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you failed to understand the difference.mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the
distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism.
I can assure you that many Americans don't understand the difference.
The one thing I'm sure of, in view of what you wrote before, is that
fail to understand the difference.mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
In article <45205B23.8190A32@hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
The Islamic terrorists aim at destruction of the western society
Where did you get that idea ?
From their own writings. Try to keep informed.
Idiot.
You mean they only migrate here becasue they want to destroy us ?
I said "Islamic terrorists". I didn't say "all Muslims". You still
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the
distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism.
I can assure you that many Americans don't understand the difference.
I think that's true, in much the same way that most non-USians don't
understand the difference between the US populace, and the self-annointed
few that have taken over the foreign policy of the country, and insist on
blaming the foolish behavior of our First Bufoon and his henchmen on
Americans as a whole.
One thing that doesn't help the average person understand the difference
between mainstream Islam and Islamic extremism is people like Meron saying
that mainstream Islam, as it is taught in the Koran, is all about killing
all non-Muslims.
Kindly point where did I say it.
For thirty years the British were
terrorized by Irish Republicans, it was never called a "war.
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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I see. You think that we've isolated ourselves and that we're
pursuing a strictly military solution to the problem.
You are insane.
I seem to recall references to "Shock and Awe". Doesn't sound like the cops
to me - unless it's the nutjob US cops who shoot everything in sight.
Very select things actually.
You cannot assure any such thing, you presumptuous dope.mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the
distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism.
I can assure you that many Americans don't understand the difference.
Of course it is. Read the reports on the rise in al Qaeda in Iraq andIn article <45206C09.31550FBE@hotmail.com>, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:
"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone
else?
No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.
But it isn't a war.
It is a war. Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go
away.
It's not a meaningful war since the 'enemy' isn't an identifiable
entity but a 'view'.
That just makes it a far worse and more dangerous war.
Far more dangerous to us in the West for sure ! It is making Radical
Islamist thinking more popular.
If you think, for a moment, that the popularity of radical Islamic
thinking depends much on what we call it, then you're thinking way too
small.
Hardly.
It depends on our behaviour - actually mainly that of the USA. Recent US
behaviour has made it all that
much more attractive.
As I said, you're thinking way too small. And, too parochial. The
belief that other people are just reacting to what we do, not acting
on their own plans and ideas, is touching, but not anchored in
reality.
Uh...no, it isn't, not with the Shrub and his henchmen running the country.It is a pleasant belief, no doubt
Don't be so naive, nobody is saying that it only depends on what we do, butsince it presents us with
the illusion of control, with the sense that ultimately all that's
happening depends only on what we do
Does your black-and-white world admit of a situation where the behavior of a, thus we just have to find the
proper mode of behavior and everything will be great.
The Unite States gives away billions of dollars a year in aid to"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires
international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or
unwilling to be involved in.
I don't understand those words, "international cooperation." Where
might that be found?
Outside of the USA.
That's where we pretend we like the French ;-)
And exactly what percentage of major nations with viable armies have offeredOn Mon, 02 Oct 2006 02:23:00 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> Gave us:
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message
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But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires
international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or
unwilling to be involved in.
I don't understand those words, "international cooperation." Where
might that be found?
Outside of the USA.
The Unite States gives away billions of dollars a year in aid to
other nations, asshole.
And the French pretend to have principles.On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:46:21 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:14:02 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i@4ax.com...
So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?
No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.
But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires
international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or
unwilling to be involved in.
I don't understand those words, "international cooperation." Where
might that be found?
John
That's where we pretend we like the French ;-)
...Jim Thompson
Because the "Mad Dog Yanks" was taken?On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 23:38:39 +0100, "T Wake"
usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> Gave us:
For thirty years the British were
terrorized by Irish Republicans, it was never called a "war.
Then why did they call themselves the Irish Republican Army (IRA)?
Actually it doesn't. Most of the money goes to friends of the administrationI don't understand those words, "international cooperation." Where
might that be found?
Outside of the USA.
The Unite States gives away billions of dollars a year in aid to
other nations, asshole.
Police shoot at unarmed man 41 timesI seem to recall references to "Shock and Awe". Doesn't sound like the
cops
to me - unless it's the nutjob US cops who shoot everything in sight.
Very select things actually.
Police shoot at unarmed man 41 times
An investigation has been launched into why four New York police officers
fired 41 shots at an unarmed man with no criminal record.
even before WWII. It is a long and continuous process that the Westmmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
news:g0%Tg.10$45.93@news.uchicago.edu...
In article <45206C09.31550FBE@hotmail.com>, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:
"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone
else?
No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.
But it isn't a war.
It is a war. Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go
away.
It's not a meaningful war since the 'enemy' isn't an identifiable
entity but a 'view'.
That just makes it a far worse and more dangerous war.
Far more dangerous to us in the West for sure ! It is making Radical
Islamist thinking more popular.
If you think, for a moment, that the popularity of radical Islamic
thinking depends much on what we call it, then you're thinking way too
small.
Hardly.
It depends on our behaviour - actually mainly that of the USA. Recent US
behaviour has made it all that
much more attractive.
As I said, you're thinking way too small. And, too parochial. The
belief that other people are just reacting to what we do, not acting
on their own plans and ideas, is touching, but not anchored in
reality.
Of course it is. Read the reports on the rise in al Qaeda in Iraq and
throughout the middle East, partially as a result of the US invasion. To
paraphrase a very wise man, ignoring the facts doesn't mean they don't
exist.
Islamic extremism has been on the rise for a very long time. Starting
quite honest, no pretending.On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:23:18 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:46:21 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:14:02 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i@4ax.com...
So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?
No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.
But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires
international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or
unwilling to be involved in.
I don't understand those words, "international cooperation." Where
might that be found?
John
That's where we pretend we like the French ;-)
...Jim Thompson
And the French pretend to have principles.
Well, here is at least one thing you can say for Al Queda. They are
Is it true that the word for virgin in Arabic is very similar to the wordNow, you can find enough stuff published by Al Queda to find what
their real grievance is. Though, of course, oblivion is so much more
pleasant.
You mean 'Islamism' btw.mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote
The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the
distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism.
It's also too subtle for many Americans to understand.Try to remain
truthful, to the extent of your ability.
It is a difference too subtle for most Muslims.
Chamberlain knew the game was up already.mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote
Western Europe wasn't interested in getting much involved in the
anshluss, because it wasn't the target of Nazi expansionism. Then,
though a tad more interested, it decided against getting involved with
Chechoslovakia because, again, it wasn't the target. And then...
The Anschluss was popular with most Austrians as well. It would be hard to
pick a side back then, and Chamberlain wasn't going near it.