Math+ Protocol and no ventilators reduces CFR...

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:08:17 PM UTC+10, Anthony Stewart wrote:

On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 6:02 p.m., bitrex wrote:
Vigorous sex with attractive women 8-10 years younger than myself on the
regular.
There\'s no vaccine for Herpes. It\'s for life just suppressed with
antibiotics.

It\'s a viral infection. Antibiotics don\'t help, unless the sores get infected with bacteria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Tony Stewart]

On Fri. 14 Aug.-20 1:17 a.m., Bill Sloman wrote:

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:08:17 PM UTC+10, Anthony Stewart wrote:
On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 6:02 p.m., bitrex wrote:
Vigorous sex with attractive women 8-10 years younger than myself on the
regular.
There\'s no vaccine for Herpes. It\'s for life just suppressed with
antibiotics.

It\'s a viral infection. Antibiotics don\'t help, unless the sores get infected with bacteria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.

Bill being as presumptive as usual.

There is no cure for herpes. Antiviral medications can, however, prevent
or shorten outbreaks during the period of time the person takes the
medication

 

[Ricketty C]

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 2:05:53 AM UTC-4, Anthony Stewart wrote:

On Fri. 14 Aug.-20 1:17 a.m., Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:08:17 PM UTC+10, Anthony Stewart wrote:
On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 6:02 p.m., bitrex wrote:
Vigorous sex with attractive women 8-10 years younger than myself on the
regular.
There\'s no vaccine for Herpes. It\'s for life just suppressed with
antibiotics.

It\'s a viral infection. Antibiotics don\'t help, unless the sores get infected with bacteria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.




Bill being as presumptive as usual.

There is no cure for herpes. Antiviral medications can, however, prevent
or shorten outbreaks during the period of time the person takes the
medication

Jeez! You wrote \"antibiotics\" and now you are talking \"Antiviral\". His point is they are not at all the same. Nothing alike and zero overlap.

Do you ever learn from your errors here?

--

Rick C.

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[Tom Gardner]

On 14/08/20 07:05, Tony Stewart wrote:

On Fri. 14 Aug.-20 1:17 a.m., Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:08:17 PM UTC+10, Anthony Stewart wrote:
On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 6:02 p.m., bitrex wrote:
Vigorous sex with attractive women 8-10 years younger than myself on the
regular.
There\'s no vaccine for Herpes. It\'s for life just suppressed with
antibiotics.

It\'s a viral infection. Antibiotics don\'t help, unless the sores get infected
with bacteria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.




Bill being as presumptive as usual.

No, you making an elementary error.

Then not noticing the difference between antivirals and antibiotics...

There is no cure for herpes. Antiviral medications can, however, prevent or
shorten outbreaks during the period of time the person takes the medication

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 13/08/20 17:33, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 2020-08-13 02:35, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 13/08/20 02:12, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 5:48:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:54:25 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 8/12/2020 2:14 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 13:48:57 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 8/12/2020 1:38 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 8/12/2020 1:27 PM, Anthony Stewart wrote:

snip

There\'s no magic for you, don\'t expect it.

Of course I experience magic. It\'s sad that you don\'t seem to.

As Arthur C. Clarke pointed out, any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic

Damn. You beat me to it

My inspiration is the corollary,

\"Any technology that is distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.\"

Today\'s corollary, which illustrates the journalist or subeditor
is at least minimally literate:

\"Clarke\'s Third Law: Any sufficiently advanced techie is
indistinguishable from magic. And with a wave of his hand,
the printer was fixed\"
https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/on_call/

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 4:05:53 PM UTC+10, Anthony Stewart wrote:

On Fri. 14 Aug.-20 1:17 a.m., Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:08:17 PM UTC+10, Anthony Stewart wrote:
On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 6:02 p.m., bitrex wrote:
Vigorous sex with attractive women 8-10 years younger than myself on the
regular.

There\'s no vaccine for Herpes. It\'s for life just suppressed with
antibiotics.

It\'s a viral infection. Antibiotics don\'t help, unless the sores get infected with bacteria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.

Bill being as presumptive as usual.

Presuming NT to have got it wrong is a pretty reliable choice. There was no presumption involved here, of course - NT did get it wrong.

The word NT might have had in mind could have been \"presumptuous\". From NT\'s point of view nobody has the right to say that NT has got it wrong - his point of view doesn\'t admit to the possibility that he might make an error.. Not a realistic point of view, but this is NT.

There is no cure for herpes. Antiviral medications can, however, prevent
or shorten outbreaks during the period of time the person takes the
medication.

So why did you say antibiotics?

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Tony Stewart]

On Fri. 14 Aug.-20 2:10 a.m., Ricketty C wrote:

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.




Bill being as presumptive as usual.

There is no cure for herpes. Antiviral medications can, however, prevent
or shorten outbreaks during the period of time the person takes the
medication

Jeez! You wrote \"antibiotics\" and now you are talking \"Antiviral\". His point is they are not at all the same. Nothing alike and zero overlap.

Do you ever learn from your errors here?

Are also make too many false assumptions.

Just like CV19 the virus is treated to support the immune system with
antiviral drugs, that goes away and then the immune system is
compromised and bacterial infections can take over and THEN you must
have antibiotics or in CV19 case , you die.

Rickety try to understand why I say something or STFU

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 9:04:15 PM UTC+10, Anthony Stewart wrote:

On Fri. 14 Aug.-20 2:10 a.m., Ricketty C wrote:

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.

Bill being as presumptive as usual.

There is no cure for herpes. Antiviral medications can, however, prevent
or shorten outbreaks during the period of time the person takes the
medication

Jeez! You wrote \"antibiotics\" and now you are talking \"Antiviral\". His point is they are not at all the same. Nothing alike and zero overlap.

Do you ever learn from your errors here?

Are also make too many false assumptions.

Just like CV19 the virus is treated to support the immune system with
antiviral drugs, that goes away and then the immune system is
compromised and bacterial infections can take over and THEN you must
have antibiotics or in CV19 case , you die.

Antiviral drugs don\'t compromise the immune system. A sufficiently vicious viral infection can - as sometimes happens with Covid-19. Herpes isn\'t all that vicious.

> Rickety try to understand why I say something or STFU.

NT imagines that his mistakes are worth understanding. Some of them are sufficiently comical to be worth commenting on, but he\'s just a common or garden half-wit. He just posted a reaction to my current-mirror variation on the Baxandall oscillator which demonstrated that he doesn\'t know the difference between a Wien Bridge oscillator and a phase shift oscillator, which really is amusing.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 14/08/20 12:04, Tony Stewart wrote:

On Fri. 14 Aug.-20 2:10 a.m., Ricketty C wrote:

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.




Bill being as presumptive as usual.

There is no cure for herpes. Antiviral medications can, however, prevent
or shorten outbreaks during the period of time the person takes the
medication

Jeez!  You wrote \"antibiotics\" and now you are talking \"Antiviral\".  His point
is they are not at all the same.  Nothing alike and zero overlap.

Do you ever learn from your errors here?

Are also make too many false assumptions.

Just like CV19 the virus is treated to support the immune system with antiviral
drugs, that goes away and then the immune system is compromised and bacterial
infections can take over and THEN you must have antibiotics or in CV19 case ,
you die.

That\'s word salad, with a side helping of a stopped clock being
right twice a day.

You would do yourself a favour if you remembered that, when
they are in a hole, wise people stop digging - and preferably
say \"whoops, that was a mistake\".


> Rickety try to understand why I say something or STFU

We do understand why you say things like that - but I doubt you
would agree with our conclusions.

 

[bitrex]

On 8/13/2020 10:04 PM, Tony Stewart wrote:

On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 9:43 p.m., bitrex wrote:

They say the Canadians have it worse but on just about any hospital on
Google reviews you check out you can find lots of reviews like this one

Who is they? certainly not WHO.

Canada\'s daily deaths are < 5% of when it was peak like the tail end of
a bell curve.

 vs USA still on their 2nd wave at about 33% of their max daily death
rate.

Total CV19 deaths

 CDN = 9k   projected to 10.4k Dec 1
 USA = 165k and projected to 300K Dec 1  That should help Biden get in.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Nah I mean the health care system in general.

America has the \"best health care in the world\", as defined by
Americans, who seem to do little but complain about it constantly

 

[bitrex]

On 8/14/2020 1:08 AM, Tony Stewart wrote:

On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 6:02 p.m., bitrex wrote:
Vigorous sex with attractive women 8-10 years younger than myself on
the regular.

There\'s no vaccine for Herpes. It\'s for life just suppressed with
antibiotics.

Well shoot, fella, I hang out in an engineering Usenet group how many
fresh harlots do you think I\'m picking up a year to sleep with, fifty?

 

[server]

On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:04:38 -0400, Tony Stewart
<tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 9:43 p.m., bitrex wrote:

They say the Canadians have it worse but on just about any hospital on
Google reviews you check out you can find lots of reviews like this one

Who is they? certainly not WHO.

Canada\'s daily deaths are < 5% of when it was peak like the tail end of
a bell curve.

vs USA still on their 2nd wave at about 33% of their max daily death rate.

Total CV19 deaths

CDN = 9k projected to 10.4k Dec 1
USA = 165k and projected to 300K Dec 1 That should help Biden get in.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Right, everyone should hide in their basements and never come out.
That would stop the pandemic.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Ricketty C]

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 12:18:03 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:04:38 -0400, Tony Stewart
tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 9:43 p.m., bitrex wrote:

They say the Canadians have it worse but on just about any hospital on
Google reviews you check out you can find lots of reviews like this one

Who is they? certainly not WHO.

Canada\'s daily deaths are < 5% of when it was peak like the tail end of
a bell curve.

vs USA still on their 2nd wave at about 33% of their max daily death rate.

Total CV19 deaths

CDN = 9k projected to 10.4k Dec 1
USA = 165k and projected to 300K Dec 1 That should help Biden get in.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Right, everyone should hide in their basements and never come out.
That would stop the pandemic.

It would. The great thing is they would not have to hide forever, just a few weeks. Within two weeks everyone who is infected would be testable. Anyone who was positive could be treated and removed from the population at large.

Once this was done in an adequately massive scale the infection would be virtually gone. If we followed up with track and trace with prejudice, we could nearly eliminate the disease and people would not need to self isolate anymore.

The proof is in the many countries where they keep it under control.

There\'s no magic, no mystery science. In terms of preventing the spread, it *is* much like a cold. The difference is that doing nothing to stop the spread will result in some millions of deaths in the US and many millions of deaths around the world.

Why are people in denial of this? It is not complex science.

--

Rick C.

-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[server]

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 09:17:52 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:04:38 -0400, Tony Stewart
tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 9:43 p.m., bitrex wrote:

They say the Canadians have it worse but on just about any hospital on
Google reviews you check out you can find lots of reviews like this one

Who is they? certainly not WHO.

Canada\'s daily deaths are < 5% of when it was peak like the tail end of
a bell curve.

vs USA still on their 2nd wave at about 33% of their max daily death rate.

Total CV19 deaths

CDN = 9k projected to 10.4k Dec 1
USA = 165k and projected to 300K Dec 1 That should help Biden get in.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Right, everyone should hide in their basements and never come out.
That would stop the pandemic.

I believe the White House has a basement. Perfect.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[bitrex]

On 8/14/2020 12:17 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:04:38 -0400, Tony Stewart
tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 9:43 p.m., bitrex wrote:

They say the Canadians have it worse but on just about any hospital on
Google reviews you check out you can find lots of reviews like this one

Who is they? certainly not WHO.

Canada\'s daily deaths are < 5% of when it was peak like the tail end of
a bell curve.

vs USA still on their 2nd wave at about 33% of their max daily death rate.

Total CV19 deaths

CDN = 9k projected to 10.4k Dec 1
USA = 165k and projected to 300K Dec 1 That should help Biden get in.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Right, everyone should hide in their basements and never come out.
That would stop the pandemic.

During the Cold War everyone east of the Mississippi was expected to
shelter for six weeks after a hypothetical counter-force strike on the
missile fields out west but I suppose the prompt physiological effects
of fall-out would make for a more convincing argument, at least for the
first week or two while the really hot stuff decays.

If there were a nuclear exchange in Asia or the Middle East people on
the west coast would be wise to do something similar.

 

[bitrex]

On 8/14/2020 12:28 PM, Ricketty C wrote:

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 12:18:03 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:04:38 -0400, Tony Stewart
tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 9:43 p.m., bitrex wrote:

They say the Canadians have it worse but on just about any hospital on
Google reviews you check out you can find lots of reviews like this one

Who is they? certainly not WHO.

Canada\'s daily deaths are < 5% of when it was peak like the tail end of
a bell curve.

vs USA still on their 2nd wave at about 33% of their max daily death rate.

Total CV19 deaths

CDN = 9k projected to 10.4k Dec 1
USA = 165k and projected to 300K Dec 1 That should help Biden get in.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Right, everyone should hide in their basements and never come out.
That would stop the pandemic.

It would. The great thing is they would not have to hide forever, just a few weeks. Within two weeks everyone who is infected would be testable. Anyone who was positive could be treated and removed from the population at large.

Once this was done in an adequately massive scale the infection would be virtually gone. If we followed up with track and trace with prejudice, we could nearly eliminate the disease and people would not need to self isolate anymore.

The proof is in the many countries where they keep it under control.

There\'s no magic, no mystery science. In terms of preventing the spread, it *is* much like a cold. The difference is that doing nothing to stop the spread will result in some millions of deaths in the US and many millions of deaths around the world.

Why are people in denial of this? It is not complex science.

The casualties and economic damage of C-19 when it\'s all said and done
may be about equivalent to a limited nuclear exchange where 25-50
weapons hit mostly strategic targets on each side. Million dead, times
three wounded, takes the better part of a decade for economy to recover.

 

[Ricketty C]

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:20:31 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 8/14/2020 12:17 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:04:38 -0400, Tony Stewart
tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 9:43 p.m., bitrex wrote:

They say the Canadians have it worse but on just about any hospital on
Google reviews you check out you can find lots of reviews like this one

Who is they? certainly not WHO.

Canada\'s daily deaths are < 5% of when it was peak like the tail end of
a bell curve.

vs USA still on their 2nd wave at about 33% of their max daily death rate.

Total CV19 deaths

CDN = 9k projected to 10.4k Dec 1
USA = 165k and projected to 300K Dec 1 That should help Biden get in.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Right, everyone should hide in their basements and never come out.
That would stop the pandemic.




During the Cold War everyone east of the Mississippi was expected to
shelter for six weeks after a hypothetical counter-force strike on the
missile fields out west but I suppose the prompt physiological effects
of fall-out would make for a more convincing argument, at least for the
first week or two while the really hot stuff decays.

If there were a nuclear exchange in Asia or the Middle East people on
the west coast would be wise to do something similar.

That is one of the problems with this disease. There are people who not only don\'t take it seriously, but think it is a hoax. Some of them have died of the disease.

It is just bad enough to kill a lot of people, but not so bad that it kills enough to be highly visible on a personal level. Several posters here talk about the disease in their own corner as if that meant anything in the grand picture.

In many ways this disease is the perfect storm of pandemic, highly communicable and not serious enough to get everyone\'s focused attention. While we debate how to best deal with the disease it steadily marches toward 2% infected, but still a long way from herd immunity.

--

Rick C.

-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Tabby]

On Friday, 14 August 2020 at 07:10:17 UTC+1, Ricketty C wrote:

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 2:05:53 AM UTC-4, Anthony Stewart wrote:
On Fri. 14 Aug.-20 1:17 a.m., Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:08:17 PM UTC+10, Anthony Stewart wrote:
On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 6:02 p.m., bitrex wrote:
Vigorous sex with attractive women 8-10 years younger than myself on the
regular.
There\'s no vaccine for Herpes. It\'s for life just suppressed with
antibiotics.

It\'s a viral infection. Antibiotics don\'t help, unless the sores get infected with bacteria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.




Bill being as presumptive as usual.

There is no cure for herpes. Antiviral medications can, however, prevent
or shorten outbreaks during the period of time the person takes the
medication
Jeez! You wrote \"antibiotics\" and now you are talking \"Antiviral\". His point is they are not at all the same. Nothing alike and zero overlap.

Do you ever learn from your errors here?

FWIW Anothony Stewart is not NT.
ICBA to engage with slowman.


NT

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 4:09:28 AM UTC+10, Tabby wrote:

On Friday, 14 August 2020 at 07:10:17 UTC+1, Ricketty C wrote:
On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 2:05:53 AM UTC-4, Anthony Stewart wrote:
On Fri. 14 Aug.-20 1:17 a.m., Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:08:17 PM UTC+10, Anthony Stewart wrote:
On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 6:02 p.m., bitrex wrote:
Vigorous sex with attractive women 8-10 years younger than myself on the
regular.
There\'s no vaccine for Herpes. It\'s for life just suppressed with
antibiotics.

It\'s a viral infection. Antibiotics don\'t help, unless the sores get infected with bacteria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.

Bill being as presumptive as usual.

There is no cure for herpes. Antiviral medications can, however, prevent
or shorten outbreaks during the period of time the person takes the
medication
Jeez! You wrote \"antibiotics\" and now you are talking \"Antiviral\". His point is they are not at all the same. Nothing alike and zero overlap.

Do you ever learn from your errors here?
FWIW Anothony Stewart is not NT.

He\'s just the same kind of idiot. It\'s not as if there is any significant difference between them. They will be aware of the differences, but - as Samuel Johnson said \"there is no settling the point of precedency between a louse and a flea\".

> ICBA to engage with Sloman.

Of course you can\'t. I point out where you are being idiotic, and you don\'t enjoy that at all.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 9:10:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 4:09:28 AM UTC+10, Tabby wrote:
On Friday, 14 August 2020 at 07:10:17 UTC+1, Ricketty C wrote:
On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 2:05:53 AM UTC-4, Anthony Stewart wrote:
On Fri. 14 Aug.-20 1:17 a.m., Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:08:17 PM UTC+10, Anthony Stewart wrote:
On Thu. 13 Aug.-20 6:02 p.m., bitrex wrote:
Vigorous sex with attractive women 8-10 years younger than myself on the
regular.
There\'s no vaccine for Herpes. It\'s for life just suppressed with
antibiotics.

It\'s a viral infection. Antibiotics don\'t help, unless the sores get infected with bacteria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex

NT being as knowledgeable as ever.

Bill being as presumptive as usual.

There is no cure for herpes. Antiviral medications can, however, prevent
or shorten outbreaks during the period of time the person takes the
medication
Jeez! You wrote \"antibiotics\" and now you are talking \"Antiviral\". His point is they are not at all the same. Nothing alike and zero overlap.

Do you ever learn from your errors here?
FWIW Anothony Stewart is not NT.
He\'s just the same kind of idiot. It\'s not as if there is any significant difference between them. They will be aware of the differences, but - as Samuel Johnson said \"there is no settling the point of precedency between a louse and a flea\".

ICBA to engage with Sloman.

Of course you can\'t. I point out where you are being idiotic, and you don\'t enjoy that at all.

--
SL0W MAN, Sydney

SL0W MAN acting like an idiot again, insulting people.