Harvey Norman Cable Scam

[Phil Allison]

"Alan Rutlidge


Unlike you Phil, I have nothing to hide and I am quite prepared to tell you
to your face just what I think of you.


** What the Rutmaniac "thinks" on any subject only proves how fucked in
the head he is.

No wonder Telstra pissed him off.





.............. Phil

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:3ai651F6cnm4gU1@individual.net...

"Alan Rutlidge


Unlike you Phil, I have nothing to hide and I am quite prepared to tell
you
to your face just what I think of you.


** What the Rutmaniac "thinks" on any subject only proves how fucked in
the head he is.

No wonder Telstra pissed him off.





............. Phil

Phil has still failed once again to provide proof of his allegations.
Where's your proof I didn't get rid of my CDP-101 for an other CD player?
You don't have any do you? Time to public apologise to me Phil or present
your evidence.

Stop trying to avoid the subject. It is clear that you are a bigger coward
than most would give you credit for.

I still challenge you Philip Martin "The Coward" Allison of Prospect Road,
Summer Hill, NSW to repeat what you write about me here (from behind the
anonymous protection of your keyboard) to me directly face to face. I want
to see what a coward like you really looks like.

Bet you aren't likely to show your pig ugly face you yellow bellied coward
of a Net Stalker. You are too f%#king gutless to dare to say it to my face.
Now either put up your evidence of shut up.

 

[Phil Allison]

Some desperate, fat, ugly, Poof from Perth:

Unlike you Phil, I have nothing to hide and I am quite prepared to tell
you to your face just what I think of you.


** What the Rutmaniac "thinks" on any subject only proves how fucked
in
the head he is.

No wonder Telstra pissed him off.

Where's your proof I didn't get rid of my CDP-101 for an other CD player?

** The pathetic dude is totally mad.

I still challenge you Philip Martin "The Coward" Allison of Prospect Road,
Summer Hill, NSW to repeat what you write about me here (from behind the
anonymous protection of your keyboard) to me directly face to face.

** The pathetic dude is totally mad.

Bet you aren't likely to show your pig ugly face you yellow bellied coward
of a Net Stalker.

** The real net stalker is one Alan Kendall Rutlidge of Ruth Street
Northbridge, WA

48 years old and sooooo pathetic.





................ Phil

 

[paul packer]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:58:54 +0800, "Alan Rutlidge"
<rutlidge@<NO_SPAM>iinet.net.au> wrote:

Stop trying to avoid the subject. It is clear that you are a bigger coward
than most would give you credit for.

Oh I don't know, Alan. I always gave him quite a lot of credit for
that.

 

[Steven]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:3aahf3F62qgbjU1@individual.net...

"Poxy"
A friend was at Harvey Normans the other day, purchasing a plasma screen
TV.
After they'd negotiated the price - about $4,400 for an LG highish-res
panel, the sales guy then suggested they purchase a special component
cable
for hooking up their DVD player to the screen to achieve the best
quality
from their new screen.

For demonstration, he switched the panel to split-screen mode showing
the
same DVD title playing on each half, but connected by different cables.
He
was attempting to imply that the marked difference between the two
images
was due to the use of a "Monster" brand component video cable on one
input.
My friend gave me a call at the time and explained what the sales guy
was
trying to say, and commented that the Monster side had better detail in
the
blacks and looked better than the other half. I told her that it sounded
like a scam and hold off for the moment - she could always purchase it
at
a
later date, as he wasn't offering any great deal on the cable.

Subsequently, I worked out that they had hooked up the component output
of
the DVD player to one side, and the composite output to the other, and
was
then trying to claim that the improved picture was purely due to the
Monster
brand cable.

This strikes me as a blatantly dishonest and misleading demonstration -
the
salesman never stated that the difference in quality was largely (if not
entirely) due to the alternative signal format, rather he misrepresented
the
comparison with the goal of selling an obscenely overpriced cable of
dubious
benefit over a base-quality component cable.

Why? The 1m Monster cable costs $270.

Methinks a call to the ACCC is in order.



** Fake demonstrations have been standard practice for sales charlatans
for
centuries - door to door vacuum cleaner salesmen had them perfected over
50 years ago. Almost any hi-fi salesman is expert at the art of creating
biased and false demonstrations.

The resident charlatan on aus.hi-fi is Trevor Wilson - but he is a rank
amateur compared to the reptiles in shiny suits that lurk in the posh,
up-market stores.

Monster is just about the smoothest con ever - a blatant, right in your
face scam.

If a shop even sells Monster Cables - I suggest you simply walk out.

Maybe tell the manager why first - if you have the nerve to.




.......... Phil

Thank you for finally providing a fairly close to realistic answer--finally

The 300-post farce you were responsible for creating 21- 25 March was of the
quality for nomination for some award.

 

[Steven]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:3abuqmF6b9dk3U1@individual.net...

abc@123.com> = Criminal, libelling troll



** The above anonymous, demented usenet menace needs to be dealt with -
big
time.





........... Phil

Is his name Phil? I had such hope for you too!

 

[Steven]

He's better at it than I could do it???

"Alan" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4242a5ad$0$917$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...

TOP POST and SHOUT !!! (sorry, but I do feel pretty strong about this)

CRAP!!!

Phil does not put up with D/Heads or stupid crap.
and he tells you so...!!!
But at the end of all, he does know his shit better than a lot of you
know
it alls..!!

so don't poke the bear, unless you want a response, that might piss you
off.
as he hold no punches....!!

Allan
abc@123.com> wrote in message
news:mve141h20smb210eckup5roka30e8e5u24@4ax.com...
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:36:59 +1100, "Phil Allison"
philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote:



** Sales charlatans gain a person's trust first and then exploit their
naivety - that is how fake demos work. Whether by word, voice tone,
facial
expression, body langauge, inference or whatever a deception is created
in
the mind of the customer - a sale then follows. That is basic
consumer
fraud.


PHIL ALLISON LIKES TO POST HELP OCCAISIONALLY TO GAIN YOUR TRUST, BUT
DON'T BE FOOLED, HE IS A PAINFULL TROLL, WHO HURLS ABUSE AT EVERYONE.

** It's a fake demo - a very blatant one.


PHIL ALLISON IS A FAKE WHEN HE PRETENDS TO CARE ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS.
A VERY BLATANT ONE.

** The right body in NSW is Fair Trading - you can get your friend
to
file a complaint report. The complaint will be referred to the store -
who
will simply deny.


PHIL KNOWS ALL ABOUT FAIR TRADING...JUST ASK HIM ABOUT QUAD SPEAKERS.

Better if your friend HAD bought the Monster Cable, then you demo to
him
that it makes no difference when tested correctly - then HE returns
the
junk for a full refund with YOU as his witness on a busy Saturday
morning.

Heaps of fun.

A HINT OF WHAT PHIL IS REALLY LIKE. HE LIVES FOR ABUSIVE ARGUMENTS.


............ Phil Allison a vile troll.

 

[Steven]

Total around 400. I'm going to leave Australia to the Australians. The
people we call "aboriginals" might like that.

Goodbye, you didn't leave a good impression today.

"ARA" <jwf@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote in message
news:424337d1@news.comindico.com.au...

Look, you've taken the trouble to "Warn Others" (below),
and that is good.

Now, printout your story/warning & add some details of
place, date, customer number (maybe get your friend to
sign & have notarised a Stat Dec with her story on it)
& (together) file a complaint with your State/Territory
Consumer Affairs office.

IT COSTS COMPANIES MONEY TO BE COMPLAINED ABOUT...
COMPLAINING CAN HELP THEM DECIDE TO STOP DOING THIS

Oh, and why not send a copy to your city's [Letters
to the] Editor (newspaper), ring your local TalkJocks
(on the ABC, if you want a chance to be heard without
being insulted... ;-), put up the story on bulletin
boards at/near the shopping center where your HN is.

Oh, and - of course - speak to the manager.

Other posters: Why not -encourage- this kind of pro-
active response happening, ie instead
of reducing the chance that it will...

(eg, don't suggest a person might not
have the confidence to speak to the
manager... why I do it all the time,
and I get a deep satisfaction from
-adding- that I'll be telling the
story - both locally (at various clubs
& association meetings) -and-
on the Internet.

(Of course, speak assertively, and
-not- insultingly to the manager &
- to avoid a law suit - be careful
not to commit libel when you publish
the story of what happened.

"I was told..." is better than
"S/he said..." (one tells YOUR
perceptions (hence your best memory),
the other may be disputed &
even be deemed libelous,
in some cases.)

Oh, when I am in a -crowded-
store, and I've got an obvious
scam... I usually speak LOUDER
so other would-be customers
can hear me (not loud enough to
be deemed a public nuisance)
and my points clearly.

A manager often changes tune
(and even make more than a
token offer to "settle" the
matter, so I'll go away quickly ;-)

Of course, it's good to have
a reasonable counteroffer, at
such times, ie, so your time
will be (almost) compensated.

"Poxy" <pox@poxymail.com> wrote in message
news:4ZT%d.7702$C7.1308@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
A friend was at Harvey Normans the other day, purchasing a plasma screen
TV.
After they'd negotiated the price - about $4,400 for an LG highish-res
panel, the sales guy then suggested they purchase a special component
cable
for hooking up their DVD player to the screen to achieve the best
quality
from their new screen.

For demonstration, he switched the panel to split-screen mode showing
the
same DVD title playing on each half, but connected by different cables.
He
was attempting to imply that the marked difference between the two
images
was due to the use of a "Monster" brand component video cable on one
input.
My friend gave me a call at the time and explained what the sales guy
was
trying to say, and commented that the Monster side had better detail in
the
blacks and looked better than the other half. I told her that it sounded
like a scam and hold off for the moment - she could always purchase it
at
a
later date, as he wasn't offering any great deal on the cable.

Subsequently, I worked out that they had hooked up the component output
of
the DVD player to one side, and the composite output to the other, and
was
then trying to claim that the improved picture was purely due to the
Monster
brand cable.

This strikes me as a blatantly dishonest and misleading demonstration -
the
salesman never stated that the difference in quality was largely (if not
entirely) due to the alternative signal format, rather he misrepresented
the
comparison with the goal of selling an obscenely overpriced cable of
dubious
benefit over a base-quality component cable.

Why? The 1m Monster cable costs $270.

Methinks a call to the ACCC is in order.

 

[paul packer]

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:41:10 GMT, "Steven" <Plume@nom.de> wrote:

He's better at it than I could do it???

Eh? What are you trying to say?

 

[roughplanet]

"paul packer" <packer@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:424939cd.42556630@news.iprimus.com.au...

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:41:10 GMT, "Steven" <Plume@nom.de> wrote:

He's better at it than I could do it???

Eh? What are you trying to say?

I'll hazard a guess & say he hasn't a clue . That's why he's shouting; it
makes the punters take notice of what they would normally just ignore.

ruff

 

[roughplanet]

"Steven" <Plume@nom.de> wrote in message
newska2e.67$bI3.16755@monger.newsread.com...

Total around 400. I'm going to leave Australia to the Australians. The
people we call "aboriginals" might like that.

Goodbye, you didn't leave a good impression today.

Well I doubt anyone from Weiser Idaho would know the difference.
Goodbye to you too.

 

[robert casey]

The 300-post farce you were responsible for creating 21- 25 March was of the
quality for nomination for some award.

That's nothing, you should have seen the ruckus I spawned in
one of the mathematics newsgroups about twelve years ago when
I posted about bad calculus classes in college. "How dare
you say that proofs are BS".....