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[john jardine]

"Dan Ricketts" <Someone@Somewhere.com> wrote in message
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"john jardine" <john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Dan Ricketts" <Someone@Somewhere.com> wrote in message
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Hi all,

[clip]

Hi John,

Thanks for your reply. What you are thinking of are light boxes (that's
the
next thing I'm planning to build). The idea behind the dawn/dusk simulator
is that it simulates the rising/setting of the sun, which is supposed to
be
particularly helpful in cases of SAD (you wake up to the slow 'rising' of
a
light source instead of waking in the dark - which I have to given my
job).

Many thanks

Dan

My apologies. I only saw the top half of the post. Read it all now and have
the context.
regards
john

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:05:34 -0800, the renowned Tim Wescott
tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:


Corporal punishment, applied in a consistent and loving manner, is not
IMO physical abuse. _Any_ discipline that's applied in a way that a
child can't predict, that's too severe, or that doesn't give the kid
room to grow, will screw the kid up -- possibly for life (but I'm not so
ready to believe that it'll pop out as psychosis).

So unless the spanking that you're referring to leaves permanent flat
spots on their behinds its just discipline, not abuse.

Cultures where spanking is rare produce kids that are no less screwed
up, IMHO.
Spehro Pefhany
----------------

And so your "humble opinion" makes your "guess" true??

That's nonsense, the societies that don't hit have MUCH lower
rates of crime and violence!

-Steve
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[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:31:35 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 11:57:23 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:
I think you simply grossed him out. Some courses of action should
simply be prohibited on penalty of death,

So nobody has the right to do anything,
------------------
Liar. I've told you what you have a right to do, to own a home,
now, this instant, to be paid absolutely equally per hour for
any and all democratically sanctioned work, to work more to
earn more, to build your castle as you please, to receive free
medical and vacation and retirement.

Yeah, OK.

In the Empire of Walz, Everyone Has The Right To Do What
Our God, Steve, Says.

Fuuuuuck you!

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:31:35 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 11:57:23 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:
I think you simply grossed him out. Some courses of action should
simply be prohibited on penalty of death,

So nobody has the right to do anything,
------------------
Liar. I've told you what you have a right to do, to own a home,
now, this instant, to be paid absolutely equally per hour for
any and all democratically sanctioned work, to work more to
earn more, to build your castle as you please, to receive free
medical and vacation and retirement.

Yeah, OK.

In the Empire of Walz, Everyone Has The Right To Do What
Our God, Steve, Says.

Fuuuuuck you!
-----------------

Lessee, just living an honest life, gee, I wouldn't care if you were
a circus geek if it was Democratically contracted. I'm sure some of
us will want to see it, just like other hobbies. You don't seem to
realize that what I promote doesn't stand in the way of anything
except doing it dishonestly in some effort to try to enslave others
by trying to make them do your work FOR you. That's what's criminal.

-Steve
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[R. Steve Walz]

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:00:49 GMT, the renowned "R. Steve Walz"
rstevew@armory.com> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:05:34 -0800, the renowned Tim Wescott
tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:


Corporal punishment, applied in a consistent and loving manner, is not
IMO physical abuse. _Any_ discipline that's applied in a way that a
child can't predict, that's too severe, or that doesn't give the kid
room to grow, will screw the kid up -- possibly for life (but I'm not so
ready to believe that it'll pop out as psychosis).

So unless the spanking that you're referring to leaves permanent flat
spots on their behinds its just discipline, not abuse.

Cultures where spanking is rare produce kids that are no less screwed
up, IMHO.
Spehro Pefhany
----------------
And so your "humble opinion" makes your "guess" true??

No, just observation and interpretation. I have not made a formal
study of it, like most parents, I'm an amateur.

That's nonsense, the societies that don't hit have MUCH lower
rates of crime and violence!

-Steve

Do you know the things they whisper into kids ears in Asian cultures
to discipline them?
Spehro Pefhany
---------------------

If they never do them, whispering doesn't work.

Ever read the original Grimms Tales?

-Steve
--
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Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
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[Terry Given]

Clarence wrote:

"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
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Clarence wrote:

unsnip

"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
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unsnip

Plonk!



AND A top poster!
You ARE REALLY low!
But I do not discuss discipline with anyone who approves of beating children!
You did say Corporal, didn't you?


I take it that means you have no answer. Hardly surprising.


Terry


DO YOU have any shame?

I didn't think so!

You still dont have an answer; instead you deflect the question with
sophistry ie top-posting. Nor do you appear able to read:

"who has yet to smack his 9-year-old daughter" should be a bit of a
giveaway. I do not approve of beating children.


Terry

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Tom MacIntyre wrote:

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 18:07:29 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:


"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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snip

Corporal punishment for my child is MY right, and MY decision, not
that of anyone else.

Tom

That was my stepfathers line, until I broke his nose!
His weapon of choice was a broom stick.
I just used my fist!

If you have to use corporal punishment, you are an unfit parent!


You just admitted that you used corporal punishment on your
step-father (actually, depending on the circumstances, you may have
assaulted him). The only difference is you used a part of your own
body, and you seem to have had a good reason.
-------------------------

He defended himself. The Evil parents do comes of trying to control
or manipulate a child with violence, fear or threat. No child should
ever be hit unless he has hit or intended injury to another unjustly.

It's only one of several options, and always the final one. A light
tap or two on the ass with an open hand is not likely to hurt anyone;
---------------------------

Had my father hit me even once, I'd have turned from everything and
become a criminal set lifelong on revenge against anyone who got in
my way. Know ye that you are blessed with a world in which my father
was a sensible man, or I'd have killed or maimed several of you and
yours by now! Seriously!

I am not taliking about drawing blood and/or inflicting pain, it's
about sending a message. Numerous courts are on my side in this in
North America. Broomsticks, paint stirring sticks, army belts, the
"strap", caning...the weapons of cowards. Thankfully times have
changed.
------------------

That the courts are as stupid as you does not recommend it, you, or
them. No person should be assaulted lest they have given assault on
another who did nonesuch to them! This is the essential inborn sense
of human fairness at work. If a child is hit arbitrarily to try to
make them obey you like a wind-up ponce, then whoever hits them should
be taken out and be beaten to death at the curb and be left for the
garbage pick-up!

-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public

 

[Terry Given]

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 00:09:47 +1300, Terry Given wrote:


The resident psychologit basically equipped the parents with some balls,

^^^

No Freudian slips here, nope. Nosiree, nuh-uh!

;^j

Ya must have missed the bit erarlier:

"After the article, a plague of social workers, psychologits (typo
intentional) etc."

so no, no freudian slips at all. I once got caned for seeing a
psychologit at school. Its a pretty funny story really. It was one of
those stupid essay contest things, write an essay starting with "the
last laugh" - 5th form IIRC. So I did, and made it 3,000 words of blood
and gore - revenge extraordinaire. I came 3rd or 4th in the essay
contest (well written, just bloodthirsty) but the school was disturbed.
They got my parents in and explained their concerns, and my folks just
laughed at them, saying something along the lines of "this is the
reaction he was aiming for" - which of course it was (hey, I met all of
their criteria). So the school duly made me see a psychologit, who
proceeded to give me a Rorschach test. My response to every "what do you
see here" question was "A Rorschach blot". after about 5 minutes of this
the psychologit flipped his lid, ranted and raved at the top of his
voice for a while, and stormed off to get help. Whereupon the deputy
principle (you know him, he was my 6th form english teacher) caned me -
for truthfully answering a question

Cheers
Terry

 

[Clarence]

"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 18:07:29 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message

snip

Corporal punishment for my child is MY right, and MY decision, not
that of anyone else.
Tom

That was my stepfathers line, until I broke his nose!
His weapon of choice was a broom stick.
I just used my fist!

If you have to use corporal punishment, you are an unfit parent!

You just admitted that you used corporal punishment on your
step-father (actually, depending on the circumstances, you may have
assaulted him). The only difference is you used a part of your own
body, and you seem to have had a good reason.

Your speculation is unwarranted and absurd! Corporal punishment is not the
same as self defense! It was Self Defense! No crime there. Last time he hit me
it broke my collar bone. Like yourself he thought it was his "RIGHT" When he
learned I could have him put in prison, he apologized, like that helped! He
was trying to get me arrested, but the police had another view!

No, I have never broken anyone else's noise, but I did shoot a burglar in the
knee!
Self defense is always justified!

You seem to be defending the indefensible!

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Terry Given wrote:

R. Steve Walz wrote:

That was my stepfathers line, until I broke his nose!
His weapon of choice was a broom stick.
I just used my fist!

If you have to use corporal punishment, you are an unfit parent!


You just admitted that you used corporal punishment on your
step-father (actually, depending on the circumstances, you may have
assaulted him). The only difference is you used a part of your own
body, and you seem to have had a good reason.
-------------------------
He defended himself. The Evil parents do comes of trying to control
or manipulate a child with violence, fear or threat. No child should
ever be hit unless he has hit or intended injury to another
unjustly.

It's only one of several options, and always the final one. A light
tap or two on the ass with an open hand is not likely to hurt anyone;
---------------------------
Had my father hit me even once, I'd have turned from everything and
become a criminal set lifelong on revenge against anyone who got in
my way. Know ye that you are blessed with a world in which my father
was a sensible man, or I'd have killed or maimed several of you and
yours by now! Seriously!

So the only reason you are not a homicidal axe-wielding maniac is
because your father never once smacked you, but a single spank would
drive you over the edge.
-------------------------------

Violence is well-know to alter people for the worse.
Clearly it has driven YOU over the edge, you disingenuous clown.

Having read your posts on this thread, I am inclined to agree with your
own character assessment - you are dangerously unstable.
----------------------------------

So by your estimation anyone who demands fair and just treatment
is surely dangerously insane. Classic attitude for an abusive
criminal liar like you!

I am not taliking about drawing blood and/or inflicting pain, it's
about sending a message. Numerous courts are on my side in this in
North America. Broomsticks, paint stirring sticks, army belts, the
"strap", caning...the weapons of cowards. Thankfully times have
changed.
------------------
That the courts are as stupid as you does not recommend it, you, or
them. No person should be assaulted lest they have given assault on
another who did nonesuch to them! This is the essential inborn sense
of human fairness at work. If a child is hit arbitrarily to try to
make them obey you like a wind-up ponce, then whoever hits them should
be taken out and be beaten to death at the curb and be left for the
garbage pick-up!
-Steve
--------------

-Steve
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[Clarence]

"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote in
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"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
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R. Steve Walz wrote:

[snip]

Having read your posts on this thread, I am inclined to agree with
your
own character assessment - you are dangerously unstable.

Welcome to the club.

I didn't reply because it got too personal.
There was the arrogance of my stepfather
facing me with the same line, "I have the right"

Better to avoid such people than Kill them!
Obviously I left home and Joined the Army,
where they taught me to kill with my bare hands.
That sure taught me to control my temper!

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:52:30 +1300, Terry Given wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 00:17:40 +1300, Terry Given wrote:

R. Steve Walz wrote:


Had my father hit me even once, I'd have turned from everything and
become a criminal set lifelong on revenge against anyone who got in
my way. Know ye that you are blessed with a world in which my father
was a sensible man, or I'd have killed or maimed several of you and
yours by now! Seriously!

So the only reason you are not a homicidal axe-wielding maniac is
because your father never once smacked you, but a single spank would
drive you over the edge.

Having read your posts on this thread, I am inclined to agree with your
own character assessment - you are dangerously unstable.


So is the F-16, if the attitude control computer breaks. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich


Only for increased bandwidth. But I betcha a single slap wont make it
flip out

Hopefully, it's not running windows CE. (or whatever the version they
use for - I just coined this - "Car Windows" <rimshot&gt

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Winfield Hill]

Willco wrote...

I'm looking for a custom IC marked 528 55178 it's used in a motorola
S1344AAB Frequency Counter/Auto Tune Deviation Meter. The Motorola
part number is 51-80329A60

In the early 70's the unit was Manufactured by Systron Donner for
Motorola. Systron Donner's model number was SLN6407A-75. They also
manufactured a frequency counter model 6252 that is identical to the
counter section of the 1344AAB

The chip is a counter/latch with tri-state outputs. I was able to
Identify some input ie clock and output enable and carry. But the
other inputs are unknown.

A schematic or manual for the above equipment would help!

At any one time there are generally a number of old Systron Donner
counters on eBay, e.g. 6054, 6016, 6152A, 6150, 6520, 624x manual,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3850489324
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3851230662
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If you add a "Systron Donner 6252" search to favorites, with an
email notification, and wait a while, a 6252 might pop up for you
and you might win it for under $50.


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

[Tom MacIntyre]

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 18:07:29 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:

"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j93qo0potq5la8jb5tb56o5olsh8c5gu4j@4ax.com...

snip

Corporal punishment for my child is MY right, and MY decision, not
that of anyone else.

Tom

That was my stepfathers line, until I broke his nose!
His weapon of choice was a broom stick.
I just used my fist!

If you have to use corporal punishment, you are an unfit parent!

You just admitted that you used corporal punishment on your
step-father (actually, depending on the circumstances, you may have
assaulted him). The only difference is you used a part of your own
body, and you seem to have had a good reason.

It's only one of several options, and always the final one. A light
tap or two on the ass with an open hand is not likely to hurt anyone;
I am not taliking about drawing blood and/or inflicting pain, it's
about sending a message. Numerous courts are on my side in this in
North America. Broomsticks, paint stirring sticks, army belts, the
"strap", caning...the weapons of cowards. Thankfully times have
changed.

I am reaonably sure that it was actually NOT your step-father's line,
either...I am sure he was quite happy for you to be beaten first by a
teacher before he repeated the act. Accept my apologies if I am wrong.

Thanks for snipping the more relevant part of my post...must be a
by-product of your (unfair) corporal punishment, perhaps, to remove
evidence that may prove you wrong.

Have you broken anyone else's nose?

Have a nice day.

Tom

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Product developer" <jdurban@vorel.com> wrote in message
news:118afaeb.0411090956.3d89189b@posting.google.com...
[snip]

motor and a couple limit switches, viola full color temperature
variable apertured lighting source.

Viola? What's the difference between a viola and a violin? The viola
burns longer. ;-) http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/jokes/viola.html

You might wish to take a natural supplement like raw adrenal gland to
aid in energy level which inherently affects mood.

Raw? Just eat the whole pig. ;-)

 

[Product developer]

"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<10p44dd3dif5718@corp.supernews.com>...

"Product developer" <jdurban@vorel.com> wrote in message
news:118afaeb.0411090956.3d89189b@posting.google.com...
[snip]

motor and a couple limit switches, viola full color temperature
variable apertured lighting source.

Viola? What's the difference between a viola and a violin? The viola
burns longer. ;-) http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/jokes/viola.html

That was hilarious. My favorite, being a footballer = What is the
range of a Viola? As far as you can kick it.

You might wish to take a natural supplement like raw adrenal gland to
aid in energy level which inherently affects mood.

Raw? Just eat the whole pig. ;-)

What if he's Jewish or Arab? :0

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 11:57:23 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:
I think you simply grossed him out. Some courses of action should
simply be prohibited on penalty of death,

So nobody has the right to do anything,
------------------

Liar. I've told you what you have a right to do, to own a home,
now, this instant, to be paid absolutely equally per hour for
any and all democratically sanctioned work, to work more to
earn more, to build your castle as you please, to receive free
medical and vacation and retirement.

but you have the right to kill whoever you want to.
------------------------

Nope, who the Democracy wants.'

That's real sane.

Good Luck!
Rich
----------------------

Me!? No. I don't want the job!

-Steve
--
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Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public

 

[JeffM]

viola full color temperature variable apertured lighting source.
Product developer

Viola? What's the difference between a viola and a violin?
The viola burns longer. ;-) http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/jokes/viola.html
Watt Sun

I adopted (and modified) one of these a while back.
Perfect pitch:
Throwing a rapper's microphone into a dumpster without hitting the rim.

 

[Tom MacIntyre]

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:03:21 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
<null@example.net> wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:52:20 +1300, Terry Given wrote:

mum at a cafe having lunch/coffee with friends, sprogs abound. Adults
talking, kid comes up and says "mum, mum..." mum ignores kid for 5
minutes or so, then screams at kid to be quiet, and gives kid a wallop.

What's this guy supposed to do? Lacking a time machine, of course:
http://www.punchbaby.com/media/gitfakt/clips/ads/condoms.mpg

Cheers!
Rich

That's the whole point...what he was supposed to do has already not
been done a long time ago, or has been subverted.

Raising children is a complicated thing, and is sadly trivialized by
many. Interfering relatives, friends, and even strangers can create
havoc in the parenting experience, because the child just wants
someone, anyone, to agree with them. In the end, if you fail as a
parent due to the actions of others, you get the blame, because...it's
YOUR child, after all.

Tom

 

[Terry Given]

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 11:04:58 +1300, Terry Given wrote:


Clarence wrote:


"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:7objd.4452$op3.170282@news.xtra.co.nz...

snip

If you have to use corporal punishment, you are an unfit parent!


blanket statements are easy to make but inevitably fail the real-world
test. Just what do you do with the child who insists on running across
the road in front of cars? I ask that because we had an interesting case
publicised in NZ a few years back - a parent was walloping their kids
arse in public, and a neighbour called the police (it is still legal to
smack your kids here). Turns out the kid runs across roads. They fenced
& locked their property, and in this case had locked him inside his
room, but he smashed the window, escaped and was playing chicken with
cars when his mum found him and gave him a hiding. Their defence (apart

from the fact it wasnt illegal) - what the hell else can they do? they

dont want him to die.....



So beat him up and chain him in the basement? You can I suppose justify any
cruel treatment, You are full of it!

I didnt justify anything, I merely posed a real scenario and asked a
question. YOU suggested beating & chaining in a basement.


Nuts, you are so irrational it is not possible to have an exchange of ideas.
But anyone who would beat their kids should be publicly shamed!

and yet you are. Hmm.


You clearly have nothing of value to say, and no shame!

OK then Clarence, seeing as you are so rational - how would you prevent
this particular kid (IIRC he was 4 and therefore not amenable to
discussion) from playing chicken in traffic.

Or would you refrain from smacking him, then be surprised when he gets
killed?


I'd get him inside before smacking him, if I was going to smack him
at all, but all that would teach him is that he lets himself get
captured and dragged inside, he's going to get smacked.

I'd wonder, this whole scenario is a little bizarre. Fenced and locked the
yard, locked his room, yet at 4 Years old, he escapes, and goes and does
what he wants anyway. What's wrong with that picture in the first place?

honestly, there were several detailed write-ups on this little terrors
family. A couple of normal kids, seemingly normal middle-class parents -
but he was a right tearaway, and really did smash a window to escape.
And it wasnt the first time. IIRC he escaped the yard by piling up
various items in the yard before clambering over the fence - several
papers referred to him as a little houdini. It was pretty obvious the
kid was hell-bent on playing with traffic.

It sounds to me like what the kid needs is medical attention. And his
parents, probably even more so.

Thanks,
Rich

The parents were extremely upset - they said they had tried everything,
and it just didnt work. Smacking was their last resort.

It is quite possible the kid has some chemical problems - perhaps diet
related, perhaps genetic, who knows. I dont know that SSRI's are the
solution to these sorts of problems though - they just convince kids to
kill themselves.

I forget the outcome of the story - I suspect the kid just got drugged
senseless.

Cheers
Terry