Labor is back in

[Doug Jewell]

On 7/09/2010 8:20 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

terryc wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote

Its more likely to come unstuck with something like one of the current members ending up dead etc.
The way you worded that, sounds like you are predicting

someone might wind up dead through reasons other than
natural causes. Any predictions on what seats may require a
by-election? Lyne and/or New England perhaps?

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What is the difference between a duck?

 

[B J Foster]

regn.pickfod wrote:

Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
""Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive.had.hot.dinners\"@kangarooistan.com.au
. wrote:
who where wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:39:26 +1000, Don McKenzie<5V@2.5A> wrote:

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.
and - unfortunately - for the rest of us too.
Bugga!

The stock market went south within minutes
and interst rates are going North within months according
to ICAP economist Adam Carr.

http://mozo.com.au/reserve-bank/articles/rba-keeps-rate-at-4-5-for-fourth-consecutive-month/800055903

Each rate rise adds $50/week to the average mortgage. These rate rises
are due to inflation caused by Rudd and Gillard Labor spending and
borrowing massive amounts of money.

The annualised M3 expansion ballooned from around 11-12% under Howard
(already high) to 25% under Rudd. This ultimately fuels inflation and
interest rate rises.

The expanding money supply is also a crude form of capital theft. Only 3
years of 25% expansion and the value of our savings will be halved.

Labor thieves don't even bother using the tax system anymore.

The $43 *billion* NBN is not only going to cost us $2000 per person but
it will hit us through interest rates as well.

And being a Labor initiative it will take twice as long and cost twice
as much.

 

[Rod Speed]

Doug Jewell wrote

Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

Its more likely to come unstuck with something like one of the current members ending up dead etc.

The way you worded that, sounds like you are predicting someone might wind up dead through reasons other than natural
causes.

Nar it wasnt meant that way. I just realise that we have had
quite a few pollys die in office, like that fools that shagged
himself to death quite literally or just resign due to ill health etc.

We've seen a few attempted suicides too.

We've also seen quite a few just give up on politics too,
tho presumably they'd be more reluctant to do that with
the numbers so tight.

Any predictions on what seats may require a by-election?

Its impossible to predict who will die of natural causes.

Even the ones that get plenty of excercise etc and drop dead pretty spectacularly.

Lyne and/or New England perhaps?

I'm hopeless at predicting who might die of cancer or a heart attack etc.

I didnt predict either of the most recent suicide attempts either.

 

[Rod Speed]

B J Foster wrote

regn.pickfod wrote
Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" wrote
who where wrote
Don McKenzie<5V@2.5A> wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.
and - unfortunately - for the rest of us too.

Bugga!

The stock market went south within minutes and interst rates are going North within months according to ICAP
economist Adam Carr.

And it remains to be seen if he can predict any better than that other fool Steve Keen predicted house prices.

http://mozo.com.au/reserve-bank/articles/rba-keeps-rate-at-4-5-for-fourth-consecutive-month/800055903

Each rate rise adds $50/week to the average mortgage.

Depends on how great the rate rise is, stupid.

These rate rises are due to inflation caused by Rudd and Gillard Labor spending and borrowing massive amounts of
money.

Corse we never ever saw any rate rises under Howard
with the federal govt not borrowing a cent, eh ?

The annualised M3 expansion ballooned from around 11-12% under Howard (already high) to 25% under Rudd. This
ultimately fuels inflation and interest rate rises.

Corse we never ever saw any rate rises under Howard eh ?

The expanding money supply is also a crude form of capital theft.
Only 3 years of 25% expansion and the value of our savings will be halved.

Not if you have even half a clue about where you have those savings invested.

Labor thieves don't even bother using the tax system anymore.

Odd, could have SWORN they attempted to have a mining profits tax.

The $43 *billion* NBN is not only going to cost us $2000 per person but it will hit us through interest rates as well.

Doesnt have to if part of what was raised from the flogging off of Telstra was used to pay for it.

And being a Labor initiative it will take twice as long and cost twice as much.

Bet it doesnt cost anything like that much more.

 

[Rod Speed]

regn.pickfod wrote

Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" wrote
who where wrote
Don McKenzie<5V@2.5A> wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

and - unfortunately - for the rest of us too.

Bugga!

The stock market went south within minutes

Like hell it did.

and interst rates are going North within months according to ICAP economist Adam Carr.

And it remains to be seen if he does any better than that other fool Steve Keen did on property prices.

> http://mozo.com.au/reserve-bank/articles/rba-keeps-rate-at-4-5-for-fourth-consecutive-month/800055903

 

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"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:28:29 +1000, son of a bitch wrote:

By the time
Australia Jumps to Fibre everywhere, the rest of the world will be using
sub-space relays.

and found a source of infinite energy....

I'll have my patent on Zero Point Modules by then. Up the ZPM !!!!!!!!!

>

 

[SG1]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Doug Jewell wrote
Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

Its more likely to come unstuck with something like one of the current
members ending up dead etc.

The way you worded that, sounds like you are predicting someone might
wind up dead through reasons other than natural causes.

Nar it wasnt meant that way. I just realise that we have had
quite a few pollys die in office, like that fools that shagged
himself to death quite literally or just resign due to ill health etc.

We've seen a few attempted suicides too.

Well Roddles show them how to do it properly, afterall you know
everything......

We've also seen quite a few just give up on politics too,
tho presumably they'd be more reluctant to do that with
the numbers so tight.

Any predictions on what seats may require a by-election?

Its impossible to predict who will die of natural causes.

Even the ones that get plenty of excercise etc and drop dead pretty
spectacularly.

Lyne and/or New England perhaps?

I'm hopeless at predicting who might die of cancer or a heart attack etc.

I didnt predict either of the most recent suicide attempts either.

 

[dechucka]

"regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
news:4c8690ff@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
""Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive.had.hot.dinners\"@kangarooistan.com.au
. wrote:
who where wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:39:26 +1000, Don McKenzie<5V@2.5A> wrote:

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

and - unfortunately - for the rest of us too.

Bugga!

The stock market went south within minutes

no it didn't

and interst rates are going North within months according
to ICAP economist Adam Carr.

rates on hold AGAIN this month. Rates may go up in the new year if the
economy keeps growing like it is

http://mozo.com.au/reserve-bank/articles/rba-keeps-rate-at-4-5-for-fourth-consecutive-month/800055903

 

[terryc]

On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:01:21 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

terryc wrote
z1 wrote

Does that mean every farmer in his electorate will be visited by a
thin blue fibre optic cable?

Unless they have a rural version of the street distribution method,

Not even possible.

I suppose that statement fully demonstrates the limit of your technical
knowledge. A drop of 7(?) metres every 20 metres as opposed of one from
500 to 5,000 every 1,000-10,000 metres. Why not?

unlikely. Could just be an affordable sat link,

Thats there right now.

Sat links? Yes. Affordable =No.

or even more/higher wireless towers for a wireless connection.

Higher doesnt help.

And Windsor doesnt even want fibre to every rural hamlet, let alone
every farmer anyway.

Really a small national investment to maximise competition in locally
produced food stuffs.

The vast bulk of them already have decent broadband available via NextG
right now.

With this logic, the government could save money on schools, hospital,
roads and an endless number of expenses as they would all be equally
affordable.

The only thing that isnt any good for is avoiding driving to the DVD
rental place because of the volume charges. Its fine for everything else
and can be significantly cheaper than DSL too, essentially because there
isnt a fixed monthly charge if you dont want that.

On the otherhand, it's better for the Libs to wait, as IMO Julia has
got the poisoned chalice.

Not a lot of evidence of the ability all round to adapt their mindset,

Thats just plain silly, most obviously with what Gillard did with the
ETS post Copenhagen.

An the poster child steps forward.

so quite possibly. OTOH, if Tony just plays the obstructionist hand and
brings them down,

Not even possible now that Windsor and Oakshot have sold out.

Example two poster child. May i suggest you use that ample affordable
broadband available to you and listen carefully to the long interviews
they gave.

he could just as likely cause his own downfall from a P'd off
electorate.

How odd that we didnt see that result when Mal gave Whitless the bums
rush that way.

NEWS FLASH! Neither are in politics any more. One is in fairy land and
the other is borderline.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
z1 wrote

Does that mean every farmer in his electorate will be visited by a thin blue fibre optic cable?

Unless they have a rural version of the street distribution method,

Not even possible.

I suppose that statement fully demonstrates the limit of your technical knowledge.

We'll see...

A drop of 7(?) metres every 20 metres as opposed of one
from 500 to 5,000 every 1,000-10,000 metres. Why not?

Because most farmers dont even have just a 240/415 service, fuckwit.

unlikely. Could just be an affordable sat link,

Thats there right now.

Sat links? Yes. Affordable =No.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.

They dont cost any more than DSL, fuckwit.

or even more/higher wireless towers for a wireless connection.

Higher doesnt help.

And Windsor doesnt even want fibre to every rural hamlet, let alone every farmer anyway.

Really a small national investment to maximise competition in locally produced food stuffs.

Its got absolutely NOTHING to do with locally produced food stuffs, fuckwit.

The vast bulk of them already have decent broadband available via NextG right now.

With this logic, the government could save money on schools, hospital, roads
and an endless number of expenses as they would all be equally affordable.

You wouldnt know what logic was if it bit you on your lard arse.

No surprise that you are completely unemployable.

The only thing that isnt any good for is avoiding driving to the DVD
rental place because of the volume charges. Its fine for everything
else and can be significantly cheaper than DSL too, essentially
because there isnt a fixed monthly charge if you dont want that.

On the otherhand, it's better for the Libs to wait, as IMO Julia
has got the poisoned chalice.

Not a lot of evidence of the ability all round to adapt their mindset,

Thats just plain silly, most obviously with what Gillard did with the ETS post Copenhagen.

An the poster child steps forward.

You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

so quite possibly. OTOH, if Tony just plays the obstructionist hand and brings them down,

Not even possible now that Windsor and Oakshot have sold out.

Example two poster child. May i suggest you use that ample affordable
broadband available to you and listen carefully to the long interviews they gave.

They never ever said anything even remotely resembling anything like that.

he could just as likely cause his own downfall from a P'd off electorate.

How odd that we didnt see that result when Mal gave Whitless the bums rush that way.

NEWS FLASH! Neither are in politics any more.
One is in fairy land and the other is borderline.

Irrelevant to what the voters do about that situation, fuckwit.

 

[F Murtz]

Don McKenzie wrote:

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

Cheers Don...

=================


Till a few gets caught for kiddie fiddling or some such thing, resigns

and its all on again.All the libs have to do is expose someone.

 

[Rod Speed]

F Murtz wrote

Don McKenzie wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

Till a few gets caught for kiddie fiddling or some such thing,
resigns and its all on again.All the libs have to do is expose
someone.

Easier said than done.

And Labor has fuck all members in the places most of them are now anyway.

 

[Rod Speed]

kreed wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
terryc wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

Maybe. Until all the seats are declared I would not be so sure.

More fool you, none will change now unless there is another
legal challenge that affects the result and thats unlikely.

In any case, we will not know until the first no confidence vote
call which can not happen until parliament resumes in November.

There's unlikely to be one soon, because the 'independants' have a
problem funding a new election.

Its more likely to come unstuck with something like
one of the current members ending up dead etc.

I would tend to agree with these 3 points.

It also might not just be the independents that have
trouble funding another election campaign either.

Sure, they clearly are revelling in the power they currently have and
would prefer not to risk losing that power. Its hard to say what the
voters would do in a quick election right now hung parliament wise.

The "dead" thinghy could really throw a spanner in the works.

Yeah, cept that it could just as easily be a coalition corpse.

 

[kreed]

On Sep 7, 8:20 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:

terryc wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote
and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.
Maybe. Until all the seats are declared I would not be so sure.

More fool you, none will change now unless there is another legal challenge that affects the result and thats unlikely.

In any case, we will not know until the first no confidence vote
call which can not happen until parliament resumes in November.

There's unlikely to be one soon, because the 'independants' have a problem funding a new election.

Its more likely to come unstuck with something like one of the current members ending up dead etc.

I would tend to agree with these 3 points.

It also might not just be the independents that have trouble funding
another election campaign either.

The "dead" thinghy could really throw a spanner in the works.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
z1 wrote

Does that mean every farmer in his electorate will be visited by a thin blue fibre optic cable?

Unless they have a rural version of the street distribution method,

Not even possible.

I suppose that statement fully demonstrates the limit of your technical knowledge.

We'll see...

A drop of 7(?) metres every 20 metres as opposed of one
from 500 to 5,000 every 1,000-10,000 metres. Why not?

Because most farmers dont even have just a 240/415 service, fuckwit.

Err, does that mean, despite my ~1,000 head of stock, the fact that I
am still not classified as a farmer means that I will get the NBN,

Nope, it means that the NBN cant be done to operations like
that the same way its done in suburban streets, fuckwit.

Hardly any of the phone services are done using overhead wiring to those either.

OR the fact that I don't have a three phase power supply
connected mean that I will not get the NBN connected?

Nope, it means that the NBN cant be done to operations like
that the same way its done in suburban streets, fuckwit.

Hardly any of the phone services are done using overhead wiring to those either.

crow call, what sort of back up battery and i going to need for the
phone if the whole shebang needs three phase power at the house

It doesnt, fuckwit.

unlikely. Could just be an affordable sat link,

Thats there right now.

Sat links? Yes. Affordable =No.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever
had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.

They dont cost any more than DSL, fuckwit.

URL?

http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc/?action=search

And Windsor doesnt even want fibre to every rural hamlet, let alone every farmer anyway.

Really a small national investment to maximise competition in locally produced food stuffs.

Its got absolutely NOTHING to do with locally produced food stuffs, fuckwit.

Umm, IME real farmers do no need to see porn to know
how to reproduce and produce the future population.

Thats not what those who have broadband use it for, fuckwit.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

F Murtz wrote

Till a few gets caught for kiddie fiddling or some such thing, resigns
and its all on again.All the libs have to do is expose someone.

Utegate again?

Nope, no one is gunna be a stupid as Gretch any time soon.

And its Abbott thats the ex priest anyway.

 

[son of a bitch]

On 2010/09/08 02:43, Rod Speed wrote:

son of a bitch wrote
z1 wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

I was sort of disappointed with the way Tony Windsor based his
decision finally on the NBN . .

Does that mean every farmer in his electorate will be visited by a
thin blue fibre optic cable?

On the otherhand, it's better for the Libs to wait, as IMO Julia has
got the poisoned chalice.

Don't count your megabits yet, I doubt it will ever get finished.

Bet it is.

The NBN will also be back on the agenda at the next election.

It will be too late to cancel it then.

By the time Australia Jumps to Fibre everywhere, the rest of the world will be using sub-space relays.

Not a chance.

It's never too late to cancel anything.
Previous Projects started by one government are rarely finished
as planed by the Next Government.
It's going to take years to finish this.
And I'd be extreeeemly surprised if this government goes the full
3 years.

 

[terryc]

On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:46:44 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Because most farmers dont even have just a 240/415 service, fuckwit.

Err, does that mean, despite my ~1,000 head of stock, the fact that I am
still not classified as a farmer means that I will get the NBN, OR the
fact that I don't have a three phase power supply connected mean that I
will not get the NBN connected?

<crow call, what sort of back up battery and i going to need for the
phone if the whole shebang needs three phase power at the house>

unlikely. Could just be an affordable sat link,

Thats there right now.

Sat links? Yes. Affordable =No.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever
had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.

They dont cost any more than DSL, fuckwit.

URL?

Its got absolutely NOTHING to do with locally produced food stuffs,
fuckwit.

Umm, IME real farmers do no need to see porn to know how to reproduce
and produce the future population. It is only city folk who need that.

T

 

[terryc]

On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:09:19 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

Till a few gets caught for kiddie fiddling or some such thing, resigns
and its all on again.All the libs have to do is expose someone.

Utegate again?

 

[atec77]

On 8/09/2010 5:33 PM, son of a bitch wrote:

On 2010/09/08 02:43, Rod Speed wrote:
son of a bitch wrote
z1 wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

and for those interested in politics, Labor is back.

I was sort of disappointed with the way Tony Windsor based his
decision finally on the NBN . .

Does that mean every farmer in his electorate will be visited by a
thin blue fibre optic cable?

On the otherhand, it's better for the Libs to wait, as IMO Julia has
got the poisoned chalice.

Don't count your megabits yet, I doubt it will ever get finished.

Bet it is.

The NBN will also be back on the agenda at the next election.

It will be too late to cancel it then.

By the time Australia Jumps to Fibre everywhere, the rest of the
world will be using sub-space relays.

Not a chance.



It's never too late to cancel anything.
Previous Projects started by one government are rarely finished
as planed by the Next Government.
It's going to take years to finish this.
And I'd be extreeeemly surprised if this government goes the full
3 years.
First 1/4 2011 an election I hear is the official unofficial consideration

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