Health issues with DECT cordless phones and other pulsing mi

[lynx]

Michael wrote:

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
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Rod Speed wrote:

, fuckwit.

Pig!


No, Rod was right, you are a fuckwit

You think it's ok to call someone a f__kwit simply for asking questions
(politely) do you? Well that shows the value of your opinion then.

 

[Jim Pills]

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
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Rod Speed wrote:
lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

However I don't think we can ignore what evidence there is,


There isnt a shred of evidence of any health effects what so ever.

It was thought that smoking was harmless, and asbestos. But we now know
better. And there's been studies done to show the adverse effects from
living too close to power lines. But the bottom line... wtf would you know
anyway. You're just a know-it-all nobody who get his rocks off by being a
total arsehole on usenet.

Regardless of the validity of your posts, I'd have to agree with you there -
Rod Speed is a rude piece of crap.

 

[Jim Pills]

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Michael wrote:

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
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Rod Speed wrote:

, fuckwit.

Pig!


No, Rod was right, you are a fuckwit



You think it's ok to call someone a f__kwit simply for asking questions
(politely) do you? Well that shows the value of your opinion then.

I certainly don't think it's right. Rod and Michael have displayed a
disturbing lack of morals here. Why on earth they think it's ok to abuse
someone just because they disagree beats me. I would seriously doubt they'd
have the guts to do it to your face though (although I've no doubt they'll
claim they do, hehehe...)

 

[Albinus]

lynx wrote:

It was thought that smoking was harmless, and asbestos. But we now know
better. And there's been studies done to show the adverse effects from
living too close to power lines. But the bottom line... wtf would you
know anyway. You're just a know-it-all nobody who get his rocks off by
being a total arsehole on usenet.

And radio communications have been around for over one hundred years yet
nobody has been killed by any radio frequency (at non-ionizing
wavelengths). Under the ionizing threshold the only effect is heat, and
2.4GHz is the perfect frequency for resonation of water molecules, which
is why microwave ovens use this frequency to excite water molecules.
Hence why sticking thousands of watts into you isn't a bright idea as
you'll overheat. Ionizing radiation on the other hand, kills plenty of
people - UV exposure anyone? In general it seems to be the same people
who jump up and down about cellular devices causing cancer are the same
ones frying on the beach most weekends.

I've spoken to a radiologist on this issue and he's given up trying to
explain to the arrogant that there's no risk at low frequencies. And by
arrogant he means the ignorant that can't be convinced otherwise.

 

[lynx]

Jim Pills wrote:

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Rod Speed wrote:

lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote


However I don't think we can ignore what evidence there is,

There isnt a shred of evidence of any health effects what so ever.


It was thought that smoking was harmless, and asbestos. But we now know
better. And there's been studies done to show the adverse effects from
living too close to power lines. But the bottom line... wtf would you know
anyway. You're just a know-it-all nobody who get his rocks off by being a
total arsehole on usenet.


Regardless of the validity of your posts,

I'm simply seeking informed opinion on the matter.

I'd have to agree with you there -

As would any sane individual. Usenet affords him the ability
(unfortunately) to impose his belligerence with impunity.

Rod Speed is a rude piece of crap.

--

rgds,

Pete
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[PeterD]

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:20:26 +1100, lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote:

Thanks very much for that. I'll look into it. Perhaps it's a case of
some ppl being more sensitive/affected than others?

No, it's likely people believing things that are not based on any
evidence what so ever.

And if there are
reports of adverse effects with the use of these DECT phones, then
surely they can't be ignored, even if they're not scientifically based.

Why? The other day after using my Bic pen I got a rash on my hand...
Therefore all Bic pens are dangerous? Or am I just sensitive? Or, just
maybe, I then went into the woods and got poison ivy?

IF something is not 'scientifically based' as you put it, it is just
simply a wish or thought.

When I rang Uniden, they said that that the phones (including handsets)
constantly emit full power even on standby, and it was put to me that if
there are several in the house, then the family is virtually living in a
'sea' of (low) radiation!

Man has been living in a sea of (low) radiation since he first evolved
as life on earth. Nothing has changed in that respect, and in fact
that sea of radiation may well be what is responsible for us!

What prompted the original posting, was that I
had purchased one, and when I turned it on, I immediately noticed some
of the effects mentioned in the article quoted-

*Immediately*? That blows your case then... Such effects would take
time to become apparent. Realize that people working in communications
and electroncis are exposed to these fields in *much* higher doses
without suffering any side effects.

although I had not seen
it then- so I went googling about cordless phones. Since then I have
been switching the phones on and off to see if there is a correlation
between the effects that I feel and the phones being in use, and there
has been.

How have you been switching them off? Most don't really turn off but
remain in communication with the base even when 'off'. This is just
like turning off a 'modern' TV: it is still on, it just isn't
displaying anything on the screen.

You'd have to remove the battery to actually turn them off!

When switching it off, the headache effect and light
headedness diminishes almost immediately.

Again, 'immediately ' tends to tell me that there's somthing else
involved here.

(There are other effects that
I'm reluctant to mention for fear of being considered crazy!)

Too late. Go ahead and lisit them.

I'm also
very sensitive to mobile phones, so i feel that I simply can't use this
phone at all.

eBay it then...

Move to the country. Have the power disconnected from your house. By
candle light, read the classic science fiction story "Press Enter".

What you are complaining about is a sensitivity to a specific spectrum
of frequencies (not all frequencies, since you are not affected by
power line EMF, broadcast radiation, EMF from television receivers and
computer monitors, etc.)

Ask you self: what is the method? How do these frequencies cause me a
problem?

 

[PeterD]

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:38:34 +1100, lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

However I don't think we can ignore what evidence there is,


There isnt a shred of evidence of any health effects what so ever.


It was thought that smoking was harmless, and asbestos. But we now know
better. And there's been studies done to show the adverse effects from
living too close to power lines. But the bottom line... wtf would you
know anyway. You're just a know-it-all nobody who get his rocks off by
being a total arsehole on usenet.

Analysis:

Rod: a reasonable reply.

Lynx: didn't like it so starts calling Rod names...

Humm, wonder who the nut is? <g>

 

[Jim Pills]

"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:38:34 +1100, lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

However I don't think we can ignore what evidence there is,


There isnt a shred of evidence of any health effects what so ever.


It was thought that smoking was harmless, and asbestos. But we now know
better. And there's been studies done to show the adverse effects from
living too close to power lines. But the bottom line... wtf would you
know anyway. You're just a know-it-all nobody who get his rocks off by
being a total arsehole on usenet.

Analysis:

Rod: a reasonable reply.

Lynx: didn't like it so starts calling Rod names...

Humm, wonder who the nut is? <g

Analysis:

PeterD has responded to this post before bothering to read the whole thread.

PeterD ought to try to keep up? <g>

 

[PeterD]

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:57:54 -0000, "Jim Pills" <eat@me.com> wrote:

"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:38:34 +1100, lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

However I don't think we can ignore what evidence there is,


There isnt a shred of evidence of any health effects what so ever.


It was thought that smoking was harmless, and asbestos. But we now know
better. And there's been studies done to show the adverse effects from
living too close to power lines. But the bottom line... wtf would you
know anyway. You're just a know-it-all nobody who get his rocks off by
being a total arsehole on usenet.

Analysis:

Rod: a reasonable reply.

Lynx: didn't like it so starts calling Rod names...

Humm, wonder who the nut is? <g

Analysis:

PeterD has responded to this post before bothering to read the whole thread.

PeterD ought to try to keep up? <g

I look at the post, I respond to the post. If the poster clips it so
that it makes no sense, or so that it makes the poster look bad,
that's his problem.

Regardless the language used in this thread has been immature... <bg>

 

[Jim Pills]

"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:57:54 -0000, "Jim Pills" <eat@me.com> wrote:
"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:38:34 +1100, lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

However I don't think we can ignore what evidence there is,


There isnt a shred of evidence of any health effects what so ever.


It was thought that smoking was harmless, and asbestos. But we now know
better. And there's been studies done to show the adverse effects from
living too close to power lines. But the bottom line... wtf would you
know anyway. You're just a know-it-all nobody who get his rocks off by
being a total arsehole on usenet.

Analysis:

Rod: a reasonable reply.

Lynx: didn't like it so starts calling Rod names...

Humm, wonder who the nut is? <g

Analysis:

PeterD has responded to this post before bothering to read the whole
thread.

PeterD ought to try to keep up? <g


I look at the post, I respond to the post. If the poster clips it so
that it makes no sense, or so that it makes the poster look bad,
that's his problem.

So you wade into an argument half-way through and take sides without having
a clue what's going on.

Sounds like you need a newsreader that shows all of the branches. If you'd
had that, you'd have known that...

Regardless the language used in this thread has been immature... <bg

....it was Rod that started the bad language. Regardless of the opinions of
the OP, Rod had no reason to be so immature - so I guess he just is
immature.

 

[Rod Speed]

lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote
lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

However I don't think we can ignore what evidence there is,

There isnt a shred of evidence of any health effects what so ever.

It was thought that smoking was harmless,

Pig ignorant lie. The health downsides were known when it was first used.

and asbestos. But we now know better.

Pity that those have been established with rigorous science.

Hasnt happened with mobile phones and DECT phones in spades.

And there's been studies done to show the adverse
effects from living too close to power lines.

Pig ignorant lie.

Pity about the MUCH higher 'radiation' levels from electric blankets.

<reams of your rabid insane ravings flushed where they belong>

 

[Rod Speed]

lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

Michael wrote
lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

Stowe School, the Buckinghamshire public school, also removed part of its wireless network
after a teacher became ill.

Well whoopy fucking do. Plenty of teachers did that before
DECT phones and mobile phones showed up, fuckwit.

, fuckwit.

Pig!

No, Rod was right, you are a fuckwit

You think it's ok to call someone a f__kwit simply for asking questions (politely) do you?

Pity I never did that. You cited what that school
did as if that proved a damned thing, fuckwit.

Well that shows the value of your opinion then.

Yours in spades, fuckwit fruit loop.

 

[Rod Speed]

Jim Pills <eat@me.com> wrote:

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Michael wrote:

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
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Rod Speed wrote:

, fuckwit.

Pig!


No, Rod was right, you are a fuckwit

You think it's ok to call someone a f__kwit simply for asking questions (politely) do you? Well
that shows the value of your opinion then.

I certainly don't think it's right.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

What you might or might not claim to 'think' in spades.

Rod and Michael have displayed a disturbing lack of morals here.

You wouldnt know what morals were if they bit you on your lard arse.

Why on earth they think it's ok to abuse someone just because they disagree beats me.

Pity we didnt do that. We JUST pointed out that only a fuckwit would
'think' that what that school did proves a damned thing about DECT phones.

I would seriously doubt they'd have the guts to do it to your face though

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

What you might or might not claim to serious doubt in spades.

(although I've no doubt they'll claim they do, hehehe...)

Wot stunningly impeccible morals you flaunt.

 

[Rod Speed]

Jim Pills <eat@me.com> wrote:

"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:57:54 -0000, "Jim Pills" <eat@me.com> wrote:
"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:38:34 +1100, lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

However I don't think we can ignore what evidence there is,


There isnt a shred of evidence of any health effects what so
ever.

It was thought that smoking was harmless, and asbestos. But we
now know better. And there's been studies done to show the
adverse effects from living too close to power lines. But the
bottom line... wtf would you know anyway. You're just a
know-it-all nobody who get his rocks off by being a total
arsehole on usenet.

Analysis:

Rod: a reasonable reply.

Lynx: didn't like it so starts calling Rod names...

Humm, wonder who the nut is? <g

Analysis:

PeterD has responded to this post before bothering to read the whole
thread.

PeterD ought to try to keep up? <g


I look at the post, I respond to the post. If the poster clips it so
that it makes no sense, or so that it makes the poster look bad,
that's his problem.

So you wade into an argument half-way through and take sides without
having a clue what's going on.

Sounds like you need a newsreader that shows all of the branches. If
you'd had that, you'd have known that...

Regardless the language used in this thread has been immature... <bg

...it was Rod that started the bad language. Regardless of the
opinions of the OP, Rod had no reason to be so immature

You get no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.

- so I guess he just is immature.

You get to like the language used or lump it, fuckwit.

 

[Jim Pills]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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...it was Rod that started the bad language. Regardless of the
opinions of the OP, Rod had no reason to be so immature

You get no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.

On the contrary, old chum, this is Usenet, a very public place, and I get to
say anything I like, anything at all. You are a foul-mouthed, immature waste
of space. Enjoy... ;o)

- so I guess he just is immature.

<snip> more rudeness from the Rod child.

THIS IS FUN!!!!

 

[Rod Speed]

Jim Pills <eat@me.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

...it was Rod that started the bad language. Regardless of the
opinions of the OP, Rod had no reason to be so immature

You get no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.

On the contrary, old chum, this is Usenet, a very public place, and I get to say anything I like,
anything at all.

So stupid that it cant even work out what 'get no say' means.

<reams of your puerile shit flushed where it belongs>

 

[Jim Pills]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Jim Pills <eat@me.com> wrote:
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Michael wrote:

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
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Rod Speed wrote:

, fuckwit.

Pig!


No, Rod was right, you are a fuckwit

You think it's ok to call someone a f__kwit simply for asking questions
(politely) do you? Well that shows the value of your opinion then.

I certainly don't think it's right.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly
irrelevant.

Only to self-made ignorant biggots like yourself, mister Speed.

What you might or might not claim to 'think' in spades.

That's not a sentence, brainiac.

Rod and Michael have displayed a disturbing lack of morals here.

You wouldnt know what morals were if they bit you on your lard arse.

Hmmm... how to contradict yourself in one idiotic sentence. Nice! ;o)

Why on earth they think it's ok to abuse someone just because they
disagree beats me.

Pity we didnt do that.

But you did, see. And your beloved "science" would prove that, hehehe...

We JUST pointed out that only a fuckwit would

'think' that what that school did proves a damned thing about DECT phones.

I would seriously doubt they'd have the guts to do it to your face though

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly
irrelevant.

Mr. Speed's yellow stripe is positively glowing!

What you might or might not claim to serious doubt in spades.

Another non-sentence.

(although I've no doubt they'll claim they do, hehehe...)

Wot stunningly impeccible morals you flaunt.

Where?

I'm not going to converse with you any further, Mr. Speed, because you're
just too damned ignorant and rude. Enjoy the rest of your miserable life.

Ker... PLONK!

 

[Jim Pills]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
Michael wrote
lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

Stowe School, the Buckinghamshire public school, also removed part of
its wireless network after a teacher became ill.

Well whoopy fucking do. Plenty of teachers did that before
DECT phones and mobile phones showed up, fuckwit.

, fuckwit.

Pig!

No, Rod was right, you are a fuckwit

You think it's ok to call someone a f__kwit simply for asking questions
(politely) do you?

Pity I never did that. You cited what that school
did as if that proved a damned thing, fuckwit.

Well that shows the value of your opinion then.

Yours in spades, fuckwit fruit loop.

Tut, tut, tut, more rude words. You know, you really ought to read a book,
Mr. Speed. ;o)

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
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Rod Speed wrote:

lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote

However I don't think we can ignore what evidence there is,


There isnt a shred of evidence of any health effects what so ever.

It was thought that smoking was harmless, and asbestos.

**Nope. Tobacco companies lied. Asbestos has been KNOWN to be harmful for at
least 100 years.

But we now know

better.

**Yep. The statistics show that smokers die earlier and by a range of
interesting diseases. Asbestos has been a known carcinogen for at leat 100
years. Despite several trials, there is no proven link between DECT 'phones
and any harmful effects.

And there's been studies done to show the adverse effects from

living too close to power lines.

**No, there hasn't. Studies are amazingly difficult to get right. The
results of a recent study, found that a large number of people who used
mouthwash also suffered from mouth cancer. Therefore, using mouthwash
increases your chances of contracting mouth cancer, right? Wrong. The
majority of people who use mouthwash, also smoke.

Trials need to be CAREFULLY performed. Anecdotes don't count.

But the bottom line... wtf would you

know anyway. You're just a know-it-all nobody who get his rocks off by
being a total arsehole on usenet.

**Standard response for the loser of an argument - insult your opponent. You
lose. Next time, back up your opinions with facts.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



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[imorf]

PeterD wrote:

Man has been living in a sea of (low) radiation since he first evolved
as life on earth. Nothing has changed in that respect, and in fact
that sea of radiation may well be what is responsible for us!

you see no difference between the natural background radiation & UV
radiation that we have evolved with, and modern man made weak but close
range EM radiation?