more \"American\" cheese...

[John Larkin]

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.

What\'s wrong with that Safeway? It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts and bagels. The deli and sushi are pretty
good. Basic fruits and veggies are OK. I can drive there in 4 minutes,
there\'s always parking, or I can hike through the canyon up there with
a backpack.

Diamond Heights. Check it on Google Earth.

 

[Tabby]

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?

It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.

It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 3:48:34 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheep\'s milk cheese, but that D\'argental is really good.

But it is French, not American. I can buy it in Australia. but Australia does perfectly respectable sheep and goats milk cheeses of its own.

https://www.harrisfarm.com.au/products/argental-cheese-vacherousse-washed-rind-cremx-88347

Harris Farrm has a branch just down the road.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Sjouke Burry]

On 15.06.23 3:19, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.

Peking duck with rice in Soho chinese shop in London.
Something never to forget.......

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-06-15 01:04, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?

In Spain (which is also a cheese producer) we do.


--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 2:18:56 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway? It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts and bagels. The deli and sushi are pretty
good. Basic fruits and veggies are OK. I can drive there in 4 minutes,
there\'s always parking, or I can hike through the canyon up there with
a backpack.

Diamond Heights. Check it on Google Earth.

The contrast between the somewhat non-industrial display with the industrial stacking of product on top of it is mentally disturbing, even if you\'re not consciously aware of it. Safeway is doing its part to make people insane..

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 2:18:56?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway? It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts and bagels. The deli and sushi are pretty
good. Basic fruits and veggies are OK. I can drive there in 4 minutes,
there\'s always parking, or I can hike through the canyon up there with
a backpack.

Diamond Heights. Check it on Google Earth.

The contrast between the somewhat non-industrial display with the industrial stacking of product on top of it is mentally disturbing, even if you\'re not consciously aware of it. Safeway is doing its part to make people insane.

Fat maybe, happy certainly, not insane.

It\'s great to be able to drive or walk a short way and get food and
paper towels and stuff. There\'s a Walgreens next door for things like
drugs and office supplies. And a post office and a vet.

I think modern civilization is pretty cool. Why are you so grumpy and
negative? If you dislike supermarkets, don\'t go there.

 

[Tabby]

On Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 00:04:46 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller
They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?

IME many cheeses go off fast if not chilled. But if what they do works, ok

It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected
You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Donots are a death sentence. They\'re even called do-nots to warn you.

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.

 

[Tabby]

On Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 02:20:21 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.

Sounds about right This is the land of low end food marketed as fancy.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 13:39:57 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 02:20:21 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.

Sounds about right This is the land of low end food marketed as fancy.

I went there for lunch with a Jewish nanotech VC guy whose wife
expected him to keep strict kosher. He took every opportunity to sneak
out and eat forbidden meats.

Remember the nanotech fad? AI reminds me of that.

Oxford was very cool, worth the time there even if it was a mild
financial negative.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 13:38:45 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 00:04:46 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller
They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?

IME many cheeses go off fast if not chilled. But if what they do works, ok

I don\'t think Safeway kills many of its customers. We would have
heard.

It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected
You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Donots are a death sentence. They\'re even called do-nots to warn you.

What\'s your complaint about grease and sugar and chocolate?

Die happy.

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2023-06-14 21:19, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.

Good English cooking is amazing--trouble is, they don\'t seem to do it in
England anymore.

Me old Mum used to make many sorts of that stuff--several varieties of
meat pies (all delicious except for those containing kidneys), roasts,
chops, cakes, biscuits, plus tons of good vegetables and salads.

English sausages are also good, though the Irish and Scots have taken
the running there. And then there are the puddings. There\'s no end of
delicious English puddings, and no, they aren\'t the thickened-milk kind
you get over here. The English used to have a national genius for
imaginative uses of ginger, sugar, and dried fruit.

Then there\'s the preserved fruit--brandied peaches, to name just one
kind among very many.

Round our shop, we still make a lot of roasts and a fair number of pies,
though there aren\'t as many round the table these days! We also make
our own mincemeat and plum pudding for Christmas time, based on family
recipes from the mid-19th century.

They\'ve had to be adjusted some--modern raisins (Sultanas especially)
make everything taste like tar if you just dump them into the old recipes.

Fancier stuff like game pies, jugged hare, and so on, really needs a
gentlemen\'s club with a good kitchen, but those really don\'t exist any more.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 21:19, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep
their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.


Good English cooking is amazing--trouble is, they don\'t seem to do it in
England anymore.

Me old Mum used to make many sorts of that stuff--several varieties of
meat pies (all delicious except for those containing kidneys), roasts,
chops, cakes, biscuits, plus tons of good vegetables and salads.

English sausages are also good, though the Irish and Scots have taken
the running there. And then there are the puddings. There\'s no end of
delicious English puddings, and no, they aren\'t the thickened-milk kind
you get over here. The English used to have a national genius for
imaginative uses of ginger, sugar, and dried fruit.

And breadcrumbs. Breadcrumbs are key.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs



--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 21:26:53 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2023-06-14 21:19, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep
their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.


Good English cooking is amazing--trouble is, they don\'t seem to do it in
England anymore.

Me old Mum used to make many sorts of that stuff--several varieties of
meat pies (all delicious except for those containing kidneys), roasts,
chops, cakes, biscuits, plus tons of good vegetables and salads.

English sausages are also good, though the Irish and Scots have taken
the running there. And then there are the puddings. There\'s no end of
delicious English puddings, and no, they aren\'t the thickened-milk kind
you get over here. The English used to have a national genius for
imaginative uses of ginger, sugar, and dried fruit.

And breadcrumbs. Breadcrumbs are key.

Panko-crusted fried shrimp sliders are wonderful, but you don\'t like
shrimp.

The Big Bird sandwich at the Bar Of America in Truckee is world-class.
Chicken breaded with Rice Crispies.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I wonder if WWII rationing killed british food, or if it was always
that way.

With France so close, you\'d think they might see possibilities.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2023-06-15 17:56, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 21:26:53 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2023-06-14 21:19, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:46:28 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-06-14 19:04, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 19:18:56 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:48:34?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2p5fs6eg7ayemhg/AACbGq7pEH-KCrVVFO16mIGka?dl=0

I added pics from the Safeway cheese island. Safeway is our giant
generic supermarket so doesn\'t have the exotica of the smaller markets
and cheese stores, but there\'s still a lot of good stuff.

We don\'t usually like sheeps milk cheese, but that D\'argental is
really good.

Looks like COSTCO. Safeway has really gone downhill if they keep
their stores like that.
What\'s wrong with that Safeway?

the cheeses aren\'t in a chiller

They are cold, some a/c trick somehow. And they have already been
aged, unrefrigerated, for months or sometimes years.

The packaging keeps molds off. If they were killing people, we\'d hear
about it. Do the French and Italians keep all their cheeses in
chillers?


It\'s clean and convenient and they
bake really good donuts

self contradiction detected

You don\'t like bagels? Donuts?

Their Boston Creme filled donut version is excellent. They call it a
\"Bismarck\" for some reason.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, I loved Boston Creme pies, which were
called \"Congo Pie\" down there. Nobody wanted to eat Yankee food.


It\'s very nice of you to give our English posters a few more
inconsequential things to moan about. Cheers them up no end.

I can recall one good meal in the UK. It was a little Italian
restaurant in Oxford.


Good English cooking is amazing--trouble is, they don\'t seem to do it in
England anymore.

Me old Mum used to make many sorts of that stuff--several varieties of
meat pies (all delicious except for those containing kidneys), roasts,
chops, cakes, biscuits, plus tons of good vegetables and salads.

English sausages are also good, though the Irish and Scots have taken
the running there. And then there are the puddings. There\'s no end of
delicious English puddings, and no, they aren\'t the thickened-milk kind
you get over here. The English used to have a national genius for
imaginative uses of ginger, sugar, and dried fruit.

And breadcrumbs. Breadcrumbs are key.

Panko-crusted fried shrimp sliders are wonderful, but you don\'t like
shrimp.

A couple of years ago I joined the Orthodox Church, having been an
atheist for the first 30 years of my life and an Anglican for the next
30, give or take. We have a lot of fast days, nearly half the year,
and for most of them we give up meat, fish, eggs, dairy, olive oil, and
wine. (Often but not always interpreted to include all kinds of
alcohol.)

The Church doesn\'t demand that we do this, nor does she criticize those
who don\'t. (Lots of folks aren\'t very strict about it.) Fasting is
offered as an opportunity for spiritual growth, for our salvation and
the salvation of others.

Proper fasting is accompanied by intensified prayer and almsgiving, and
hedged about with warnings about the dangers of doing it wrong, such as
falling into pride, condemnation of our brothers who may not be very
strict about it, or even just being a pain in the ass when people offer
us food. (The saints generally just eat what\'s put in front of them,
with gratitude.)

Failure to fast isn\'t a sin, only a missed opportunity.

There are a few bits of relief from this arid semi-vista of teetotal
veganism, one of which is that shellfish are allowed.

All of which is a very long-winded way of saying that I\'ve recently come
round to fried shrimp, but not yet to oysters, scallops, or shrimp in
sauce.

The Big Bird sandwich at the Bar Of America in Truckee is world-class.
Chicken breaded with Rice Crispies.

Fun.

I wonder if WWII rationing killed british food, or if it was always
that way.

I wasn\'t there, but I suspect it was the ridiculously prolonged food
rationing--it didn\'t relax until 1954 and crippled the dairy industry
for decades after that--with the officious nannyism that apparently
continues to this day. English food of the good old pre-war variety is
amazing, as I said.

> With France so close, you\'d think they might see possibilities.

For good or ill.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs