Giant scrolling text in 1945??

[Adrian Tuddenham]

Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:

On 4/22/20 9:18 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
The idea of using something like that to run blinkenlights was novel
enough to patent 20 years later, but it isn't like it sprang forth
from Zeus's brow.

The claw hammer was patented (in the USA) in the early 1900s, yet it was
invented 50+ years prior.

When something is patented is not a good judge of how novel it is / was.

Black patented negative feedback several years after Voigt built
amplifiers using it - and Voigt's push-pull amplifiers were re-invented
and patented by Western Electric.

Western Electric also planned to patent their 45/45 stereo system in the
1950s until it was pointed out to them that Blumlein had already
patented it 20 years earlier.



--
~ Adrian Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

 

[Pimpom]

On 4/23/2020 1:22 PM, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:

How many patents have been granted for perpetual motion machines
during the last century.?

I know of none. Do you have an example?

Anyway there's no need for an invention to work to be patentable.

I read a long time ago that the US patent authority makes an
exception in the case of a perpetual motion machine, requiring
proof that it actually works. I don't remember the source and my
memory could be playing tricks on me, but I don't think so.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2020-04-22, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:

On 4/21/20 12:24 PM, Pimpom wrote:
Sorry, I still say it's not just moving and blinking lights.

Why can't it be just moving and blinking lights?

Why does the glyph that's displayed matter if it's an "A" or a "+"?
Both of them are a matrix of pixels (lights) that are either on or off
in a predefined pattern.

It's a matrix of light points (pixels) that light up individually in
a programmable combination and sequence without the benefit of digital
processing.

Digital isn't needed. Only pure basic DC (or the AC counterpart there
of) circuits is needed. Is the switch open or closed resulting in the
light being off or on (respectively). There's just a bunch of said
switches.

In my first example (copied below), the letter A is 7 pixels wide by 10
pixels tall, thus resulting in 70 pixels.

1234567
x
xxx
xx xx
xx xx
xx xx
xxxxxxx
xx xx
xx xx
xx xx
xx xx
1234567

If you have a sign that's 10 bulbs (pixels) high and 100 bulbs (pixels)
long, you have 1,000 discrete bulbs to control. This can be done with
something as simple as paper tape either allowing conduction through the
hols or not when they are blocked.

As the tape above is drawn through the ""reader, column 1 is turned on
for the right most column.

Delay for a brief period of time.

Pull the tape one more pixel through the reader, column 1 is turned on
for the 2nd from the right column and column 2 is turned on for the
right most column.

Delay for a brief period of time.

Pull the tape one more pixel through the reader....

Delay....

Repeat this process 107 times and the letter A will scroll across the
entire display.

Notice how the only ""processing is a simple binary switch that either
turns the light on, or doesn't. Holes in a paper tape can easily do that.

This is different from showing a series of still images. It would
be easier if the scrolled text was a permanent one meant to run
unchanged for years, but it apparently could be reprogrammed without
too much hassle.

I think pulling a tape through would actually be easier than changing
between still images.

Changing out the old paper tape for a new one with a new set of images
would be about as easy as changing out the film being projected at the
movies.

Obviously the tapes used would have considerably more than one letter on
them. But that's the beauty. The tape is simply a series of holes
punched in the shape of the desired letters / glyphs / symbols / etc.
It is literally a sequence of pixels that are displayed. The tape could
be as long as you want, probably with a minimum length. Some of that
minimum could be blank, all lights off.

If the message is too short for the mechanism, just repeat it until
it's long enough.

--
Jasen.

 

pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote in
news:22474de8-2552-4853-804b-5d440f4402a3@googlegroups.com:

How many patents have been granted for perpetual motion machines
during the last century.?

I know of none. Do you have an example?

Anyway there's no need for an invention to work to be patentable.
Patent law is based on a quid pro quo: teach your invention to the
world, and you get the exclusive right to practice it for 20
years.

If it doesn't work, then nobody could practice it at all anyway,
so no harm, no foul.

The PTO has its problems, but that's not one of them.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I think massive multi-ton stones could be set on teflon slides and
a tower where humans, as an exercise routine, pull ropes to lift the
stone 50 meters in the tower slide, then use the kinetic energy to
drive generators to power things like street lighting and sidewalk
lighting. Just like cuckoo clocks. One could have several slide
towers surrounding specific areas in a city. Put cell nodes up on
top. Use electric to hoist it if folks get lazy or quarantined.

Not in any way claiming perpetual anything here. Just saying that
humans have a lot of juice withtin them that we all let go to waste.
And we know a LOT about 'gravity bobs' in a controlled fall. So it
would be real easy to get something back from our ability to lift a
mass off the ground.

Block and tackle, boys. Tick tock. nick nack paddy whack. Give
this dog his bones.

 

Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:SABnG.13166$tS2.12693
@fx14.ams1:

I saw this on TV twice, possibly on Discovery channel. A crowd
was celebrating the end of WWII in the street and the reason for
jubilation was displayed in giant scrolling text on the side of a
building. Certain factors prevented me from discerning the type
of display used - 1) the part showing the display was brief, 2)
it was an old B&W film, 3) delayed reaction on my part both times.

I've searched for it from time to time without success. It's
unlikely that the technology for a scrolling electronic display
existed then. So what was it? A banner?

BTW I love the photo of a sailor kissing a girl that day. I think
it's one of the great photos of all time.

Bond clothing in New York City had an early scrolling banner. The
earliest as far as I know.

Search bond clothing scrolling banner, and you'll see it in black
and white.

Early pinball machines and times square / 42nd st signs were pretty
fancy with relays and multivibrators. Probably could be deemed as
early single purpose computing units driving them.

Pneumatic logic circuits that used to operate car wash systems were
cool too.

Pretty sure things have evolved since though and a car wash control
panel is a lot less complicated. Actuators have come a long way.

 

Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:38b4e4d3-8ee9-4e2f-8f26-1216a95b98b5@googlegroups.com:

tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 14.23.22 UTC+2 skrev Pimpom:
I saw this on TV twice, possibly on Discovery channel. A crowd
was celebrating the end of WWII in the street and the reason for
jubilation was displayed in giant scrolling text on the side of a
building. Certain factors prevented me from discerning the type
of display used - 1) the part showing the display was brief, 2)
it was an old B&W film, 3) delayed reaction on my part both
times.

I've searched for it from time to time without success. It's
unlikely that the technology for a scrolling electronic display
existed then. So what was it? A banner?

BTW I love the photo of a sailor kissing a girl that day. I think
it's one of the great photos of all time.

as a far as I know the worlds first scrolling electronic sign was
invented by the danish engineer and inventor Viggo Jensen and put
into operation in 1914, it was controlled using paper tape and
mercury

this is from 1939
https://www.danskkulturarv.dk/dr/bt-centralen-og-politikens-hus-lys
avis/

Wow, that is early. Those damned germans! (I am german and
french)

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:64EnG.82706$FY5.63244@fx39.iad:

On 4/21/2020 9:46 AM, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/21/2020 6:26 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 14.23.22 UTC+2 skrev Pimpom:
I saw this on TV twice, possibly on Discovery channel. A crowd
was celebrating the end of WWII in the street and the reason
for jubilation was displayed in giant scrolling text on the
side of a building. Certain factors prevented me from
discerning the type of display used - 1) the part showing the
display was brief, 2) it was an old B&W film, 3) delayed
reaction on my part both times.

I've searched for it from time to time without success. It's
unlikely that the technology for a scrolling electronic display
existed then. So what was it? A banner?

BTW I love the photo of a sailor kissing a girl that day. I
think it's one of the great photos of all time.

as a far as I know the worlds first scrolling electronic sign
was invented
by the danish engineer and inventor Viggo Jensen and put into
operation in 1914, it was controlled using paper tape and
mercury

this is from 1939
https://www.danskkulturarv.dk/dr/bt-centralen-og-politikens-hus-l
ysavis/


Ah, so the technology did exist then. Thanks. I still wish I
could find that particular clip, though.

Check this out, this is some high-quality _color_ film footage
from NYC in the mid-late 1930s!

https://youtu.be/ZpXnEvW0XD0?t=1231

Look at all this animated signage. State-of-the-art hi-tech stuff
at the time.

I liked the "Chevrolet's Octane Selector". I had to go look that
one up.

 

Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:1yEnG.7301$tS4.1325@fx18.ams1:

On 4/21/2020 8:43 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 4/21/2020 9:46 AM, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/21/2020 6:26 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 14.23.22 UTC+2 skrev Pimpom:
I saw this on TV twice, possibly on Discovery channel. A crowd
was celebrating the end of WWII in the street and the reason
for jubilation was displayed in giant scrolling text on the
side of a building. Certain factors prevented me from
discerning the type of display used - 1) the part showing the
display was brief, 2) it was an old B&W film, 3) delayed
reaction on my part both times.

I've searched for it from time to time without success. It's
unlikely that the technology for a scrolling electronic
display existed then. So what was it? A banner?

BTW I love the photo of a sailor kissing a girl that day. I
think it's one of the great photos of all time.

as a far as I know the worlds first scrolling electronic sign
was invented
by the danish engineer and inventor Viggo Jensen and put into
operation in 1914, it was controlled using paper tape and
mercury

this is from 1939
https://www.danskkulturarv.dk/dr/bt-centralen-og-politikens-hus-
lysavis/


Ah, so the technology did exist then. Thanks. I still wish I
could find that particular clip, though.

Check this out, this is some high-quality _color_ film footage
from NYC in the mid-late 1930s!

https://youtu.be/ZpXnEvW0XD0?t=1231

Look at all this animated signage. State-of-the-art hi-tech stuff
at the time.


Amazing. Running lights and switched signs are one thing, running
text requires another level of ingenuity IMO.

Probably fed by teletype or teleprinter. Otherwise, the "print
program" would have to be stored somehow. like punched tape. It is
similar to a player piano or automaton, so getting a sequence of
lights in a singe column to scroll in a right to left 'waterfall'
mode (so as to be read L to R) was probably no mean feat. Then,
there is the actual text input.

Wax on... wax off...

Lights on... lights off...

Iterate.
Yeah, probably not easy and needs a LOT of constantly maintained
wiring. And multivibrators and relays. All turned on by a guy
throwing an open knife switch. Heheheh!

I wonder how many New York Times Square electrical signage workers
got nailed over the years. Probably less than the number that fell
off high rise steel. (some of those were not accidents)

 

Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:m5_nG.71734$6IG.33190
@fx01.ams1:

Being interested in learning how people do something indicates
that there are at least some things one does not know about it.
How else do you interpret it? I never said that George didn't
understand the principles.

I always thought the boys that do the lights for Vegas were something
else. All before they had the current computer controlled systems.

Probably moonlighting skunkworks employees did it as a hobby.

 

Black patented negative feedback several years after Voigt built
amplifiers using it

and Voigt's push-pull amplifiers were re-invented
and patented by Western Electric.

Sometimes stuff gets missed, erpecially back in the all-paper, pre-airmail days.

I tried getting a copy of Voigt's GB231972A, but the UK patent office is still stuck in 1924--you have to send in a form and pay ÂŁ20 for a paper copy.

Makes UK patents easy to miss!

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

George Herold <ggherold@gmail.com> wrote in
news:b90054c5-2cb3-4cf5-8f55-d953fb69b96d@googlegroups.com:

snip

How they did it might be interesting.

George H.

Well duh. That's what *they* said.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-04-23 05:13, Pimpom wrote:

On 4/23/2020 1:22 PM, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
How many patents have been granted for perpetual motion machines
during the last century.?

I know of none. Do you have an example?

Anyway there's no need for an invention to work to be patentable.


I read a long time ago that the US patent authority makes an exception
in the case of a perpetual motion machine, requiring proof that it
actually works. I don't remember the source and my memory could be
playing tricks on me, but I don't think so.

I've heard that too, but haven't seen the actual regulation.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christense]

torsdag den 23. april 2020 kl. 17.46.38 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:

On 2020-04-23 05:13, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/23/2020 1:22 PM, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
How many patents have been granted for perpetual motion machines
during the last century.?

I know of none. Do you have an example?

Anyway there's no need for an invention to work to be patentable.


I read a long time ago that the US patent authority makes an exception
in the case of a perpetual motion machine, requiring proof that it
actually works. I don't remember the source and my memory could be
playing tricks on me, but I don't think so.

I've heard that too, but haven't seen the actual regulation.

not regulation but related ..

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/681/16/1800217/

 

[Pimpom]

On 4/23/2020 9:31 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

torsdag den 23. april 2020 kl. 17.46.38 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
On 2020-04-23 05:13, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/23/2020 1:22 PM, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
How many patents have been granted for perpetual motion machines
during the last century.?

I know of none. Do you have an example?

Anyway there's no need for an invention to work to be patentable.


I read a long time ago that the US patent authority makes an exception
in the case of a perpetual motion machine, requiring proof that it
actually works. I don't remember the source and my memory could be
playing tricks on me, but I don't think so.

I've heard that too, but haven't seen the actual regulation.


not regulation but related ..

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/681/16/1800217/

I haven't read through the whole article yet but I think I got
the gist of it.

My state government occasionally asks me to review applications
for grants for development of claimed inventions. One recurrent
theme is a free energy source - generator powers motor, motor
turns generator - and similar stuff.

One applicant claimed to have designed a bike that could run
without any kind of fuel or energy source. I asked him to come
and see me and he did, but refused to reveal his "secret".

One of the latest requests for scrutiny came from our finance
minister, an old friend of mine. The description went something
like this: Machines like transformers, voltage stabilizers,
inverters, etc. waste power because electrons escape and are
radiated as heat. The proposal was to encase everything in a
mixture of cheap, easily available insulating materials. This
will trap the wayward electrons in the pores of the material and
prevent power loss while also cooling the machine because heat
will no longer be able to escape. It also claimed to put out more
power than what goes in.

 

Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote in
news:r7rsva$av$3@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org:

On 2020-04-22, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
On 4/21/20 12:24 PM, Pimpom wrote:
Sorry, I still say it's not just moving and blinking lights.

Why can't it be just moving and blinking lights?

Why does the glyph that's displayed matter if it's an "A" or a
"+"? Both of them are a matrix of pixels (lights) that are either
on or off in a predefined pattern.

It's a matrix of light points (pixels) that light up
individually in a programmable combination and sequence without
the benefit of digital processing.

Digital isn't needed. Only pure basic DC (or the AC counterpart
there of) circuits is needed. Is the switch open or closed
resulting in the light being off or on (respectively). There's
just a bunch of said switches.

In my first example (copied below), the letter A is 7 pixels wide
by 10 pixels tall, thus resulting in 70 pixels.

1234567
x
xxx
xx xx
xx xx
xx xx
xxxxxxx
xx xx
xx xx
xx xx
xx xx
1234567

If you have a sign that's 10 bulbs (pixels) high and 100 bulbs
(pixels) long, you have 1,000 discrete bulbs to control. This
can be done with something as simple as paper tape either
allowing conduction through the hols or not when they are
blocked.

As the tape above is drawn through the ""reader, column 1 is
turned on for the right most column.

Delay for a brief period of time.

Pull the tape one more pixel through the reader, column 1 is
turned on for the 2nd from the right column and column 2 is
turned on for the right most column.

Delay for a brief period of time.

Pull the tape one more pixel through the reader....

Delay....

Repeat this process 107 times and the letter A will scroll across
the entire display.

Notice how the only ""processing is a simple binary switch that
either turns the light on, or doesn't. Holes in a paper tape can
easily do that.

This is different from showing a series of still images. It
would be easier if the scrolled text was a permanent one meant
to run unchanged for years, but it apparently could be
reprogrammed without too much hassle.

I think pulling a tape through would actually be easier than
changing between still images.

Changing out the old paper tape for a new one with a new set of
images would be about as easy as changing out the film being
projected at the movies.

Obviously the tapes used would have considerably more than one
letter on them. But that's the beauty. The tape is simply a
series of holes punched in the shape of the desired letters /
glyphs / symbols / etc. It is literally a sequence of pixels that
are displayed. The tape could be as long as you want, probably
with a minimum length. Some of that minimum could be blank, all
lights off.

If the message is too short for the mechanism, just repeat it
until it's long enough.

From what I could count on the Times square sign was 14 tall by 11
wide per character and it used the full height so no supers or subs.

I am surprised that I cannot find anything on it. Friggin'
elevators got more respect than that sign did.

 

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:r7s6o9$14uo$1
@gioia.aioe.org:

Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:1yEnG.7301$tS4.1325@fx18.ams1:

On 4/21/2020 8:43 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 4/21/2020 9:46 AM, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/21/2020 6:26 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 14.23.22 UTC+2 skrev Pimpom:
I saw this on TV twice, possibly on Discovery channel. A crowd
was celebrating the end of WWII in the street and the reason
for jubilation was displayed in giant scrolling text on the
side of a building. Certain factors prevented me from
discerning the type of display used - 1) the part showing the
display was brief, 2) it was an old B&W film, 3) delayed
reaction on my part both times.

I've searched for it from time to time without success. It's
unlikely that the technology for a scrolling electronic
display existed then. So what was it? A banner?

BTW I love the photo of a sailor kissing a girl that day. I
think it's one of the great photos of all time.

as a far as I know the worlds first scrolling electronic sign
was invented
by the danish engineer and inventor Viggo Jensen and put into
operation in 1914, it was controlled using paper tape and
mercury

this is from 1939
https://www.danskkulturarv.dk/dr/bt-centralen-og-politikens-
hus-
lysavis/


Ah, so the technology did exist then. Thanks. I still wish I
could find that particular clip, though.

Check this out, this is some high-quality _color_ film footage
from NYC in the mid-late 1930s!

https://youtu.be/ZpXnEvW0XD0?t=1231

Look at all this animated signage. State-of-the-art hi-tech stuff
at the time.


Amazing. Running lights and switched signs are one thing, running
text requires another level of ingenuity IMO.


Probably fed by teletype or teleprinter. Otherwise, the "print
program" would have to be stored somehow. like punched tape. It is
similar to a player piano or automaton, so getting a sequence of
lights in a singe column to scroll in a right to left 'waterfall'
mode (so as to be read L to R) was probably no mean feat. Then,
there is the actual text input.

Wax on... wax off...

Lights on... lights off...

Iterate.
Yeah, probably not easy and needs a LOT of constantly maintained
wiring. And multivibrators and relays. All turned on by a guy
throwing an open knife switch. Heheheh!

I wonder how many New York Times Square electrical signage
workers
got nailed over the years. Probably less than the number that fell
off high rise steel. (some of those were not accidents)

Big change moving to this...

Times Square New York City
<https://tinyurl.com/ycnvo38o>

 

[Pimpom]

On 4/23/2020 4:30 AM, Grant Taylor wrote:

On 4/22/20 10:16 AM, Pimpom wrote:
What you just described is basically what digital processing is about -
complex combinations of yes/no, one/zero, on/off.

I disagree. I believe that processing requires more than turning
something on or off. Sure, digital processing works by doing exactly
that. But digital processing is so much more than that.

Processing in this context would be taking a relatively simple code from
a then common stock ticker tape and translating each code to the pattern
of lights needed to be turned on to represent that code. Expound that
for many additional codes / letters. Then expound that even further by
moving that derived pattern through each of the steps of the display.
That would be (digital) processing. (I suspect it's possible to do it
mechanically too, but extremely mechanically complex.)

Compare that type of processing to pulling a paper tape through a series
of electrical contacts / switches.

I expect that FAR MANY MORE people could understand pulling the tape
through switches compared to understanding the mechanics involved to
decode a character on a ticker tape to letters on a sign.

Yes, the electrical switch was not new then, but could the average
person with no prior knowledge except how an electric switch works have
thought up their applications like the Jacquard loom, scrolling text
or other complex applications? Coming up with ideas that most other
intelligent persons would not have is what makes the idea innovative.

Could someone that understood the basic concept of a switch and a
Jacquard loom deduce the concept of controlling the switch with a loom
~> paper tape? Quite likely. The devil is going to be in the details
of how it is done.

Most high school students that have passed basic physics can explain
that an internal combustion engine is a controlled explosion directing
the force and converting it into rotational motion which is transferred
to the wheels. The nuances of how that is done is much more
problematic. Yet there are still many high school students that can do it.

This is becoming tiresome. To sum up, I think designing a
practical scrolling text display 80+ years ago was ingenious. You
say it isn't. You're entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine.
So let's agree to disagree and leave it at that, OK?

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-04-23 12:01, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

torsdag den 23. april 2020 kl. 17.46.38 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
On 2020-04-23 05:13, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/23/2020 1:22 PM, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
How many patents have been granted for perpetual motion machines
during the last century.?

I know of none. Do you have an example?

Anyway there's no need for an invention to work to be patentable.


I read a long time ago that the US patent authority makes an exception
in the case of a perpetual motion machine, requiring proof that it
actually works. I don't remember the source and my memory could be
playing tricks on me, but I don't think so.

I've heard that too, but haven't seen the actual regulation.


not regulation but related ..

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/681/16/1800217/

Fun. I had a couple of expert cases involving one Dr. Aleksandr Yufa,
the original crazy Russian, who kept losing and tried to take it all the
way to the Supreme Court, while _representing himself_.

<https://electrooptical.net/News/yufa-v-lockheed-martin/>

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-04-23 12:54, Pimpom wrote:

On 4/23/2020 9:31 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
torsdag den 23. april 2020 kl. 17.46.38 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
On 2020-04-23 05:13, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/23/2020 1:22 PM, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
How many patents have been granted for perpetual motion machines
during the last century.?

I know of none. Do you have an example?

Anyway there's no need for an invention to work to be patentable.


I read a long time ago that the US patent authority makes an exception
in the case of a perpetual motion machine, requiring proof that it
actually works. I don't remember the source and my memory could be
playing tricks on me, but I don't think so.

I've heard that too, but haven't seen the actual regulation.


not regulation but related ..

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/681/16/1800217/



I haven't read through the whole article yet but I think I got the gist
of it.

My state government occasionally asks me to review applications for
grants for development of claimed inventions. One recurrent theme is a
free energy source - generator powers motor, motor turns generator - and
similar stuff.

One applicant claimed to have designed a bike that could run without any
kind of fuel or energy source. I asked him to come and see me and he
did, but refused to reveal his "secret".

One of the latest requests for scrutiny came from our finance minister,
an old friend of mine. The description went something like this:
Machines like transformers, voltage stabilizers, inverters, etc. waste
power because electrons escape and are radiated as heat. The proposal
was to encase everything in a mixture of cheap, easily available
insulating materials. This will trap the wayward electrons in the pores
of the material and prevent power loss while also cooling the machine
because heat will no longer be able to escape. It also claimed to put
out more power than what goes in.

It will, too, when the transformer catches fire.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


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Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Grant Taylor]

On 4/23/20 11:13 AM, Pimpom wrote:

This is becoming tiresome. To sum up, I think designing a practical
scrolling text display 80+ years ago was ingenious. You say it isn't.
You're entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine.

I believe you misunderstand me.

I'm saying it wouldn't be too difficult. I'm also saying that it
wouldn't take any sort of digital processing (to convert one code to a
different light pattern).

I completely agree that it was novel and hadn't been seen before.

But I don't think it was difficult.

> So let's agree to disagree and leave it at that, OK?

Sure.



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