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On 3/8/2013 10:28 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 3/8/2013 12:23 PM, Delvin Benet wrote:
On 3/8/2013 10:15 AM, Delvin Benet wrote:
On 3/8/2013 8:44 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Delvin Benet" <DB@nbc.nýt> wrote in message
news:2631a$513a0d56$414e828e$15973@EVERESTKC.NET...
I would go to the Sandia National Laboratory and get them to use a
powerful laser to burn a hole through the fucker.
You just don't understand the self-reliant philosophy of R.C.M., do
you?
I was just making a joke. You take things too seriously.
Actually, and being serious myself here, I think a lot of people in
r.c.m. take the self-reliance thing too far. They use bad judgment in
determining whether to make or buy. It would probably be a better use
of their time in many instances to buy rather than make a part, or to
hire certain work out to specialists. There is virtue in being *able*
to do a lot of things for oneself, but not always in actually *doing*
it.
Back around 1977 or so, I had a colleague who constantly prattled on
about the virtue of working on one's car. He not only considered it a
virtue to do so, he considered it a moral failing in those who didn't.
In that era, business attire - suits - was still standard. One time
when this goof was nattering on about fixing one's own car and
expressing his disdain for those who didn't, I said, "Well, you could
always buy a couple of gallon cans of dry cleaning fluid and dryclean
your own suits, too. Do you?" He just gave me a dirty look and turned
away.
I suppose you would criticize a cowboy who tried to repair his horse? ^_^
LOL! Maybe not if he was a veterinarian.
Cowboy...reminds me of a couple of good jokes.
On 3/8/2013 11:23 AM, jim wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 11:10 AM, jim wrote:
Delvin Benet wrote:
There is virtue in being *able*
to do a lot of things for oneself, but not always in
actually *doing* it.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believe
that it is possible to become "able"
without ever actually "doing".
As usual, you didn't comprehend what was written.
Apparently you immediately concluded I
was making a reference to you.
You simply ran your mouth and as usual said something stupid and pointless.
On the internet?
I know you like that thing. So put it in the kitchen.What's the trick to drilling a hole through 1/2" thick stainless steel?
From my guardrail experience, I had bought titanium coated drill bits.
So I thought it would be easy to drill a hole in a stainless steel can
opener (for hanging on a loop outside by the BBQ cooler).
Nope!
I can't make a dent!
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12362068/img/12362068.jpg
What's the trick to drilling through stainless steel?
Little jimmie does it everywhere.On 3/8/2013 1:28 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 11:23 AM, jim wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 11:10 AM, jim wrote:
Delvin Benet wrote:
There is virtue in being *able*
to do a lot of things for oneself, but not always in
actually *doing* it.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believe
that it is possible to become "able"
without ever actually "doing".
As usual, you didn't comprehend what was written.
Apparently you immediately concluded I
was making a reference to you.
You simply ran your mouth and as usual said something stupid and
pointless.
On the internet?
George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 11:23 AM, jim wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 11:10 AM, jim wrote:
Delvin Benet wrote:
There is virtue in being *able*
to do a lot of things for oneself, but not always in
actually *doing* it.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believe
that it is possible to become "able"
without ever actually "doing".
As usual, you didn't comprehend what was written. You might be able to
do something as a matter of prior training and practice, but that
doesn't mean you should always undertake to do it in future.
Apparently you immediately concluded I
was making a reference to you.
You simply ran your mouth and as usual said something stupid and pointless.
Pointless and stupid is all you understand.
Speaking of stupid....
It was pretty stupid for you to pretend you choose
not to fix a car or drill stainless for any reason
other than you simply have no idea how to do those
things.
Maybe mapp gas with oxygen might be hot enough to punch a hole inOn Mar 8, 2:30 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
"Danny D." wrote:
What's the trick to drilling a hole through 1/2" thick stainless steel?
From my guardrail experience, I had bought titanium coated drill bits..
So I thought it would be easy to drill a hole in a stainless steel can
opener (for hanging on a loop outside by the BBQ cooler).
Nope!
I can't make a dent!
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12362068/img/12362068.jpg
What's the trick to drilling through stainless steel?
news:rec.crafts.metalworking would be a better place to ask. (Added)
I'd grind a very small flat spot with a Dremel tool (to prevent the
drill bit from skating) and anneal the end with a propane torch.
Well look, Delvin. Suffice it to say that there's alt.humor andOn 3/8/2013 10:15 AM, Delvin Benet wrote:
On 3/8/2013 8:44 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Delvin Benet" <D...@nbc.nýt> wrote in message
news:2631a$513a0d56$414e828e$15973@EVERESTKC.NET...
I would go to the Sandia National Laboratory and get them to use a
powerful laser to burn a hole through the fucker.
You just don't understand the self-reliant philosophy of R.C.M., do
you?
I was just making a joke. You take things too seriously.
Actually, and being serious myself here, I think a lot of
people in
r.c.m. take the self-reliance thing too far. They use bad judgment in
determining whether to make or buy. It would probably be a better use
of their time in many instances to buy rather than make a part,
or to
hire certain work out to specialists. There is virtue in being *able*
to do a lot of things for oneself, but not always in actually *doing* it..
Back around 1977 or so, I had a colleague who constantly prattled on
about the virtue of working on one's car. He not only considered it a
virtue to do so, he considered it a moral failing in those who
didn't.
In that era, business attire - suits - was still standard. One time
when this goof was nattering on about fixing one's own car and
expressing his disdain for those who didn't, I said, "Well, you could
always buy a couple of gallon cans of dry cleaning fluid and
dryclean
your own suits, too. Do you?" He just gave me a dirty look and turned
away.
He has it wrong, little jonny banqueer. I choose not to do very much onOn Mar 8, 12:11 pm, jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m...@mwt.net> wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 11:23 AM, jim wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 11:10 AM, jim wrote:
Delvin Benet wrote:
There is virtue in being *able*
to do a lot of things for oneself, but not always in
actually *doing* it.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believe
that it is possible to become "able"
without ever actually "doing".
As usual, you didn't comprehend what was written. You might be able to
do something as a matter of prior training and practice, but that
doesn't mean you should always undertake to do it in future.
Apparently you immediately concluded I
was making a reference to you.
You simply ran your mouth and as usual said something stupid and pointless.
Pointless and stupid is all you understand.
Speaking of stupid....
It was pretty stupid for you to pretend you choose
not to fix a car or drill stainless for any reason
other than you simply have no idea how to do those
things.
You have it right, Jim.
....you can do.George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 11:23 AM, jim wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 11:10 AM, jim wrote:
Delvin Benet wrote:
There is virtue in being *able*
to do a lot of things for oneself, but not always in
actually *doing* it.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believe
that it is possible to become "able"
without ever actually "doing".
As usual, you didn't comprehend what was written. You might be able to
do something as a matter of prior training and practice, but that
doesn't mean you should always undertake to do it in future.
Apparently you immediately concluded I
was making a reference to you.
You simply ran your mouth and as usual said something stupid and pointless.
Pointless and stupid is all
We weren't actually speaking of you.Speaking of stupid....
I have no reason to drill stainless steel. I choose not to do much onIt was pretty stupid for you to pretend you choose
not to fix a car or drill stainless for any reason
other than you simply have no idea how to do those
things.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believeI have no reason to drill stainless steel. I choose not to do much on
my car because I don't enjoy it, I can afford to pay to have it done,
and there are more valuable uses of my time.
You already said that, little jimmy, and I shot it down. I know you areGeorge Plimpton wrote:
I have no reason to drill stainless steel. I choose not to do much on
my car because I don't enjoy it, I can afford to pay to have it done,
and there are more valuable uses of my time.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believe
that it is possible to be "able"
without ever actually "doing".
Yup.On 3/8/2013 2:09 PM, jim wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
I have no reason to drill stainless steel. I choose not to do much on
my car because I don't enjoy it, I can afford to pay to have it done,
and there are more valuable uses of my time.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believe
that it is possible to be "able"
without ever actually "doing".
You already said that
Yup. You're just repeating your pointless and stupid garbage.George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 2:09 PM, jim wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
I have no reason to drill stainless steel. I choose not to do much on
my car because I don't enjoy it, I can afford to pay to have it done,
and there are more valuable uses of my time.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believe
that it is possible to be "able"
without ever actually "doing".
You already said that, little jimmy, and I shot it down.
Yup.
Consider that you, little jonny banqueer, are a fraud. You don't knowOn Mar 8, 2:32 pm, jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m...@mwt.net> wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 2:09 PM, jim wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
I have no reason to drill stainless steel. I choose not to do much on
my car because I don't enjoy it, I can afford to pay to have it done,
and there are more valuable uses of my time.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believe
that it is possible to be "able"
without ever actually "doing".
You already said that, little jimmy, and I shot it down.
Yup.
Consider that
It won't help. Suggest you review posts from George Plimpton / DelvinOn Mar 8, 1:23 pm, Delvin Benet <D...@nbc.nýt> wrote:> On 3/8/2013 10:15 AM, Delvin Benet wrote:
On 3/8/2013 8:44 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Delvin Benet" <D...@nbc.nýt> wrote in message
news:2631a$513a0d56$414e828e$15973@EVERESTKC.NET...
I would go to the Sandia National Laboratory and get them to use a
powerful laser to burn a hole through the fucker.
You just don't understand the self-reliant philosophy of R.C.M., do
you?
I was just making a joke. You take things too seriously.
> Actually, and being serious myself here, I think a lot of
people in> r.c.m. take the self-reliance thing too far. They use bad judgment in
determining whether to make or buy. It would probably be a better use
> of their time in many instances to buy rather than make a part,
or to> hire certain work out to specialists. There is virtue in being *able*
to do a lot of things for oneself, but not always in actually *doing* it.
Back around 1977 or so, I had a colleague who constantly prattled on
about the virtue of working on one's car. He not only considered it a
> virtue to do so, he considered it a moral failing in those who
didn't.>In that era, business attire - suits - was still standard. One time
when this goof was nattering on about fixing one's own car and
expressing his disdain for those who didn't, I said, "Well, you could
> always buy a couple of gallon cans of dry cleaning fluid and
dryclean
your own suits, too. Do you?" He just gave me a dirty look and turned
away.
Well look, Delvin. Suffice it to say that there's alt.humor and
rec.humor, if that'll help.
More:Sheesh... why didn't you mention that before?
Ordinary thin wall heat shrink isn't really strong enough. What heMuch like the heat shrink tubing someone
with the initials C.Y. mentioned?
Consider that George Plimpton / Delvin Benet / whatever name he postsGeorge Plimpton wrote:
On 3/8/2013 2:09 PM, jim wrote:
George Plimpton wrote:
I have no reason to drill stainless steel. I choose not to do much on
my car because I don't enjoy it, I can afford to pay to have it done,
and there are more valuable uses of my time.
It takes a certain level of ignorance to believe
that it is possible to be "able"
without ever actually "doing".
You already said that
Yup.
The difference between the men and the boys is the boys can maybe"Delvin Benet" <DB@nbc.n?t> wrote in message
news:97b4b$513a2c7e$414e828e$14484@EVERESTKC.NET...
On 3/8/2013 8:44 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
You just don't understand the self-reliant philosophy of R.C.M.,
do
you?
Actually, and being serious myself here, I think a lot of people in
r.c.m. take the self-reliance thing too far. They use bad judgment
in determining whether to make or buy. It would probably be a
better use of their time in many instances to buy rather than make a
part, or to hire certain work out to specialists. There is virtue
in being *able* to do a lot of things for oneself, but not always in
actually *doing* it.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I will try a job once to learn how
before I send it out. Then I can understand the fab shop when they
suggest changes to ease production. That mattered when we were trying
to push the state of the art in aircraft digital radios while staying
with commercial process limitations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_off-the-shelf
Too often electronic designers know nothing of creating the package
their brainchild must live in. Several times I've entered a project as
the lowly lab tech and bootstrapped myself up to systems integrator
after showing the engineers I could handle every aspect beyond their
initial schematic design, freeing them from its drudgery.
Proof-of-concept models I machined at home helped enormously.
Then I have to switch from building to buying as much as possible
because I'm swamped with designing and assembling all the circuit
board and coordinating the interfaces between each engineer's part of
the circuit.
The difference as a hobbyist is that I allocate more time and less
money so the balance shifts toward building. Plus each task I can
learn to do on the car brings me closer to truly owning it, instead of
it (and the dealer) owning me. My shop may have paid for itself by
making special tools from scrap to let me do dealer jobs like $600
timing belt replacements.
jsw
"Delvin Benet" <DB@nbc.nýt> wrote in message
news:2631a$513a0d56$414e828e$15973@EVERESTKC.NET...
I would go to the Sandia National Laboratory and get them to use a
powerful laser to burn a hole through the fucker.
You just don't understand the self-reliant philosophy of R.C.M., do
you?