Ford eating its own to feed EVs...

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 05:03:11 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI
spamme@not.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

China is building about one coal-fired power plant per week. Japan is
building new coal plants. Germany is un-retiring coal plants. India
has 39 coal power plants under construction. Africa wants electricity
too.

What does that have to do with conversion to EV\'s.

Our mandating electric cars, saving a bit of CO2 generation, is
expensive symbolism. Plenty of other countries will burn the oil and
coal and NG that we don\'t want. And sell us batteries and solar panels
built with slave labor.

CO2 does not respect national boundaries. Not even the city limits of
Berkely CA.

I don\'t understand your reference to Berkely. Neither of us live there.

Transitioning to renewable energy will save the world $18 trillion dollars.

Transportation is one of the largest contributors to CO2 and pollution.

EV\'s emit no CO2. The largest contributor to CO2 during battery
manufacturing is refining lithium since it requires heating in kilns at
over 1,000 degrees. Australian researchers have found a simple method of
processing ore that does not require kilns and is much cheaper.

Europe needs coal right now due to Putin shutting off oil and gas. However,
Europe is transitioning to LNG and renewables for its energy needs.

China is building about one coal-fired power plant per week. They have
alloted a finite number of plants to fill a gap in their energy grid and
will stop when this is reached.

All these countries are building coal plants to fill an immediate need.
They all have committed to reducing and eliminating fossil fuels and will
stop when the current energy crisis is over.

Solar panels are high tech, similar to manufacturing CPU\'s. They are not
made with slave labor.

EV batteries are high tech. They are not made with slave labor.

China is developing Thorium Molten Salt Reactors and will own all the
patents so they can sell the technology to the rest of the world. Molten
salt was invented in Oak Ridge.

California has reached 100% of energy need filled by renewables. It has
recently passed a law that new homes must stop using gas for heating by a
certain date.

Links on request.



--
MRM
 
On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 1:52:09 AM UTC-7, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 05:03:11 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI
spa...@not.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

China is building about one coal-fired power plant per week. Japan is
building new coal plants. Germany is un-retiring coal plants. India
has 39 coal power plants under construction. Africa wants electricity
too.

What does that have to do with conversion to EV\'s.

Our mandating electric cars, saving a bit of CO2 generation, is
expensive symbolism. Plenty of other countries will burn the oil and
coal and NG that we don\'t want. And sell us batteries and solar panels
built with slave labor.

CO2 does not respect national boundaries. Not even the city limits of
Berkely CA.
I don\'t understand your reference to Berkely. Neither of us live there.

Transitioning to renewable energy will save the world $18 trillion dollars.

Transportation is one of the largest contributors to CO2 and pollution.

EV\'s emit no CO2. The largest contributor to CO2 during battery
manufacturing is refining lithium since it requires heating in kilns at
over 1,000 degrees. Australian researchers have found a simple method of
processing ore that does not require kilns and is much cheaper.

Europe needs coal right now due to Putin shutting off oil and gas. However,
Europe is transitioning to LNG and renewables for its energy needs.

China is building about one coal-fired power plant per week. They have
alloted a finite number of plants to fill a gap in their energy grid and
will stop when this is reached.

All these countries are building coal plants to fill an immediate need.
They all have committed to reducing and eliminating fossil fuels and will
stop when the current energy crisis is over.

Solar panels are high tech, similar to manufacturing CPU\'s. They are not
made with slave labor.

EV batteries are high tech. They are not made with slave labor.

China is developing Thorium Molten Salt Reactors and will own all the
patents so they can sell the technology to the rest of the world. Molten
salt was invented in Oak Ridge.

California has reached 100% of energy need filled by renewables. It has
recently passed a law that new homes must stop using gas for heating by a
certain date.

Links on request.



--
MRM

Yes, please do provide those links.
 
On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 3:22:43 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 11:23:26 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 4:40:43 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 7:09:51 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 11:40:59 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 9:58:49 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 2:03:50 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 11:45:04 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:15:31 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 10:58:17 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 3:38:42 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 9:38:56 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 2:13:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 9:07:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 8:38:24 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 12:43:08 PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 09:43:41 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

You lose ALL CREDIBILITY with this kind of sleazy dodging. Recommendation: that you actually RESEARCH your screwball claims BEFORE making them!!!

Oh, I do. There\'s nothing screwball about my claims. What\'s screwball is your devotion to propagating fatuous nonsense.

No, you DON\'T - you NEVER back up your claims, even after REPEATED REQUESTS!!!

You never admit that I\'ve backed up my claims, which isn\'t the same thing at all. You just find some sleazy and idiotic objection to the evidence, and refuse to take it seriously.

There you go AGAIN - refusing to answer the question. You can\'t answer it because it DOESN\'T EXIST (except in your demented mind).

What question did you think you were asking?

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Bil Sloman, Sydney
 

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