having a hard time finding these components

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:
TheExperimenter wrote:

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Unfortunately, the exact schematic does not appear online and is
copyrighted. However, it appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine
September 1986, p. 42 stun gun. A similar one adapted from the article
is here, but does not use the same components:

http://www.learningelectronics.net/VA3AVR/circ/hv/stungun/stungun.html

I built the gun from the kit in 1994, but my wife used it a month ago
and burned it out while scaring off a would be attacker.



** Unfortunately that is an ILLEGAL weapon in many coutries - including Australia. So I'm out.

FYI:

This post fits perfectly my description of the vast majority of usenet inquiries about home projects:

Its either stupid, dangerous or illegal - sometimes all three.

too late.. U still look retarded for assuming it had something to do with an aging hippie...
 
TheExperimenter wrote:

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Unfortunately, the exact schematic does not appear online and is
copyrighted. However, it appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine
September 1986, p. 42 stun gun. A similar one adapted from the article
is here, but does not use the same components:

http://www.learningelectronics.net/VA3AVR/circ/hv/stungun/stungun.html

I built the gun from the kit in 1994, but my wife used it a month ago
and burned it out while scaring off a would be attacker.

** Unfortunately that is an ILLEGAL weapon in many coutries - including Australia. So I'm out.

FYI:

This post fits perfectly my description of the vast majority of usenet inquiries about home projects:

Its either stupid, dangerous or illegal - sometimes all three.


...... Phil
 
TheExperimenter <theexp8712@noaol.net> wrote:
On 10/26/19 4:49 PM, Phil Allison wrote:


** Unfortunately that is an ILLEGAL weapon in many coutries -
including Australia.? So I'm out.

Sorry you feel that way, but I understand.? Where I live in the US, they
are not illegal.

FYI:

This post fits perfectly my description of the vast majority of usenet
inquiries about home projects:

Its either stupid, dangerous or illegal - sometimes all three.


By the way, it was for possible responses like yours which is why I was
hesitant to post further information, but Winfield Hill suggested it, so
I reluctantly decided to do so. If anyone else has to bow out due to
the possible legal issues, I'll fully understand. That being said, I do
see plenty of electronic devices far more dangerous than this that
people are working on all the time (hobby x-ray machines, for example),
yet I see a lot of information freely offered to such ventures.

scene whore drama queen phyllis has a resting bitch face made for yer killfile...
 
TheExperimenter Asshole puked:

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Phil Allison wrote:



** Beware, this is an international NG and many folk like me are FULLY identified while YOU are not with your fake name.

No fucking way am I gonna be involved in advising on anything illegal or dangerous.

Trying to trick people into helping you is the act of a total asshole.

FSS go but another if you must, they are not real expensive.



As I said, don't participate then, if illegal in your country.

** As I posted - you are an asshole for trying to trick people.

Plus you are a nasty fuckwit for posting such and idiotic question here.

Go straight to hell.



...... Phil
 
On 10/26/19 5:56 PM, Sjouke Burry wrote:

I have never seen somebody touting an x-ray machine around
to paralyse people.

No, but some of the alleged powers I've seen hobbyists claim they are
using don't paralyze, they could sicken (radiation sickness) in short
order. I would say that's far more serious than temporarily paralysis.



If I ever see you waving an electrocuting device at me, I reserve
the right to use lethal force on you........

Whatever.....
 
On 10/26/19 5:43 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

scene whore drama queen phyllis has a resting bitch face made for yer killfile...

It does seem a bit like he's making a mountain out of a mole hill, but
it is what it is. I won't argue nor address him again unless he
participates accordingly.
 
Nomen Nescio wrote:

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** Unfortunately that is an ILLEGAL weapon in many coutries - including Australia. So I'm out.

FYI:

This post fits perfectly my description of the vast majority of usenet inquiries about home projects:

Its either stupid, dangerous or illegal - sometimes all three.


too late.. U still look retarded for assuming it had something to do with an aging hippie...

----------------------------------------------------

** My comment was about " Rick C" - not the OP you dope.



....... Phil
 
On 10/26/19 5:58 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
** Beware, this is an international NG and many folk like me are FULLY identified while YOU are not with your fake name.

No fucking way am I gonna be involved in advising on anything illegal or dangerous.

Trying to trick people into helping you is the act of a total asshole.

FSS go but another if you must, they are not real expensive.



.... Phil

As I said, don't participate then, if illegal in your country. Period.
I won't argue and won't respond directly to you again unless you answer
my original question. Thank you and have a blessed day!
 
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Phil Allison wrote:




** As I posted - you are an asshole for trying to trick people.

I will respond one final time to this gibberish. Trying to "trick"
them, how? I simply posted an inquiry about possible substitutes for
aged/ obsolete components. It was one of the responders suggesting
giving more information to which I politely complied. For some reason,
it was then that you decided to attack for no apparent reason other than
it being illegal in your country. If it's illegal there, then DON'T
reply. How difficult is that?

Plus you are a nasty fuckwit for posting such and idiotic question here.

Go straight to hell.

Whatever floats your sinking boat (want me to throw you a life
raft?).... Farewell, and have a blessed day!


..... Phil
 
On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 5:56:13 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
Rick Cunthead pooped:

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See! I was right.



** Like hell you were.


FYI to all,

This idiot troll sounds like one of them aging, hippie morons.

Flowers in his hair, illegal drugs in his blood stream and a brain devoid of all insight.

Expects us to set up a kindergarten here, to suit him.

But does nothing to help the OP.

Bit of a worry, that.




.... Phil

I'd venture to say he came across the circuit in a 1950s version of popular electronics and thought, 'Cool, do need one of these'..
But I can't imagine what that could be.....
 
On 26.10.19 23:34, TheExperimenter wrote:
On 10/26/19 4:49 PM, Phil Allison wrote:


** Unfortunately that is an ILLEGAL weapon in many coutries -
including Australia. So I'm out.

Sorry you feel that way, but I understand. Where I live in the US, they
are not illegal.

FYI:

This post fits perfectly my description of the vast majority of usenet
inquiries about home projects:

Its either stupid, dangerous or illegal - sometimes all three.


By the way, it was for possible responses like yours which is why I was
hesitant to post further information, but Winfield Hill suggested it, so
I reluctantly decided to do so. If anyone else has to bow out due to
the possible legal issues, I'll fully understand. That being said, I do
see plenty of electronic devices far more dangerous than this that
people are working on all the time (hobby x-ray machines, for example),
yet I see a lot of information freely offered to such ventures.
I have never seen somebody touting an x-ray machine around
to paralyse people.

If I ever see you waving an electrocuting device at me, I reserve
the right to use lethal force on you........
 
TheExperimenter wrote:

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Phil Allison wrote:



** Unfortunately that is an ILLEGAL weapon in many coutries - including Australia. So I'm out.


Sorry you feel that way, but I understand. Where I live in the US, they
are not illegal.

** Must be one of those sates that allow citizens to carry a concealed hand gun too.

Just like the old west - lets have a real fun shoot out.
-------------------------------------------------------


FYI:

This post fits perfectly my description of the vast majority of usenet inquiries about home projects:

Its either stupid, dangerous or illegal - sometimes all three.


Not this I don't quite concur,

** You have a tenuous grip on reality - pal.


but you are welcome to your opinion. I
am not here to argue, just to procure the necessary replacement parts
and/or their equivalents.

** Beware, this is an international NG and many folk like me are FULLY identified while YOU are not with your fake name.

No fucking way am I gonna be involved in advising on anything illegal or dangerous.

Trying to trick people into helping you is the act of a total asshole.

FSS go but another if you must, they are not real expensive.



..... Phil
 
On 10/26/19 8:51 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:

Radio Electronics is available online, along with other hobby electronics magazines:

https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Radio-Electronics/80s/1986/Radio-Electronics-1986-09.pdf

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. I built mine from the article and
company in that issue, which I still have although quite yellowed now.
There were a lot of great projects published over the years for just
about every area of interest in electronics.
 
On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 3:10:12 PM UTC-4, TheExperimenter wrote:
On 10/26/19 2:53 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
TheExperimenter wrote...

Briefly checking over your suggestions and plugging them in,
they seem like possible good options, but I lack the ability ...

It would be a good idea if you were to post a schematic,
then others could evaluate the viability of substitutes.

Unfortunately, the exact schematic does not appear online and is
copyrighted. However, it appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine
September 1986, p. 42 stun gun. A similar one adapted from the article
is here, but does not use the same components:

http://www.learningelectronics.net/VA3AVR/circ/hv/stungun/stungun.html

I built the gun from the kit in 1994, but my wife used it a month ago
and burned it out while scaring off a would be attacker.

I originally contacted the firm that made it, but have not heard back
after several weeks, so I went parts looking myself. I don't trust the
ones with the puny "400 KV" modules that seem to be front and center
now. This one really worked and was tested scientifically at the time
which is why I'd like to get the replacement components.

Radio Electronics is available online, along with other hobby electronics magazines:

<https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Radio-Electronics/80s/1986/Radio-Electronics-1986-09.pdf>
 
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 14:08:02 UTC, Winfield Hill wrote:
TheExperimenter wrote...

By the way, it was for possible responses like yours
which is why I was hesitant to post further information,
but Winfield Hill suggested it, so I reluctantly decided
to do so. If anyone else has to bow out due to the
possible legal issues, I'll fully understand.

I didn't know the topic was a stun gun. I bowed out
when I saw the picture of a woman with the device in
her hand and the guy with the big knife in her face.
The thought of her having to make contact, or near
contact to be effective, in order to fend off a big
knife, was what did it for me. She's going to get
hurt, and probably badly. If having a stun gun at
hand helps make a person bold enough to engage in a
close-quarters knife fight, that's not good. I'm out.

In that scenario it's presumably meant to be the knife holder that started it. You got 3 options:
Run away
Fight back
Be a victim
A weapon gives you option 2. Of course it's not always a good option. And sometimes it's the only realistic option.
 
TheExperimenter wrote...
By the way, it was for possible responses like yours
which is why I was hesitant to post further information,
but Winfield Hill suggested it, so I reluctantly decided
to do so. If anyone else has to bow out due to the
possible legal issues, I'll fully understand.

I didn't know the topic was a stun gun. I bowed out
when I saw the picture of a woman with the device in
her hand and the guy with the big knife in her face.
The thought of her having to make contact, or near
contact to be effective, in order to fend off a big
knife, was what did it for me. She's going to get
hurt, and probably badly. If having a stun gun at
hand helps make a person bold enough to engage in a
close-quarters knife fight, that's not good. I'm out.


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 07:07:49 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:

I didn't know the topic was a stun gun. I bowed out when I saw the
picture of a woman with the device in her hand and the guy with the big
knife in her face. The thought of her having to make contact, or near
contact to be effective, in order to fend off a big knife, was what did
it for me. She's going to get hurt, and probably badly. If having a
stun gun at hand helps make a person bold enough to engage in a
close-quarters knife fight, that's not good. I'm out.

I think you're implying *way* too much into a posed magazine cover shot,
Win!
That aside, these weapons are grouped alongside semi-automatic full bore
pistols under the firearms regulations of many European countries
including the UK, so although you and I made similar things as kids back
in the good old days 50 years ago and thought nothing of it, they're now
likely to attract a mandatory minimum 5 year prison sentence for mere
possession (in Yurp anyway). For that reason alone, I don't assist anyone
in any way asking for plans to make such a device.



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On 10/27/19 10:29 AM, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 14:08:02 UTC, Winfield Hill wrote:
TheExperimenter wrote...

By the way, it was for possible responses like yours
which is why I was hesitant to post further information,
but Winfield Hill suggested it, so I reluctantly decided
to do so. If anyone else has to bow out due to the
possible legal issues, I'll fully understand.

I didn't know the topic was a stun gun. I bowed out
when I saw the picture of a woman with the device in
her hand and the guy with the big knife in her face.
The thought of her having to make contact, or near
contact to be effective, in order to fend off a big
knife, was what did it for me. She's going to get
hurt, and probably badly. If having a stun gun at
hand helps make a person bold enough to engage in a
close-quarters knife fight, that's not good. I'm out.

In that scenario it's presumably meant to be the knife holder that started it. You got 3 options:
Run away
Fight back
Be a victim
A weapon gives you option 2. Of course it's not always a good option. And sometimes it's the only realistic option.

Handheld stun guns are next to useless as defensive weapons in the hands
of anyone but trained LEO. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8KU9IoBD58>

pepper spray is cheap and much more effective defensive wepaon in the
non-lethal category.

I'd assume anyone asking how to build them has criminal intent until
proven otherwise.
 
On 10/26/19 9:29 PM, TheExperimenter wrote:
On 10/26/19 8:51 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:


Radio Electronics is available online, along with other hobby
electronics magazines:

https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Radio-Electronics/80s/1986/Radio-Electronics-1986-09.pdf




Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.  I built mine from the article and
company in that issue, which I still have although quite yellowed now.
There were a lot of great projects published over the years for just
about every area of interest in electronics.

"So that you may understand the danger
inherent in the stun gun, let's discuss the
physiological effects first. When a high
voltage is discharged on the surface of the
skin, the current produced travels through
the nervous system by exciting single
cells and the myelin sheaths that enclose
them. When that current reaches a synapse connected to a muscle. it
causes the muscle to contract violently and possibly
to go into spasms."

Holy shit, what is this publication, Practical Electronics for Dr.
Mengele-magazine?
 
On 10/27/19 10:29 AM, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 14:08:02 UTC, Winfield Hill wrote:
TheExperimenter wrote...

By the way, it was for possible responses like yours
which is why I was hesitant to post further information,
but Winfield Hill suggested it, so I reluctantly decided
to do so. If anyone else has to bow out due to the
possible legal issues, I'll fully understand.

I didn't know the topic was a stun gun. I bowed out
when I saw the picture of a woman with the device in
her hand and the guy with the big knife in her face.
The thought of her having to make contact, or near
contact to be effective, in order to fend off a big
knife, was what did it for me. She's going to get
hurt, and probably badly. If having a stun gun at
hand helps make a person bold enough to engage in a
close-quarters knife fight, that's not good. I'm out.

In that scenario it's presumably meant to be the knife holder that started it. You got 3 options:
Run away
Fight back
Be a victim
A weapon gives you option 2. Of course it's not always a good option. And sometimes it's the only realistic option.

The most important option is the unlisted "option zero" but the one real
world self-defense classes that are worth anything focus on a lot: don't
put yourself in situations where certain things are liable to happen.

There are many situations you can get into when you're alone that there
are no real good answers for no matter what you're armed with.
 

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