laptop surges mains

[felix_unger]

On 17-December-2012 1:13 PM, Chris Read wrote:

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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only thing I
can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in the house
such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also be the
case. When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the power
circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use, causing the
circuit breaker to trip

--
rgds,

Pete
-------
“If Julia is the answer, then what was the stupid question?!”

"If the WORLD as a whole cut ALL emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet's not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps over on thousand years" - Tim Flannery, Climate Commissioner

 

[Clocky]

felix_unger wrote:

On 17-December-2012 1:13 PM, Chris Read wrote:
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Chris Read wrote:
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the
surge protector is triggered which causes most power points in
the house to lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to
having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only
thing I can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping
the CBR. 3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached.
If
the CBR trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your
power supply. 4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar.
Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through
eBay. Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer, $100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some
water has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power
in the house such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also be
the case. When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the
power circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use,
causing the circuit breaker to trip

That's 2400Watts, so not very likely..

 

[felix_unger]

On 18-December-2012 5:24 PM, Clocky wrote:

felix_unger wrote:
On 17-December-2012 1:13 PM, Chris Read wrote:
"Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Chris Read" <chris_read@yahoo.com.nospam> wrote in message
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Chris Read wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:aj5srjFprfsU1@mid.individual.net...
On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the
surge protector is triggered which causes most power points in
the house to lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to
having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only
thing I can
think of.


did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping
the CBR. 3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached.
If
the CBR trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your
power supply. 4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar.
Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through
eBay. Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer, $100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some
water has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power
in the house such as the air con?
Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also be
the case. When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the
power circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use,
causing the circuit breaker to trip
That's 2400Watts, so not very likely..

He mentioned aircon running, so it's possible. Used to happen here with
the heater going, and then turning on the jug or microwave, until I got
the another feed for one of the powerpoints.

--
rgds,

Pete
-------
“If Julia is the answer, then what was the stupid question?!”

"If the WORLD as a whole cut ALL emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet's not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps over on thousand years" - Tim Flannery, Climate Commissioner

 

[Rod Speed]

"felix_unger" <me@nothere.com> wrote in message
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On 17-December-2012 1:13 PM, Chris Read wrote:
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Chris Read wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the
surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house
to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having
left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only thing I
can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If the
CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power
supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some
water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in the
house
such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also be the
case.

VERY unlikely.

When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the power circuit
to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use, causing the circuit
breaker to trip

VERY unlikely that they are both on the same circuit and the breaker
wont be a 10A breaker either, and it wont trip immediately with a
current that’s just a little over its rated trip current anyway.

 

[Rod Speed]

"felix_unger" <me@nothere.com> wrote in message
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On 18-December-2012 5:24 PM, Clocky wrote:
felix_unger wrote:
On 17-December-2012 1:13 PM, Chris Read wrote:
"Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Chris Read" <chris_read@yahoo.com.nospam> wrote in message
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Chris Read wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:aj5srjFprfsU1@mid.individual.net...
On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the
surge protector is triggered which causes most power points in
the house to lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to
having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only
thing I can
think of.


did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping
the CBR. 3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply
attached.
If
the CBR trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your
power supply. 4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar.
Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through
eBay. Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer, $100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some
water has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power
in the house such as the air con?
Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also be
the case. When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the
power circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use,
causing the circuit breaker to trip
That's 2400Watts, so not very likely..

He mentioned aircon running, so it's possible.

Nope, because they wont be on the same circuit.

Used to happen here with the heater going, and then turning on the jug or
microwave,

Those last two are a lot higher current devices than a laptop charger
and there are fuck all aircons that are legally on the same circuit as
GPOs anyway.

until I got the another feed for one of the powerpoints.

Nothing like his situation.

 

[Krypsis]

On 18/12/2012 10:31 AM, geoff wrote:

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes.

More often than not they get roasting hot just by themselves,

None of mine do.

especially when powering a running laptop with the battery demanding
charging.

Ditto.

I've had 4 that do, and none that don't. HP/Compaq and Toshiba Not all the
time, just when running on power when battery is low.


geoff


Got two Toshibas that run their power supplies hot when running AND

charging. One is a humble old L300 with a 2 GHz Celeron, the other is a
Qosmio with 2 HDDs and a Core 2 Duo processor. I have developed a habit
of suspending the power supply brick so that it is entirely surrounded
by air flow. That keeps it noticeably cooler tha if it's laying on the
table or the floor.

--

Krypsis

 

[geoff]

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geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote

More often than not they get roasting hot just by themselves,

None of mine do.

especially when powering a running laptop with the battery demanding
charging.

Ditto.

I've had 4 that do, and none that don't. HP/Compaq and Toshiba

Don’t believe it given that none of those of mine get anything like that
hot.

OK. For some odd reason I'm telling fibs.

Not all the time, just when running on power when battery is low.

Still complete and utter drivel.

Yep, I've been hallucinating.

You can't even manage a consistent line in mindless bullshit on that last.

Fuck you too arsehole.


geoff

 

[geoff]

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On 18/12/2012 10:31 AM, geoff wrote:

Got two Toshibas that run their power supplies hot when running AND
charging. One is a humble old L300 with a 2 GHz Celeron, the other is a
Qosmio with 2 HDDs and a Core 2 Duo processor. I have developed a habit of
suspending the power supply brick so that it is entirely surrounded by air
flow. That keeps it noticeably cooler tha if it's laying on the table or
the floor.

Naa, you are imagining it. The guy on speed tells us such.

geoff

 

[Rod Speed]

geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote

More often than not they get roasting hot just by themselves,

None of mine do.

especially when powering a running laptop with the battery demanding
charging.

Ditto.

I've had 4 that do, and none that don't. HP/Compaq and Toshiba

Don’t believe it given that none of those of mine get anything like that
hot.

OK. For some odd reason I'm telling fibs.

Nope, just wildly exaggerating with
that mindlessly silly 'roasting hot' claim.

Not all the time, just when running on power when battery is low.

Still complete and utter drivel.

Yep, I've been hallucinating.

Nope, just wildly exaggerating with
that mindlessly silly 'roasting hot' claim.

You can't even manage a consistent line in mindless bullshit on that
last.

Fuck you too arsehole.

Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, child.

At the top, you claimed they get 'roasting hot' whether they are
recharging the battery or not. Then later when you get called on
that utterly mindless silly shit, you then claim that they only get
'roasting hot' when charging the battery.

Like I said, you can't even manage a consistent
line in mindless bullshit on that particular claim.

 

[Rod Speed]

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On 18/12/2012 10:31 AM, geoff wrote:

Got two Toshibas that run their power supplies hot when running AND
charging. One is a humble old L300 with a 2 GHz Celeron, the other is a
Qosmio with 2 HDDs and a Core 2 Duo processor. I have developed a habit
of suspending the power supply brick so that it is entirely surrounded by
air flow. That keeps it noticeably cooler tha if it's laying on the table
or the floor.


Naa, you are imagining it. The guy on speed tells us such.

Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying to your teeth now.

 

[felix_unger]

On 18-December-2012 7:31 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

"felix_unger" <me@nothere.com> wrote in message
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On 17-December-2012 1:13 PM, Chris Read wrote:
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Chris Read wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the
surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the
house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to
having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only
thing I
can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If
the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power
supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some
water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in the
house
such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also be
the case.

VERY unlikely.

When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the power
circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use, causing the
circuit breaker to trip

VERY unlikely that they are both on the same circuit and the breaker
wont be a 10A breaker either,

Yes it will if the aircon is on the power circuit

and it wont trip immediately with a
current that’s just a little over its rated trip current anyway.

--
rgds,

Pete
-------
“If Julia is the answer, then what was the stupid question?!”

"If the WORLD as a whole cut ALL emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet's not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps over on thousand years" - Tim Flannery, Climate Commissioner

 

[SG1]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the lounge. Much
more comfortable during the daylight hours. Favorite chair, wireless KB &
mouse, now for the slave to bring food & grog???

 

[felix_unger]

On 19-December-2012 10:09 AM, SG1 wrote:

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the
lounge. Much more comfortable during the daylight hours. Favorite
chair, wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food & grog???

most probably a laptop. else how could he see the screen?

--
rgds,

Pete
-------
“If Julia is the answer, then what was the stupid question?!”

"If the WORLD as a whole cut ALL emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet's not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps over on thousand years" - Tim Flannery, Climate Commissioner

 

[SG1]

"felix_unger" <me@nothere.com> wrote in message
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On 19-December-2012 10:09 AM, SG1 wrote:

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ajcauqFaf5hU1@mid.individual.net...
Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the lounge.
Much more comfortable during the daylight hours. Favorite chair, wireless
KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food & grog???


most probably a laptop. else how could he see the screen?

42" HD TV

--
rgds,

Pete
-------
“If Julia is the answer, then what was the stupid question?!”

"If the WORLD as a whole cut ALL emissions tomorrow, the average
temperature of the planet's not going to drop for several hundred years,
perhaps over on thousand years" - Tim Flannery, Climate Commissioner

 

[Rod Speed]

"felix_unger" <me@nothere.com> wrote in message
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On 18-December-2012 7:31 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"felix_unger" <me@nothere.com> wrote in message
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On 17-December-2012 1:13 PM, Chris Read wrote:
"Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Chris Read" <chris_read@yahoo.com.nospam> wrote in message
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"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Chris Read wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:aj5srjFprfsU1@mid.individual.net...
On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the
surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the
house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having
left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only thing
I
can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If the
CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power
supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some
water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in the
house
such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also be the
case.

VERY unlikely.

When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the power
circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use, causing the
circuit breaker to trip

VERY unlikely that they are both on the same circuit and the breaker
wont be a 10A breaker either,

Yes it will if the aircon is on the power circuit

Nope, because the charger takes fuck all more power.

You get more variation with the compressor coming on and off.

and it wont trip immediately with a
current that’s just a little over its rated trip current anyway.

 

[Rod Speed]

SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the lounge.

Never did compute from the bedroom. Don’t even read there anymore.

Much more comfortable during the daylight hours.

And even non daylight hours for computing and reading.

Favorite chair, wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food &
grog???

Already got that with the food, the kids I just taught to drive.

 

[Rod Speed]

felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote

SG1 wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the
lounge. Much more comfortable during the daylight hours. Favorite
chair, wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food & grog???

most probably a laptop.

Nope, still use the desktop for everything except listening
to mostly RN programs when bottling the beer.

else how could he see the screen?

Two much bigger screens than any laptop has, stupid.

 

[felix_unger]

On 19-December-2012 11:48 AM, SG1 wrote:

"felix_unger" <me@nothere.com> wrote in message
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On 19-December-2012 10:09 AM, SG1 wrote:

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ajcauqFaf5hU1@mid.individual.net...
Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the
lounge. Much more comfortable during the daylight hours. Favorite
chair, wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food & grog???


most probably a laptop. else how could he see the screen?

42" HD TV

Well he must have good eyesight if he can see the printing on a 42"
screen from another room.


--
rgds,

Pete
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[felix_unger]

On 19-December-2012 12:52 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote
SG1 wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Good to see that you have made the move from the bedroom to the
lounge. Much more comfortable during the daylight hours. Favorite
chair, wireless KB & mouse, now for the slave to bring food & grog???

most probably a laptop.

Nope, still use the desktop for everything except listening to mostly
RN programs when bottling the beer.
else how could he see the screen?

Two much bigger screens than any laptop has, stupid.

I'm not stupid for not knowing what equipment you have, but you're rude
and obnoxious. that's well established.

 

[felix_unger]

On 19-December-2012 12:48 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house,
the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the
house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to
having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only
thing I
can
think of.



did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope

1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path
between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If
the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power
supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through
eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate?
Some water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in
the house
such as the air con?

Apart from what other causes have been mentioned, that could also
be the case.

VERY unlikely.

When you plugged in the laptop it caused the current in the power
circuit to exceed 10amps, due to other appliances in use, causing
the circuit breaker to trip

VERY unlikely that they are both on the same circuit and the breaker
wont be a 10A breaker either,

Yes it will if the aircon is on the power circuit

Nope, because the charger takes fuck all more power.

You get more variation with the compressor coming on and off.

I was talking about the circuit breaker, stupid. (to use your
terminology) It *will* be a 10amp breaker if the aircon is on a normal
domestic power circuit