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Y'know what scares me? Even when Kerry gets elected, Dubya still has tillJohn S. Dyson wrote:
However, you show extreme personal dishonesty and lack of integrity by
implying that I was discussing the margin of the victory. Alas, in
the actual presidential election, Bush won by much more than 0.5%.
You didn't debunk what I claimed -- again, you show that Clinton got
43% of the vote in 1992. In 2000, Bush got 48% of the vote.
In essense, Bush had just as much or more of a mandate than the
Clintons.
John
Bush had to have the supreme court vote him into office. If there was a
recount in florida, he could have lost. They knew that, and so they
voted along strict party lines (just like the house impeachment a few
years earlier) to put their lil buddy into office.
I'm not sure if you can recall the weeks of waiting after the election.
That didn't happen after the '92 or '96 elections.
And YOU are calling ME dishonest? That's a laugh.
I'd rather you didn't, join the fray.I've been exercisng massive self-restraint when it comes
to commenting on John S. Dyson's repeated idiocies ...
means that you might be having problems with reality.Bill Sloman wrote...
I've been exercisng massive self-restraint when it comes
to commenting on John S. Dyson's repeated idiocies ...
I'd rather you didn't, join the fray.
You agree with claimed idioicies, but I am proven correct. This
court essentially bounced back the nonsense from the Florida courts.John S. Dyson wrote:
However, you show extreme personal dishonesty and lack of integrity by
implying that I was discussing the margin of the victory. Alas, in
the actual presidential election, Bush won by much more than 0.5%.
You didn't debunk what I claimed -- again, you show that Clinton got
43% of the vote in 1992. In 2000, Bush got 48% of the vote.
In essense, Bush had just as much or more of a mandate than the
Clintons.
John
Bush had to have the supreme court vote him into office.
Not only are you dishonest, but incompetent. Remember: the supreme
by more. Alas, the judicial activism and rules changes during theIf there was a
recount in florida, he could have lost.
Using the Gore cherry picking formula, Gore would have lost even
"ejudication"? Do you have any idea how damned illiterate you are? Any.. the court ejudication of elections ...
"idioicies"?- and "proven correct"? Man- you are a pathetic farce!You agree with claimed idioicies, but I am proven correct.
Your reality is that you have to be living in a slum on governmentThis
means that you might be having problems with reality.
Would you kindly stop posting my name in the SUBJECT: line ofWinfield Hill writes:
Bill Sloman wrote...
I've been exercisng massive self-restraint when it comes
to commenting on John S. Dyson's repeated idiocies ...
I'd rather you didn't, join the fray.
You agree with claimed idioicies, but I am proven correct.
This means that you might be having problems with reality.
Yes, John. You are being very rude.John S. Dyson gratuitously changed the Subject title to
"Winfield Hill has more problems with reality?" and wrote...
Winfield Hill writes:
Bill Sloman wrote...
I've been exercisng massive self-restraint when it comes
to commenting on John S. Dyson's repeated idiocies ...
I'd rather you didn't, join the fray.
You agree with claimed idioicies, but I am proven correct.
This means that you might be having problems with reality.
Would you kindly stop posting my name in the SUBJECT: line of
usenet postings intended for no other purpose than to direct a
gratuitous insult against me? I certainly do not appreciate it.
Bill Sloman wrote...
I've been exercisng massive self-restraint when it comes
to commenting on John S. Dyson's repeated idiocies ...
I'd rather you didn't, join the fray.
So now, since you're losing, you want everybody to play nicey-nicey?On 18 Oct 2004 03:14:05 -0700, Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote...
I've been exercisng massive self-restraint when it comes
to commenting on John S. Dyson's repeated idiocies ...
I'd rather you didn't, join the fray.
Why do they call this a "discussion" group? It's more of a sophomoric
name-calling group lately. That's a shame, as the world is changing
and there are fascinating things going on, things worthy of serious
analysis, and nobody seems interested in much except flinging coarse
insults. I sure hope you guys don't do electronic design this way.
Well, I used to work at cisco. Flinging insults was the main designOn 18 Oct 2004 03:14:05 -0700, Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote...
I've been exercisng massive self-restraint when it comes
to commenting on John S. Dyson's repeated idiocies ...
I'd rather you didn't, join the fray.
Why do they call this a "discussion" group? It's more of a sophomoric
name-calling group lately. That's a shame, as the world is changing
and there are fascinating things going on, things worthy of serious
analysis, and nobody seems interested in much except flinging coarse
insults. I sure hope you guys don't do electronic design this way.
John
Why, exactly, do you call their ruling "nonsense"? By all objectiveIn article <0jHcd.259227$MQ5.23413@attbi_s52>,
Robert Monsen <rcsurname@comcast.net> writes:
John S. Dyson wrote:
However, you show extreme personal dishonesty and lack of integrity by
implying that I was discussing the margin of the victory. Alas, in
the actual presidential election, Bush won by much more than 0.5%.
You didn't debunk what I claimed -- again, you show that Clinton got
43% of the vote in 1992. In 2000, Bush got 48% of the vote.
In essense, Bush had just as much or more of a mandate than the
Clintons.
John
Bush had to have the supreme court vote him into office.
Not only are you dishonest, but incompetent. Remember: the supreme
court essentially bounced back the nonsense from the Florida courts.
No, the Florida court had a perfect right to rule on Florida electionThe only significant change made by the US supremes was to essentially apply
the laws of physics to the existing law (time just ran out anyway.)
Historically, the court ejudication of elections has been a big no-no,
but the Florida court activism violated that rule.
Do you just make this stuff up? It seems like it. If you can back thisIf there was a
recount in florida, he could have lost.
Using the Gore cherry picking formula, Gore would have lost even
by more. Alas, the judicial activism and rules changes during the
2000 election was bounced back by the US supreme court. Gore's
attempted changing the rules after/during the election process did
violate federal law and precedent.
--John
I've been suggesting what I thought were interesting questions for
some time about social evolution and system dynamics and historical
forces, and hardly anybody wants to think about what's really
happening, or why;
John Larkin wrote:
On 18 Oct 2004 03:14:05 -0700, Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote...
I've been exercisng massive self-restraint when it comes
to commenting on John S. Dyson's repeated idiocies ...
I'd rather you didn't, join the fray.
Why do they call this a "discussion" group? It's more of a sophomoric
name-calling group lately. That's a shame, as the world is changing
and there are fascinating things going on, things worthy of serious
analysis, and nobody seems interested in much except flinging coarse
insults. I sure hope you guys don't do electronic design this way.
John
Really? Take a look at your posts; you are an arrogant, aggravating,
hypocrite p.o.s. Go away.
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:00:11 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
My dream team was Diane Feinstein and Colin Powell: 8 years with one
as prez and one vp, then swap for 8 more.
Your dream, the worlds nightmare!
It must be wonderful to have such certain knowledge of what's best for
the world- only a paid hack Bush campaign operative would take such a
position.
Can I get paid too?
John
You are already getting paid.
Um. Good point.
Diane Feinstein is a Senator for the state of California, she has done
everything wrong. Voted against the interests of the state and opposes
several
Constitutional provisions. She can't do anything right, or even do anything
without doing harm.
Well, she was about the best, and least loony, mayor that San
Francisco ever had. And about the most gracious, too.
John
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote in message news:<m531n01md0eaip7g4td4fqa95f9int7ncr@4ax.com>...
On 16 Oct 2004 00:03:37 GMT, chrisgibbogibson@aol.com
(ChrisGibboGibson) wrote:
I'm jusy typing this as nothing electronic seems to be happeneing.
As none of you lot seem happy with either of them, and it seems more a case of
voting for Kerry because you don't like Bush or vice versa, why not vote for
none of them.
When one gets elected to power, with votes of 9 to 3 (actual votes not
percentage) do you think he will believe the country is behind him?
Gibbo
ducking
Speaking of electronics (is that allowed?) I have a nasty problem. I
use an LC oscillator in my delay generators; when we get a trigger, we
start the osc running at 50 MHz and use that to time delays in 20 ns
steps, with a little analog ramp afterwards for the fine (picosecond)
bits. The oscillator is coarse tuned with a ceramic piston cap, and
fine-tuned with a varicap, so we can phase-lock it to a crystal for
long-delay accuracy. The vco pull range is +-2500 PPM, which seemed
good at the time.
But just lately, some, too many, units are losing lock. It appears
that they are humidity sensitive on a very slow (weeks/months) time
scale, with high humidity pulling down the frequency. I did find some
defluxing gunk in some of the piston caps, from the boad cleaning
operation, and that added a nasty positive capacitance-humidity effect
to tha cap. But with clean caps, there's still a problem.
Are PC boards hygroscopic? And does moisture absorption increase
capacitance? Anybody seen an IC that's hygroscopic?
Moisture absorbtion almost always increases capacitance - the
dielectric constant of water is about 80 (at low frequencies, where
the H2O dipoles can line up with the field).
Normal PC boards aren't hygroscopic, but boards carrying megohm and
higher resistances are usually very carefully washed and dried and
then lacquered to prevent the formation of a mono-molecular layer of
physically adsorbed water at highish humidities. This film starts
forming long before the humidity gets to 100%.
I'd be a bit worried about the ceramic piston caps myself. One never
really knows what the ceramic is and how it behaves, and in a trimmer
it is always open to the air.
Can you afford to waste a little power keeping the relevant bit if the
board a couple of degrees above ambient?
We'd have kept her, but for term limits."John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote in message
news:m3i3n0d2klgg6usvetftsa00mora08jfn5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:00:11 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
My dream team was Diane Feinstein and Colin Powell: 8 years with one
as prez and one vp, then swap for 8 more.
Your dream, the worlds nightmare!
It must be wonderful to have such certain knowledge of what's best for
the world- only a paid hack Bush campaign operative would take such a
position.
Can I get paid too?
John
You are already getting paid.
Um. Good point.
Diane Feinstein is a Senator for the state of California, she has done
everything wrong. Voted against the interests of the state and opposes
several
Constitutional provisions. She can't do anything right, or even do anything
without doing harm.
Well, she was about the best, and least loony, mayor that San
Francisco ever had. And about the most gracious, too.
John
She should have stayed there, she has been a real burden on the state while in
the Senate.
Fred, wake up. He's got you right in the palm of his hand, and he'sJohn Larkin wrote:
I've been suggesting what I thought were interesting questions for
some time about social evolution and system dynamics and historical
forces, and hardly anybody wants to think about what's really
happening, or why;
You're a FUCKING LIAR!- a goddamned pseudo-intellectual fake. You know
absolutely nothing about anything outside your GEEK specialty. Your
presence is nothing but an aggravating and arrogant wise-ass
closet-queen, good-for-nothing ignorant p.o.s. and scum.