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On Sun, 10 May 2020 15:37:19 +0200, jeff wrote:

zygimantaslaurutis@gmail.com> wrote:

In conclusion- i should deliver vacuum to my IG-102? Or should i
connect compressed air and it makes vacuum by itself?

Does a simple solder sucker not suffice?
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If the OP already has a Weller desoldering station I can understand
why he wants to use it. That stuff is top notch quality.

As for how to use the IG-102, I believe it internally converts
positive pressure into negative one, therefore a simple air
compressor should suffice. Corrections welcome if I\'m wrong.
 
On Sun, 10 May 2020 15:37:19 +0200, jeff wrote:

zygimantaslaurutis@gmail.com> wrote:

In conclusion- i should deliver vacuum to my IG-102? Or should i
connect compressed air and it makes vacuum by itself?

Does a simple solder sucker not suffice?
Click to expand...

If the OP already has a Weller desoldering station I can understand
why he wants to use it. That stuff is top notch quality.

As for how to use the IG-102, I believe it internally converts
positive pressure into negative one, therefore a simple air
compressor should suffice. Corrections welcome if I\'m wrong.
 
On 2020-05-10 17:29, Cydrome Leader wrote:
jjhudak4@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 11:40:01 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
jjhudak4@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:15:11 PM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 12:23:53 PM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a few Fluke DMMs that I want to get backup probes for.
My ideal probe is one that will accept screw-on accessories such as various size alligator clips, micro-clips, and mounting lugs.
A \'kit\' with all of these accessories would be idea.
Would like the probes to be decent quality. The closer to OEM Fluke or Pomona quality with more reasonable prices is what I have in mind.

Most of the aftermarket stuff on ebay seems to be junk. I did some searching on aftermarket probe sets and found this one which seems to be a good match to what I am looking for.
https://probemaster.com/8000-series-kits/
I\'ve checked some of the electronic suppliers that I know of (Globe, Newark, etc.)
and have found a few options but not sure how good they are.

Suggestions for alternatives or other potential suppliers are welcome.
Thanks
J


Thanks to all that posted. I followed up on all the suggestions. For my Fluke meters and my intended use, the 8043s seemed to be the best fit. Also ordered some additional probe tips.
J

As a follow-up: Just received the test lead/probe kit from Probemaster...at first blush, they are *GREAT* nice sharp points, 1000V isolation, and the threads for the screw-on attachements (~5 turns) seem sturdy. the attachments seat and snug-up well. Fit and finish are excellent with my Fluke meters.
Just what I was looking for.
Thanks again.
J

how flexible are the leads? Are they more rubbery/silicone-like or more
like soft PVC?

The sample size is two, but I noticed my ~5 year old Fluke probes seems
more flexible than the newer ones. Part numbers are the same.

That is a hard question for me to answer. I would say they are fairly flexible. I would add that the lead wires are \'supple\' and more flexible than the standard lead wires that came with my 2 year old Fluke 179.

The leads on my 30 yo Fluke 77 are more rubbery in texture/feel. The probemaster leads are also more flexible that those of the 77.

Rubber/silicon or PVC. I would say more like silicon. My perception of PCV is that it is stiffer, somewhat plastic-like. (like the leads that came with my cheap extech that I keep in my car repair tool box)
Hope that helps
J

They sound like nice leads. I really don\'t like test leads that feel
stiff, like old crappy automotive jumper cables. cheaper leads seem to
have a memory or sorts. If you bunch or fold them up they stay sort of
bent or kinked, even if you let them hang off a hook to relax.
Click to expand...

They\'re nice supple silicone. I use them exclusively--for $17 a pair
they\'ll change your life (in a small way, admittedly, but a good one).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 2020-05-10 17:29, Cydrome Leader wrote:
jjhudak4@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 11:40:01 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
jjhudak4@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:15:11 PM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 12:23:53 PM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a few Fluke DMMs that I want to get backup probes for.
My ideal probe is one that will accept screw-on accessories such as various size alligator clips, micro-clips, and mounting lugs.
A \'kit\' with all of these accessories would be idea.
Would like the probes to be decent quality. The closer to OEM Fluke or Pomona quality with more reasonable prices is what I have in mind.

Most of the aftermarket stuff on ebay seems to be junk. I did some searching on aftermarket probe sets and found this one which seems to be a good match to what I am looking for.
https://probemaster.com/8000-series-kits/
I\'ve checked some of the electronic suppliers that I know of (Globe, Newark, etc.)
and have found a few options but not sure how good they are.

Suggestions for alternatives or other potential suppliers are welcome.
Thanks
J


Thanks to all that posted. I followed up on all the suggestions. For my Fluke meters and my intended use, the 8043s seemed to be the best fit. Also ordered some additional probe tips.
J

As a follow-up: Just received the test lead/probe kit from Probemaster...at first blush, they are *GREAT* nice sharp points, 1000V isolation, and the threads for the screw-on attachements (~5 turns) seem sturdy. the attachments seat and snug-up well. Fit and finish are excellent with my Fluke meters.
Just what I was looking for.
Thanks again.
J

how flexible are the leads? Are they more rubbery/silicone-like or more
like soft PVC?

The sample size is two, but I noticed my ~5 year old Fluke probes seems
more flexible than the newer ones. Part numbers are the same.

That is a hard question for me to answer. I would say they are fairly flexible. I would add that the lead wires are \'supple\' and more flexible than the standard lead wires that came with my 2 year old Fluke 179.

The leads on my 30 yo Fluke 77 are more rubbery in texture/feel. The probemaster leads are also more flexible that those of the 77.

Rubber/silicon or PVC. I would say more like silicon. My perception of PCV is that it is stiffer, somewhat plastic-like. (like the leads that came with my cheap extech that I keep in my car repair tool box)
Hope that helps
J

They sound like nice leads. I really don\'t like test leads that feel
stiff, like old crappy automotive jumper cables. cheaper leads seem to
have a memory or sorts. If you bunch or fold them up they stay sort of
bent or kinked, even if you let them hang off a hook to relax.
Click to expand...

They\'re nice supple silicone. I use them exclusively--for $17 a pair
they\'ll change your life (in a small way, admittedly, but a good one).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 11:28:44 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-10 17:29, Cydrome Leader wrote:

They sound like nice leads. I really don\'t like test leads that feel
stiff, like old crappy automotive jumper cables. cheaper leads seem to
have a memory or sorts. If you bunch or fold them up they stay sort of
bent or kinked, even if you let them hang off a hook to relax.

They\'re nice supple silicone. I use them exclusively--for $17 a pair
they\'ll change your life (in a small way, admittedly, but a good one).
Click to expand...

Didn\'t Pomona make some Probes for Fluke?
 
On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 11:28:44 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-10 17:29, Cydrome Leader wrote:

They sound like nice leads. I really don\'t like test leads that feel
stiff, like old crappy automotive jumper cables. cheaper leads seem to
have a memory or sorts. If you bunch or fold them up they stay sort of
bent or kinked, even if you let them hang off a hook to relax.

They\'re nice supple silicone. I use them exclusively--for $17 a pair
they\'ll change your life (in a small way, admittedly, but a good one).
Click to expand...

Didn\'t Pomona make some Probes for Fluke?
 
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 5:33:48 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 11:28:44 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-10 17:29, Cydrome Leader wrote:

They sound like nice leads. I really don\'t like test leads that feel
stiff, like old crappy automotive jumper cables. cheaper leads seem to
have a memory or sorts. If you bunch or fold them up they stay sort of
bent or kinked, even if you let them hang off a hook to relax.

They\'re nice supple silicone. I use them exclusively--for $17 a pair
they\'ll change your life (in a small way, admittedly, but a good one).


Didn\'t Pomona make some Probes for Fluke?
Click to expand...

They do.
I think they make high quality products.
Their probe that has the interchangeable tips us the \'banana plug\' style arrangement on which one slides on different tips.

From my perspective, the expanded metal gets weak over time and the tips dont maintain contact very well. One can always bend the metal back out and this lasts for some time, the metal has weakened and the probe tip doesn\'t stay on very long. One can repeat the cycle but each iteration results in a decrease in time the probe tip is securely attached to the lead.

I wanted the screw-on tips. (I think Simpson promoted this style).
J

 
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 5:33:48 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 11:28:44 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-10 17:29, Cydrome Leader wrote:

They sound like nice leads. I really don\'t like test leads that feel
stiff, like old crappy automotive jumper cables. cheaper leads seem to
have a memory or sorts. If you bunch or fold them up they stay sort of
bent or kinked, even if you let them hang off a hook to relax.

They\'re nice supple silicone. I use them exclusively--for $17 a pair
they\'ll change your life (in a small way, admittedly, but a good one).


Didn\'t Pomona make some Probes for Fluke?
Click to expand...

They do.
I think they make high quality products.
Their probe that has the interchangeable tips us the \'banana plug\' style arrangement on which one slides on different tips.

From my perspective, the expanded metal gets weak over time and the tips dont maintain contact very well. One can always bend the metal back out and this lasts for some time, the metal has weakened and the probe tip doesn\'t stay on very long. One can repeat the cycle but each iteration results in a decrease in time the probe tip is securely attached to the lead.

I wanted the screw-on tips. (I think Simpson promoted this style).
J

 
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 9:05:33 AM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 5:33:48 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 11:28:44 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-10 17:29, Cydrome Leader wrote:

They sound like nice leads. I really don\'t like test leads that feel
stiff, like old crappy automotive jumper cables. cheaper leads seem to
have a memory or sorts. If you bunch or fold them up they stay sort of
bent or kinked, even if you let them hang off a hook to relax.

They\'re nice supple silicone. I use them exclusively--for $17 a pair
they\'ll change your life (in a small way, admittedly, but a good one)..


Didn\'t Pomona make some Probes for Fluke?

They do.
I think they make high quality products.
Their probe that has the interchangeable tips us the \'banana plug\' style arrangement on which one slides on different tips.

From my perspective, the expanded metal gets weak over time and the tips dont maintain contact very well. One can always bend the metal back out and this lasts for some time, the metal has weakened and the probe tip doesn\'t stay on very long. One can repeat the cycle but each iteration results in a decrease in time the probe tip is securely attached to the lead.

I wanted the screw-on tips. (I think Simpson promoted this style).
J
Click to expand...

I always liked the H.H. Smith probes that held a steel 78RPM needle in a tiny collet. When the point got dull, it was just a few cents for a new needle. The sharp tip would penetrate the surface of the solder joint, and make good contact even if the surface was oxidized. The early ones were machined fiber tubing. Later ones were injection molded. I found some with a sharp, gold plated tip on Ebay, but the tip isn\'t replaceable. They aren\'t too bad, and they are handy on fine pitch ICs.
 
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 9:05:33 AM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 5:33:48 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 11:28:44 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-10 17:29, Cydrome Leader wrote:

They sound like nice leads. I really don\'t like test leads that feel
stiff, like old crappy automotive jumper cables. cheaper leads seem to
have a memory or sorts. If you bunch or fold them up they stay sort of
bent or kinked, even if you let them hang off a hook to relax.

They\'re nice supple silicone. I use them exclusively--for $17 a pair
they\'ll change your life (in a small way, admittedly, but a good one)..


Didn\'t Pomona make some Probes for Fluke?

They do.
I think they make high quality products.
Their probe that has the interchangeable tips us the \'banana plug\' style arrangement on which one slides on different tips.

From my perspective, the expanded metal gets weak over time and the tips dont maintain contact very well. One can always bend the metal back out and this lasts for some time, the metal has weakened and the probe tip doesn\'t stay on very long. One can repeat the cycle but each iteration results in a decrease in time the probe tip is securely attached to the lead.

I wanted the screw-on tips. (I think Simpson promoted this style).
J
Click to expand...

I always liked the H.H. Smith probes that held a steel 78RPM needle in a tiny collet. When the point got dull, it was just a few cents for a new needle. The sharp tip would penetrate the surface of the solder joint, and make good contact even if the surface was oxidized. The early ones were machined fiber tubing. Later ones were injection molded. I found some with a sharp, gold plated tip on Ebay, but the tip isn\'t replaceable. They aren\'t too bad, and they are handy on fine pitch ICs.
 
On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 9:58:30 AM UTC-4, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 9:14:17 AM UTC-4, vhm....@gmail.com wrote:
I have the same problem, Sony reciever str-av570, that keeps going into protect mode intermittently, even when
the reciever is off, will intermittently do relay click and loudness amber led(s) on the front will glow gradually,
off, and repeat till I unplug it. Back in 2003-2004, I took my reciever to a authorized sony service center that
did not know how to fix it

Would you spend the money to train somebody to fix something like that 18 years later - especially when you could be addressing more late-model stuff? (I\'m just sayin\')
Click to expand...

Well just saying, this information exactly describes the problem in 2020 of my str-av570, so now that I have found the helpful notes, I will give it a try. I think their comments are completely current.
 
On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 9:58:30 AM UTC-4, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 9:14:17 AM UTC-4, vhm....@gmail.com wrote:
I have the same problem, Sony reciever str-av570, that keeps going into protect mode intermittently, even when
the reciever is off, will intermittently do relay click and loudness amber led(s) on the front will glow gradually,
off, and repeat till I unplug it. Back in 2003-2004, I took my reciever to a authorized sony service center that
did not know how to fix it

Would you spend the money to train somebody to fix something like that 18 years later - especially when you could be addressing more late-model stuff? (I\'m just sayin\')
Click to expand...

Well just saying, this information exactly describes the problem in 2020 of my str-av570, so now that I have found the helpful notes, I will give it a try. I think their comments are completely current.
 
On Friday, May 25, 2012 at 10:56:49 PM UTC-7, Mexa wrote:

I have search all over the web, but i cant find any info about the
IG-102.
Click to expand...

The catalog mentions a bunch of IG components, to be used with
a flow of inert gas (up to 5L/minute).
 
On Friday, May 25, 2012 at 10:56:49 PM UTC-7, Mexa wrote:

I have search all over the web, but i cant find any info about the
IG-102.
Click to expand...

The catalog mentions a bunch of IG components, to be used with
a flow of inert gas (up to 5L/minute).
 
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 1:41:50 PM UTC-7, jeff wrote:
> my wifi router locks up a lot

In addition to Jeff Lieberman\'s list, look up the router and find out if there\'s a firmware update.
That smooths out a LOT of wrinkles (and might unload a few types of malware, as well).
 
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 1:41:50 PM UTC-7, jeff wrote:
> my wifi router locks up a lot

In addition to Jeff Lieberman\'s list, look up the router and find out if there\'s a firmware update.
That smooths out a LOT of wrinkles (and might unload a few types of malware, as well).
 
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-6, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/04/20 12:04 a.m., Mike Mocha wrote:
Wow! I just got back on Usenet after literally 18+ years and it\'s great
to see this is one of the last text groups still active with real people
talking! Good to see Sam Goldwasser and others still on here. Sam
incorporated a \"tip\" I made regarding vacuum tube televisions on his TV
FAQ back in 1997! I had a lot of great memories lurking and posting in
this group from 1995 to 1997. Thanks all!


Welcome back! Were you trapped on a desert island with only a volleyball
for company?

John ;-#)#

--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John\'s Jukes Ltd.
MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
\"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out.\"
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I am glad as well. Back in the 1990\'s and 2000\'s, I used Usenet groups all the time. Most of the ones that are used are no longer active.
 
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-6, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/04/20 12:04 a.m., Mike Mocha wrote:
Wow! I just got back on Usenet after literally 18+ years and it\'s great
to see this is one of the last text groups still active with real people
talking! Good to see Sam Goldwasser and others still on here. Sam
incorporated a \"tip\" I made regarding vacuum tube televisions on his TV
FAQ back in 1997! I had a lot of great memories lurking and posting in
this group from 1995 to 1997. Thanks all!


Welcome back! Were you trapped on a desert island with only a volleyball
for company?

John ;-#)#

--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John\'s Jukes Ltd.
MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
\"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out.\"
Click to expand...

I am glad as well. Back in the 1990\'s and 2000\'s, I used Usenet groups all the time. Most of the ones that are used are no longer active.
 
On Monday, 20 April 2020 17:39:10 UTC+2, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/04/20 12:04 a.m., Mike Mocha wrote:
Wow! I just got back on Usenet after literally 18+ years and it\'s great
to see this is one of the last text groups still active with real people
talking! Good to see Sam Goldwasser and others still on here.
Click to expand...

Likewise. This is the first time I\'ve been on here for at least a decade!
regards, b.
 
On Monday, 20 April 2020 17:39:10 UTC+2, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/04/20 12:04 a.m., Mike Mocha wrote:
Wow! I just got back on Usenet after literally 18+ years and it\'s great
to see this is one of the last text groups still active with real people
talking! Good to see Sam Goldwasser and others still on here.
Click to expand...

Likewise. This is the first time I\'ve been on here for at least a decade!
regards, b.
 
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