Jihad needs scientists

In article <452630ED.D2D922DC@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:10:34 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
lparker@emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:

A lot of this anti-US fervor started with Democrat Presidential
candidates trying out their sound bytes in 2002-2004 in Europe.

/BAH
OH BS. It started with Bush invading another nation.

Actually, it started with FDR invading another nation. France,
specifically.

You're being very very silly.

Graham

I don't think so. A couple of things are at work here. One is the
military and cultural and technological and scientific dominance of
the USA as compared to Europe, which is bound to cause some
resentment. The other is expressed in the Chinese proverb, "if you
save someone's life, they will hate you forever."

You really are monumentally stupid.

You are fat, poor, unhappy, and frustrated by the state of the world.
I am none of these. Explain to me why I am the stupid one here.

Because you're stupidly happy in your profound ignorance ?

It's not ignorance; I am happy by choice, then design. Try it some
time.

The only thing that worries me about the 'state of the world' is what
idiocy America's up to next.

You are blaming externals for an internal state, a convenient and
paralyzing cop-out. For anyone reasonably healthy and living in a
free, developed country not to be happy is stunning stupidity. Sad,
too.

Our freedoms are under threat as a result of American stupidity.

Now I understand you. It is not Bin Laden's fault that he
is going to kill a lot of people. It's the Americans' fault
that caused Islamic extremists to want to destroy Western
civilization.

Since these extremists refer to events in the 14th
and 15th centuries, then it must be the Americans who
committed these acts that justfify the killing.

/BAH

 

In article <4526343A.24C8CC03@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

ISTR that Bin Laden's next goal is to kill 3 million people

Cite ?

I don't have one since I can't access the web.

/BAH

 

In article <452634AB.3341D603@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

That said, you are nitpicking in the same manner. More than ten times as
many people die every year as died as a result of the 11 Sep 01 attack.
That
is TEN attacks of that scale (and that was a large scale attack by
anyone's
standards) every single year. Year in, year out and accepted as a normal
risk in life.

Amazing really.

So much for mess prevention. So how many people does Bin Laden
have to kill before you deal with this problem? 300,000?
3,000,000? 300,000,000? A billion?

What makes you think any of the above are even remotely possible ?

Because I can think of one that will kill a billion in less
than 1/2 year. If I can think it, they certainly can. They
were brought in a culture that admires killing; I wasn't.

/BAH

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:48:43 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:ckd8i2d471ak7j75nlcnugpbk8j5th89v6@4ax.com...

Because America has the wherewithal and the will to do whatever it
wants to, and all the little guys resent that.

Bullies are generally resented except by toadies.

---
That didn't seem to bother England back in her salad days, but now
that we have to kick a little butt every now and then it's not OK
for us?

You sound a little hypocritical to me, Homer.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:50:24 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Fields wrote:
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:06:56 +0100, "T Wake" wrote:
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote

"It" being radical Islam,

Radical Islam can't be described as having a "single unified goal."

I disagree. I think the single, unified goal would be the
acquisition of unlimited power.

Since you're incapable even of identifying 'radical Islam' your thoughts count for
nothing.
---
Sheesh, as if the opinions of a pinhead like you mattered.

You even have to get clarification after clarification from T Wake
because you can't understand his lucid prose and you dare to
criticize others?

For shame.

Inability to answer the question noted.

---
Refusal, pinhead.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <4525DA2C.7CFA4E5E@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

So, you don't carry anything else?...........
.........An insurance card so you don't die while waiting for
the hospital to make sure they will be paid for their services?

You really don't know much about the UK do you ?

Medical services are free.

You pay for them through taxes (among other ways). They ain't free no

matter what the politicians tell you.

 

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <eg56e4$8ss_004@s831.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

In article
kurtullman-0F836F.10021405102006@customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx>,
Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <w88Vg.9105$vJ2.869@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


To consider those real issues but to call the abuse of minors by a
Congressman "a smokescreen" is about as disingenuous as politics gets.

Define abuse, (seriously). I usually reserve that term for actual
physical contact (sexual, assaultive) and (so far at least) there is
nothing to indicate that either happened. Although I am the first to
suggest that the possibility it did happen is much more likely given
both the history of abuse and behaviors that got him into trouble.
Talkin' dirty is illegal, but I still say it is a couple orders of
magnitude below physical and sexual abuse.

When did talking dirty become illegal?

/BAH

Talking dirty to those under 18 using electronic means such as
instant messaging and e-mails is illegal. (Due to a recently passed
federal law). Now you happy (grin)?

 

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <452633ED.B02A967A@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

another possibility is
the goal is to cede to these extremists

Are you really that monumentally stupid ?

Listening to their greivances isn't 'ceding' btw.

Arafat used this tactic. He kept people at the table talking
about peace to give his side time to accumulate weapons. He
even got all these rich countries to fund his efforts.

You're suggesting that because one person did this then we must never
again listen ? That's a very blinkered view indeed.

Heck not learning from earlier mistakes is somewhat past merely

blinkered...

 

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <p3dci29iodgrv27559q0ffvqh29bao5me3@4ax.com>,
JoeBloe <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:58:42 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> Gave us:


"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:fucbi29sjnq3iiboi57rpd4hifvsemhmjc@4ax.com...

Jay Leno: "Which two countries border the United States?"

Girl on the Street: "Ummm, errr, ahhh, Europe and ummm, Paris?"

Yep, that's an American all right. Like those who think Alaska is an
island.


Do you actually think that it was unrehearsed and not intentional,
dumbass?

Obviously it was unrehearsed. Apparently you can't tell the difference
between fact and fiction. Since you clearly can't tell your ass from a hole
in the ground that doesn't surprise anyone.


Idiot! When Leno goes out on the street, it is NOT *DURING* his
show it is prior to it, and the sessions last for hours, and yes
rehearsed bits get filmed, and then the editing department puts
together a little piece for the show. You really can't be that
stupid, can you?

Andit has been going on long enough that most people know it is the
idiots that get the screen time.

 

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <452635E5.6EA696F2@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

A ridiculous idea. We won the Battle of Britain and Germany knew it couldn't
invade without air superiority.

Graham

I never have been able to figure out why this is such a popular dick-
measuring area. The fact is that you couldn't have done it without us
and we couldn't have done it without you.

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:52:47 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:00:23 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:

So what? If push comes to shove we'll beat the shit out of them too,
whether they're popular or not, dumbass.

Beat the shit out of whom exactly ?

Whoever chooses to launch an attack on us or our friends or chooses
to make it seem like an attack from them is imminent. Or, maybe, as
you'd like to believe, just because they piss us off.

How exactly does Iraq fit into this justification for beating the crap out
of somebody?

It doesn't of course.

---
Sure it does. AIUI, Saddam Hussein was violating, with impunity,
all of the UN sanctions that had been placed on Iraq, including
stealing the money that was supposed to have been used for
humanitarian purposes. Eventually the time finally came when we
decided that he needed to be made accountable, so we went after him.

And found him. Not like a proud soldier willing to give his life
for Allah and the jihad, but like a coward in a rathole.
---

Didn't do anything to us or any of our friends, at least since
the first Gulf War, no credible threat, absolutely no WMDs of any sort.

---
Just because none were found doesn't mean their precursors or
finished weapons weren't moved before we got there.
---

It was pre-emptive defence ! Or so they now tell us.

---
It was a preemptive offensive strike.
---

Their army was so pitifully weak that there's no rational reason to believe
that and attack from them was imminent to anybody

They certainly couldn't attack anyone they didn't have a border with for sure.

---
More's the reason for attacking them when they're weak; you can be
sure of a win, you can destroy their capability to strengthen their
military, and you can minimize the loss of human life in the
conflict.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <eg5el9$8qk_011@s831.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Because I can think of one that will kill a billion in less
than 1/2 year. If I can think it, they certainly can. They
were brought in a culture that admires killing; I wasn't.

/BAH

Religion as a blood sport..

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Eeyore wrote:

The above made perfect sense to me and it was actually very funny.

Graham

Bush is one of the presidents, who shares some light to the own people,
in Americans own state.
E.g. deactivating Current, especially when Hot-weather...



I want to say one good move of Mr. Bush Jr.:

When he started presidential, one of his first actions was reducing the
funds for solar-energy science by 50%. He was symphatically to me, at
that time.



Best regards,

Daniel Mandic

P.S.: Amricas 50:50 Syndrom is like an empty primary-cell . Totally
stillstand.... only wait.. wait ... and shit, they can good.

Greening the whole world and burying of it, after it had grown out/big,
could let us overlive on the world. The anatural heating, caused by
shortcoming people is decorrelating our 7Mio year experience lineage.
We saw more than one ice-age , but the next will be as more cold as
it was more warm before. Energy is never loss. Maybe in the Core of the
Galaxy is many other than we know.... but we are here, here on Earth
and we cannot fly like Superman. America should learn fast... not to
mention the benefit for us all, when America plays the role model.

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:00:07 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Fields wrote:

I think the US's actions speak otherwise in that, clearly, we have
no aspirations to Empire.

" the Project for the New American Century is a non-profit, educational organization
whose goal is to promote American global leadership "

http://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm

Had we chosen to we could have kept
Germany and Japan after we beat them, but we didn't.

The *USA* didn't beat them and they weren't yours to keep.

---
We sure as hell did

I'd give you most of the credit for Japan but Europe ? No way ever.


, and they were spoils of war, to do with as we saw fit.

No they weren't !

---
Sure they were. As has already been pointed out, we occupied Japan
for as long as we thought necessary to ensure that their former
governmental system would be completely dismantled and irrevocably
replaced by one of our choosing.

As far as Germany goes, it was split up much like a treasure chest
won in a war (the "spoils of war") might be.
---

How do you think England got to be an empire, by giving it all back?

How many countries did we have to go to war with ( and how many killed ) to get the
Empire ?

---
Who cares? The point is that the Empire came into existence because
of your acquisition and retention of "spoils of war".


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:07:41 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:qnh8i2l3sk3mgns6ct1ausd966j3ah3kiu@4ax.com...

In no real sense. At best they are fatuous claims of superiority "God's
chosen people". Reality rarely confirms such beliefs.

---
Really?

Dietary laws?

Acceptable social behavior?

Personal cleanliness?

Settlement of disputes?

and on and on...

None of these are important to insure the survival of people who
have lived in the desert for thousands of years?

Australian aborigines?

---
Same thing for any aboriginal people, but passed down by word of
mouth and example learned from experience.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:07:41 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news6i8i2ptrh2q1n34ss14v6f23o7n0vovco@4ax.com...

When you see that half of the workers are tearing down the outhouse faster
than the other half are building it then it is a reasonable conclusion
that
organization was not a high priority.

---
What was being talked about was strategies which are being
formulated, in secret, to deal with terrorism.

What are you talking about?

The obvious results of these brilliant 'strategies'.

---
I see. You have no idea what the strategies are or how or if
they're being implemented, yet you're prepared to comment on what
their "obvious" results are?

Sounds to me like you're saying you'll know what supper's going to
be without even asking the cook.

Amazing talent.

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:15:26 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Fields wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:24:11 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ever wondered why it [international terrorism] happens to the USA
most btw ?

---
Nope. Losers want to blame everyone but themselves for their
predicaments and, so, take shots at the champ in an attemp to try to
convince themselves that they're not impotent.

Let me explain then.

It becasue America pokes its nose into stuff that's none of its business
all the time and just generally likes to kick the little guys around.

---
Translation:

Because America has the wherewithal and the will to do whatever it
wants to, and all the little guys resent that.

That too. Especially when it makes no sense.

---
What makes sense to us might not make sense to you, but that doesn't
mean that'll keep us from doing it.
---

What do you think about the Vincennes shooting down an Iranian Airbus then ?

---
From:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/3/newsid_4678000/4678707.stm

"The USS Vincennes had tracked the plane electronically and warned
it to keep away. When it did not the ship fired two surface-to-air
missiles, at least one of which hit the airliner."

I think the airplane's pilot should have had the good sense to heed
the Vincennes' warning.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Eeyore wrote:

You're very silly. I reckon I'd rather have Russia as an ally than
the USA frankly.

Graham

I would have no one (constitutioned State) for ally.... the Nature is
my ally.

 

[Daniel Mandic]

JoeBloe wrote:

Your US hate thing has really gotten the best of whatever you may
have once been.

You are surely no scientist.

He never said that he hates something. You say he hates....

What Reference is you, that you can take out of his words how he
hates. Ah, yes, I forgot... You are Dr. America, healing the world with
chemical, genetical and you would even use nanotach to do so.

WE DON'T NEED YOUR DIS- AND MAYORDERS. We are healthy, thanks!


I cannot speak for the Untited Kingdom, but as Eyore said, there is many
free social.
Hmmm :-(, better than actually here :-(, and I thought we could measure
with the swedish-social system. (At least it was so before...
1951-1999).

It's getting better.... 2006. (phhheew, again that 7 years )




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Eeyore wrote:

I'd have some sympathy for you were you not such a blinkered
war-mongering dickhead.

Graham

Yes, me too.


Sometimes I think, people start their cars as other load their weapon.
They have to know that a car is like a tank, when hitting an unarmoured
person.

Taking the horn with me .... wuuuii, it can lead to a damaged
car, indeed!
It's also forbidden to take the Horn in the town-area. A small 'beep'
or, 'beep-beep' SOMETIMES, is better. Even better is the Hand in the
Mouth whistle, easy done through the opened car-window.



Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic