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So we go from something we can measure to something we can not with allSeems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
That does it! - I'm voting UKIP at the MEP elections on the 4th of nextSeems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1187175/So-watts-lumen-The-EUs-bright-idea-rename-light-bulbs.html
Although in the context of light bulbs, the quantity you could measureOn Wed, 27 May 2009 18:28:00 +1000, The Real Andy wrote:
Seems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
So we go from something we can measure to something we can not with all
the credibility of a Standard and Poors credit rating. Brilliant, just
brilliant.
By law AIUI, watts must still be stated.Seems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1187175/So-watts-lumen-The-EUs-bright-idea-rename-light-bulbs.html
Lumens of light output are what matter. The power INPUT in watts is aOn Wed, 27 May 2009 18:28:00 +1000, The Real Andy wrote:
Seems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
So we go from something we can measure to something we can not with all
the credibility of a Standard and Poors credit rating. Brilliant, just
brilliant.
Lumens are are a UK ( SI ) measurement. Lumens actually tell you how bright the light is."The Real Andy" <therealandy@nospam.com> wrote
Seems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1187175/So-watts-lumen-The-EUs-bright-idea-rename-light-bulbs.html
That does it! - I'm voting UKIP at the MEP elections on the 4th of next
month.
Surely BOTH are important measures of completely different properties.Seems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
"The Real Andy" <therealandy@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Seems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
Surely BOTH are important measures of completely different properties.
MrT.
Both measurements are handy so you can compare efficiency with other brands
I want to see both Watts and lumens on the label as I want to know the lightSeems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1187175/So-watts-lumen-The-EUs-bright-idea-rename-light-bulbs.html
In the long term, lumens is a good idea, especially as emerging technologiesian field wrote:
"The Real Andy" <therealandy@nospam.com> wrote
Seems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1187175/So-watts-lumen-The-EUs-bright-idea-rename-light-bulbs.html
That does it! - I'm voting UKIP at the MEP elections on the 4th of next
month.
Lumens are are a UK ( SI ) measurement. Lumens actually tell you how
bright the light is.
Easy! - we pay the EU Ł40M *A DAY* and all we get in return is a flood ofFind a better reason to vote UKIP, it's not hard.
Graham
well, not only! You can have any output of lumens if you input enoughterryc wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 18:28:00 +1000, The Real Andy wrote:
Seems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
So we go from something we can measure to something we can not with all
the credibility of a Standard and Poors credit rating. Brilliant, just
brilliant.
Lumens of light output are what matter. The power INPUT in watts is a
worthless measure aside from judging your electricity bill.
Graham
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Explain exactly which natural unit they are and how you measure them?Although in the context of light bulbs, the quantity you could measure
wasn't terribly useful. At least lumens is a measure of how bright the
bulb will appear to be.
Anyway, it's not impossible to measure lumens.
Well, you have made the statement. Back it up with exactly whuch naturalLumens of light output are what matter. The power INPUT in watts is a
worthless measure aside from judging your electricity bill.
Apart from being a contrived measure, what are they?Lumens are are a UK ( SI ) measurement.
Nope, they do not.Lumens actually tell you how bright the light is.
**A measure of the percieved power of the light source.On Thu, 28 May 2009 02:26:04 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
Lumens are are a UK ( SI ) measurement.
Apart from being a contrived measure, what are they?
**They kinda do. Naturally, the best way is to provide Lumens/Watt data forLumens actually tell you how bright the light is.
Nope, they do not.
**Three years ago, I replaced the 75 Watt, mirror back lamps (average life -"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notmail.com> wrote in message
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ian field wrote:
"The Real Andy" <therealandy@nospam.com> wrote
Seems the europeans have finally had the bright idea of using lumens
instead of watts for the classification of light bulbs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1187175/So-watts-lumen-The-EUs-bright-idea-rename-light-bulbs.html
That does it! - I'm voting UKIP at the MEP elections on the 4th of next
month.
Lumens are are a UK ( SI ) measurement. Lumens actually tell you how
bright the light is.
In the long term, lumens is a good idea, especially as emerging
technologies mature. My point is that Joe public has already been misled
by comparing a 20W CFL to a 100W "soft tone" - it certainly isn't equal to
a standard 100W incandescent, so there is already widespread mistrust,
adding a new measure will only further muddy the water.
And of course no-one is interested in that are they!The power INPUT in watts is a
worthless measure aside from judging your electricity bill.
Although in the context of light bulbs, the quantity you could measure
wasn't terribly useful. At least lumens is a measure of how bright the
bulb will appear to be.
Anyway, it's not impossible to measure lumens.
Explain exactly which natural unit they are and how you measure them?
Anyone stupid enough to bet that Sylvia will not, once again, side step
the question?>.
Lumens of light output are what matter.
Well, you have made the statement. Back it up with exactly whuch natural
unit is a lumen and how do you build a circuit to measure them?