Jihad needs scientists

[T Wake]

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"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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we have situational rules which govern the behavior of our
country's national security agencies.

Where in the constitution does it allow parts of itself to be ignored?


The parts governing wartime, and martial law.

Well, since neither war nor martial law has been declared, that would be
irrelevant, now wouldn't it? Do try to think things through before you
say them.

I am becoming to suspect that is not a possibility for him. I refuse to
accept that someone can actually be that thick and still be able to turn
their PC on.

 

[T Wake]

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:24:16 +0100, "T Wake"
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See, everyone can make demands.

Not you, you piece of shit.

Oh right sorry. Your rights are the only ones that exist. Your rights exist
without responsibilities.

Your posts appear to come from some one genuinely too stupid to tie their
own shoe laces. I can only assume you are, in fact, a plant for the
Communist Party of America to discredit the right wing.

Either that or you really are that stupid.

 

[T Wake]

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lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
lparker@emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:

Keith Olbermann had a good commentary a week or two ago about Bush
calling
a criticism "unacceptable."

Which criticism was unacceptable?

I don't understand you people; first you complain that he can't
think for himself; then, you object when he expresses his opinion
about
something.

You can't have it both ways.

Calling "criticism" "unacceptable" is not an opinion--it's an
argument-winning tactic that involves tacitly silencing anybody who
disagrees with you.

Criticism was considered unacceptable in 1930s Germany too.

---
If the parallel is valid, expect to hear someone knocking on your
door because of your antics here.

Ooooooohhhh.... That would be so.... R I G H T E O U S !!!

I'd love to see the video on Cops!

Do you deliberately conform to stereotypes? Are you infact a plant for the
left wingers to create ridicule?

You're a goddamned retard, boy.

Oh, such hurtful remarks coming from a genius like yourself.

Did you have to look "Goddamned" up before you used it?

 

[T Wake]

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"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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Do you deliberately conform to stereotypes? Are you infact a plant for
the
left wingers to create ridicule?

You're a goddamned retard, boy.

T Wake, I would say the answer to your first question is "invariably", and
the answer to your second is "of course not, he's dumber than a tree".
Oh, sorry, you didn't mean that type of plant. Never mind.

Initially I didn't mean that type of plant, however as I read more of his
posts I may reconsider.

 

[T Wake]

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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:17:06 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> Gave us:

Who really cares...the victims are still just as dead. Semantic games is
all that is.


You are so full of shit, you eyes are brown, and there is a foul
stench emanating from your ears.

Do you get seven year olds to write your insults for you?

 

[T Wake]

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 17:39:51 +0100, "T Wake"
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what the voices in your head are saying without
any processing


You're a goddamned loon.

Originality isn't your strong point, is it? Do you have a strong point?

 

[T Wake]

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"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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Going from discussion to trying to find personal identification?
Pretty
much
the definition.

This is Usenet, dumbass. "Finger" and many other trace utilities
have been around for decades as well as the right to utilize them.

If you were any more clueless, you'd be the definition of
something... RETARDEDNESS.

Many people write letters to the editor of the local paper. Few try to
go
to
the address of the writers. Those few are stalkers.


You're an idiot. People don't stalk idiots. You prove that one
*can* be wrong *all* the time.

Doing a lookup on *your* IP address is NOT stalking, dipshit.

Do you type one handed?

I, in fact, used to develop database apps for OLTP handling, and I
could stand over the shoulder of one of my data entry girls and type
with either hand to show them how to use the screen entry form(s).

This was back in the 286/386/2Mb/s coax ethernet days.

Shame your brain damage has progressed to such a degree then.

So, yes, I can type one handed quite well. The brain knows where
all the keys are.

Do you have a point, dipshit?

Yes, you are such a wanker you only have one hand spare at any given time.
Sorry I had to spell it out for you.

 

[T Wake]

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"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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Going from discussion to trying to find personal identification?
Pretty
much
the definition.

This is Usenet, dumbass. "Finger" and many other trace utilities
have been around for decades as well as the right to utilize them.

If you were any more clueless, you'd be the definition of
something... RETARDEDNESS.

Many people write letters to the editor of the local paper. Few try to
go
to
the address of the writers. Those few are stalkers.


You're an idiot. People don't stalk idiots. You prove that one
*can* be wrong *all* the time.

Doing a lookup on *your* IP address is NOT stalking, dipshit.

Do you type one handed?

I, in fact, used to develop database apps for OLTP handling, and I
could stand over the shoulder of one of my data entry girls and type
with either hand to show them how to use the screen entry form(s).

How *did* you get so talented???


So, yes, I can type one handed quite well. The brain knows where
all the keys are.

Do you have a point, dipshit?

"Typing one-handed" usually implies you have another of your body parts in
your other hand. But then that's an insult that's far too subtle for you
to get.

It seems most insults are.

 

[T Wake]

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 18:09:56 +0100, "T Wake"
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You would never know if you had 15 seconds as I very, very much doubt you
can count that high.

I can juggle 15 imaginary numbers around, while you piddle fart

I can juggle imaginary elephants. Beat that.

around with counting the digits of one hand.

Wow. Good comeback.

Try again, asswipe.

Ok, what other imaginary things shall we pretend we can juggle?

 

[T Wake]

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 19:16:32 +0100, "T Wake"
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T Wake wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote

That's not my recollection.

Ok, it is my recollection though.

Fair nuff !

You need to stop reading too much implied criticism where there
isnt
any.

There's been *loads* !

In my posts?

A misunderstanding it seems.

Possibly. The joys of the text based USENET.

Yes, let's do stick to getting offended by the *ex*plicit insults.
There
are way more than enough of those in this thread to go around.

Yes. Easier to not get offended by anything here

It's really difficult to accomplish though, as you keep returning :-]

Aha, and you are forced to read my message how exactly?

I am fairly sure Forte Agent has filters.

I filter nothing.

Try it one day.

Even pieces of shit like you. That still does
not change the fact that you offend.

I don't offend myself. If you are offended then it does imply you are too
stupid to avoid that which offends you. I can imagine you sleeping in filth
at night, even though it offends you....

 

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 19:26:17 +0100, "T Wake"
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Sadly, you are a...

Sadly, you are still no more than an idiot.

IKYABWAI.

Even being an idiot I am orders of magnitude above you.

 

[T Wake]

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"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message
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mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
In article <efr7vg$sb7$2@blue.rahul.net>, kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken
Smith) writes:
In article <2p1Ug.16$45.152@news.uchicago.edu>,
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote:
[....]
Well, here is at least one thing you can say for Al Queda. They are
quite honest, no pretending.

Maybe, they are just more effective liars. If you haven't caught them
in a lie, it doesn't mean there weren't lies they got away with.

Oh, I'm sure there were some, but these are what is called "tactical
lies". With regard to principal matters, i.e. their goals, they're
quite forthcoming. Just as Hitler was.

The whole idea that they have anything to do with any form of Islam may
well be a lie.

I wouldn't quite say so. The only operational answer to the question
"what does a given religion say and command" is "what its adherents
believe it says and commands". Given enough preachers stating "this is
what the religion commands" and enough believers accepting it, "this"
becomes the reality. And they do have a lot to do with Wahabism, which
is the form of Islam common in the Saudi peninsula.

They can get lots of cannonfodder from the Muslim world may be the
reason they try to appear Islamist. It may really be about power and
control.

One doesn't contradict the other one. People may be driven by the
desire for power and control *and* to really, truly believe in what
they're doing (to the point of willing to die for it), at the same time.

In our "goody-goody" western upbringing we're conditioned to believe
that only "good people" (where "good" means "good by our standards") are
motivated by ideals while "bad" (again, by our standards) people are
motivated solely by selfish desires, for wealth, power and the like. It
ain't so. There is no doubt that many of the top Nazis truly believed
in the righteousness of their cause. When the day of reckoning came,
many of them preferred to kill themselves rather than live in a world
where their ideals have been defeated. Goebbels and his wife poisoned
themselves and all their kids as well. If that's not an act of a true
believer, I don't know what is.

So, disconcerting as the notion may be, the people "on the other side"
may be just as commited to their ideals as we're to ours. Possibly more
so. It'll be a grave error to underestimate them and assume that it is
not so. Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the
same"

If Hitler had won there wouldn't be a Muslim problem.
Nor a Middle East one...
Makes one pine for 'the good old days' eh?...

--

rofl. I will definitely have to remember this for the next left-wing
fanatic professor I encounter or muslim radical student setting up a
"kosher" hot dog fundraising stand on campus.

I wouldn't. It is an argument which only hold water in certain
circumstances.

 

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So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires
international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or
unwilling to be involved in.

The international community does not want our cooperation. They want the
United States to act as their dumb guard dog, do their bidding. Many
leaders are generally unhappy with the fact that we finally stepped up to
take charge. France is unhappy they are no longer a world power. Muslims
are unhappy they are no longer a world power.

When were Muslims a world power?

I would go into greater details but this kind of discussion is better left
with with a pint of ale or in a military/political strategy/science
newsgroup.

Fair one. Not that the rest of the thread has been particularly on topic for
any of the NGs it has gone to.

 

[T Wake]

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"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message
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In article <4525651A.5E36C356@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:

So how many prisons will we need to build, and what fraction of the GDP
will
go into staffing/supporting/maintaining them, in order to imprison 100
million people?

That would most likely sap the entire GDP of the USA.

No, not since it doesn't have to happen. I only spoke of the fear of
life
in prison being a deterent. If a crime is detered, it doesn't happen and
the jail isn't needed.


We've killed 200,000 Iraqis, and it hasn't deterred a damn thing. We're
going to have to imprison a helluva lot more than that, if we want to
convince anybody to do anything we want. So, now please go back and
answer the question.

Doesn't that imply killing them is not a deterrent? The problem is we are
killing Iraqis and the terrorist are Syrians. If the Jihadists thought they
would be jailed for life and have to suffer eighty years before they were
martyred it would take a fair bit of steam out of their sails. (IMHO of
course)

 

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When you go to war against a country, you
bomb its capital regardless of how large of a land mass the country
covers.

That would be great, but the terrorists aren't a country, and there is no
capital.

This is (IMHO) the oddest thing about the jingoism over the "war on terror."
People keep talking about bombing and invading, yet the list of countries
which would have to be bombed / invaded is ludicrous.

 

[T Wake]

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In article <45227EA6.7BB99886@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

[....]
Another big issue in Iran is that it's becoming more modern by its own
efforts.
Did you know for example that 70% of all Iranian graduates are now women.

Are you sure the real number isn't 69.372% or 71.054%? I never trust
round numbers.

Especially one which implies a grossly disproportionate segment of the
population are doing something.

What are the women studying at university? What are their future employment
prospects? Why aren't the men going? What are their future prospects? What
percentate of the university age population are women in the first place
(etc).

 

[T Wake]

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 19:58:38 +0100, "T Wake"
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I am impressed you managed to string
together so many words though. Well done.

Fuck you, retard boy.

See, wasn't that easier for you? I would hate to think about how much your
head hurts when you try the bigger words, so keep it simple.

As for your sex fantasies, you are welcome to have them but try to keep them
to yourself.

 

[T Wake]

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 20:03:52 +0100, "T Wake"
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 00:00:18 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
T Wake wrote:

The hearts and minds with the population did the trick.

As it has often done for the British Army but the US version has
fucked
that
up for sure.

---
You're talking about a bygone era where we both shared winning
hearts and minds.

This is now, where the rules are a little different. Are you making
any friends in Iraq that we aren't? You do still have a presence
there, don't you?

We were doing quite well initially actually until the actions of US
forces
ended
up with us all being tarred with the same brush.

Quite why we think of you lot as an 'ally' is almost beyond me.

---
Me too. The relationship is more like that between a vibrant young
man and old, doddering parents.


An interesting one. I suspect though, that the vibrant young man is
actually
more like an immature teenager who hasn't learned how to live in society
properly yet - but is big enough to reach the gun cabinet.

T Weak posts utter nonsensical bullshit yet again!

Funny guy. Your cutting wit wins the argument yet again. Now, wipe up, pull
your trousers back up and ask your nice Uncle Johnny to give you his daily
treats.

 

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"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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Yes, as good as Iraq had WMD.

They did, you ditzo.

Uhh...no...not since 1991. You really do need to get yourself educated,
and not just listen to Bush soundbites.

Sadly, you've asked for something impossible. It would be easier to invent a
perpetual motion device than get JoeBloe and education.

 

[T Wake]

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"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:22:17 -0400, Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> Gave us:

You're in a fantasy land. ONE SENTENCE of the NIE report was
leaked by the Democrats to try to discredit Bush. The four pages
around that one sentence, later released, say exactly the opposite.
Please get your "news" from someone other than Franken.

Good one.

Sycophant.

Agreeing with someone does NOT make me a sycophant, you Usenet total
retard.

No, it doesn't. There are lots of people here I agree with. Because you cant
see the different, it makes you an idiotic sycophant.