lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain\\\'s Eternal Senile Whore!...

On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 18:17:51 +0100, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:


How the hell did that work?  Did they put short people on the top deck?

No, they just kind of sat on the lower deck people\'s heads. I can\'t find
a diagram.

Is there no limit to your stupidity, you idiotic troll-feeding senile
ASSHOLE?

--
Max Dumb having another senile moment:
\"It\'s the consistency of the shit that counts. Sometimes I don\'t need to
wipe, but I have to do so to tell. Also humans have buttocks to get
smeared due to our bipedalism.\"
MID: <6vydnWiYDoV1VUrDnZ2dnUU78QednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

And yet another senile moment:
\"A fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one.\"
MID: <tv1of3$1v4qg$1@dont-email.me>
 
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:


> I found something for you after all:

Well, the attention-starved troll THANKS you for all the unexpected extra
attention you give him, you absolutely idiotic troll-feeding senile asshole!

--
Max Dumb having another senile moment:
\"It\'s the consistency of the shit that counts. Sometimes I don\'t need to
wipe, but I have to do so to tell. Also humans have buttocks to get
smeared due to our bipedalism.\"
MID: <6vydnWiYDoV1VUrDnZ2dnUU78QednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

And yet another senile moment:
\"A fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one.\"
MID: <tv1of3$1v4qg$1@dont-email.me>
 
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 18:27:23 +0100, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:


> They switched voltage automatically.

As automatically as you senile shithead are happy to take every bait the
idiotic Scottish wanker with an IQ of 140! (LOL) sets out for you?

--
Max Dumb having another senile moment:
\"It\'s the consistency of the shit that counts. Sometimes I don\'t need to
wipe, but I have to do so to tell. Also humans have buttocks to get
smeared due to our bipedalism.\"
MID: <6vydnWiYDoV1VUrDnZ2dnUU78QednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

--
And yet another senile moment:
\"A fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one.\"
MID: <tv1of3$1v4qg$1@dont-email.me>
 
On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:55:15 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 15:06:55 -0000, charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

However trains can\'t cope with slopes in the way that motor vehicles can,
so the lowering might have to start some miles back

Another reason trains are shit, they can\'t cope with hills.

Neither can boats. But, for heavy transportation, those ARE the best we
have available.

You can erase hill obstacles, for boats, with canals. You can erase hill obstacles, for
trains, with tunnels. It just takes engineering.
 
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 03/04/2023 18:17, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/04/2023 23:50, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:58:53 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 22/03/2023 09:00, SteveW wrote:
On 22/03/2023 00:23, Bob F wrote:
On 3/21/2023 4:24 PM, SteveW wrote:

Containers go on trains here, but not usually entire trailers. Due to
being the first to develop railways, they were mainly built with
bridges and tunnels too small to allow that.


They double stack containers here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-stack_rail_transport

Yes, I\'ve seen them before.

As you can see here: http://igg.org.uk/gansg/2-track/ukavgauge.jpg the
AVERAGE loading gauge in England is far smaller. Some lines are smaller
still and require locos and rolling stock with reduced height and/or
width.

This is why we can\'t have proper double decker passenger trains in the
UK. There were these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Class_4DD but they
were only one-an-a-half deckers. I used to travel on them sometimes; I
didn\'t realise they only made two trains like that.

How the hell did that work? Did they put short people on the top deck?

No, they just kind of sat on the lower deck people\'s heads. I can\'t find
a diagram.

I found something for you after all:
https://www.bloodandcustard.com/BR-4DD_files/image003.jpg

There were steps leading to the upper deck between the lower seats. The
upper deck had a high level window which couldn\'t be opened, which meant
ventilation was poor.

Looks an efficient way of cramming people in like sardines. Until you factor in the wasted space for the stairs.
 
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:27:23 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 02/04/2023 23:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 17:08:08 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

Some electrified lines were 6.25kV AC instead of 25kV (due to bridge
clearance issues) and the trains had to switch voltage very quickly when
they transitioned. I think they are all 25kV (for overhead lines) now,
so they must have changed something: perhaps they lowered the tracks.

Putting 25kV into something expecting 6.25kV could cause a the smoke to
come out.

They switched voltage automatically.

If it\'s running on 6.25kV, how do you switch it before everything blows up?
 
On 12/04/2023 14:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:
On 03/04/2023 18:17, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/04/2023 23:50, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:58:53 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

This is why we can\'t have proper double decker passenger trains in the
UK. There were these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Class_4DD but
they
were only one-an-a-half deckers. I used to travel on them sometimes; I
didn\'t realise they only made two trains like that.

How the hell did that work?  Did they put short people on the top deck?

No, they just kind of sat on the lower deck people\'s heads. I can\'t find
a diagram.

I found something for you after all:
https://www.bloodandcustard.com/BR-4DD_files/image003.jpg

There were steps leading to the upper deck between the lower seats. The
upper deck had a high level window which couldn\'t be opened, which meant
ventilation was poor.

Looks an efficient way of cramming people in like sardines.  Until you
factor in the wasted space for the stairs.

They were never very popular. I only used them on a \"reverse commute\"
where I usually had a compartment to myself. The upper decks had no
openable windows so they must have been hot and stuffy in summer.

--
Max Demian
 
On 12/04/2023 14:05, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:27:23 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 02/04/2023 23:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 17:08:08 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

Some electrified lines were 6.25kV AC instead of 25kV (due to bridge
clearance issues) and the trains had to switch voltage very quickly
when
they transitioned. I think they are all 25kV (for overhead lines) now,
so they must have changed something: perhaps they lowered the tracks.

Putting 25kV into something expecting 6.25kV could cause a the smoke to
come out.

They switched voltage automatically.

If it\'s running on 6.25kV, how do you switch it before everything blows up?

The practice of using different voltage levels on electrified railway
lines in the UK is known as \"multi-system electrification\" and was
introduced in the mid-20th century to allow trains to operate across
different parts of the network that were electrified using different
technologies.

The use of multiple voltage levels on electrified railway lines in the
UK gradually declined over the years, and by the 1980s, most of the
multi-system electrification had been replaced by a standard voltage of
25kV. However, some sections of the network continued to use different
voltage levels until the 2000s.

The process of switching between voltage levels was done using on-board
electrical equipment known as \"multi-system locomotives\" or
\"dual-voltage trains\". These trains were designed to be able to operate
on both 25kV and 6.25kV overhead lines and were equipped with
transformers and other electrical equipment that allowed them to switch
between the two voltage levels as they travelled along the track.

The reliability of multi-system electrification was generally good,
although there were occasional issues with the switching equipment
on-board the trains, which could cause delays and disruptions to
services. Over time, improvements in technology and the gradual phasing
out of multi-system electrification has resulted in a more reliable and
efficient railway network in the UK.

--
ChatGPT
 
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:02:00 +0100, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:


They were never very popular. I only used them on a \"reverse commute\"
where I usually had a compartment to myself. The upper decks had no
openable windows so they must have been hot and stuffy in summer.

Will you trolling sick senile swine finally keep your sick shit out of these
ngs?

--
Max Dumb having another senile moment:
\"It\'s the consistency of the shit that counts. Sometimes I don\'t need to
wipe, but I have to do so to tell. Also humans have buttocks to get
smeared due to our bipedalism.\"
MID: <6vydnWiYDoV1VUrDnZ2dnUU78QednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

--
And yet another senile moment:
\"A fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one.\"
MID: <tv1of3$1v4qg$1@dont-email.me>
 
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:22:31 +0100
ChatGPT <chatgpt@example.com> wrote:

On 12/04/2023 14:05, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:27:23 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 02/04/2023 23:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 17:08:08 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

Some electrified lines were 6.25kV AC instead of 25kV (due to
bridge clearance issues) and the trains had to switch voltage
very quickly when
they transitioned. I think they are all 25kV (for overhead
lines) now, so they must have changed something: perhaps they
lowered the tracks.

Putting 25kV into something expecting 6.25kV could cause a the
smoke to come out.

They switched voltage automatically.

If it\'s running on 6.25kV, how do you switch it before everything
blows up?

The practice of using different voltage levels on electrified railway
lines in the UK is known as \"multi-system electrification\" and was
introduced in the mid-20th century to allow trains to operate across
different parts of the network that were electrified using different
technologies.

The use of multiple voltage levels on electrified railway lines in
the UK gradually declined over the years, and by the 1980s, most of
the multi-system electrification had been replaced by a standard
voltage of 25kV. However, some sections of the network continued to
use different voltage levels until the 2000s.

The process of switching between voltage levels was done using
on-board electrical equipment known as \"multi-system locomotives\" or
\"dual-voltage trains\". These trains were designed to be able to
operate on both 25kV and 6.25kV overhead lines and were equipped with
transformers and other electrical equipment that allowed them to
switch between the two voltage levels as they travelled along the
track.

The reliability of multi-system electrification was generally good,
although there were occasional issues with the switching equipment
on-board the trains, which could cause delays and disruptions to
services. Over time, improvements in technology and the gradual
phasing out of multi-system electrification has resulted in a more
reliable and efficient railway network in the UK.

Thameslink still uses 25kV on the northern section and third-rail DC
south of Kentish Town. The arc when the pantograph drops is usually
quite impressive.

--
Joe
 
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:22:31 +0100, ChatGPT, another brain dead,
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> The practice of using different voltage levels on electrified railway

Is this still the \"circuit breakers\" thread, you troll-feeding senile
SHITHEAD?
 
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:02:00 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 12/04/2023 14:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:
On 03/04/2023 18:17, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/04/2023 23:50, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:58:53 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

This is why we can\'t have proper double decker passenger trains in the
UK. There were these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Class_4DD but
they
were only one-an-a-half deckers. I used to travel on them sometimes; I
didn\'t realise they only made two trains like that.

How the hell did that work? Did they put short people on the top deck?

No, they just kind of sat on the lower deck people\'s heads. I can\'t find
a diagram.

I found something for you after all:
https://www.bloodandcustard.com/BR-4DD_files/image003.jpg

There were steps leading to the upper deck between the lower seats. The
upper deck had a high level window which couldn\'t be opened, which meant
ventilation was poor.

Looks an efficient way of cramming people in like sardines. Until you
factor in the wasted space for the stairs.

They were never very popular. I only used them on a \"reverse commute\"

A what?

where I usually had a compartment to myself. The upper decks had no
openable windows so they must have been hot and stuffy in summer.

Just strip off and get intimate with your neighbour.
 
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:57:20 +0100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:22:31 +0100
ChatGPT <chatgpt@example.com> wrote:

On 12/04/2023 14:05, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:27:23 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 02/04/2023 23:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 17:08:08 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

Some electrified lines were 6.25kV AC instead of 25kV (due to
bridge clearance issues) and the trains had to switch voltage
very quickly when
they transitioned. I think they are all 25kV (for overhead
lines) now, so they must have changed something: perhaps they
lowered the tracks.

Putting 25kV into something expecting 6.25kV could cause a the
smoke to come out.

They switched voltage automatically.

If it\'s running on 6.25kV, how do you switch it before everything
blows up?

The practice of using different voltage levels on electrified railway
lines in the UK is known as \"multi-system electrification\" and was
introduced in the mid-20th century to allow trains to operate across
different parts of the network that were electrified using different
technologies.

The use of multiple voltage levels on electrified railway lines in
the UK gradually declined over the years, and by the 1980s, most of
the multi-system electrification had been replaced by a standard
voltage of 25kV. However, some sections of the network continued to
use different voltage levels until the 2000s.

The process of switching between voltage levels was done using
on-board electrical equipment known as \"multi-system locomotives\" or
\"dual-voltage trains\". These trains were designed to be able to
operate on both 25kV and 6.25kV overhead lines and were equipped with
transformers and other electrical equipment that allowed them to
switch between the two voltage levels as they travelled along the
track.

The reliability of multi-system electrification was generally good,
although there were occasional issues with the switching equipment
on-board the trains, which could cause delays and disruptions to
services. Over time, improvements in technology and the gradual
phasing out of multi-system electrification has resulted in a more
reliable and efficient railway network in the UK.


Thameslink still uses 25kV on the northern section and third-rail DC
south of Kentish Town. The arc when the pantograph drops is usually
quite impressive.

You\'d think they\'d power down before dropping.
 
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:22:31 +0100, ChatGPT <chatgpt@example.com> wrote:

On 12/04/2023 14:05, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:27:23 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 02/04/2023 23:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 17:08:08 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

Some electrified lines were 6.25kV AC instead of 25kV (due to bridge
clearance issues) and the trains had to switch voltage very quickly
when
they transitioned. I think they are all 25kV (for overhead lines) now,
so they must have changed something: perhaps they lowered the tracks.

Putting 25kV into something expecting 6.25kV could cause a the smoke to
come out.

They switched voltage automatically.

If it\'s running on 6.25kV, how do you switch it before everything blows up?

The practice of using different voltage levels on electrified railway
lines in the UK is known as \"multi-system electrification\" and was
introduced in the mid-20th century to allow trains to operate across
different parts of the network that were electrified using different
technologies.

The use of multiple voltage levels on electrified railway lines in the
UK gradually declined over the years, and by the 1980s, most of the
multi-system electrification had been replaced by a standard voltage of
25kV. However, some sections of the network continued to use different
voltage levels until the 2000s.

The process of switching between voltage levels was done using on-board
electrical equipment known as \"multi-system locomotives\" or
\"dual-voltage trains\". These trains were designed to be able to operate
on both 25kV and 6.25kV overhead lines and were equipped with
transformers and other electrical equipment that allowed them to switch
between the two voltage levels as they travelled along the track.

The reliability of multi-system electrification was generally good,
although there were occasional issues with the switching equipment
on-board the trains, which could cause delays and disruptions to
services. Over time, improvements in technology and the gradual phasing
out of multi-system electrification has resulted in a more reliable and
efficient railway network in the UK.

I still can\'t imagine what happens when suddenly 25kV goes into what\'s connected up for 6.25kV.
 
On 25/04/2023 20:38, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:02:00 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 12/04/2023 14:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:
On 03/04/2023 18:17, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/04/2023 23:50, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:58:53 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

This is why we can\'t have proper double decker passenger trains
in the
UK. There were these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Class_4DD but
they
were only one-an-a-half deckers. I used to travel on them
sometimes; I
didn\'t realise they only made two trains like that.

How the hell did that work?  Did they put short people on the top
deck?

No, they just kind of sat on the lower deck people\'s heads. I can\'t
find
a diagram.

I found something for you after all:
https://www.bloodandcustard.com/BR-4DD_files/image003.jpg

There were steps leading to the upper deck between the lower seats. The
upper deck had a high level window which couldn\'t be opened, which
meant
ventilation was poor.

Looks an efficient way of cramming people in like sardines.  Until you
factor in the wasted space for the stairs.

They were never very popular. I only used them on a \"reverse commute\"

A what?

I worked further away from central London than I lived, so the trains
were almost empty.

--
Max Demian
 
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 11:39:08 +0100, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:


I worked further away from central London than I lived, so the trains
were almost empty.

WTF has your senile shit got to do with the three ngs you keep trashing, you
idiotic senile troll?
 
On 22/3/2023 6:01 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 19:57:03 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 18:20:35 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 02:05:11 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:30:39 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 03:09:14 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 15:05:31 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Why were they never made of something more grippy than highly
polished
steel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway

Should be used on all tracks, then perhaps trains could stop in the
distance my car is required to by law.

Do the math.

If I did the maths I\'d get a more complete answer.

A fully laden coal car weighs about 140 tons. I\'ve never been
bored enough to count cars when I stopped at a crossing but there are a
lot of them. Let\'s say 30 for the sake of argument, 4200 tons plus the
weight of the engines. Let\'s say 4 at 200 tons each. So, roughly
5000 tons
traveling at 50 mph. That\'s quite a bit of kinetic energy to dump in
300\'.
I can hear snapping axles and see flying wheels.

But there are many wheels.

A fully laden truck/lorry/whatever you call them over there can\'t
stop as quick as a car, but it can stop in a safe distance.  A train
cannot, it\'s not fit for purpose.  If something unexpected happens,
it just ploughs through it.  Trains are outdated technology and it\'s
high time we got rid of them.  Maybe a maglev can stop quicker?

Trains are about 5x as efficient as trucks for moving stuff.

Depends which statistic you believe.  And trains can only go where there
are tracks, so much loading and unloading and messing about at both ends.

Has maglev ever really worked? Most maglev systems came and went.

I thought all Japanese trains were maglev.  You get a refund if you\'re
more than 10 seconds late.

You think a lot of things, most of them quite fanciful.
--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
 
On Wed, 10 May 2023 19:17:06 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:


> You think a lot of things, most of them quite fanciful.

I hate to say it, but that nutter is not half the nutter that you just
turned out to be, Beno! <BG>
 
On 12/4/2023 11:04 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 03/04/2023 18:17, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/04/2023 23:50, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:58:53 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 22/03/2023 09:00, SteveW wrote:
On 22/03/2023 00:23, Bob F wrote:
On 3/21/2023 4:24 PM, SteveW wrote:

Containers go on trains here, but not usually entire trailers.
Due to
being the first to develop railways, they were mainly built with
bridges and tunnels too small to allow that.


They double stack containers here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-stack_rail_transport

Yes, I\'ve seen them before.

As you can see here: http://igg.org.uk/gansg/2-track/ukavgauge.jpg
the
AVERAGE loading gauge in England is far smaller. Some lines are
smaller
still and require locos and rolling stock with reduced height and/or
width.

This is why we can\'t have proper double decker passenger trains in the
UK. There were these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Class_4DD but
they
were only one-an-a-half deckers. I used to travel on them sometimes; I
didn\'t realise they only made two trains like that.

How the hell did that work?  Did they put short people on the top deck?

No, they just kind of sat on the lower deck people\'s heads. I can\'t find
a diagram.

I found something for you after all:
https://www.bloodandcustard.com/BR-4DD_files/image003.jpg

There were steps leading to the upper deck between the lower seats. The
upper deck had a high level window which couldn\'t be opened, which meant
ventilation was poor.

Looks an efficient way of cramming people in like sardines.  Until you
factor in the wasted space for the stairs.

Stairs? There\'s no stairs! Those pesky passengers on top have to climb
up to their seats. That\'s why there\'s always a big rush at the doors -
first in, best dressed on the lower seats.

--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
 
On Wed, 10 May 2023 19:22:47 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:


> Stairs? There\'s no stairs!

Brains? There\'s no brains in either of you! LOL
 

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