laptop surges mains

"felix_unger" <me@nothere.com> wrote in message
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On 19-December-2012 12:52 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote
SG1 wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the lounge.
Much more comfortable during the daylight hours. Favorite chair,
wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food & grog???

most probably a laptop.

Nope, still use the desktop for everything except listening to mostly RN
programs when bottling the beer.
else how could he see the screen?

Two much bigger screens than any laptop has, stupid.

I'm not stupid for not knowing what equipment you have, but you're rude
and obnoxious. that's well established.
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You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag, stupid.
 
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the
surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the
house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having
left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only
thing I
can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If
the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power
supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through
eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some
water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in the
house
such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also be
the case.

VERY unlikely.

When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the power
circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use, causing the
circuit breaker to trip

VERY unlikely that they are both on the same circuit and the breaker
wont be a 10A breaker either,

Yes it will if the aircon is on the power circuit

Nope, because the charger takes fuck all more power.

You get more variation with the compressor coming on and off.

I was talking about the circuit breaker, stupid.
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So was I, cretin.

It *will* be a 10amp breaker if the aircon is on a normal domestic power
circuit
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Wrong, as always. Normal domestic power circuits have 15A breakers, you pig
ignorant clown.
 
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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the lounge.

Never did compute from the bedroom. Don’t even read there anymore.

Much more comfortable during the daylight hours.

And even non daylight hours for computing and reading.

Favorite chair, wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food &
grog???

Already got that with the food, the kids I just taught to drive.
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You are braver than I, always left that to SWMBO.

 
On 19-December-2012 3:20 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
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On 19-December-2012 12:48 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


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On 18-December-2012 7:31 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house,
the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in
the house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to
having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the
only thing I
can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the
CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached.
If the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your
power supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar.
Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage
through eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate?
Some water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in
the house
such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also
be the case.

VERY unlikely.

When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the power
circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use, causing
the circuit breaker to trip

VERY unlikely that they are both on the same circuit and the breaker
wont be a 10A breaker either,

Yes it will if the aircon is on the power circuit

Nope, because the charger takes fuck all more power.

You get more variation with the compressor coming on and off.

I was talking about the circuit breaker, stupid.

So was I, cretin.

It *will* be a 10amp breaker if the aircon is on a normal domestic
power circuit

Wrong, as always. Normal domestic power circuits have 15A breakers,
you pig ignorant clown.
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Seems that you're a 'pig ignorant clown' also then (as well as rude and
obnoxious) since I just checked the PB and they're 20a
 
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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote

More often than not they get roasting hot just by themselves,

None of mine do.

especially when powering a running laptop with the battery demanding
charging.

Ditto.

I've had 4 that do, and none that don't. HP/Compaq and Toshiba

Don’t believe it given that none of those of mine get anything like that
hot.

OK. For some odd reason I'm telling fibs.

Nope, just wildly exaggerating with
that mindlessly silly 'roasting hot' claim.

Not all the time, just when running on power when battery is low.

Still complete and utter drivel.

Yep, I've been hallucinating.

Nope, just wildly exaggerating with
that mindlessly silly 'roasting hot' claim.

You can't even manage a consistent line in mindless bullshit on that
last.

Fuck you too arsehole.

Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, child.

At the top, you claimed they get 'roasting hot' whether they are
recharging the battery or not. Then later when you get called on
that utterly mindless silly shit, you then claim that they only get
'roasting hot' when charging the battery.
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I guess you didn't do too well at reading comprehension then.

Suggest you don't judge others by your (apparently low) standards, such as
accusing people of lying (for whatever bizarre reason) .

geoff
 
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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the lounge.

Never did compute from the bedroom. Don’t even read there anymore.

Much more comfortable during the daylight hours.

And even non daylight hours for computing and reading.

Favorite chair, wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food &
grog???

Already got that with the food, the kids I just taught to drive.
Click to expand...
You're eating the kids you taught to drive ? Isn't that illegal ?

geoff
 
"felix_unger" <me@nothere.com> wrote in message
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On 19-December-2012 3:20 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

I was talking about the circuit breaker, stupid.

So was I, cretin.

It *will* be a 10amp breaker if the aircon is on a normal domestic power
circuit

Wrong, as always. Normal domestic power circuits have 15A breakers, you
pig ignorant clown.

Seems that you're a 'pig ignorant clown' also then (as well as rude and
obnoxious) since I just checked the PB and they're 20a
Click to expand...

Maybe Phil Allison has a sock-puppet ?

geoff
 
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On 18-December-2012 5:24 PM, Clocky wrote:
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On 17-December-2012 1:13 PM, Chris Read wrote:
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house,
the surge protector is triggered which causes most power
points in the house to lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to
having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only
thing I can
think of.


did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is
tripping the CBR. 3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power
supply attached.
If
the CBR trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's
your power supply. 4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8
at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through
eBay. Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from
the manufacturer, $100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey
Norman.
The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some
water has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot
of power in the house such as the air con?
Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also
be the case. When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current
in the power circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in
use, causing the circuit breaker to trip
That's 2400Watts, so not very likely..

He mentioned aircon running, so it's possible.

Nope, because they wont be on the same circuit.

Used to happen here with the heater going, and then turning on the
jug or microwave,

Those last two are a lot higher current devices than a laptop charger
and there are fuck all aircons that are legally on the same circuit as
GPOs anyway.

until I got the another feed for one of the powerpoints.

Nothing like his situation.
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Shit, we agree on something ;-)
 
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Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the lounge.

Never did compute from the bedroom. Don't even read there anymore.

Much more comfortable during the daylight hours.

And even non daylight hours for computing and reading.

Favorite chair, wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food &
grog???

Already got that with the food, the kids I just taught to drive.


You're eating the kids you taught to drive ? Isn't that illegal ?

geoff
Only if you get caught. The human equivalent of mad cow disease can be got
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if you eat the brain.
 
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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the lounge.

Never did compute from the bedroom. Don’t even read there anymore.

Much more comfortable during the daylight hours.

And even non daylight hours for computing and reading.

Favorite chair, wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food &
grog???

Already got that with the food, the kids I just taught to drive.

You are braver than I, always left that to SWMBO.
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His dad is a raving loony and her parents are back in china.

Pretty effortless really, tho it did take quite a bit of time.
 
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geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote

More often than not they get roasting hot just by themselves,

None of mine do.

especially when powering a running laptop with the battery demanding
charging.

Ditto.

I've had 4 that do, and none that don't. HP/Compaq and Toshiba

Don’t believe it given that none of those of mine get anything like
that hot.

OK. For some odd reason I'm telling fibs.

Nope, just wildly exaggerating with
that mindlessly silly 'roasting hot' claim.

Not all the time, just when running on power when battery is low.

Still complete and utter drivel.

Yep, I've been hallucinating.

Nope, just wildly exaggerating with
that mindlessly silly 'roasting hot' claim.

You can't even manage a consistent line in mindless bullshit on that
last.

Fuck you too arsehole.

Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, child.

At the top, you claimed they get 'roasting hot' whether they are
recharging the battery or not. Then later when you get called on
that utterly mindless silly shit, you then claim that they only get
'roasting hot' when charging the battery.

I guess you didn't do too well at reading comprehension then.
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Everyone can see for themselves that you never
could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

Suggest you don't judge others by your (apparently low) standards, such as
accusing people of lying (for whatever bizarre reason) .
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Everyone can see for themselves just who is lying, liar.
 
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Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the lounge.

Never did compute from the bedroom. Don’t even read there anymore.

Much more comfortable during the daylight hours.

And even non daylight hours for computing and reading.

Favorite chair, wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food &
grog???

Already got that with the food, the kids I just taught to drive.


You're eating the kids you taught to drive ?
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Presumably you actually are that stupid.

They live in the granny flat at the back of my next door
neighbours and she is one hell of a cook and they bring
food because I taught them to drive and they got their
licenses in very close to the minimum time possible, fool.

Isn't that illegal ?
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Unfortunately it isnt illegal to spawn fools like you.

It should be.
 
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On 19-December-2012 3:20 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house,
the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the
house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to
having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only
thing I
can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the
CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If
the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power
supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar.
Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through
eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate?
Some water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in
the house
such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also be
the case.

VERY unlikely.

When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the power
circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use, causing
the circuit breaker to trip

VERY unlikely that they are both on the same circuit and the breaker
wont be a 10A breaker either,

Yes it will if the aircon is on the power circuit

Nope, because the charger takes fuck all more power.

You get more variation with the compressor coming on and off.

I was talking about the circuit breaker, stupid.

So was I, cretin.

It *will* be a 10amp breaker if the aircon is on a normal domestic power
circuit

Wrong, as always. Normal domestic power circuits have 15A breakers, you
pig ignorant clown.

Seems that you're a 'pig ignorant clown' also then
Click to expand...
We'll see...

since I just checked the PB and they're 20a
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You were warned about the furious desperate wanking, child.
 
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:37:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

You were warned about the furious desperate wanking, child.
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He's still alive :)
 
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You were warned about the furious desperate wanking, child.

He's still alive :)
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But clearly completely blind.
 
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house,
the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the
house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to
having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only
thing I
can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If
the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power
supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through
eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some
water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in
the house
such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also
be the case.

VERY unlikely.

When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the power
circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use, causing
the circuit breaker to trip

VERY unlikely that they are both on the same circuit and the breaker
wont be a 10A breaker either,

Yes it will if the aircon is on the power circuit

Nope, because the charger takes fuck all more power.

You get more variation with the compressor coming on and off.

I was talking about the circuit breaker, stupid. (to use your
terminology) It *will* be a 10amp breaker if the aircon is on a normal
domestic power circuit



In NSW AUSTRALIA it may be 15 or 16 even 20a on a circuit of 10 amp GPOs
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Chris Read wrote:
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house,
the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the
house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to
having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only
thing I
can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the
CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If
the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power
supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar.
Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through
eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some
water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in
the house
such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also
be the case.

VERY unlikely.

When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the power
circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use, causing
the circuit breaker to trip

VERY unlikely that they are both on the same circuit and the breaker
wont be a 10A breaker either,

Yes it will if the aircon is on the power circuit

Nope, because the charger takes fuck all more power.

You get more variation with the compressor coming on and off.

I was talking about the circuit breaker, stupid. (to use your
terminology) It *will* be a 10amp breaker if the aircon is on a normal
domestic power circuit



In NSW AUSTRALIA it may be 15 or 16 even 20a on a circuit of 10 amp GPOs
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Just checked the "fuse" box. 10 amps for lighting and 20 amps each for the 2
power circuits.
Located in Qld.
 
On 19/12/2012 11:31 PM, F Murtz wrote:
felix_unger wrote:

In NSW AUSTRALIA it may be 15 or 16 even 20a on a circuit of 10 amp GPOs
Click to expand...

Or 25A or 32A (or even 40A) according to AS3000:2007 table C8 depending
upon cable rating.

Circuit breaker is there to protect the fixed wiring from overheating,
and rating is determined by cable size, cable installation method (ie
temperature rise), and voltage drop considerations. The circuit breaker
in the switchboard is not designed to protect the appliance connected to
a socket outlet.
 
On 2012-12-19, geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote:
Maybe Phil Allison has a sock-puppet ?
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Nah, these are two different people.

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On 21/12/2012 2:20 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2012-12-19, geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote:

Maybe Phil Allison has a sock-puppet ?


Nah, these are two different people.

Philthys had so many people massage his prostrate he is a socked puppet
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