I've dumped Linux and moved to Windows XP.

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:43:29 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:

"Sten Solberg" <stens@powertech.no> wrote in message news:<4RR8ymkuyquO-pn2-OByZYTGv99CT@localhost>...
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:53:47 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:

"Sten Solberg" <stens@powertech.no> wrote in message news:<4RR8ymkuyquO-pn2-eeP2IuMdU8Bd@localhost>...
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 18:50:46 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:

"Sten Solberg" <stens@powertech.no> wrote in message news:<4RR8ymkuyquO-pn2-45mQ8FHG7TZW@localhost>...
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:53:11 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:

"Sten Solberg" <stens@powertech.no> wrote in message news:<4RR8ymkuyquO-pn2-HNd3xLd22D76@localhost>...
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:26:54 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:

"Sten Solberg" <stens@powertech.no> wrote in message news:<4RR8ymkuyquO-pn2-dcj3bdSWzQ50@localhost>...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:42:45 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:

Well, out of the box, OS/2 does lack local file system security (...)

When will you ever learn, Curtis? Out of the box, OS/2 does have some security
which, when applied, also secures the file system.

Perhaps, if we use an extremely abstract and superficial meaning of
"secures the file system". However, generally speaking, when one
speaks of "file system security", one is speaking of a mechanism built
into the file system which governs access to each file according to
user access-levels and permissions. FAT and HPFS have no such
mechanism, and I do not believe that JFS does either. Why would they?
After all, OS/2 is a _SINGLE_ _USER_ operating system, and that is
the point. Based on this understanding of what is truly _meant_ by
"file system security", my statement stands.

Well, on the - your - premise that OS/2 is a single user system, it seems rather
specious to knock it for lacking local file system security as per your
definition, which presupposes a multi-user setup.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=163715e7.0406230742.43a6f4d1%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

MMI] I just can't wait until some of you comes here into COOA ranting
MMI] about NT's local security and OS/2's lack of it. :)

CB] Well, out of the box, OS/2 does lack local file system security
CB] and multi-user access, and the 3rd party add-on that provides it
CB] is a beta port of Linux code.

As you should clearly see, I acknowledged this "presupposition" going
out the gate.

So it would seem

"So it is", is what you mean, Sten.

So much for my trying to be generous

You're starting to get insulting, Sten; "generosity" doesn't enter
into this at all. You started this argument because you didn't grasp
the issues and context, but you refuse to let it go, latching onto
"the uninitiated" as your excuse to keep fighting.

You are too easily insulted, Curtis.

Who's to say you aren't just naturally insulting, Sten? ;)
I guess that wouldn't be you, Curtis :)

snip

-- snip --

Listen, Sten, if you have such a problem with my use of the word
"lacks", then, in your mind, just substitute the phrase "doesn't have"
for the word "lacks" in my statements, and be on your merry way.

Thanks, that is a lot better. The best would be if you could just write it and
save yourself some aggravation.

Well, what I don't understand is why you couldn't have just made the
mental substitution without my prompting -- that also would have saved
me some aggravation.
Sure, but in this case I see "lacks" to be both illogical and more of a snub
than "doesn't have". Your suggested mental exercise would only serve to sweep
your errors, as well as my opinion, under the carpet.

Also, even if I had used "doesn't have" instead
of "lacks" in my posting, there is a good probability that you would
have still taken issue with the isolated claim that OS/2 "doesn't have
local file system security", based on the nature of your first post in
this discussion.
Agreed, but our disagreement might then have been reduced to a discussion of
"effective/-ly".

And
don't worry so much about that which you cannot control, namely, how
"the uninitiated" perceive things, and how I choose to state things.

How we choose to state things is important, not least in c.o.o.advocacy.

Indeed. However, as I hinted above, some statements may draw ire
regardless of how they are stated, and there is always the possibility
that a given statement will be misread or misconstrued, again, no
matter how carefully it is worded.
I agree with this, as general statements.

--
Best regards
Sten Solberg

.... Also sprach Zarathustra: "Have a Good Day!"
 
tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated enough to know
that OS/2, out of the box, supports security and multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?
Tholen!
 
chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated enough to know
that OS/2, out of the box, supports security and multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!
Classic evasion.
 
"Sten Solberg" <stens@powertech.no> wrote in message news:<4RR8ymkuyquO-pn2-vgTRUEdd4K04@localhost>...
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:43:29 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:
-- snip--

Well, what I don't understand is why you couldn't have just made the
mental substitution without my prompting -- that also would have saved
me some aggravation.

Sure, but in this case I see "lacks" to be both illogical and more of a snub
than "doesn't have". Your suggested mental exercise would only serve to sweep
your errors, as well as my opinion, under the carpet.
I cannot help how you choose to see things, but there were no errors
on my part to sweep under a proverbial carpet; my choice of language
was correct, and not illogical in the slightest. As I have indicated
before, you simply read into my statements more than was actually
there, but, again, that is your choice.

Aside from that, we appear to be in agreement.


Curtis
 
Curtis Bass wrote:

I cannot help how you choose to see things,
Well, you're a fucking useless troll, aren't you, eh.
 
tholen@antispam.ham wrote:
chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated enough to
know that OS/2, out of the box, supports security and
multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!

Classic evasion.
No, you stupid fuck. "Tholen!" is the irony. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
 
In <ZUNLxORqMAOxC7A15C46NyaGWoDFumLL@alt.sex.escorts.ads>, "tholen@antispam.ham, the defective, ascertaining hog" <CnyEr8bHZoZV@alt.sex.escorts.ads> writes:

chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated enough to
know that OS/2, out of the box, supports security and
multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!

Classic evasion.

No, you stupid fuck. "Tholen!" is the irony. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
For someone faking such an identity, I'm sure it is quite ironic.
 
tholen@antispam.ham wrote:
In <ZUNLxORqMAOxC7A15C46NyaGWoDFumLL@alt.sex.escorts.ads>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the defective, ascertaining hog"
CnyEr8bHZoZV@alt.sex.escorts.ads> writes:

chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated enough to
know that OS/2, out of the box, supports security and
multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!

Classic evasion.

No, you stupid fuck. "Tholen!" is the irony. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

For someone faking such an identity, I'm sure
Don't lie.
 
In <KtzOktXgTH0IFE839B05yjyYfn60Q4Yj@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism>, "tholen@antispam.ham, the keeper of the pantry" <F25V27FGdUgr@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism> writes:

In <ZUNLxORqMAOxC7A15C46NyaGWoDFumLL@alt.sex.escorts.ads>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the defective, ascertaining hog"
CnyEr8bHZoZV@alt.sex.escorts.ads> writes:

chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated enough to
know that OS/2, out of the box, supports security and
multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!

Classic evasion.

No, you stupid fuck. "Tholen!" is the irony. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

For someone faking such an identity, I'm sure

Don't lie.
How ironic, coming from someone who just truncated my previous response,
while using a fake identity.
 
tholen@antispam.ham wrote:
In <KtzOktXgTH0IFE839B05yjyYfn60Q4Yj@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the keeper of the pantry"
F25V27FGdUgr@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism> writes:

In <ZUNLxORqMAOxC7A15C46NyaGWoDFumLL@alt.sex.escorts.ads>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the defective, ascertaining hog"
CnyEr8bHZoZV@alt.sex.escorts.ads> writes:

chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated enough
to know that OS/2, out of the box, supports security and
multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!

Classic evasion.

No, you stupid fuck. "Tholen!" is the irony. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

For someone faking such an identity, I'm sure

Don't lie.

How ironic, coming from someone who just truncated my previous
response, while using a fake identity.
You won't get this at all, but others will. You are the joke and that's the
irony.
 
In <flL2o49H2L4u39D5B584WC3PI5WYQEyk@alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.amateur.male>, "tholen@antispam.ham, the beady-eyed, geometrising flapper" <uvTx9syPQT4J@alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.amateur.male> writes:

In <KtzOktXgTH0IFE839B05yjyYfn60Q4Yj@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the keeper of the pantry"
F25V27FGdUgr@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism> writes:

In <ZUNLxORqMAOxC7A15C46NyaGWoDFumLL@alt.sex.escorts.ads>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the defective, ascertaining hog"
CnyEr8bHZoZV@alt.sex.escorts.ads> writes:

chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated enough
to know that OS/2, out of the box, supports security and
multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!

Classic evasion.

No, you stupid fuck. "Tholen!" is the irony. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

For someone faking such an identity, I'm sure

Don't lie.

How ironic, coming from someone who just truncated my previous
response, while using a fake identity.

You won't get this at all, but others will.
On what basis do you speak for others?

You are the joke and that's the irony.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic,
coming from someone faking an identity.
 
tholen@antispam.ham wrote:
In

flL2o49H2L4u39D5B584WC3PI5WYQEyk@alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.amateur.male
,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the beady-eyed, geometrising flapper"
uvTx9syPQT4J@alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.amateur.male> writes:

In
KtzOktXgTH0IFE839B05yjyYfn60Q4Yj@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the keeper of the pantry"
F25V27FGdUgr@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism> writes:

In <ZUNLxORqMAOxC7A15C46NyaGWoDFumLL@alt.sex.escorts.ads>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the defective, ascertaining hog"
CnyEr8bHZoZV@alt.sex.escorts.ads> writes:

chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated
enough to know that OS/2, out of the box, supports
security and multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!

Classic evasion.

No, you stupid fuck. "Tholen!" is the irony. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

For someone faking such an identity, I'm sure

Don't lie.

How ironic, coming from someone who just truncated my previous
response, while using a fake identity.

You won't get this at all, but others will.

On what basis do you speak for others?
At last count I had 800 million socks.

Allow me to save you a copy/paste operation...

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim ..."

You are the joke and that's the irony.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim,
It isn't a claim. It's a statement of fact.

Allow me to save you a copy/paste operation...

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim ..."

and rather ironic,
coming from someone faking an identity.
I said you wouldn't get it. I was right. You didn't.

Allow me to save you a copy/paste operation...

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim ..."
 
In <TXPr0TNYP1Ri48DE57014MO8rvasdcDc@alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pussy>, "tholen@antispam.ham, the senseless, hooting pignut" <ZLxvznCDJ7wx@alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pussy> writes:

In
flL2o49H2L4u39D5B584WC3PI5WYQEyk@alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.amateur.male
,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the beady-eyed, geometrising flapper"
uvTx9syPQT4J@alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.amateur.male> writes:

In
KtzOktXgTH0IFE839B05yjyYfn60Q4Yj@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the keeper of the pantry"
F25V27FGdUgr@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism> writes:

In <ZUNLxORqMAOxC7A15C46NyaGWoDFumLL@alt.sex.escorts.ads>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the defective, ascertaining hog"
CnyEr8bHZoZV@alt.sex.escorts.ads> writes:

chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated
enough to know that OS/2, out of the box, supports
security and multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!

Classic evasion.

No, you stupid fuck. "Tholen!" is the irony. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

For someone faking such an identity, I'm sure

Don't lie.

How ironic, coming from someone who just truncated my previous
response, while using a fake identity.

You won't get this at all, but others will.

On what basis do you speak for others?

At last count I had 800 million socks.
Non sequitur.

Allow me to save you a copy/paste operation...
Classic erroneous presupposition.

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim ..."
Doesn't make it any less non sequitur.

You are the joke and that's the irony.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim,

It isn't a claim. It's a statement of fact.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Allow me to save you a copy/paste operation...

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim ..."
On what basis do you claim that it was a copy/paste operation?
Note the difference in the punctuation.

and rather ironic,
coming from someone faking an identity.

I said you wouldn't get it. I was right. You didn't.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Allow me to save you a copy/paste operation...

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim ..."
Still obsessed with a fake identity, eh?
 
In <qUoSwmvrQnN4F74420AAdo0yn4IlaiJl@alt.sex.midgets>, "tholen@antispam.ham, the horn-mad, transmitting grocery boy" <hsZptiTlsw84@alt.sex.midgets> writes:

Still obsessed with a fake identity, eh?

Excellent self-*NUKE*, tholen.
What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with OS/2, faker?
 
tholen@antispam.ham wrote:
In <qUoSwmvrQnN4F74420AAdo0yn4IlaiJl@alt.sex.midgets>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the horn-mad, transmitting grocery boy"
hsZptiTlsw84@alt.sex.midgets> writes:

Still obsessed with a fake identity, eh?

Excellent self-*NUKE*, tholen.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with OS/2
Everything.

Fakir.
 
In <SDK9Kp77JVZF92C8D80Em91kWXnOMcvB@alt.sex.masturbation>, "tholen@antispam.ham, the goat-herded, gracing frog" <R3GgdL0AQBfB@alt.sex.masturbation> writes:

In <qUoSwmvrQnN4F74420AAdo0yn4IlaiJl@alt.sex.midgets>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the horn-mad, transmitting grocery boy"
hsZptiTlsw84@alt.sex.midgets> writes:

Still obsessed with a fake identity, eh?

Excellent self-*NUKE*, tholen.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with OS/2

Everything.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. But I will note that you
didn't deny making a classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

faker?

Fakir.
Non sequitur.
 
tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

James Brown <Godfather@Of.Soul> writes:

Non sequitur.

PAPA'S GOT A BRAND NEW BAG !

Also non sequitur.
Amazing.
 

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