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All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?
 
On 16/12/2012 10:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?


does it occur when you plug just the psu and not the computer in ?

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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?
Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

Sylvia.
 
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?



Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.
But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only thing I can
think of.
 
Chris Read wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?



Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.


But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only thing I can
think of.

did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
 
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Chris Read wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?



Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.


But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only thing I can
think of.




did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?
Nope
 
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?



Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.


But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only thing I
can
think of.




did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?

Nope


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Chris Read wrote:
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?



Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.


But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only thing I
can
think of.




did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?

Nope
1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is tripping -
not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

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Cognicom
 
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?



Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.

But it's only started happening now.
That’s true of all faults.

The hot car is the only thing I can think of.
Its possible, but unlikely.
 
"Chris Read" <chris_read@yahoo.com.nospam> wrote in message
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All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?

The power supply "line-lump" is probably faulty. Leave it, or just the
'cord' in you hot car is unlikey to be the cause. More often than not they
get roasting hot just by themselves, especially when powering a running
laptop with the battery demanding charging.

geoff
 
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All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to
lose power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?

The power supply "line-lump" is probably faulty. Leave it, or just the
'cord' in you hot car is unlikey to be the cause.
Yes.

More often than not they get roasting hot just by themselves,
None of mine do.

especially when powering a running laptop with the battery demanding
charging.
Ditto.
 
On 16-Dec-12 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?
Do as previous posters have already suggested.

Section isolate:

Plug the cord in.
Does it trip?
Plug the cord and power supply in.
Does it trip?

If yes, then you have isolated your problem.

Don...


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"Chris Read"
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?

** I take it the power cord is 3 core ?

If so, the earth ad neutral conductors have come into contact inside.

That with trip the ELCB instantly, every time you plug the cord into an AC
outlet.



..... Phil
 
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?



Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.


But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only thing I
can
think of.




did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?

Nope


1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the manufacturer,
$100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.
The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate? Some water
has dried up, or something yesterday was using a lot of power in the house
such as the air con?
 
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"Chris Read"

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate?


** You were trolling - as fucking usual.
I can provide a log file proving that my computer was powered off several
times without shutting down. Would that help?
 
"Chris Read"

"Phil Allison"
"Chris Read"

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate?


** You were trolling - as fucking usual.


I can provide a log file proving that my computer was powered off several
times without shutting down. Would that help?

** Of course not - you bullshitting nut case.
 
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On 16/12/2012 11:08 PM, Chris Read wrote:
All of a sudden, now when I plug in my laptop at my house, the surge
protector is triggered which causes most power points in the house
to
lose
power.

What could be the cause of this? Is it possibly due to having left
the
power cord of the laptop in a hot car?



Sounds more likely to be an earth leakage trip.


But it's only started happening now. The hot car is the only thing I
can
think of.




did any of the power supply or lead or computer get wet?

Nope


1. It's a Core Balance Relay or "Earth Leakage Detector" which is
tripping - not a surge protector.

2. Sylvia is correct in her suggestion; there's a definite path between
Active and Earth in your cable or device, which is tripping the CBR.

3. Plug the power cord in _without_ the power supply attached. If the CBR
trips again, it's your power cord; if it doesn't, it's your power supply.

4. Replacement cloverleaf power cables are $8 at Jaycar. Replacement
aftermarket power supplies are $10-$20 including postage through eBay.
Replacement "genuine" power supplies are around $60 from the
manufacturer, $100 from Dick Smith or $180 from Harvey Norman.

The next day now everything is fine. What does that indicate?
That its an intermittent fault.

Some water has dried up,
Unlikely if you are accurate in you claim that it never got wet.

or something yesterday was using a lot of power in the house such as the
air con?
Much more likely its just an intermittent fault.

Time will tell.
 
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Yes.

More often than not they get roasting hot just by themselves,

None of mine do.

especially when powering a running laptop with the battery demanding
charging.

Ditto.
I've had 4 that do, and none that don't. HP/Compaq and Toshiba Not all the
time, just when running on power when battery is low.


geoff
 
geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote

More often than not they get roasting hot just by themselves,

None of mine do.

especially when powering a running laptop with the battery demanding
charging.

Ditto.

I've had 4 that do, and none that don't. HP/Compaq and Toshiba
Don’t believe it given that none of those of mine get anything like that
hot.

Not all the time, just when running on power when battery is low.
Still complete and utter drivel.

You can't even manage a consistent line in mindless bullshit on that last.
 

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