GPS Phone madness

"Jeßus" <none@all.org> wrote in message
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In article <2448dabd-3fad-447b-86d9-
f9f1bbd0b0bb@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, kenreed1999@gmail.com said...
:
:
:> **Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to trust in
the
:> law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps them honest. It's not
:> perfect, but it is a whole lot better than your idea of anarchy.
:
:
:
:OMFG ! Now I have heard everything !
:
:You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
:government corruption, the most
:naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.

He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is capable
seeking accurate information at the same time. How he /interprets/ that
information is... odd, to say the very least! He also - as you say -
comes across as a troll. Why else would he say the things he does? And
yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile. Maybe he's just a little
unhinged in some ways? No name calling here, etc. I'm quite serious.
**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths. It is, far
and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of legislation ever
enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and gets drunks off the road. If
a drunk kills him/her self, I don't get all that concerned. When a drunk
driver kills a close friend and her husband (leaving two children orphaned)
I get pretty angry (the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).

I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also accept that
it is imperfect and that there may well be far better solutions. I will
NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine piece of legislation. I
and the vast majority of Australians support it.

Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about gun
ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my position. I have
calmed down and will place those thoughts on the record. Do not misquote me
again.

I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal, licensed gun
owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their weapons under the
approved conditions.

That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to elaborate, I
would add the following:

I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that the
bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek psychiatric
help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who wish to exterminate
rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other feral species on private
land. They perform a valuable service to the community. I have zero problems
with responsible shooters. At least 5 of my friends are regular shooters
(two, with handguns). I do not "fear" or hate guns. I hate morons with guns.

Clear enough?


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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I hate morons with guns.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
Don't buy a gun then Trevor, otherwise you will hate yourself !!!
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Jeßus" <none@all.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.25267f9598d9ff0c989a71@news.x-privat.org...
In article <2448dabd-3fad-447b-86d9-
f9f1bbd0b0bb@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, kenreed1999@gmail.com said...
:
:
:> **Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to trust in
the
:> law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps them honest. It's not
:> perfect, but it is a whole lot better than your idea of anarchy.
:
:
:
:OMFG ! Now I have heard everything !
:
:You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
:government corruption, the most
:naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.

He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is capable
seeking accurate information at the same time. How he /interprets/ that
information is... odd, to say the very least! He also - as you say -
comes across as a troll. Why else would he say the things he does? And
yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile. Maybe he's just a little
unhinged in some ways? No name calling here, etc. I'm quite serious.

**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths. It is, far
and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of legislation ever
enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and gets drunks off the road. If
a drunk kills him/her self, I don't get all that concerned. When a drunk
driver kills a close friend and her husband (leaving two children orphaned)
I get pretty angry (the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).

I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also accept that
it is imperfect and that there may well be far better solutions. I will
NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine piece of legislation. I
and the vast majority of Australians support it.

Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about gun
ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my position. I have
calmed down and will place those thoughts on the record. Do not misquote me
again.

I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal, licensed gun
owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their weapons under the
approved conditions.

That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to elaborate, I
would add the following:

I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that the
bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek psychiatric
help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who wish to exterminate
rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other feral species on private
land. They perform a valuable service to the community. I have zero problems
with responsible shooters. At least 5 of my friends are regular shooters
(two, with handguns). I do not "fear" or hate guns. I hate morons with guns.

Clear enough?


Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.
 
John - Melb wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Jeßus" wrote ...

**Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to
trust in the law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps
them honest. It's not perfect, but it is a whole lot better than
your idea of anarchy.

OMFG ! Now I have heard everything !

You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
government corruption, the most
naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.

He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is
capable seeking accurate information at the same time. How he
/interprets/ that information is... odd, to say the very least! He
also - as you say - comes across as a troll. Why else would he say
the things he does? And yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile.
Maybe he's just a little unhinged in some ways? No name calling
here, etc. I'm quite serious.

**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths.
It is, far and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of
legislation ever enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and
gets drunks off the road. If a drunk kills him/her self, I don't
get all that concerned. When a drunk driver kills a close friend
and her husband (leaving two children orphaned) I get pretty angry
(the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).

I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also
accept that it is imperfect and that there may well be far better
solutions. I will NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine
piece of legislation. I and the vast majority of Australians
support it.

Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about
gun ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my
position. I have calmed down and will place those thoughts on the
record. Do not misquote me again.

I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal,
licensed gun owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their
weapons under the approved conditions.

That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to
elaborate, I would add the following:

I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that
the bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek
psychiatric help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who
wish to exterminate rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other
feral species on private land. They perform a valuable service to
the community. I have zero problems with responsible shooters. At
least 5 of my friends are regular shooters (two, with handguns). I
do not "fear" or hate guns. I hate morons with guns.

Clear enough?

Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego
and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sorry Keefy, too late.

It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
anti-gun rants appearing on aus.electronics, he's concerned that an
alternative viewpoint may appear.

Doesn't surprise me in the least.
I was right!

You are a paranoid sook!!!

--
Dyna

All rights reserved. All wrongs avenged.
 
On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Jeßus" <n...@all.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.25267f9598d9ff0c989a71@news.x-privat.org...
In article <2448dabd-3fad-447b-86d9-
f9f1bbd0b...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, kenreed1...@gmail.com said....
:
:
:> **Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to trust in
the
:> law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps them honest. It's not
:> perfect, but it is a whole lot better than your idea of anarchy.
:
:
:
:OMFG !  Now I have heard everything !
:
:You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
:government corruption, the most
:naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.

He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is capable
seeking accurate information at the same time. How he /interprets/ that
information is... odd, to say the very least! He also - as you say -
comes across as a troll. Why else would he say the things he does? And
yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile. Maybe he's just a little
unhinged in some ways? No name calling here, etc. I'm quite serious.

**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths. It is, far
and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of legislation ever
enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and gets drunks off the road.. If
a drunk kills him/her self, I don't get all that concerned. When a drunk
driver kills a close friend and her husband (leaving two children orphaned)
I get pretty angry (the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).

I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also accept that
it is imperfect and that there may well be far better solutions. I will
NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine piece of legislation. I
and the vast majority of Australians support it.

Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about gun
ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my position. I have
calmed down and will place those thoughts on the record. Do not misquote me
again.

I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal, licensed gun
owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their weapons under the
approved conditions.

That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to elaborate, I
would add the following:

I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that the
bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek psychiatric
help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who wish to exterminate
rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other feral species on private
land. They perform a valuable service to the community. I have zero problems
with responsible shooters. At least 5 of my friends are regular shooters
(two, with handguns). I do not "fear" or hate guns. I hate morons with guns.

Clear enough?

Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Sorry Keefy, too late.

It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
anti-gun rants appearing on aus.electronics, he's concerned that an
alternative viewpoint may appear.

Doesn't surprise me in the least.
 
On Sep 26, 10:17 pm, "Dyna Soar"
<dynasoar..REMOVE..THI...@ozdebate.com> wrote:
John - Melb wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Jeßus"  wrote  ...
**Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to
trust in the law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps
them honest. It's not perfect, but it is a whole lot better than
your idea of anarchy.
OMFG ! Now I have heard everything !
You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
government corruption, the most
naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.
He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is
capable seeking accurate information at the same time. How he
/interprets/ that information is... odd, to say the very least! He
also - as you say - comes across as a troll. Why else would he say
the things he does? And yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile.
Maybe he's just a little unhinged in some ways? No name calling
here, etc. I'm quite serious.
**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths.
It is, far and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of
legislation ever enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and
gets drunks off the road. If a drunk kills him/her self, I don't
get all that concerned. When a drunk driver kills a close friend
and her husband (leaving two children orphaned) I get pretty angry
(the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).
I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also
accept that it is imperfect and that there may well be far better
solutions. I will NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine
piece of legislation. I and the vast majority of Australians
support it.
Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about
gun ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my
position. I have calmed down and will place those thoughts on the
record. Do not misquote me again.
I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal,
licensed gun owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their
weapons under the approved conditions.
That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to
elaborate, I would add the following:
I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that
the bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek
psychiatric help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who
wish to exterminate rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other
feral species on private land. They perform a valuable service to
the community. I have zero problems with responsible shooters. At
least 5 of my friends are regular shooters (two, with handguns). I
do not "fear" or hate guns. I hate morons with guns.
Clear enough?
Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego
and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Sorry Keefy, too late.
It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
anti-gun rants appearing on aus.electronics, he's concerned that an
alternative viewpoint may appear.
Doesn't surprise me in the least.

I was right!

You are a paranoid sook!!!

--
Dyna
Thank you............
All rights reserved. All wrongs avenged.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
 
On Sep 26, 9:28 pm, John - Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:



Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Jeßus" <n...@all.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.25267f9598d9ff0c989a71@news.x-privat.org...
In article <2448dabd-3fad-447b-86d9-
f9f1bbd0b...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, kenreed1...@gmail.com said...
:
:
:> **Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to trust in
the
:> law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps them honest. It's not
:> perfect, but it is a whole lot better than your idea of anarchy.
:
:
:
:OMFG !  Now I have heard everything !
:
:You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
:government corruption, the most
:naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.

He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is capable
seeking accurate information at the same time. How he /interprets/ that
information is... odd, to say the very least! He also - as you say -
comes across as a troll. Why else would he say the things he does? And
yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile. Maybe he's just a little
unhinged in some ways? No name calling here, etc. I'm quite serious.

**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths. It is, far
and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of legislation ever
enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and gets drunks off the road. If
a drunk kills him/her self, I don't get all that concerned. When a drunk
driver kills a close friend and her husband (leaving two children orphaned)
I get pretty angry (the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).

I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also accept that
it is imperfect and that there may well be far better solutions. I will
NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine piece of legislation. I
and the vast majority of Australians support it.

Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about gun
ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my position. I have
calmed down and will place those thoughts on the record. Do not misquote me
again.

I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal, licensed gun
owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their weapons under the
approved conditions.

That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to elaborate, I
would add the following:

I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that the
bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek psychiatric
help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who wish to exterminate
rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other feral species on private
land. They perform a valuable service to the community. I have zero problems
with responsible shooters. At least 5 of my friends are regular shooters
(two, with handguns). I do not "fear" or hate guns. I hate morons with guns.

Clear enough?

Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sorry Keefy, too late.

It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
anti-gun rants appearing on aus.electronics, he's concerned that an
alternative viewpoint may appear.

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

You should add this gem to trev tosspot's porky list:

"Mine is to trust in the
law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps them honest. It's not
perfect, but it is a whole lot better than your idea of anarchy. "


Also could add that the right to gun ownership is essential, to
encourage them to stay (more) honest,
and as a last resort, to any "honesty" problems, and restore basic
human rights if the "system that keeps them honest" (which doesn't
seem to exist anymore) repeatedly fails to do so.
 
In article <387e5aac-0f5d-4830-b80b-83059c31b5f3
@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, mcnamara_john@hotmail.com said...
:
:On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
<snip>
:> Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego and
:> his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.- Hide quoted text -
:>
:> - Show quoted text -
:
:Sorry Keefy, too late.
:
:It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
:anti-gun rants appearing on aus.electronics, he's concerned that an
:alternative viewpoint may appear.
:
:Doesn't surprise me in the least.

You're every bit as bad as Trevor...
"Doesn't surprise me in the least". A zealot of any stripe is still a
zealot.
 
On Sep 27, 11:00 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
John - Melb wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Jeßus" <n...@all.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.25267f9598d9ff0c989a71@news.x-privat.org...
In article <2448dabd-3fad-447b-86d9-
f9f1bbd0b...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, kenreed1...@gmail.com said...
:
:
:> **Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to trust in
the
:> law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps them honest. It's not
:> perfect, but it is a whole lot better than your idea of anarchy.
:
:
:
:OMFG !  Now I have heard everything !
:
:You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
:government corruption, the most
:naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.
He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is capable
seeking accurate information at the same time. How he /interprets/ that
information is... odd, to say the very least! He also - as you say -
comes across as a troll. Why else would he say the things he does? And
yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile. Maybe he's just a little
unhinged in some ways? No name calling here, etc. I'm quite serious.
**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths. It is, far
and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of legislation ever
enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and gets drunks off the road. If
a drunk kills him/her self, I don't get all that concerned. When a drunk
driver kills a close friend and her husband (leaving two children orphaned)
I get pretty angry (the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).
I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also accept that
it is imperfect and that there may well be far better solutions. I will
NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine piece of legislation. I
and the vast majority of Australians support it.
Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about gun
ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my position. I have
calmed down and will place those thoughts on the record. Do not misquote me
again.
I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal, licensed gun
owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their weapons under the
approved conditions.
That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to elaborate, I
would add the following:
I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that the
bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek psychiatric
help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who wish to exterminate
rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other feral species on private
land. They perform a valuable service to the community. I have zero problems
with responsible shooters. At least 5 of my friends are regular shooters
(two, with handguns). I do not "fear" or hate guns. I hate morons with guns.
Clear enough?
Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sorry Keefy, too late.

It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
anti-gun rants appearing on aus.electronics, he's concerned that an
alternative viewpoint may appear.

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

Poor little johnny so upset by nasty old tevvy that he has to spoil
other people's enjoyment in revenge.
Poor little Keevy is upset that the nasty rednecks demand the same
freedom of speech as his anti-gun mates.

John you are pathetic, and one of the reasons that the public at large
get the impression that gun owners are a bunch of irresponsible hicks.
Yep, its all my fault. well it's nice to know I've left an
impression.

Being called names by the likes of a wanker like you really is a
compliment, I must being doing something right.
 
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:7i28u4F301esqU1@mid.individual.net...
"Jeßus" <none@all.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.25267f9598d9ff0c989a71@news.x-privat.org...
In article <2448dabd-3fad-447b-86d9-
f9f1bbd0b0bb@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, kenreed1999@gmail.com said...
:
:
:> **Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to trust
in the
:> law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps them honest. It's not
:> perfect, but it is a whole lot better than your idea of anarchy.
:
:
:
:OMFG ! Now I have heard everything !
:
:You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
:government corruption, the most
:naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.

He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is capable
seeking accurate information at the same time. How he /interprets/ that
information is... odd, to say the very least! He also - as you say -
comes across as a troll. Why else would he say the things he does? And
yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile. Maybe he's just a little
unhinged in some ways? No name calling here, etc. I'm quite serious.

**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths. It is,
far and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of legislation
ever enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and gets drunks off the
road. If a drunk kills him/her self, I don't get all that concerned. When
a drunk driver kills a close friend and her husband (leaving two children
orphaned) I get pretty angry (the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).

I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also accept
that it is imperfect and that there may well be far better solutions. I
will NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine piece of
legislation. I and the vast majority of Australians support it.

Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about gun
ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my position. I
have calmed down and will place those thoughts on the record. Do not
misquote me again.

I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal, licensed
gun owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their weapons under the
approved conditions.

That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to elaborate, I
would add the following:

I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that the
bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek psychiatric
help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who wish to
exterminate rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other feral species
on private land. They perform a valuable service to the community. I have
zero problems with responsible shooters. At least 5 of my friends are
regular shooters (two, with handguns). I do not "fear" or hate guns. I
hate morons with guns.

Clear enough?
**Clear enough?


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote in message
[...]
**As long as the government sees fit to allow complete morons the right to
drive a car, then we needs laws to ensure that they do not injure others.

BTW: Idiots using a GPS can injure pedestrians too.

Like I said before: Walk a mile in my shoes. Wait 'till some idiot rams you
up the arse, because he was mucking about with his GPS. You'll be screaming
for legislation too. I was dead lucky. No injuries and not much damage to my
car. Next time and idiot decides to play Russian roulette with MY life, I
may not be so lucky. Nor, I might add, might you be.
Hell, I spent years on the road as a field tech. I've lost count of how
many times I've had near misses with morons yapping on their mobiles, of
texting on them while driving. The sooner driving distractions are
outlawed, the happier I'll be.


--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
 
Mr.T wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:7ht5q7F2u9239U1@mid.individual.net...
**As long as the government sees fit to allow complete morons the right to
drive a car, then we needs laws to ensure that they do not injure others.

How stupid! IF you don't prevent the truly stupid from driving in the first
place, NO law is going to prevent them injuring others.

BTW: Idiots using a GPS can injure pedestrians too.

Since intelligent people only touch it *before* they drive, I can't see how.
You think that there are only intelligent people on the road? From
personal experience, I can assure that most people on the road are idiots.


--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
 
"Bob Larter" <bobbylarter@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:h9qnrm$kl3$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote in message
[...]
**As long as the government sees fit to allow complete morons the right
to
drive a car, then we needs laws to ensure that they do not injure
others.

BTW: Idiots using a GPS can injure pedestrians too.

Like I said before: Walk a mile in my shoes. Wait 'till some idiot rams
you
up the arse, because he was mucking about with his GPS. You'll be
screaming
for legislation too. I was dead lucky. No injuries and not much damage
to my
car. Next time and idiot decides to play Russian roulette with MY life,
I
may not be so lucky. Nor, I might add, might you be.

Hell, I spent years on the road as a field tech. I've lost count of how
many times I've had near misses with morons yapping on their mobiles, of
texting on them while driving. The sooner driving distractions are
outlawed, the happier I'll be.

And Netiquette says if you are going to snip *ALL* of what a person wrote,
you can at least snip their name as well!

It is impossible to ban everything that will distract a MORON driver, far
easier to ban the MORON in the first place.
At least there should be severe penalties for CAUSING a crash. The one time
someone ran into me, put me into hospital, and was actually taken to court,
they were found guilty of careless driving and failing to give way, and
given a fine LESS than a parking ticket!

MrT.
 
"Bob Larter" <bobbylarter@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:h9qo0b$kl3$2@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
Mr.T wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:7ht5q7F2u9239U1@mid.individual.net...
**As long as the government sees fit to allow complete morons the right
to
drive a car, then we needs laws to ensure that they do not injure
others.

How stupid! IF you don't prevent the truly stupid from driving in the
first
place, NO law is going to prevent them injuring others.

BTW: Idiots using a GPS can injure pedestrians too.

Since intelligent people only touch it *before* they drive, I can't see
how.

You think that there are only intelligent people on the road?
No I don't, and I don't think laws banning GPS usage will get rid of them
either, DO YOU?


From personal experience, I can assure that most people on the road are
idiots.

Are you one of them then? Must be if you think banning *PROPER* usage of a
GPS, as well as stupid use, will stop crashes.

MrT.
 
On Sep 28, 3:27 pm, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
On 28/09/2009 7:57 AM, John - Melb wrote:





On Sep 27, 11:00 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
John - Melb wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Jeßus"<n...@all.org>  wrote in message
news:MPG.25267f9598d9ff0c989a71@news.x-privat.org...
In article<2448dabd-3fad-447b-86d9-
f9f1bbd0b...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, kenreed1...@gmail.com said...
:
:
:>  **Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to trust in
the
:>  law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps them honest.. It's not
:>  perfect, but it is a whole lot better than your idea of anarchy.
:
:
:
:OMFG !  Now I have heard everything !
:
:You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
:government corruption, the most
:naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.
He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is capable
seeking accurate information at the same time. How he /interprets/ that
information is... odd, to say the very least! He also - as you say -
comes across as a troll. Why else would he say the things he does? And
yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile. Maybe he's just a little
unhinged in some ways? No name calling here, etc. I'm quite serious.
**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths. It is, far
and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of legislation ever
enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and gets drunks off the road. If
a drunk kills him/her self, I don't get all that concerned. When a drunk
driver kills a close friend and her husband (leaving two children orphaned)
I get pretty angry (the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).
I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also accept that
it is imperfect and that there may well be far better solutions. I will
NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine piece of legislation. I
and the vast majority of Australians support it.
Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about gun
ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my position.. I have
calmed down and will place those thoughts on the record. Do not misquote me
again.
I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal, licensed gun
owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their weapons under the
approved conditions.
That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to elaborate, I
would add the following:
I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that the
bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek psychiatric
help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who wish to exterminate
rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other feral species on private
land. They perform a valuable service to the community. I have zero problems
with responsible shooters. At least 5 of my friends are regular shooters
(two, with handguns). I do not "fear" or hate guns. I hate morons with guns.
Clear enough?
Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sorry Keefy, too late.

It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
anti-gun rants appearing on aus.electronics, he's concerned that an
alternative viewpoint may appear.

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

Poor little johnny so upset by nasty old tevvy that he has to spoil
other people's enjoyment in revenge.

Poor little Keevy is upset that the nasty rednecks demand the same
freedom of speech as his anti-gun mates.

John, you are the one that spends his working hours searching the
internet for anti-gun comments, and then feels the need to answer every
single one of them.
Don't surf at work, already told you that.

Of course you are too stupid to notice that trevor has no mates. If it
wasn't for you constantly drawing attention to them, no one would even
notice his comments. You are doing him a great favour.
No, according to some dickhead on aus.electronics, Trevor is one of
you longest standing and most respected posters. You don't care what
Trevor, or any other anti-guin idiot posts on aus.electronics, your
beef is when an alternative viewpoint appears, you've demonstrated
that quite clearly.

John you are pathetic, and one of the reasons that the public at large
get the impression that gun owners are a bunch of irresponsible hicks.

Yep, its all my fault. well it's nice to know I've left an
impression.

So did Hitler.

Being called names by the likes of a wanker like you really is a
compliment, I must being doing something right.

So I have officially been raised to the rank of wanker, I must being
doing something right.

I wonder what the SSAA think of you undoing all the careful work that
they have put in to portray gun owners as moderate responsible members
of the community rather than a bunch of raving ratbags.
Having previously spent a number of years on the State Executive
Committee of that organisation, and seen first hand the way they
operate, I don't really give a fat rats clacker what the SSAA think
about me. (I care even less what you think of me.), Hell, I don't even
bother attending or voting in AGM's any more.
 
On Sep 29, 8:08 am, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

**The SSAA does that all on it's own. Here is one of their more high profile
members:

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/macdonalds-game-counci...
Yep, one of their "more high profile members" er. does the article
mention SSAA at all?

And here's one of the anti-gun lobby's "more high profile members"
---------------------------------------------------------------
(SSANZ SSANZ) Newsletter – March/April 2005 Newsletter - March 2005

Gunsafe spokesman convicted

A Huntly lawyer (and Gunsafe spokesman) Mike Meyrick has been found
guilty of attempting to pervert the course of justice after Judge Mike
Behrens, QC, released his reserved decision following a recent
defended hearing in the Hamilton District Court.

Meyrick wasn’t a credible witness, the judge ruled.

Meyrick was originally charged with storing images of child
pornography in his computer, but the additional charge of attempting
to pervert the course of justice was laid after he allegedly took a
computer tower from his daughter’s Auckland flat in September last
year, hours before police called to collect it.

Police were interested in the tower after allegations were made to
them about what it contained.

Mike Meyrick has repeatedly been used by Gunsafe as their number two
spokesman, whenever Philip Alpers was unable or unwilling to make
comment in the media. This was especially the case following Alpers
bungled appearance on TV3’s “The Ralston Show”, when Alpers “blew it”,
by attacking official gun-safety programmes designed to educate kids
about safe firearm handling practices.

Even Bill Ralston found it incredulous that we should protect children
by educating them about the risks of drowning, stranger danger and
crossing the road, while Gunsafe’s strategy for protecting kids from
firearm accidents was to keep them ignorant.

Thereafter, Gunsafe exclusively used Meyrick as their main spokesman -
for instance, he appeared on “The Holmes Show” to challenge SSANZ
after the Port Arthur tragedy. Meyrick traded on his being an ex-
police officer, despite the suggestion that he left the force in
somewhat dubious circumstances.

Since then he has occasionally appeared on TV, adopting an extremely
critical stance towards police, including making unsubstantiated
claims about police brutality. Meyrick subsequently worked as a lawyer
in Huntly.
----------------------------------------------
 
John - Melb wrote:
On Sep 28, 3:27 pm, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
On 28/09/2009 7:57 AM, John - Melb wrote:





On Sep 27, 11:00 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
John - Melb wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Jeßus"<n...@all.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.25267f9598d9ff0c989a71@news.x-privat.org...
In article<2448dabd-3fad-447b-86d9-
f9f1bbd0b...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, kenreed1...@gmail.com said...
:
:
:> **Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to trust in
the
:> law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps them honest. It's not
:> perfect, but it is a whole lot better than your idea of anarchy.
:
:
:
:OMFG ! Now I have heard everything !
:
:You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
:government corruption, the most
:naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.
He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is capable
seeking accurate information at the same time. How he /interprets/ that
information is... odd, to say the very least! He also - as you say -
comes across as a troll. Why else would he say the things he does? And
yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile. Maybe he's just a little
unhinged in some ways? No name calling here, etc. I'm quite serious.
**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths. It is, far
and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of legislation ever
enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and gets drunks off the road. If
a drunk kills him/her self, I don't get all that concerned. When a drunk
driver kills a close friend and her husband (leaving two children orphaned)
I get pretty angry (the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).
I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also accept that
it is imperfect and that there may well be far better solutions. I will
NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine piece of legislation. I
and the vast majority of Australians support it.
Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about gun
ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my position. I have
calmed down and will place those thoughts on the record. Do not misquote me
again.
I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal, licensed gun
owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their weapons under the
approved conditions.
That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to elaborate, I
would add the following:
I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that the
bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek psychiatric
help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who wish to exterminate
rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other feral species on private
land. They perform a valuable service to the community. I have zero problems
with responsible shooters. At least 5 of my friends are regular shooters
(two, with handguns). I do not "fear" or hate guns. I hate morons with guns.
Clear enough?
Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Sorry Keefy, too late.
It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
anti-gun rants appearing on aus.electronics, he's concerned that an
alternative viewpoint may appear.
Doesn't surprise me in the least.
Poor little johnny so upset by nasty old tevvy that he has to spoil
other people's enjoyment in revenge.
Poor little Keevy is upset that the nasty rednecks demand the same
freedom of speech as his anti-gun mates.
John, you are the one that spends his working hours searching the
internet for anti-gun comments, and then feels the need to answer every
single one of them.


Don't surf at work, already told you that.
Hmm maybe we will have to add that to little johnnie's porky list. This
is what he said a little earlier:-

"Have you got any idea what I do for a living? Yeah, I get lots of free
time to shit-stir anti-gun idiots at work, and we have spare computers
with net-access all over the place........"

Of course you are too stupid to notice that trevor has no mates. If it
wasn't for you constantly drawing attention to them, no one would even
notice his comments. You are doing him a great favour.

No, according to some dickhead on aus.electronics, Trevor is one of
you longest standing and most respected posters. You don't care what
Trevor, or any other anti-guin idiot posts on aus.electronics, your
beef is when an alternative viewpoint appears, you've demonstrated
that quite clearly.
Long standing maybe, respected, depends on what he is talking about.

John you are pathetic, and one of the reasons that the public at large
get the impression that gun owners are a bunch of irresponsible hicks.
Yep, its all my fault. well it's nice to know I've left an
impression.
So did Hitler.

Being called names by the likes of a wanker like you really is a
compliment, I must being doing something right.
So I have officially been raised to the rank of wanker, I must being
doing something right.

I wonder what the SSAA think of you undoing all the careful work that
they have put in to portray gun owners as moderate responsible members
of the community rather than a bunch of raving ratbags.

Having previously spent a number of years on the State Executive
Committee of that organisation, and seen first hand the way they
operate, I don't really give a fat rats clacker what the SSAA think
about me. (I care even less what you think of me.), Hell, I don't even
bother attending or voting in AGM's any more.
Thats OK then because I don't think of you.
 
John - Melb wrote:
On Sep 29, 8:08 am, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**The SSAA does that all on it's own. Here is one of their more high profile
members:

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/macdonalds-game-counci...

Yep, one of their "more high profile members" er. does the article
mention SSAA at all?

And here's one of the anti-gun lobby's "more high profile members"
---------------------------------------------------------------
(SSANZ SSANZ) Newsletter – March/April 2005 Newsletter - March 2005

Gunsafe spokesman convicted

A Huntly lawyer (and Gunsafe spokesman) Mike Meyrick has been found
guilty of attempting to pervert the course of justice after Judge Mike
Behrens, QC, released his reserved decision following a recent
defended hearing in the Hamilton District Court.

Meyrick wasn’t a credible witness, the judge ruled.

Meyrick was originally charged with storing images of child
pornography in his computer, but the additional charge of attempting
to pervert the course of justice was laid after he allegedly took a
computer tower from his daughter’s Auckland flat in September last
year, hours before police called to collect it.

Police were interested in the tower after allegations were made to
them about what it contained.

Mike Meyrick has repeatedly been used by Gunsafe as their number two
spokesman, whenever Philip Alpers was unable or unwilling to make
comment in the media. This was especially the case following Alpers
bungled appearance on TV3’s “The Ralston Show”, when Alpers “blew it”,
by attacking official gun-safety programmes designed to educate kids
about safe firearm handling practices.

Even Bill Ralston found it incredulous that we should protect children
by educating them about the risks of drowning, stranger danger and
crossing the road, while Gunsafe’s strategy for protecting kids from
firearm accidents was to keep them ignorant.

Thereafter, Gunsafe exclusively used Meyrick as their main spokesman -
for instance, he appeared on “The Holmes Show” to challenge SSANZ
after the Port Arthur tragedy. Meyrick traded on his being an ex-
police officer, despite the suggestion that he left the force in
somewhat dubious circumstances.

Since then he has occasionally appeared on TV, adopting an extremely
critical stance towards police, including making unsubstantiated
claims about police brutality. Meyrick subsequently worked as a lawyer
in Huntly.
----------------------------------------------
5 years ago in New Zealand, you do cast your net far and wide don't you?
You really should get out more, take up a hobby other than tracking down
every last anti-gun post ever made, learn ballroom dancing or something.
 
On Sep 29, 8:35 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
John - Melb wrote:
On Sep 28, 3:27 pm, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
On 28/09/2009 7:57 AM, John - Melb wrote:

On Sep 27, 11:00 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
John - Melb wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Jeßus"<n...@all.org>  wrote in message
news:MPG.25267f9598d9ff0c989a71@news.x-privat.org...
In article<2448dabd-3fad-447b-86d9-
f9f1bbd0b...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, kenreed1...@gmail.com said...
:
:
:>  **Yours is akin to one of the war lords in Somalia. Mine is to trust in
the
:>  law and the lawmakers and the system which keeps them honest. It's not
:>  perfect, but it is a whole lot better than your idea of anarchy.
:
:
:
:OMFG !  Now I have heard everything !
:
:You either are a troll, a viral marketer and posterboy for state
:government corruption, the most
:naive being ever created, or an ABSOLUTE TOTAL NUTCASE.
He's certainly an odd combination of things, thats for sure.
He *does* come across as very naive, and yet at the same time is capable
seeking accurate information at the same time. How he /interprets/ that
information is... odd, to say the very least! He also - as you say -
comes across as a troll. Why else would he say the things he does? And
yet, he doesnt really fit a troll profile. Maybe he's just a little
unhinged in some ways? No name calling here, etc. I'm quite serious.
**"Unhinged"? Get real. RBT has been shown to reduce road deaths. It is, far
and away, the most significant and far-reaching piece of legislation ever
enacted WRT motor vehicles. It saves lives and gets drunks off the road. If
a drunk kills him/her self, I don't get all that concerned. When a drunk
driver kills a close friend and her husband (leaving two children orphaned)
I get pretty angry (the drunk survived relatively intact, BTW).
I accept that many people don't like the GPS legislation. I also accept that
it is imperfect and that there may well be far better solutions. I will
NEVER acknowledge that RBT is anything but a fine piece of legislation. I
and the vast majority of Australians support it.
Lastly: I will respond to your request to place my feelings about gun
ownership. I was extremely angry at your lies regarding my position. I have
calmed down and will place those thoughts on the record. Do not misquote me
again.
I fully support the 1996 gun control laws, which allows legal, licensed gun
owners, the ability to buy, use, own and store their weapons under the
approved conditions.
That's the best I can do in one sentence. If I was allowed to elaborate, I
would add the following:
I do not support the legal shooting of native ducks and feel that the
bloodthirsty morons who engage in such activity should seek psychiatric
help. OTOH, I fully support the activities shooters who wish to exterminate
rabbits, pigs, wild dogs, cats, rats and other feral species on private
land. They perform a valuable service to the community. I have zero problems
with responsible shooters. At least 5 of my friends are regular shooters
(two, with handguns). I do not "fear" or hate guns. I hate morons with guns.
Clear enough?
Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Sorry Keefy, too late.
It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
anti-gun rants appearing on aus.electronics, he's concerned that an
alternative viewpoint may appear.
Doesn't surprise me in the least.
Poor little johnny so upset by nasty old tevvy that he has to spoil
other people's enjoyment in revenge.
Poor little Keevy is upset that the nasty rednecks demand the same
freedom of speech as his anti-gun mates.
John, you are the one that spends his working hours searching the
internet for anti-gun comments, and then feels the need to answer every
single one of them.

Don't surf at work, already told you that.

Hmm maybe we will have to add that to little johnnie's porky list. This
is what he said a little earlier:-

"Have you got any idea what I do for a living? Yeah, I get lots of free
time to shit-stir anti-gun idiots at work, and we have spare computers
with net-access all over the place........"

It's a shame for such a clever fellow that you cannot recognise
sarcasm

Of course you are too stupid to notice that trevor has no mates. If it
wasn't for you constantly drawing attention to them, no one would even
notice his comments. You are doing him a great favour.

No, according to some dickhead on aus.electronics, Trevor is one of
you longest standing and most respected posters. You don't care what
Trevor, or any other anti-guin idiot posts on aus.electronics, your
beef is when an alternative viewpoint appears, you've demonstrated
that quite clearly.

Long standing maybe, respected, depends on  what he is talking about.





John you are pathetic, and one of the reasons that the public at large
get the impression that gun owners are a bunch of irresponsible hicks.
Yep, its all my fault. well it's nice to know I've left an
impression.
So did Hitler.

Being called names by the likes of a wanker like you really is a
compliment, I must being doing something right.
So I have officially been raised to the rank of wanker, I must being
doing something right.

I wonder what the SSAA think of you undoing all the careful work that
they have put in to portray gun owners as moderate responsible members
of the community rather than a bunch of raving ratbags.

Having previously spent a number of years on the State Executive
Committee of that organisation, and seen first hand the way they
operate, I don't really give a fat rats clacker what the SSAA think
about me. (I care even less what you think of me.), Hell, I don't even
bother attending or voting in AGM's any more.

Thats OK then because I don't think of you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
 
On Sep 29, 8:50 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

5 years ago in New Zealand, you do cast your net far and wide don't you?
You really should get out more, take up a hobby other than tracking down
every last anti-gun post ever made, learn ballroom dancing or something.
You want to see me in a tutu?

You is one sick puppy...................
 

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