Labor is back in

[Rod Speed]

son of a bitch wrote

Rod Speed wrote
son of a bitch wrote
z1 wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

I was sort of disappointed with the way Tony Windsor based his decision finally on the NBN . .

Does that mean every farmer in his electorate will be visited by a
thin blue fibre optic cable?

On the otherhand, it's better for the Libs to wait, as IMO Julia
has got the poisoned chalice.

Don't count your megabits yet, I doubt it will ever get finished.

Bet it is.

The NBN will also be back on the agenda at the next election.

It will be too late to cancel it then.

By the time Australia Jumps to Fibre everywhere, the rest of the world will be using sub-space relays.

Not a chance.

It's never too late to cancel anything.

Labor aint actually stupid enough to cancel it now that faces the
possibility of another election any time one of theirs carks it etc with
that being one of their main claims about what they had to offer.

Previous Projects started by one government are rarely finished as planed by the Next Government.

You aint established that there is a next govt any time soon.

It's going to take years to finish this.

Sure, but I bet even the coalition wont actually have the balls
to pull the plug on it once a substantial part of it has been
rolled out, if they ever do get back in power any time soon.

Their only hope on that is another election quick that does see Labor get the bums rush.

And I'd be extreeeemly surprised if this government goes the full 3 years.

Sure, but that doesnt mean that the coalition is guaranteed to win that election.

 

[atec77]

On 8/09/2010 6:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

son of a bitch wrote
Rod Speed wrote
son of a bitch wrote
z1 wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

I was sort of disappointed with the way Tony Windsor based his decision finally on the NBN . .

Does that mean every farmer in his electorate will be visited by a
thin blue fibre optic cable?

On the otherhand, it's better for the Libs to wait, as IMO Julia
has got the poisoned chalice.

Don't count your megabits yet, I doubt it will ever get finished.

Bet it is.

The NBN will also be back on the agenda at the next election.

It will be too late to cancel it then.

By the time Australia Jumps to Fibre everywhere, the rest of the world will be using sub-space relays.

Not a chance.

It's never too late to cancel anything.

Labor aint actually stupid enough to cancel it now that faces the
possibility of another election any time one of theirs carks it etc with
that being one of their main claims about what they had to offer.

Previous Projects started by one government are rarely finished as planed by the Next Government.

You aint established that there is a next govt any time soon.
you cant establish there aint

you made the claim you prove it woddles

It's going to take years to finish this.

Sure, but I bet even the coalition wont actually have the balls
to pull the plug on it once a substantial part of it has been
rolled out, if they ever do get back in power any time soon.
they will when the do

Their only hope on that is another election quick that does see Labor get the bums rush.
certain to happen sooner than later , just as certain as you being an

O2 thief

And I'd be extreeeemly surprised if this government goes the full 3 years.

Sure, but that doesnt mean that the coalition is guaranteed to win that election.

worthless rhetoric as usual woddles , could apply to any party and
just you wasting O2 as usual

--
X-No-Archive: Yes

 

[B J Foster]

Rod Speed wrote:

B J Foster wrote
regn.pickfod wrote
....

These rate rises are due to inflation caused by Rudd and Gillard Labor spending and borrowing massive amounts of
money.

Corse we never ever saw any rate rises under Howard
with the federal govt not borrowing a cent, eh ?

In any case, Speedy boi, how do Howard's sins justify Rudd/Gillards
spending? Not that it's relevant anyway.

>

 

[keithr]

On 8/09/2010 1:09 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Don McKenzie wrote:

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

Cheers Don...

=================


Till a few gets caught for kiddie fiddling or some such thing, resigns
and its all on again.All the libs have to do is expose someone.

Or vice versa - glass houses.

 

[Dr Sir John Howard, AC, W]

regn.pickfod wrote:

Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive.had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au> wrote:
who where wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:39:26 +1000, Don McKenzie<5V@2.5A> wrote:

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

and - unfortunately - for the rest of us too.

Bugga!

The stock market went south within minutes

To be expected. Labour is always bad for business.

and interst rates are going North within months according
to ICAP economist Adam Carr.

http://mozo.com.au/reserve-bank/articles/rba-keeps-rate-at-4-5-for-fourth-consecutive-month/800055903

Of course. Excessive government spending (a Labour 'initiative') always drives
up inflation and hence interest rates.

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

 

[terryc]

On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:56:25 +1000, atec77 wrote:

It's never too late to cancel anything. Previous Projects started by
one government are rarely finished as planed by the Next Government.
It's going to take years to finish this. And I'd be extreeeemly
surprised if this government goes the full 3 years.

First 1/4 2011 an election I hear is the official unofficial
consideration

That is a no brainer call based on the fact that she looses a no
confidence motion when parliament first resumes (Nov).

 

[kreed]

On Sep 8, 10:26 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 8/09/2010 1:09 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Don McKenzie wrote:

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

Cheers Don...

================
Till a few gets caught for kiddie fiddling or some such thing, resigns
and its all on again.All the libs have to do is expose someone.

Or vice versa - glass houses.

..
Positions of great power like tend to attract pedos, sociopaths &
sicko's of all types
in much the same way as flies are attracted to a turd.
In many cases these people with dirt on their hands would be preferred
as they are compromised,
can either be allowed access to their perversion with small risk of
prosecution in return for favours, (votes)
or alternately manipulated / blackmailed by those with the big $$.

In many cases, anyone who knew of someone on the other side doing
these sort of things wouldn't be able to say anything,
because it would very likely expose just as many or more on their side
or even themselves.

 

[Rod Speed]

B J Foster wrote

Rod Speed wrote
B J Foster wrote
regn.pickfod wrote ...

These rate rises are due to inflation caused by Rudd and Gillard
Labor spending and borrowing massive amounts of money.

Corse we never ever saw any rate rises under Howard
with the federal govt not borrowing a cent, eh ?

In any case, Speedy boi, how do Howard's sins justify Rudd/Gillards spending?

Never said it did. I JUST rubbed your stupid pig ignorant nose in the FACT
that we saw a whole series of rate rises under Howard when that particular
govt wasnt borrowing a cent. so your claim at the top about what causes
rate rises has blown up in your face and covered you with black stuff, again.

Not that it's relevant anyway.

Corse its relevant to that stupid pig ignorant claim of yours now right at the top.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

atec77 wrote

It's never too late to cancel anything. Previous Projects started
by one government are rarely finished as planed by the Next
Government. It's going to take years to finish this. And I'd be
extreeeemly surprised if this government goes the full 3 years.

First 1/4 2011 an election I hear is the official unofficial consideration

Wota fucking wanka...

That is a no brainer call based on the fact that she looses
a no confidence motion when parliament first resumes (Nov).

Nope, not when its not in the independant's interests to have an election then.

Windsor has already said that one of the reasons he went for Labor was
because he believed that the coalition was going to go for another election
as soon as it looked like they could win it.

 

[Rod Speed]

keithr wrote

F Murtz wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

Till a few gets caught for kiddie fiddling or some such thing, resigns and its all on again.All the libs have to do
is expose someone.

Or vice versa

Nope, if one of the coalition's gets caught doing that, it wouldnt bring down the govt, stupid.

- glass houses.

Brainless stupidity in your case.

 

[Rod Speed]

kreed wrote:

On Sep 8, 10:26 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
On 8/09/2010 1:09 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Don McKenzie wrote:

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

Cheers Don...

=================

Till a few gets caught for kiddie fiddling or some such thing,
resigns and its all on again.All the libs have to do is expose
someone.

Or vice versa - glass houses.

.
Positions of great power like tend to attract pedos, sociopaths &
sicko's of all types
in much the same way as flies are attracted to a turd.
In many cases these people with dirt on their hands would be preferred
as they are compromised,
can either be allowed access to their perversion with small risk of
prosecution in return for favours, (votes)
or alternately manipulated / blackmailed by those with the big $$.

In many cases, anyone who knew of someone on the other side doing
these sort of things wouldn't be able to say anything,
because it would very likely expose just as many or more on their side
or even themselves.

That last is mad. Doesnt explain how arseholes like Orkopoulos got caught.

 

[will s]

"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message
news:8em1geFtbhU1@mid.individual.net...

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

Cheers Don...

we have enough bad news on the TV without having it rammed down our face
here as well


both parties lost the election and therefore the leaders are both losers but
the biggest losers are us as we have to suffer them


ffs..... surely you can find enough things about computers to post here
without polluting it with politics

 

[Rod Speed]

will s wrote

Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

we have enough bad news on the TV without having it rammed down our face here as well

Its rammed down our throats, or rammed into our face, you illiterate hoon.

both parties lost the election and therefore the leaders are both
losers but the biggest losers are us as we have to suffer them

ffs..... surely you can find enough things about computers to post
here without polluting it with politics

You clearly dont believe that applys to yourself, hypocrite.

 

[son of a bitch]

On 2010/09/09 04:11, Rod Speed wrote:

terryc wrote
atec77 wrote

It's never too late to cancel anything. Previous Projects started
by one government are rarely finished as planed by the Next
Government. It's going to take years to finish this. And I'd be
extreeeemly surprised if this government goes the full 3 years.

First 1/4 2011 an election I hear is the official unofficial consideration

Wota fucking wanka...

That is a no brainer call based on the fact that she looses
a no confidence motion when parliament first resumes (Nov).

Nope, not when its not in the independant's interests to have an election then.

Windsor has already said that one of the reasons he went for Labor was
because he believed that the coalition was going to go for another election
as soon as it looked like they could win it.

The only thing certain in Politics, is that nothing is certain.

When is Comes To: putting your John Hancock on a piece of paper to
sign off billions of Bucks, some will undoubtedly change they mind.

 

[Rod Speed]

son of a bitch wrote

Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
atec77 wrote

It's never too late to cancel anything. Previous Projects started
by one government are rarely finished as planed by the Next
Government. It's going to take years to finish this. And I'd be
extreeeemly surprised if this government goes the full 3 years.

First 1/4 2011 an election I hear is the official unofficial consideration

Wota fucking wanka...

That is a no brainer call based on the fact that she looses
a no confidence motion when parliament first resumes (Nov).

Nope, not when its not in the independant's interests to have an election then.

Windsor has already said that one of the reasons he went for Labor was because he believed that the coalition was
going to go for another
election as soon as it looked like they could win it.

The only thing certain in Politics, is that nothing is certain.

Plenty is ALWAYS certain, even in politics.

We will ALWAYS have another election sometime.

That will ALWAYS produce a change of govt sometime, even if that takes decades.

In the first world, we will NEVER see the govt that loses refuse to leave govt and
just make an obscene gesture at the winner when the result is very unambiguous.

When is Comes To: putting your John Hancock on a piece of paper to sign off billions of Bucks, some will undoubtedly
change they mind.

Separate matter entirely to that stupid claim of yours just above.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

son of a bitch wrote
Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
atec77 wrote

It's never too late to cancel anything. Previous Projects
started by one government are rarely finished as planed by the
Next Government. It's going to take years to finish this. And I'd
be extreeeemly surprised if this government goes the full 3 years.

First 1/4 2011 an election I hear is the official unofficial consideration

Wota fucking wanka...

That is a no brainer call based on the fact that she looses
a no confidence motion when parliament first resumes (Nov).

Nope, not when its not in the independant's interests to have an election then.

Windsor has already said that one of the reasons he went for Labor
was because he believed that the coalition was going to go for
another election as soon as it looked like they could win it.

and Katter has said that he values stability and might
just support the government if needed to provide that.

Yep, its hardly ever in an independant's interest to have an early
election, because they have much more difficulty funding an election
campaign than candidates from the main partys do, and independants
that have been around for a while have enough of a clue to notice that,
even fools as stupid as that fool Katter.

Note, supporting the government in frivolous non-confidence
and supply votes does not amount to carte- blanche on policies.

Corse it doesnt, particularly with loons with such stupid ideas as Katter has.

It just means they can not do a Kevin "Take it or leave it" Rudd
approach and will need to consult first and genuinely compromise.

And thats what they have clearly been doing when attempting to be the minority govt.

The only thing certain in Politics, is that nothing is certain.

When is Comes To: putting your John Hancock on a piece of paper
to sign off billions of Bucks, some will undoubtedly change they mind.

Umm, isn't that also part of the problem for the coalition?

Nope.

They were percieved as too ready to do that, offer billions
of dollars that they could not show they had or could obtain.

I never bought that line. That fool Wilke was never going to go for the
coalition. He was always looking for any excuse to go with Labor instead.

The only billions that has been mentioned was for
regional(all country areas), not just three independents.

But was TEN times the billion Wilke made such a fool of himself about.

 

[terryc]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:36:37 +1000, son of a bitch wrote:

On 2010/09/09 04:11, Rod Speed wrote:
terryc wrote
atec77 wrote

It's never too late to cancel anything. Previous Projects started by
one government are rarely finished as planed by the Next Government.
It's going to take years to finish this. And I'd be extreeeemly
surprised if this government goes the full 3 years.

First 1/4 2011 an election I hear is the official unofficial
consideration

Wota fucking wanka...

That is a no brainer call based on the fact that she looses a no
confidence motion when parliament first resumes (Nov).

Nope, not when its not in the independant's interests to have an
election then.

Windsor has already said that one of the reasons he went for Labor was
because he believed that the coalition was going to go for another
election as soon as it looked like they could win it.

and Katter has said that he values stability and might just support the
government if needed to provide that. Note, supporting the government in
frivolous non-confidence and supply votes does not amount to carte-
blanche on policies. It just means they can not do a Kevin "Take it or
leave it" Rudd approach and will need to consult first and genuinely
compromise.

The only thing certain in Politics, is that nothing is certain.

When is Comes To: putting your John Hancock on a piece of paper to sign
off billions of Bucks, some will undoubtedly change they mind.

Umm, isn't that also part of the problem for the coalition? They were
percieved as too ready to do that, offer billions of dollars that they
could not show they had or could obtain.

The only billions that has been mentioned was for regional(all country
areas), not just three independents.

 

[terryc]

On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:31:05 +1000, Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote:

regn.pickfod wrote:
Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"

Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive.had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au
wrote:
who where wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:39:26 +1000, Don McKenzie<5V@2.5A> wrote:

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

and - unfortunately - for the rest of us too.

Bugga!

The stock market went south within minutes

To be expected. Labour is always bad for business.
Only for businesss run by herd followers.

Of course. Excessive government spending (a Labour 'initiative') always
drives up inflation and hence interest rates.

It is being driven by consumer spending.

 

[kreed]

On Sep 9, 8:14 am, "will s" <wi...@internode.on.net> wrote:

"Don McKenzie" <5...@2.5A> wrote in message

news:8em1geFtbhU1@mid.individual.net...



and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

Cheers Don...

we have enough bad news on the TV without having it rammed down our face
here as well

both parties lost the election and therefore the leaders are both losers but
the biggest losers are us as we have to suffer them

ffs..... surely you can find enough things about computers to post here
without polluting it with politics

I wouldn't say he is making a political point, he is neutrally
announcing an important
happening for Australia that we have waited over 2 weeks for.
It is important news.


In fact, I have been quite impressed with the standard of the
discussion
on the subject on here, in that we haven't had bucketloads of silly,
pointless back and forth ALP / Liberal bashing & name calling.



Out of interest, speaking to friends and work colleagues, many of who
are openly (and incurably Labor or Liberal supporters,
one unique thing is that none of them are at all happy with the
situation we have.

There is absolutely none of the usual "yay - Gillard won" from
Laborites.
Anyone else noticed this ?

 

[regn.pickfod]

Rod Speed wrote:

regn.pickfod wrote
Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" wrote
who where wrote
Don McKenzie<5V@2.5A> wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

and - unfortunately - for the rest of us too.

Bugga!

The stock market went south within minutes

Like hell it did.

To be accurate; when I heard the anouncement I checked my portfolio
and as I follow mostly miners/exploration/resources, they had taken a hit
that nearly brought a tear to the eye.

So it seemed to me that it went south in minutes

and interst rates are going North within months according to ICAP
economist Adam Carr.

And it remains to be seen if he does any better than that other fool
Steve Keen did on property prices.

Employment uptake figures out yesterday doesn't look good for interest
rates.

>> http://mozo.com.au/reserve-bank/articles/rba-keeps-rate-at-4-5-for-fourth-consecutive-month/800055903