Is this homemade battery charger circuit dangerous?

John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be trivial to shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is idiotic at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to charge a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture. Not that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare. Car batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking about here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will apply zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R = 0 when R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into a battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery with all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses. No one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the chargers and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."
Click to expand...

Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
 
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be trivial to
shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is idiotic
at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to charge
a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese
electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture. Not that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare. Car
batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking about
here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will apply
zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R = 0 when
R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into a
battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery with
all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses. No one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the chargers
and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.
Click to expand...
I had an old starter motor bolted to a lump of wood for checking batteries -
would've been a more realistic test if it was bolted to an engine, but such
as it was.
 
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:28:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be trivial to
shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is idiotic
at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to charge
a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese
electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture. Not that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare. Car
batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking about
here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will apply
zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R = 0 when
R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into a
battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery with
all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses. No one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the chargers
and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.

I had an old starter motor bolted to a lump of wood for checking batteries -
would've been a more realistic test if it was bolted to an engine, but such
as it was.
Click to expand...
---
So what you were really testing was the lump of wood's resistance to a
transient moment arm instead of the starter motor's ability to deliver
power to a load?

Good thing you weren't around when Rolls Royce's Merlin was on the
drafting table.

--
JF
 
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:28:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be trivial
to
shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is idiotic
at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to
charge
a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese
electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture. Not
that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare. Car
batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking about
here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will
apply
zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R = 0
when
R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into a
battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery
with
all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses. No
one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the
chargers
and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.

I had an old starter motor bolted to a lump of wood for checking
batteries -
would've been a more realistic test if it was bolted to an engine, but
such
as it was.

---
So what you were really testing was the lump of wood's resistance to a
transient moment arm instead of the starter motor's ability to deliver
power to a load?
Click to expand...

Unfortunately its not a binaries - so I can't draw pictures to help you
understand!
 
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:59:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:28:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be trivial
to
shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is idiotic
at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to
charge
a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese
electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture. Not
that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare. Car
batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking about
here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will
apply
zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R = 0
when
R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into a
battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery
with
all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses. No
one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the
chargers
and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.

I had an old starter motor bolted to a lump of wood for checking
batteries -
would've been a more realistic test if it was bolted to an engine, but
such
as it was.

---
So what you were really testing was the lump of wood's resistance to a
transient moment arm instead of the starter motor's ability to deliver
power to a load?


Unfortunately its not a binaries - so I can't draw pictures to help you
understand!
Click to expand...
---
Poor baby.

Try words, or post a picture to a site of your choosing.

--
JF
 
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 20:13:00 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be trivial to shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is idiotic at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to charge a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture. Not that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare. Car batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking about here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will apply zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R = 0 when R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into a battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery with all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses. No one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the chargers and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free.
Click to expand...
If you bring in a zero-volt, totally discharged battery, what do they do?

Declare it dead, usually, and sell you a new one.


I see more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.
Click to expand...
Will they put current into zero volts?


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 20:13:00 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?mike.terrell@earthlink.net? wrote:

?
?John Larkin wrote:
??
?? On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?? ?mike.terrell@earthlink.net? wrote:
??
?? ?
?? ?John Larkin wrote:
?? ??
?? ?? On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?? ?? ?mike.terrell@earthlink.net? wrote:
?? ??
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ?John Larkin wrote:
?? ?? ??
?? ?? ?? I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be trivial to shut off the
?? ?? ?? charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.
?? ?? ??
?? ?? ?? A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is idiotic at best.
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ? Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to charge a
?? ?? ?battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?
?? ??
?? ?? What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese electronic charger
?? ?? that doesn't current limit?
?? ?
?? ?
?? ? A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture. Not that
?? ?you give a damn.
??
?? If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare. Car batteries
?? are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking about here.
??
?? If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will apply zero
?? power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R = 0 when R = 0.
?? Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.
??
?? Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into a battery
?? with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery with all
?? zero volt cells.
??
?? ?
?? ?
?? ?? ? Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?
?? ??
?? ?? Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?
?? ?
?? ?
?? ? Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses. No one
?? ?who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.
??
?? They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the chargers and
?? then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."
?
?
? Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
?around here will test a car battery under load ? for free.

If you bring in a zero-volt, totally discharged battery, what do they do?

Declare it dead, usually, and sell you a new one.
Click to expand...

What kind of thieves or fools do you deal with? Hell, even Sears
will take a large jump pack to start your vehicle, if it's in their part
of a mall parking lot. I have never had one try to sell me a battery,
but they will suggest that the battery may have been damaged by being
completely discharged. That depends on how long it sat that way. If
anything, I have found the suppliers to be too conservative on replacing
parts. Of course, I grew up in a town with multiple heavy industries,
not places that cater to know nothing snobs. Destin Florida was like
that. The wholesalers and supply houses wouldn't sell to anyone that
wasn't in their specific trade. I had to threaten more than one that I
would contact their corporate offices, and the branches I normally dealt
with before I could buy TFFN/THHN wire or 4" copper pipe.


I see more
?people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
?stores'.

Will they put current into zero volts?

--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
Click to expand...

--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
 
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:59:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:28:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be
trivial
to
shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is
idiotic
at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to
charge
a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese
electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture. Not
that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare. Car
batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking
about
here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will
apply
zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R = 0
when
R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into a
battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery
with
all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses. No
one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the
chargers
and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.

I had an old starter motor bolted to a lump of wood for checking
batteries -
would've been a more realistic test if it was bolted to an engine, but
such
as it was.

---
So what you were really testing was the lump of wood's resistance to a
transient moment arm instead of the starter motor's ability to deliver
power to a load?


Unfortunately its not a binaries - so I can't draw pictures to help you
understand!

---
Poor baby.
Click to expand...
Your hurling insults is getting ever more weak - why not give it up before
*EVERYONE* notices you're an imbecile.
 
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:06:00 +0100, "Ian Field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:59:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:28:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be
trivial
to
shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is
idiotic
at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to
charge
a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese
electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture. Not
that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare. Car
batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking
about
here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will
apply
zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R = 0
when
R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into a
battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery
with
all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses. No
one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the
chargers
and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.

I had an old starter motor bolted to a lump of wood for checking
batteries -
would've been a more realistic test if it was bolted to an engine, but
such
as it was.

---
So what you were really testing was the lump of wood's resistance to a
transient moment arm instead of the starter motor's ability to deliver
power to a load?


Unfortunately its not a binaries - so I can't draw pictures to help you
understand!

---
Poor baby.

Your hurling insults is getting ever more weak - why not give it up before
*EVERYONE* notices you're an imbecile.
Click to expand...
---
Because of the way I conduct myself here and because of my
contributions, over the years, I'm sure I'm not considered an
imbecile.

Neither are you, but because of your attitude and demeanor I'm sure
more than just one of us considers you to be little more than a gadfly
and troublemaker.

--
JF
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 01:17:49 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:06:00 +0100, "Ian Field"
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:28:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be
trivial
to
shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is
idiotic
at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to
charge
a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese
electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture. Not
that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare. Car
batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking
about
here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will
apply
zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R = 0
when
R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into a
battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery
with
all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses. No
one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the
chargers
and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.

I had an old starter motor bolted to a lump of wood for checking
batteries -
would've been a more realistic test if it was bolted to an engine, but
such
as it was.

---
So what you were really testing was the lump of wood's resistance to a
transient moment arm instead of the starter motor's ability to deliver
power to a load?


Unfortunately its not a binaries - so I can't draw pictures to help you
understand!

---
Poor baby.

Your hurling insults is getting ever more weak - why not give it up before
*EVERYONE* notices you're an imbecile.

---
Because of the way I conduct myself here and because of my
contributions, over the years, I'm sure I'm not considered an
imbecile.

Neither are you, but because of your attitude and demeanor I'm sure
more than just one of us considers you to be little more than a gadfly
and troublemaker.
Click to expand...
John! You are so-o-o-o kind >:-}

...Jim Thompson
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:06:00 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:59:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:28:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be
trivial
to
shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is
idiotic
at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to
charge
a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese
electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture.
Not
that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare.
Car
batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking
about
here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will
apply
zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R =
0
when
R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into
a
battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery
with
all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses.
No
one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the
chargers
and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see
more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.

I had an old starter motor bolted to a lump of wood for checking
batteries -
would've been a more realistic test if it was bolted to an engine, but
such
as it was.

---
So what you were really testing was the lump of wood's resistance to a
transient moment arm instead of the starter motor's ability to deliver
power to a load?


Unfortunately its not a binaries - so I can't draw pictures to help you
understand!

---
Poor baby.

Your hurling insults is getting ever more weak - why not give it up before
*EVERYONE* notices you're an imbecile.

---
Because of the way I conduct myself here and because of my
contributions, over the years, I'm sure I'm not considered an
imbecile.

Neither are you, but because of your attitude and demeanor I'm sure
more than just one of us
Click to expand...
No doubt many have noticed, my "attitude and demeanor" are only directed at
you - and only when you ask for it (which is most of the time!).
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:44:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:06:00 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:59:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:28:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be
trivial
to
shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is
idiotic
at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to
charge
a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese
electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture.
Not
that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare.
Car
batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking
about
here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current will
apply
zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R =
0
when
R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current into
a
battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a battery
with
all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses.
No
one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the
chargers
and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see
more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.

I had an old starter motor bolted to a lump of wood for checking
batteries -
would've been a more realistic test if it was bolted to an engine, but
such
as it was.

---
So what you were really testing was the lump of wood's resistance to a
transient moment arm instead of the starter motor's ability to deliver
power to a load?


Unfortunately its not a binaries - so I can't draw pictures to help you
understand!

---
Poor baby.

Your hurling insults is getting ever more weak - why not give it up before
*EVERYONE* notices you're an imbecile.

---
Because of the way I conduct myself here and because of my
contributions, over the years, I'm sure I'm not considered an
imbecile.

Neither are you, but because of your attitude and demeanor I'm sure
more than just one of us

No doubt many have noticed, my "attitude and demeanor" are only directed at
you - and only when you ask for it (which is most of the time!).
Click to expand...
---
Attitude and demeanor can't be "directed" in that they're
characteristics of the person _doing_ the directing.

In your case, your attitude is that you're superior, having your feet
put to the fire by your inferiors is anathema, and your demeanor is
haughty, which causes you to direct hostility towards those who _dare_
to confront you, (that is, when they "ask for it" and you stream your
puny wrath on them) whether their criticism is valid or not.

You're just another garden-variety narcissist on the loose and, FYI,
you don't direct your hostility at just me, so you're a liar as well.

--
JF
 
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:06:00 +0100, "Ian Field"
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:59:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:28:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:54:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

I think it was deliberate to sell batteries. It would be
trivial
to
shut off the
charger if it saw, say, -0.6 volts at its terminals.

A car battery charger that won't charge a dead battery is
idiotic
at best.


Sure it is. Who wants to make sure someone doesn't try to
charge
a
battery with a shorted cell and start a fire?

What's going to catch fire? The battery? Some idiotic Chinese
electronic charger
that doesn't current limit?


A car battery with a shorted cell can boil over and rupture.
Not
that
you give a damn.

If it shorts while it's fully charged, yes, but that's very rare.
Car
batteries
are amazingly rugged. But that's not the situation we're talking
about
here.

If it's already shorted and stable that way, charging current
will
apply
zero
power to a shorted cell, so it won't "boil and rupture." I^2 * R
=
0
when
R = 0.
Dinky chargers don't have enough power to boil a battery anyhow.

Beside, the cheap electronic chargers would still pump current
into
a
battery
with one zero-volt cell. They just won't put current into a
battery
with
all
zero volt cells.



Who cares about lawsuits, or killing their customers?

Why kill them when it's more profitable to rip them off?


Sigh. They have to be idiot proof for the uneducated masses.
No
one
who builds battery chargers gives a damn about your problem.

They design them that way to sell to parts stores, who sell the
chargers
and
then sell batteries to replace the ones that "won't take a
charge."


Have you seen a doctor about your paranoia? The 'parts stores'
around here will test a car battery under load & for free. I see
more
people with Harbor Freight's chargers than the ones sold at 'parts
stores'.

I had an old starter motor bolted to a lump of wood for checking
batteries -
would've been a more realistic test if it was bolted to an engine,
but
such
as it was.

---
So what you were really testing was the lump of wood's resistance to
a
transient moment arm instead of the starter motor's ability to
deliver
power to a load?


Unfortunately its not a binaries - so I can't draw pictures to help
you
understand!

---
Poor baby.

Your hurling insults is getting ever more weak - why not give it up
before
*EVERYONE* notices you're an imbecile.

---
Because of the way I conduct myself here and because of my
contributions, over the years, I'm sure I'm not considered an
imbecile.

Neither are you, but because of your attitude and demeanor I'm sure
more than just one of us

No doubt many have noticed, my "attitude and demeanor" are only directed
at
you - and only when you ask for it (which is most of the time!).

---
Attitude and demeanor can't be "directed" in that they're
characteristics of the person _doing_ the directing.

In your case, your attitude is that you're superior,
Click to expand...
You must have one humdinger of an inferiority complex if you think that!!!
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:03:14 +0100, "Ian Field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:44:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:


No doubt many have noticed, my "attitude and demeanor" are only directed
at you - and only when you ask for it (which is most of the time!).

---
Attitude and demeanor can't be "directed" in that they're
characteristics of the person _doing_ the directing.

In your case, your attitude is that you're superior,

You must have one humdinger of an inferiority complex if you think that!!!
Click to expand...
---
Being able to recognize disease doesn't mean being susceptible to it.


--
JF
 
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:03:14 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:44:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:


No doubt many have noticed, my "attitude and demeanor" are only directed
at you - and only when you ask for it (which is most of the time!).

---
Attitude and demeanor can't be "directed" in that they're
characteristics of the person _doing_ the directing.

In your case, your attitude is that you're superior,

You must have one humdinger of an inferiority complex if you think that!!!

---
Being able to recognize disease doesn't mean being susceptible to it.
Click to expand...
If you say so Napoleon.
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:42:20 +0100, "Ian Field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:03:14 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:44:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:


No doubt many have noticed, my "attitude and demeanor" are only directed
at you - and only when you ask for it (which is most of the time!).

---
Attitude and demeanor can't be "directed" in that they're
characteristics of the person _doing_ the directing.

In your case, your attitude is that you're superior,

You must have one humdinger of an inferiority complex if you think that!!!

---
Being able to recognize disease doesn't mean being susceptible to it.

If you say so Napoleon.
Click to expand...
---
I'm not the one without an exit strategy, and you seem condemned to be
unable to extricate yourself from this Waterloo.

--
JF
 
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:42:20 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:03:14 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:44:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:


No doubt many have noticed, my "attitude and demeanor" are only
directed
at you - and only when you ask for it (which is most of the time!).

---
Attitude and demeanor can't be "directed" in that they're
characteristics of the person _doing_ the directing.

In your case, your attitude is that you're superior,

You must have one humdinger of an inferiority complex if you think
that!!!

---
Being able to recognize disease doesn't mean being susceptible to it.

If you say so Napoleon.

---
I'm not the one without an exit strategy, and you seem condemned to be
unable to extricate yourself from this Waterloo.
Click to expand...
I took pity on you because you're a sad lonely old fart who can only get
attention by picking a quarrel.
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:58:50 +0100, "Ian Field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:42:20 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:03:14 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:44:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:


No doubt many have noticed, my "attitude and demeanor" are only
directed
at you - and only when you ask for it (which is most of the time!).

---
Attitude and demeanor can't be "directed" in that they're
characteristics of the person _doing_ the directing.

In your case, your attitude is that you're superior,

You must have one humdinger of an inferiority complex if you think
that!!!

---
Being able to recognize disease doesn't mean being susceptible to it.

If you say so Napoleon.

---
I'm not the one without an exit strategy, and you seem condemned to be
unable to extricate yourself from this Waterloo.

I took pity on you because you're a sad lonely old fart who can only get
attention by picking a quarrel.
Click to expand...
---
If, by "picking a quarrel", you meant correcting technical errors made
by you and your ilk, then you're right.

But, more often than not, the corrections aren't met with refutation
with reasoned dialogue, but with rancor and attempts to dodge by
subterfuge.

Consequently, "picking a quarrel" comes from you lot more often than
not.

--
JF
 
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:58:50 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:42:20 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:03:14 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:44:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:


No doubt many have noticed, my "attitude and demeanor" are only
directed
at you - and only when you ask for it (which is most of the time!).

---
Attitude and demeanor can't be "directed" in that they're
characteristics of the person _doing_ the directing.

In your case, your attitude is that you're superior,

You must have one humdinger of an inferiority complex if you think
that!!!

---
Being able to recognize disease doesn't mean being susceptible to it.

If you say so Napoleon.

---
I'm not the one without an exit strategy, and you seem condemned to be
unable to extricate yourself from this Waterloo.

I took pity on you because you're a sad lonely old fart who can only get
attention by picking a quarrel.

---
If, by "picking a quarrel", you meant correcting technical errors made
by you and your ilk, then you're right.
Click to expand...
That's only fair after all - you make enough technical errors for the rest
of us to pick up on.

Although you're such an ill tempered cuss, most people walk on by hoping not
to attract your attention!
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:15:30 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:58:50 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:42:20 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:03:14 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:44:43 +0100, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:


No doubt many have noticed, my "attitude and demeanor" are only
directed
at you - and only when you ask for it (which is most of the time!).

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Attitude and demeanor can't be "directed" in that they're
characteristics of the person _doing_ the directing.

In your case, your attitude is that you're superior,

You must have one humdinger of an inferiority complex if you think
that!!!

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Being able to recognize disease doesn't mean being susceptible to it.

If you say so Napoleon.

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I'm not the one without an exit strategy, and you seem condemned to be
unable to extricate yourself from this Waterloo.

I took pity on you because you're a sad lonely old fart who can only get
attention by picking a quarrel.

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If, by "picking a quarrel", you meant correcting technical errors made
by you and your ilk, then you're right.

But, more often than not, the corrections aren't met with refutation
with reasoned dialogue, but with rancor and attempts to dodge by
subterfuge.
Click to expand...
Prima donnas seem to be that way >:-}

Consequently, "picking a quarrel" comes from you lot more often than
not.
Click to expand...
With Ian you're wasting your time. I've never seen anyone quite so
pompously ignorant.

...Jim Thompson
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