Greenland's ice sheet just lost 11 billion tons of ice -- in

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Winfield Hill

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https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/02/world/greenland-ice-sheet-11-billion-intl/index.html


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On 8/2/19 3:06 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/02/world/greenland-ice-sheet-11-billion-intl/index.html

nice work floodin' the planet shit head arrogant boomerz
 
On 2 Aug 2019 12:06:18 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/02/world/greenland-ice-sheet-11-billion-intl/index.html

At the current rate of sea level rise, my house will be flooded in
about 100,000 years. I'm praying for an ice age.


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On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 21:52:21 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote in
news:qr49ke5bos0hdgb94222m8r3tp8dfdti9b@4ax.com:

I'm praying for an ice age.

So you can take a selfie?

So I can ski all year.


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John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote in
news:qr49ke5bos0hdgb94222m8r3tp8dfdti9b@4ax.com:

> I'm praying for an ice age.

So you can take a selfie?
 
On 2 Aug 2019 12:06:18 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/02/world/greenland-ice-sheet-11-billion-intl/index.html

Wel, it has gained over a trillion tons of ice in the last 2 years,
and of course they didnt mention it. Going for the shock factor I
guess;)

<https://climatechangedispatch.com/greenland-gains-massive-amounts-of-ice-second-year-in-a-row/>

Cheers
 
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 6:59:30 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2019-08-03 00:44, Martin Riddle wrote:
On 2 Aug 2019 12:06:18 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com
wrote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/02/world/greenland-ice-sheet-11-billion-intl/index.html

Wel, it has gained over a trillion tons of ice in the last 2 years,
and of course they didnt mention it. Going for the shock factor I
guess;)

https://climatechangedispatch.com/greenland-gains-massive-amounts-of-ice-second-year-in-a-row/

Cheers


I hate it when they do that. 11 billion tons is equivalent to
about 6mm of ice. Nothing spectacular to lose that much in one
summer day. But they have a point to make, haven't they?

Really? 11 billion tons of ice in one day is nothing unusual? What is the typical number?

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On 2019-08-03 00:44, Martin Riddle wrote:
On 2 Aug 2019 12:06:18 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com
wrote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/02/world/greenland-ice-sheet-11-billion-intl/index.html

Wel, it has gained over a trillion tons of ice in the last 2 years,
and of course they didnt mention it. Going for the shock factor I
guess;)

https://climatechangedispatch.com/greenland-gains-massive-amounts-of-ice-second-year-in-a-row/

Cheers

I hate it when they do that. 11 billion tons is equivalent to
about 6mm of ice. Nothing spectacular to lose that much in one
summer day. But they have a point to make, haven't they?

Jeroen Belleman
 
Jeroen Belleman wrote...
On 2019-08-03 00:44, Martin Riddle wrote:

Well, it has gained over a trillion tons of ice in the last 2 years,
and of course they didnt mention it. Going for the shock factor I
guess;)

https://climatechangedispatch.com/greenland-gains-massive-amounts-of-ice-second-year-in-a-row/

I hate it when they do that. 11 billion tons is equivalent to
about 6mm of ice. Nothing spectacular to lose that much in one
summer day. But they have a point to make, haven't they?

Apparently it's been going on for 4 months (a very early
start, 6mm * 120 days is 0.7m) and now picking up steam.
But it looks like the alarm bells are coming from the
researchers, who are in a better place than the rest of
us to be alarmed or not.

My eyebrows went up when the temp at the north pole went
above 65F recently. This after the temps at the north
pole were higher than here in Boston, at various times
during the winter. How can you not be alarmed at that?
And the ice cover thickness and extent scene is very bad.


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 10:03:07 AM UTC+10, John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/08/02 4:20 p.m., Winfield Hill wrote:
Jeroen Belleman wrote...

On 2019-08-03 00:44, Martin Riddle wrote:

Well, it has gained over a trillion tons of ice in the last 2 years,
and of course they didnt mention it. Going for the shock factor I
guess;)

https://climatechangedispatch.com/greenland-gains-massive-amounts-of-ice-second-year-in-a-row/

I hate it when they do that. 11 billion tons is equivalent to
about 6mm of ice. Nothing spectacular to lose that much in one
summer day. But they have a point to make, haven't they?

Apparently it's been going on for 4 months (a very early
start, 6mm * 120 days is 0.7m) and now picking up steam.
But it looks like the alarm bells are coming from the
researchers, who are in a better place than the rest of
us to be alarmed or not.

My eyebrows went up when the temp at the north pole went
above 65F recently. This after the temps at the north
pole were higher than here in Boston, at various times
during the winter. How can you not be alarmed at that?
And the ice cover thickness and extent scene is very bad.



Yes, but no one researches into previous massive melts such as around
900AD. There is Mendenhall Glacier in Alaska that is melting and
exposing a forest - which was in existence about 1000 years ago. How
long does it take to grow a forest?

Anybody growing sustainable timber knows that it take anything from about forty to a couple of hundred years, depending on the trees involved, the soil they are growing in and amount of water the trees can get at.

Does no one ask these questions?

https://www.livescience.com/39819-ancient-forest-thaws.html

Why should they bother? Local climate variations happen as the ocean currents move around. The Multidecadal Atlantic oscillation (discovered in 1993) explains that kind of local effect, and there may be even slower oscillations that we haven't noticed yet.

I wrote to the glaciologist (Ms Conner) a few years ago asking about the
forest and she said she only studies glaciers.

That's what the label says.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 8/2/2019 7:23 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 17:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin Bullshit Artist wrote:



At the current rate of sea level rise, my house will be flooded in
about 100,000 years.


** That tells me nothing about rising sea levels but quite a lot about where John's house is. Mine is about 250 feet above sea level while his may be thousands.

It might be best for you to panic now.

....and avoid the rush.
 
On 2 Aug 2019 16:20:38 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Jeroen Belleman wrote...

On 2019-08-03 00:44, Martin Riddle wrote:

Well, it has gained over a trillion tons of ice in the last 2 years,
and of course they didnt mention it. Going for the shock factor I
guess;)

https://climatechangedispatch.com/greenland-gains-massive-amounts-of-ice-second-year-in-a-row/

I hate it when they do that. 11 billion tons is equivalent to
about 6mm of ice. Nothing spectacular to lose that much in one
summer day. But they have a point to make, haven't they?

Apparently it's been going on for 4 months (a very early
start, 6mm * 120 days is 0.7m) and now picking up steam.
But it looks like the alarm bells are coming from the
researchers, who are in a better place than the rest of
us to be alarmed or not.

My eyebrows went up when the temp at the north pole went
above 65F recently. This after the temps at the north
pole were higher than here in Boston, at various times
during the winter. How can you not be alarmed at that?
And the ice cover thickness and extent scene is very bad.

As we keep installing instruments, many of them badly sited and badly
maintained, of course we will keep setting records.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
 
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 17:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin Bullshit Artist wrote:



At the current rate of sea level rise, my house will be flooded in
about 100,000 years.


** That tells me nothing about rising sea levels but quite a lot about where John's house is. Mine is about 250 feet above sea level while his may be thousands.

It might be best for you to panic now.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
 
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 7:20:43 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
Jeroen Belleman wrote...

On 2019-08-03 00:44, Martin Riddle wrote:

Well, it has gained over a trillion tons of ice in the last 2 years,
and of course they didnt mention it. Going for the shock factor I
guess;)

https://climatechangedispatch.com/greenland-gains-massive-amounts-of-ice-second-year-in-a-row/

I hate it when they do that. 11 billion tons is equivalent to
about 6mm of ice. Nothing spectacular to lose that much in one
summer day. But they have a point to make, haven't they?

Apparently it's been going on for 4 months (a very early
start, 6mm * 120 days is 0.7m) and now picking up steam.
But it looks like the alarm bells are coming from the
researchers, who are in a better place than the rest of
us to be alarmed or not.

My eyebrows went up when the temp at the north pole went
above 65F recently. This after the temps at the north
pole were higher than here in Boston, at various times
during the winter. How can you not be alarmed at that?
And the ice cover thickness and extent scene is very bad.

He is right about one thing. We should not be alarmed by one thing alone. There will always be new records set, hot, cold, rain, snow... What we need to pay attention to is the aggregate, not tiny pieces. We want to view the entire elephant, not individual parts like the blind men.

The reality is the warming will be very slow. Nothing will happen in a year, or even a decade. But if we continue to let the decades slide by without action, we will certainly find ourselves living in a different world where climates in many places have changed.

Heck, it is entirely possible John will get his snow year round for skiing. Well, for a while anyway.

--

Rick C.

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John Larkin Bullshit Artist wrote:


At the current rate of sea level rise, my house will be flooded in
about 100,000 years.

** That tells me nothing about rising sea levels but quite a lot about where John's house is. Mine is about 250 feet above sea level while his may be thousands.

Wot an idiot.


..... Phil
 
On 2019/08/02 4:20 p.m., Winfield Hill wrote:
Jeroen Belleman wrote...

On 2019-08-03 00:44, Martin Riddle wrote:

Well, it has gained over a trillion tons of ice in the last 2 years,
and of course they didnt mention it. Going for the shock factor I
guess;)

https://climatechangedispatch.com/greenland-gains-massive-amounts-of-ice-second-year-in-a-row/

I hate it when they do that. 11 billion tons is equivalent to
about 6mm of ice. Nothing spectacular to lose that much in one
summer day. But they have a point to make, haven't they?

Apparently it's been going on for 4 months (a very early
start, 6mm * 120 days is 0.7m) and now picking up steam.
But it looks like the alarm bells are coming from the
researchers, who are in a better place than the rest of
us to be alarmed or not.

My eyebrows went up when the temp at the north pole went
above 65F recently. This after the temps at the north
pole were higher than here in Boston, at various times
during the winter. How can you not be alarmed at that?
And the ice cover thickness and extent scene is very bad.

Yes, but no one researches into previous massive melts such as around
900AD. There is Mendenhall Glacier in Alaska that is melting and
exposing a forest - which was in existence about 1000 years ago. How
long does it take to grow a forest? Does no one ask these questions?

https://www.livescience.com/39819-ancient-forest-thaws.html

I wrote to the glaciologist (Ms Conner) a few years ago asking about the
forest and she said she only studies glaciers.

John :-#(#
 
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 5:50:12 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On 2 Aug 2019 12:06:18 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com
wrote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/02/world/greenland-ice-sheet-11-billion-intl/index.html

At the current rate of sea level rise, my house will be flooded in
about 100,000 years.

John Larkin doesn't process the kind of information that points out that sea level rise happens a lot more rapidly when the ice sheet as a whole starts sliding off into the ocean.

Bits fall off the edges of ice sheets all the time, and snow accumulates on the top, right up to the point where the ice sheet starts sliding off in large chunks, exposing bare rock (which reflects less of the incoming solar radiation than snow does, and absorbs quite a bit more, so that snow doesn't accumulate on it until winter).

> I'm praying for an ice age.

He gets in more skiing, and the rest of the population starves.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 10:23:37 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 17:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin Bullshit Artist wrote:

At the current rate of sea level rise, my house will be flooded in
about 100,000 years.

** That tells me nothing about rising sea levels but quite a lot about where John's house is. Mine is about 250 feet above sea level while his may be thousands.

It might be best for you to panic now.

Australians have more immediate problems with climate change. Sydney's drinking water reservoirs are only 50% full, and the desalination plant that got put in at the end of the last drought was turned on some months ago and is now pushing out some 15% of Sydney's drinking water.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-27/sydney-desalination-plant-turned-on-so-how-does-it-work/10753334

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Rick C wrote:
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 6:59:30 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2019-08-03 00:44, Martin Riddle wrote:
On 2 Aug 2019 12:06:18 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com
wrote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/02/world/greenland-ice-sheet-11-billion-intl/index.html

Wel, it has gained over a trillion tons of ice in the last 2 years,
and of course they didnt mention it. Going for the shock factor I
guess;)

https://climatechangedispatch.com/greenland-gains-massive-amounts-of-ice-second-year-in-a-row/

Cheers


I hate it when they do that. 11 billion tons is equivalent to
about 6mm of ice. Nothing spectacular to lose that much in one
summer day. But they have a point to make, haven't they?

Really? 11 billion tons of ice in one day is nothing unusual? What is the typical number?

Some interesting commentary...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7wrRmJ8n5w
 
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 8:29:19 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On 2 Aug 2019 16:20:38 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com
wrote:

Jeroen Belleman wrote...

On 2019-08-03 00:44, Martin Riddle wrote:

Well, it has gained over a trillion tons of ice in the last 2 years,
and of course they didnt mention it. Going for the shock factor I
guess;)

https://climatechangedispatch.com/greenland-gains-massive-amounts-of-ice-second-year-in-a-row/

I hate it when they do that. 11 billion tons is equivalent to
about 6mm of ice. Nothing spectacular to lose that much in one
summer day. But they have a point to make, haven't they?

Apparently it's been going on for 4 months (a very early
start, 6mm * 120 days is 0.7m) and now picking up steam.
But it looks like the alarm bells are coming from the
researchers, who are in a better place than the rest of
us to be alarmed or not.

My eyebrows went up when the temp at the north pole went
above 65F recently. This after the temps at the north
pole were higher than here in Boston, at various times
during the winter. How can you not be alarmed at that?
And the ice cover thickness and extent scene is very bad.

As we keep installing instruments, many of them badly sited and badly
maintained, of course we will keep setting records.

Yeah, better not site them on glaciers.

--

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