Jihad needs scientists

[Jim Thompson]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:09:10 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:hdc2i255c7620nqeirkujfgcua360gb6qd@4ax.com...
[snip]
Do a Google-groups search on Eeyore/Graham... he's a
depraved poster to porn groups, so he's probably in a cell, posting
from the prison library ;-)

Ummm...those references to eeyore liking pooh are not in fetish porn
groups...it's a children's story, and it's not the same eeyore. :^)

Eric Lucas

Do the search. He's on the porn groups. He even admitted it awhile
back when I inquired what he was doing there.

...Jim Thompson
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[Eeyore]

T Wake wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote
In article <45205B23.8190A32@hotmail.com>, Eeyorewrites:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

The Islamic terrorists aim at destruction of the western society

Where did you get that idea ?

From their own writings. Try to keep informed.

Which writings are they?

Which Islamic Terrorist movement are you referring to? Or do you lump them
all in as one? Are you able to see the difference between terrorist
organisations?

Is the "war" on terror a war against all terrorist organisations or just the
Islamic ones which have targeted the US?

Sssshhhh. You shouldn't ask tricky questions like that !

Obviously it's a 'war' on the terrorists 'we' disapprove of. We'll call the
other ones guerillas. That sounds alright doesn't it ?

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

John Fields wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:50:29 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

but the really unfortunate thing is that it was a
result of the fact that our leader chose to piss off the entire rest of the
world with his cowboy antics.

---
Whether his actions (or, rather, the consequences of his decisions)
would piss off the rest of the world isn't something that should
stand in the way of his doing what he considers to be the right
thing.

It's the wrong thing though. I doubt much thought was involved either aside from
xenophobia.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message

Heading down the road of philosophical arguments now, but would it be
possible to "win" a war on crime?

Yep, all it takes is a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and you too can
declare victory in your favorite war on x...and here's the best
part...without actually having to accomplish anything.

There's already been one of those and I don't think the public were fooled for
long.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

T Wake wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message

There wasn't such thing as a coherent "Axis" in 1939-40.

So what? WWII wasn't fought against a coherent Axis.

Nor is there such a thing as a coherent Al Qaeda either.

Graham

 

[T Wake]

<mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
news:zzYTg.6$45.103@news.uchicago.edu...

In article <35ydnZvRUoF4z73YRVny2A@pipex.net>, "T Wake"
usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> writes:

I think you have too broad a definition of the term "war." I fight a war
against grass in my garden every week. I seem to be losing.

How about cracking open Clausevitz and checking his definition.

How about Merriam Webster's dictionary:

(1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between
states or nations (2) : a period of such armed conflict

Clausewitz defines war as:

"War therefore is an act of violence to compel our opponent to fulfil our
will."

Who shall we pick as the authorative reference for the meaning of words?
Clausewitz was defining the term in the manner he wanted it used through out
the rest of his treatise. In your version how does Clausewitz define
"Terrorism" and when he discusses examples and methods of war, which do you
feel appropriate for the "War on Terror" (given that not all terrorists are
Islamic, and not all hail from the middle east)?

 

[Eeyore]

T Wake wrote:

The scariest analogies to WWII are the state of Germany in the 1930s.

Deeply so ! A democracy turned into an effective dictatorship in what ~ 5 years
?

A
despotic leader re-affirmed public support in his otherwise crackpot
government by creating a "bugbear" enemy out of a religious group. The same
despot undermined and ignore the League of Nations because he felt his
country was "glorious and powerful" enough to not have to listen to other
countries.

Using the second world war as an analogy for the steps taken to dismantle
the Islamic terrorist threat to the west is pretty off the wall.

I agree.

It's more of a reason to reconsider the US model of democracy in fact.

Graham

 

[T Wake]

<mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
news:g0%Tg.10$45.93@news.uchicago.edu...

As I said, you're thinking way too small. And, too parochial. The
belief that other people are just reacting to what we do, not acting
on their own plans and ideas, is touching, but not anchored in
reality. It is a pleasant belief, no doubt, since it presents us with
the illusion of control, with the sense that ultimately all that's
happening depends only on what we do, thus we just have to find the
proper mode of behavior and everything will be great. A pleasant
illusion, but no more than this.

So, if the West's actions have no impact on the behaviour of the "opponent,"
how can the war be won? Your post implies that nothing we [tinw] can do will
change their behaviour.

Do you advocate armed conflict purely out of vengeful spite?

 

[Eeyore]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:02:37 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Really? What sort of smut does he specialize in? Probably the
non-procreative British kind.

John

Probably ;-)

What's procreation got to do with it ? Never heard of contraceptives in Arizona ?

Graham

 

[T Wake]

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:14:33 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> Gave us:



mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

You may have noted that 9/11 was way before the invasion of Iraq.

Does Palestine ring any bells ?

The real demon is the State of Israel.

Graham

The real demon is the law that keeps people like me from shooting
fucking idiots like you.

Wow. Cutting, witty comeback. Did you used to work for Mad magazine?

The law doesn't prevent you from doing it. Fear of being caught and punished
does.

It would be a great world where you could shoot any one who didn't agree
with you, wouldn't it?

 

[Eeyore]

Gordon wrote:

This is sad and very unfortunate. The thing we must ask ourselves
is, had I been one of the cops would/should I have waited for the
suspect to pull what ever he had in his pocket out and just hope
it wasn't a gun?

I should think there was a language barrier, and the suspect
didn't understand what the cops were trying to tell him to do and
the cops didn't understand the suspect's replies to their
commands. The cops probably thought he was going for a gun, and
weren't willing to just wait and see if he started shooting.

This is a problem in a country where gun ownership is so widespread of course.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:09:10 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Ummm...those references to eeyore liking pooh are not in fetish porn
groups...it's a children's story, and it's not the same eeyore. :^)

Eric Lucas

Do the search. He's on the porn groups. He even admitted it awhile
back when I inquired what he was doing there.

I said I have a soft spot for readheads. Is there anything else you'd like to
introduce ?

Graham

 

[T Wake]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4520D8A3.4083F074@hotmail.com...

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

In article <4520CA69.C0BBA60B@hotmail.com>, Eeyore writes:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

You may have noted that 9/11 was way before the invasion of Iraq.

Does Palestine ring any bells ?

The real demon is the State of Israel.

You should note that Al Queda hardly ever mentioned Palestine before
9/11 either.

Al Qaeda wasn't really known about prior to 9/11 so your point is moot.

Depends who you talk to. The buggers were pretty active in Africa and the
Middle East.

Al Qaeda are not all "islamic extremists" though.

(Not to mention AQ were trying to implement the overthrough of Saddam
Hussein as well..)

The Palestinian issue was widely known to be one that caused anti-US
feeling though.
No surprises
really.

I do think the Arabs need to get over Palestine. Its not as if they dont
have other countries to go to...

 

[Eeyore]

T Wake wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message

As I said, you're thinking way too small. And, too parochial. The
belief that other people are just reacting to what we do, not acting
on their own plans and ideas, is touching, but not anchored in
reality. It is a pleasant belief, no doubt, since it presents us with
the illusion of control, with the sense that ultimately all that's
happening depends only on what we do, thus we just have to find the
proper mode of behavior and everything will be great. A pleasant
illusion, but no more than this.


So, if the West's actions have no impact on the behaviour of the "opponent,"
how can the war be won? Your post implies that nothing we [tinw] can do will
change their behaviour.

Do you advocate armed conflict purely out of vengeful spite?

That's how I see current US policy in fact. They just won't ever get over 9/11
until Mecca runs with blood.

Graham

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:45:18 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:23:18 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:46:21 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:14:02 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:


"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
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So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires
international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or
unwilling to be involved in.



I don't understand those words, "international cooperation." Where
might that be found?

John



That's where we pretend we like the French ;-)

...Jim Thompson

And the French pretend to have principles.

---
I think they do, actually, and it seems to me that their principles
revolve around their trying to be able to be infinite sinks.



--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Eeyore]

T Wake wrote:

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:14:33 +0100, Eeyore Gave us:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

You may have noted that 9/11 was way before the invasion of Iraq.

Does Palestine ring any bells ?

The real demon is the State of Israel.

Graham

The real demon is the law that keeps people like me from shooting
fucking idiots like you.

Wow. Cutting, witty comeback. Did you used to work for Mad magazine?

The law doesn't prevent you from doing it. Fear of being caught and punished
does.

It would be a great world where you could shoot any one who didn't agree
with you, wouldn't it?

At this level he's really a closet Islamist.

Graham

 

[Richard Herring]

In message <IRpTg.104052$jf1.1156126@phobos.telenet-ops.be>, Dirk Van de
moortel <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> writes

"martin griffith" <mart_in_medina@yahoo.esXXX> wrote in message
news:ge7rh2dhhptpsilekktnd9svbtdirpq2lb@4ax.com...
On 29 Sep 2006 09:06:40 -0700, in sci.electronics.design
science_for_jihad@yahoo.com wrote:

Jihad needs competent scientists in the fields of nuclear physics,
chemistry and biology. Qualified scientists and engineers at the
Master/Ph.D. level and above are encouraged to apply. Readiness to
travel and to pass a preliminary examination is required.

Anyone interested should send his anonymous CV to the address
science_for_jihad@yahoo.com . The CV should contain information
reflecting the academic level reached by the candidate and his work
experience. The information however should not be so accurate as to
identify the candidate. An appropriately fantasious nickname and a
birth date corresponding to the approximate age of the candidate should
also be provided, together with a working email address. Further
instructions will follow.

Hey, nice spoof, any suggestions on fantasious nick names?

Hadji Maharadji?

A Hindu who's been to Mecca?

--
Richard Herring

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:01:20 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:9c11i2dvshqagolpbfneulpfegh53tpgiv@4ax.com...

I seem to recall references to "Shock and Awe". Doesn't sound like the
cops
to me - unless it's the nutjob US cops who shoot everything in sight.

Very select things actually.

Police shoot at unarmed man 41 times

---
That's not selective?


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:01:20 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:9t11i2lai39s6o8j021nfhfc8sqbdaif7s@4ax.com...

I don't understand those words, "international cooperation." Where
might that be found?

Outside of the USA.

The Unite States gives away billions of dollars a year in aid to
other nations, asshole.

Actually it doesn't. Most of the money goes to friends of the administration
and those they bribe. The foreign countries wind up with the debt only.

---
Got some numbers?


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Lloyd Parker]

In article <i8c2i21iudf7dv1cpc4p91klck9bl53ppj@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 08:44:02 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


Have you forgotten that the USA regularly denigrates the UN ?

Hell, *I* regularly denegrate the UN. It's stupid, massively corrupt,
and makes decisions based on majority vote of governments run by
thugs.

John

Like the US government then.