that I\'ve recently come
round to fried shrimp, but not yet to oysters, scallops, or shrimp in
sauce.

Yay!

Two plastic bins, one flour and milk, the other panko and garlic
powder and salt and pepper.

Slather shrimp in the white goo, shake in the panko, deep fry, serve
on little Hawaiian buns with tater tots and beer.

Trust me on that one.

The Big Bird sandwich at the Bar Of America in Truckee is world-class.
Chicken breaded with Rice Crispies.

Fun.

I wonder if WWII rationing killed british food, or if it was always
that way.

I wasn\'t there, but I suspect it was the ridiculously prolonged food
rationing--it didn\'t relax until 1954 and crippled the dairy industry
for decades after that--with the officious nannyism that apparently
continues to this day. English food of the good old pre-war variety is
amazing, as I said.

With France so close, you\'d think they might see possibilities.

For good or ill.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 22:22:33 -0400, ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:

On 6/15/2023 5:26 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2023-06-14 21:19, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep
their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.


Good English cooking is amazing--trouble is, they don\'t seem to do it in
England anymore.

Me old Mum used to make many sorts of that stuff--several varieties of
meat pies (all delicious except for those containing kidneys), roasts,
chops, cakes, biscuits, plus tons of good vegetables and salads.

English sausages are also good, though the Irish and Scots have taken
the running there. And then there are the puddings. There\'s no end of
delicious English puddings, and no, they aren\'t the thickened-milk kind
you get over here. The English used to have a national genius for
imaginative uses of ginger, sugar, and dried fruit.

And breadcrumbs. Breadcrumbs are key.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs




Don\'t forget Scones! Yum.

Ed

Too British. Biscuits are better.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/iqaexebp49lamb0/AAD5Tfs27hmw3lN6yWYKssPea?dl=0

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 6:19:34 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 2:18:56?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway? It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts and bagels. The deli and sushi are pretty
good. Basic fruits and veggies are OK. I can drive there in 4 minutes,
there\'s always parking, or I can hike through the canyon up there with
a backpack.

Diamond Heights. Check it on Google Earth.

The contrast between the somewhat non-industrial display with the industrial stacking of product on top of it is mentally disturbing, even if you\'re not consciously aware of it. Safeway is doing its part to make people insane.

Fat maybe, happy certainly, not insane.

Not a subject where John Larkin is a reliable witness.

It\'s great to be able to drive or walk a short way and get food and paper towels and stuff. There\'s a Walgreens next door for things like drugs and office supplies. And a post office and a vet.

I think modern civilization is pretty cool. Why are you so grumpy and negative? If you dislike supermarkets, don\'t go there.

John Larkin\'s idea of what might constitute modern civilisation are about as reliable as his ideas - which is to say other people\'s bad ideas which he has uncritically adopted - about climate change.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 7:57:05 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 21:26:53 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2023-06-14 21:19, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian restaurant in Oxford.

Good English cooking is amazing--trouble is, they don\'t seem to do it in England anymore.

When I moved to England I bought a copy of the Good Food Guide, and bought the new one every year.

There is good cooking in the UK and you don\'t have to work hard to find it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heston_Blumenthal

isn\'t exactly a role model - anybody who uses liquid nitrogen in the kitchen is a show-boat - but my wife got to eat in one of his resaurants adn was favourably impressed (if less so that by El Bulli in Spain)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Bulli

<snipped down market dishes>

> I wonder if WWII rationing killed British food, or if it was always that way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Johnson

once said \"A dinner? Perhaps, but not a dinner to invite a man to\".

The English have always known about good food, but few of them insist on it.. You don\'t have to look hard to find it, but Americans can\'t be expected to know where to look.

> With France so close, you\'d think they might see possibilities.

Some of them always have,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_David

I much preferred Julia Child as a food writer, but Elizabeth David\'s food books sold well in the UK.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Martin Brown]

On 15/06/2023 02:19, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

Probably because of the effect it has on the cardiovascular system.
Creme filled donuts are the quick way to diabetes and heart attack.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.

\"Good\" in Ameri-speak means more food that two normal healthy people can
possibly eat at one sitting served to each person.

There are plenty of good restaurants and bistros in the UK - not as many
as in Belgium, France or Japan though. There was a time when UK catering
was often a bit rubbish but those days are now long gone.

You just have to avoid the likes of KFC, McD, Wimpey and Wetherspoons
and/or ask locals for recommendations for where to eat.

--
Martin Brown

 

[legg]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 09:34:06 +0100, Martin Brown
<\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 15/06/2023 02:19, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

Probably because of the effect it has on the cardiovascular system.
Creme filled donuts are the quick way to diabetes and heart attack.

A donut a week will probably extend your life span, from the pleasure
effect.

Whatever you do, never eat eggs.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.

\"Good\" in Ameri-speak means more food that two normal healthy people can
possibly eat at one sitting served to each person.

It\'s interesting how so many people fabricate nonsense about America
so they can deplore it. Their actual concern is that the USA might be
as good as they fear. It is.

Sometimes we get big portions, so Mo and I split an entree, or we get
to-go boxes. We don\'t eat a lot so one entree might become two or
three meals. I hear that some cultures disdain taking leftovers to-go.

There are plenty of good restaurants and bistros in the UK - not as many
as in Belgium, France or Japan though. There was a time when UK catering
was often a bit rubbish but those days are now long gone.

The food in Hamamatsu was fabulous. Our hosts loved to take us out
because \"we can\'t afford that ourselves.\" Imagine unagi steaks the
size of hamburgers.

We had an occasional VIP visitor from Hamamatsu Photonics, and when he
came to San Francisco he always wanted to go out for sushi at lunch.
\"It\'s so fresh, and we couldn\'t afford this at home.\"

You just have to avoid the likes of KFC, McD, Wimpey and Wetherspoons
and/or ask locals for recommendations for where to eat.

We drove around Ireland for a couple of weeks, mostly staying in small
towns and a few farm houses. The food was not very good, but we did
have some dynamite seafood on the SW coast.

We missed out on some pub food because the smoke inside was
unbearable. I think they may have fixed that now.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL

You don\'t like cheese, Rob?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who\'s from Vancouver, and doesn\'t like fish.)

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[legg]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:51:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL


You don\'t like cheese, Rob?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who\'s from Vancouver, and doesn\'t like fish.)

Haven\'t run across too many electronic applications, so far.

Mixed with macaroni, you can carve it into small votive
objects, dresser door knobs etc.

RL

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2023-06-16 11:29, legg wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:51:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL


You don\'t like cheese, Rob?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who\'s from Vancouver, and doesn\'t like fish.)

Haven\'t run across too many electronic applications, so far.

Mixed with macaroni, you can carve it into small votive
objects, dresser door knobs etc.

RL

You should maybe try some of those nice toasted MOSFETs of John\'s.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:32:39 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-16 11:29, legg wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:51:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL


You don\'t like cheese, Rob?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who\'s from Vancouver, and doesn\'t like fish.)

Haven\'t run across too many electronic applications, so far.

Mixed with macaroni, you can carve it into small votive
objects, dresser door knobs etc.

RL


You should maybe try some of those nice toasted MOSFETs of John\'s.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Good with a nice silicone oil dipping sauce.

 

[whit3rd]

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 1:38:50 PM UTC-7, Tabby wrote:

On Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 00:04:46 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller
They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?
IME many cheeses go off fast if not chilled. But if what they do works, ok

The ripening of a cheese is intrinsically a preservation technique.
The \'rancid yak butter\' of Tibet is one branch of the creamery\'s art, and
the blue mold of Gorgonzola is another. Neither is considered \'off\' because of that.
Unfermented beer isn\'t very tasty, either.

Warm, for serving, chilled for holding its ripeness...
and sometimes I want a store-bought Camembert to have a few extra days
on the counter to develop flavor.

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:29:10 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:51:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL


You don\'t like cheese, Rob?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who\'s from Vancouver, and doesn\'t like fish.)

Haven\'t run across too many electronic applications, so far.

Mixed with macaroni, you can carve it into small votive
objects, dresser door knobs etc.

RL

We had a thread drift up above that got into cheese, and someone
slagged the USA for having only orange slimy goo.

USA bashing is popular here, even though the USA invented most
electronic stuff. Tubes, transistors, ICs, IR LEDs, uPs, ethernet,
internet, email, stuff like that.

 

[John Walliker]

On Friday, 16 June 2023 at 18:54:19 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:29:10 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:51:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL


You don\'t like cheese, Rob?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who\'s from Vancouver, and doesn\'t like fish.)

Haven\'t run across too many electronic applications, so far.

Mixed with macaroni, you can carve it into small votive
objects, dresser door knobs etc.

RL
We had a thread drift up above that got into cheese, and someone
slagged the USA for having only orange slimy goo.

USA bashing is popular here, even though the USA invented most
electronic stuff. Tubes, transistors, ICs, IR LEDs, uPs, ethernet,
internet, email, stuff like that.

I have never gone in for USA bashing, but I think some of those claims are
debatable.
First vacuum tube: Fleming, UK, 1904
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleming_valve
Also, first cavity magnetron: Randall & Boot, UK, 1940

First computer: Depending on how you define a computer, UK is well placed

First packet switched computer network, which led to ARPAnet and then the internet:
NPL, UK around 1970.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPL_network

Don\'t forget optical fibre communication:
https://opticalfibrehistory.co.uk/
https://digital-library.theiet.org/docserver/fulltext/piee/113/7/19660189.pdf?expires=1686947071&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=DF8AEF16261BDAB5BE4B2E6389D340D4

John

 

[legg]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:53:54 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:29:10 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:51:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL


You don\'t like cheese, Rob?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who\'s from Vancouver, and doesn\'t like fish.)

Haven\'t run across too many electronic applications, so far.

Mixed with macaroni, you can carve it into small votive
objects, dresser door knobs etc.

RL

We had a thread drift up above that got into cheese, and someone
slagged the USA for having only orange slimy goo.

USA bashing is popular here, even though the USA invented most
electronic stuff. Tubes, transistors, ICs, IR LEDs, uPs, ethernet,
internet, email, stuff like that.

I guess it was only Kraft dinner and pizza pops on this side
of the border, with the insulin as a side dish.

USA didn\'t invent those things - it was bodies done it. but
the debt \'cieling\' used to be a hole.

Those were the days . . . tra la la.

RL

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 13:14:02 -0700 (PDT), John Walliker
<jrwalliker@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, 16 June 2023 at 18:54:19 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:29:10 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:51:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL


You don\'t like cheese, Rob?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who\'s from Vancouver, and doesn\'t like fish.)

Haven\'t run across too many electronic applications, so far.

Mixed with macaroni, you can carve it into small votive
objects, dresser door knobs etc.

RL
We had a thread drift up above that got into cheese, and someone
slagged the USA for having only orange slimy goo.

USA bashing is popular here, even though the USA invented most
electronic stuff. Tubes, transistors, ICs, IR LEDs, uPs, ethernet,
internet, email, stuff like that.

I have never gone in for USA bashing, but I think some of those claims are
debatable.
First vacuum tube: Fleming, UK, 1904
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleming_valve

Edison effect, but no gain.

Also, first cavity magnetron: Randall & Boot, UK, 1940

First computer: Depending on how you define a computer, UK is well placed

First packet switched computer network, which led to ARPAnet and then the internet:
NPL, UK around 1970.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPL_network

Don\'t forget optical fibre communication:
https://opticalfibrehistory.co.uk/
https://digital-library.theiet.org/docserver/fulltext/piee/113/7/19660189.pdf?expires=1686947071&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=DF8AEF16261BDAB5BE4B2E6389D340D4

John

Sure, the brits sometimes invent things. Not so often these days.

ARM was cool, but they sold it off, and RISC-V will probably take
over.

My kid made the mistake of buying a Range Rover. That\'s another sad
story.

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 16:20:48 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:53:54 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:29:10 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:51:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL


You don\'t like cheese, Rob?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who\'s from Vancouver, and doesn\'t like fish.)

Haven\'t run across too many electronic applications, so far.

Mixed with macaroni, you can carve it into small votive
objects, dresser door knobs etc.

RL

We had a thread drift up above that got into cheese, and someone
slagged the USA for having only orange slimy goo.

USA bashing is popular here, even though the USA invented most
electronic stuff. Tubes, transistors, ICs, IR LEDs, uPs, ethernet,
internet, email, stuff like that.


I guess it was only Kraft dinner and pizza pops on this side
of the border, with the insulin as a side dish.

You should import the good stuff.

USA didn\'t invent those things - it was bodies done it. but
the debt \'cieling\' used to be a hole.

Those were the days . . . tra la la.

RL

 

[Joe Gwinn]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 13:14:02 -0700 (PDT), John Walliker
<jrwalliker@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, 16 June 2023 at 18:54:19 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:29:10 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:51:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-16 08:26, legg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:48:08 -0700, John Larkin
jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Cheese?

Sheesh.

RL


You don\'t like cheese, Rob?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who\'s from Vancouver, and doesn\'t like fish.)

Haven\'t run across too many electronic applications, so far.

Mixed with macaroni, you can carve it into small votive
objects, dresser door knobs etc.

RL
We had a thread drift up above that got into cheese, and someone
slagged the USA for having only orange slimy goo.

USA bashing is popular here, even though the USA invented most
electronic stuff. Tubes, transistors, ICs, IR LEDs, uPs, ethernet,
internet, email, stuff like that.

I have never gone in for USA bashing, but I think some of those claims are
debatable.
First vacuum tube: Fleming, UK, 1904
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleming_valve
Also, first cavity magnetron: Randall & Boot, UK, 1940

First computer: Depending on how you define a computer, UK is well placed

First packet switched computer network, which led to ARPAnet and then the internet:
NPL, UK around 1970.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPL_network

Don\'t forget optical fibre communication:
https://opticalfibrehistory.co.uk/
https://digital-library.theiet.org/docserver/fulltext/piee/113/7/19660189.pdf?expires=1686947071&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=DF8AEF16261BDAB5BE4B2E6389D340D4

While the idea of fiber optics was invented in many places, it was
Corning that made it practical by figuring out how to manufacture
optical fiber for communications, with losses a few db per kilometer,
versus many db per meter.

Joe Gwinn