Help please Sylvia......

[David Eather]

On 7/03/2011 4:32 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

"Metro"

I have a senior moment Sylvia. One of many lately. Recently you posted on
this NG a reply with a hyperlink to an image you had taken. How did you do
that please?


** Make us all one simple promise - will ya ?

Only post sharp, well illuminated images that make sense.

Use a real camera with macro focus - PLLEEASE !!



..... Phil

This is a reasonable request, stated reasonably

 

[David Eather]

On 7/03/2011 5:05 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 7/03/2011 5:32 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
"Metro"

I have a senior moment Sylvia. One of many lately. Recently you
posted on
this NG a reply with a hyperlink to an image you had taken. How did
you do
that please?


** Make us all one simple promise - will ya ?

Only post sharp, well illuminated images that make sense.

Use a real camera with macro focus - PLLEEASE !!

And if one doesn't have one, but wants to make a point?

Sylvia.

This is a reasonable response and fully explains the situation

 

[David Eather]

On 7/03/2011 5:08 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

"Metro"

I have a senior moment Sylvia. One of many lately. Recently you posted on
this NG a reply with a hyperlink to an image you had taken. How did you do
that please?


** Make us all one simple promise - will ya ?

Only post sharp, well illuminated images that make sense.

Use a real camera with macro focus - PLLEEASE !!



..... Phil

And then Phil does this for no apparent reason

 

[Phil Allison]

"David Eather" >

And then Phil does this for no apparent reason

** ????

 

[Phil Allison]

"David Eather is 100% autistic "

This is a reasonable response and fully explains the situation

** No it does not.

 

[Phil Allison]

"David Eather is completely autistic"

This is a reasonable request, stated reasonably

** So why make a fuss over it??

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 10/03/2011 12:09 PM, David Eather wrote:

On 7/03/2011 4:32 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
"Metro"

I have a senior moment Sylvia. One of many lately. Recently you
posted on
this NG a reply with a hyperlink to an image you had taken. How did
you do
that please?


** Make us all one simple promise - will ya ?

Only post sharp, well illuminated images that make sense.

Use a real camera with macro focus - PLLEEASE !!



..... Phil




This is a reasonable request, stated reasonably

Or perhaps an unreasonable request couched in reasonable terms. After
all, if a person has such a camera it is likely they'd use it anyway. So
reading between the lines, Phil's request is actually that one not post
photographs in such situations unless one has a camera with macro focus.

Mind you, I think as much as anything, the images were affected by the
difficult of holding the camera still enough, and the lack of a remote
shutter trigger.

Sylvia.

 

[David Eather]

On 10/03/2011 11:19 AM, Phil Allison wrote:

"David Eather"


And then Phil does this for no apparent reason

** ????

You made some small changes in the thread title that were basically
unwarranted

 

[David Eather]

On 10/03/2011 11:19 AM, Phil Allison wrote:

"David Eather is 100% autistic"

"Autistic" is not an insult and it does not even apply. An autistic
person will rarely involve themselves in issues between third parties.

This is a reasonable response and fully explains the situation


** No it does not.






The context:

PA:

** Make us all one simple promise - will ya ?

Only post sharp, well illuminated images that make sense.

Use a real camera with macro focus - PLLEEASE !!

SE:
And if one doesn't have one, but wants to make a point?

Sylvia.


Nobody would expect you (Phil or anyone else) to know what camera and
facilities SE has access to. So SE's response tell you that she doesn't
have a camera that will do a nice macro shot, and also tells you she
still needs to produce a photo.

That is a full explanation of why her photos will be out of focus and
less than perfect.

-------------------------------------------------

SE's response is not an attack on you. It is simply new information. New
information is something external to you. It makes no judgement or
criticism of you, your beliefs or values. It is entirely neutral. Nobody
should expect you to already know this information, and hence there is
no issue/problem/valid criticism that you didn't already know this.

The phrasing may be less than perfect and carries a hint of sarcasm, but
it is well within the "norms" of this group and it is considerably less
aggressive than many of your own responses to similar types of
questions.

 

[David Eather]

On 10/03/2011 11:20 AM, Phil Allison wrote:

"David Eather is completely autistic"

This is a reasonable request, stated reasonably

** So why make a fuss over it??

The question you asked was OK, SE response was OK. You didn't need to
start telling people to "fuck off". That's all.

 

[David Eather]

On 10/03/2011 12:59 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 10/03/2011 12:09 PM, David Eather wrote:
On 7/03/2011 4:32 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
"Metro"

I have a senior moment Sylvia. One of many lately. Recently you
posted on
this NG a reply with a hyperlink to an image you had taken. How did
you do
that please?


** Make us all one simple promise - will ya ?

Only post sharp, well illuminated images that make sense.

Use a real camera with macro focus - PLLEEASE !!



..... Phil




This is a reasonable request, stated reasonably

Or perhaps an unreasonable request couched in reasonable terms. After
all, if a person has such a camera it is likely they'd use it anyway.

I don't know. I think it's a bit of a grey area. If it was someone who
knew you as a kind, thoughtful, detail orientated type of person, I'd
agree fully. But someone who didn't know you is, I think, entitled to ask.

So

reading between the lines, Phil's request is actually that one not post
photographs in such situations unless one has a camera with macro focus.

I don't think Phil knows you so that may not follow.

Mind you, I think as much as anything, the images were affected by the
difficult of holding the camera still enough, and the lack of a remote
shutter trigger.

You can try using a tennis ball or similar as a mono-pod. It might help
(it helps me).

> Sylvia.

 

[Phil Allison]

"David Eather"

You made some small changes in the thread title that were basically
unwarranted

** It was very much warranted - by events that you are not aware of.

Arguing form a position of ignorance is a fool's logic.


..... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"David Eather is 100% autistic"

"Autistic" is not an insult and it does not even apply.

** Not up to you to decide if you have autism or not.

Others can see it sticking out a mile.

An autistic person will rarely involve themselves in issues between third
parties.

** Fraid that is exactly what the fools do a the time - being completely
unable to perceive the folly of doing so.

PA:
** Make us all one simple promise - will ya ?

Only post sharp, well illuminated images that make sense.

Use a real camera with macro focus - PLLEEASE !!

SE:
And if one doesn't have one, but wants to make a point?

Sylvia.


Nobody would expect you (Phil or anyone else) to know what camera and
facilities SE has access to.

** My post was not directed to SE but to Metro.

His reply was: " Definitely. Thanks "

SE's response is not an attack on you. It is simply new information. New
information is something external to you. It makes no judgement or
criticism of you, your beliefs or values. It is entirely neutral. Nobody
should expect you to already know this information, and hence there is no
issue/problem/valid criticism that you didn't already know this.

** If I ever needed wanted to prove that you were autistic to someone - all
I gotta do is show them this post.

It's a classic of the genre.




...... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"David Eather is completely autistic"

This is a reasonable request, stated reasonably

** So why make a fuss over it??



The question you asked

** I never asked one.

SE response was OK.

** My post was not to SE.

You didn't need to start telling people to "fuck off".

** Yes I did.



...... Phil

 

[David Eather]

On 11/03/2011 12:02 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

"David Eather"

You made some small changes in the thread title that were basically
unwarranted


** It was very much warranted - by events that you are not aware of.

Arguing form a position of ignorance is a fool's logic.


..... Phil



Ok, I get that.

I'll just suggest an alternative strategy for when someone hasn't blown
every chance and proved themselves of deliberate ill will (or an actual
danger which gets no second chance).

That strategy would be to start new encounters with a neutral or even a
positive expectation. The reason for that is that is when communications
fuck up and go sour it is much more common for a misunderstanding to be
at fault rather than malice.

Cheers

 

[Phil Allison]

"David Eather"

Ok, I get that.

I'll just suggest an alternative strategy for when someone hasn't blown
every chance and proved themselves of deliberate ill will (or an actual
danger which gets no second chance).

That strategy would be to start new encounters with a neutral or even a
positive expectation. The reason for that is that is when communications
fuck up and go sour it is much more common for a misunderstanding to be at
fault rather than malice.

** Do you know a guy called Sheldon ??



..... Phil

 

[David Eather]

On 11/03/2011 3:25 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

"David Eather"

Ok, I get that.

I'll just suggest an alternative strategy for when someone hasn't blown
every chance and proved themselves of deliberate ill will (or an actual
danger which gets no second chance).

That strategy would be to start new encounters with a neutral or even a
positive expectation. The reason for that is that is when communications
fuck up and go sour it is much more common for a misunderstanding to be at
fault rather than malice.


** Do you know a guy called Sheldon ??



..... Phil

No. He is..?

 

[Phil Allison]

"David Eather"
Phil Allison wrote:

"David Eather"

Ok, I get that.

I'll just suggest an alternative strategy for when someone hasn't blown
every chance and proved themselves of deliberate ill will (or an actual
danger which gets no second chance).

That strategy would be to start new encounters with a neutral or even a
positive expectation. The reason for that is that is when communications
fuck up and go sour it is much more common for a misunderstanding to be
at
fault rather than malice.


** Do you know a guy called Sheldon ??

No. He is..?

** Oh, Sheldon is a huge fan of Leonard Nimoy.

The actor who plays " Spock " in Star Treck.

Surely you know him.



...... Phil

 

[David Eather]

On 11/03/2011 3:45 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

"David Eather"
Phil Allison wrote:
"David Eather"

Ok, I get that.

I'll just suggest an alternative strategy for when someone hasn't blown
every chance and proved themselves of deliberate ill will (or an actual
danger which gets no second chance).

That strategy would be to start new encounters with a neutral or even a
positive expectation. The reason for that is that is when communications
fuck up and go sour it is much more common for a misunderstanding to be
at
fault rather than malice.


** Do you know a guy called Sheldon ??

No. He is..?


** Oh, Sheldon is a huge fan of Leonard Nimoy.

The actor who plays " Spock " in Star Treck.

Surely you know him.



...... Phil

Yeah I know him. I confess to being a star trek fan (any variety).
Outside ST I've only seen LN in an episode of "Becker".

Cheers..

 

[David Eather]

On 12/03/2011 12:23 PM, David Eather wrote:

On 11/03/2011 3:45 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
"David Eather"
Phil Allison wrote:
"David Eather"

Ok, I get that.

I'll just suggest an alternative strategy for when someone hasn't
blown
every chance and proved themselves of deliberate ill will (or an
actual
danger which gets no second chance).

That strategy would be to start new encounters with a neutral or
even a
positive expectation. The reason for that is that is when
communications
fuck up and go sour it is much more common for a misunderstanding
to be
at
fault rather than malice.


** Do you know a guy called Sheldon ??

No. He is..?


** Oh, Sheldon is a huge fan of Leonard Nimoy.

The actor who plays " Spock " in Star Treck.

Surely you know him.



...... Phil



Yeah I know him. I confess to being a star trek fan (any variety).
Outside ST I've only seen LN in an episode of "Becker".

Cheers..

Just googled for Sheldon. I can live with that ;-)