Et tu - Trevor Wilson ??

[John - Melb]

On Oct 27, 9:58 am, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

**How so? Are you saying that, because I place my faith in facts, figures
and science, that I am, somehow, brain damaged? Is that your contention?
Should I, for instance, place my faith in religion, the NRA and the fossil
fuel lobbyists instead? Please elaborate. I'll stick with the facts, 'till
proven otherwise thanks very much.

I wouldn't say you're brain damaged at all Trevor, I'm not medically
qualified to do so.

I do have concerns about your apparent lack cognitive skills and
alledged inability to understand simple discussion.

I feel your repeated use of forums like aus.hi-fi, rec.audio.opinion
and now aus.electronics to launch your tirades is indicative of the
complete contempt you hold for your fellow person and may be a result
of your cognitive failings. I have previously noted such apparent
arrogance in those of limited cognitive ability.

This is also demonstrated by you apparent desire to speak for
everybody.

FYI: I am (relatively) lead-free and have been so for more than 15 years (my
blood lead level is lower than an average Sydney resident). How about you?
What is your lead level? When was it last tested?

Going some of what you've written, I suggest the damage may have

already been done.

I'd also like to know by what authority you ask for the medical
details of others, you're not medically qualified to ask such
questions.

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[Trevor Wilson]

"Bob Larter" <bobbylarter@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Trevor,
I have kill-filed "John - Melb" because I got tired of his idiotic,
off-topic posts about guns.
It'd be good if you did the same rather than helping him mess up the group
by replying to him.

**My apologies to you and the group for responding to his deranged
pollution. I will attempt more restraint in future.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Bob Larter]

Trevor,
I have kill-filed "John - Melb" because I got tired of his idiotic,
off-topic posts about guns.
It'd be good if you did the same rather than helping him mess up the
group by replying to him.



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\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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[John - Melb]

On Oct 27, 4:00 pm, Bob Larter <bobbylar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor,
I have kill-filed "John - Melb" because I got tired of his idiotic,
off-topic posts about guns.
It'd be good if you did the same rather than helping him mess up the
group by replying to him.

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    W
  . | ,. w ,   "Some people are alive only because
   \|/  \|/     it is illegal to kill them."    Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

But you never challenged Trevor when he posted his off topic anti-gun
rants on the same forum?

Interesting?

 

[John - Melb]

On Oct 27, 3:11 pm, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

"Bob Larter" <bobbylar...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:hc5r3b$jcb$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...

Trevor,
I have kill-filed "John - Melb" because I got tired of his idiotic,
off-topic posts about guns.
It'd be good if you did the same rather than helping him mess up the group
by replying to him.

**My apologies to you and the group for responding to his deranged
pollution. I will attempt more restraint in future.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

We could be that lucky!

 

[Nik Rim]

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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"Bob Larter" <bobbylarter@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hc5r3b$jcb$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
Trevor,
I have kill-filed "John - Melb" because I got tired of his idiotic,
off-topic posts about guns.
It'd be good if you did the same rather than helping him mess up the
group by replying to him.

**My apologies to you and the group for responding to his deranged
pollution. I will attempt more restraint in future.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Good idea Trevor - I've also kill-filed him and only see his crap when
others reply to him. Ignore him & hopefully he'll get bored.....

 

[John - Melb]

On Oct 26, 2:47 pm, John - Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 26, 12:10 pm, "Trevor Wilson"





tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
"John - Melb" <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1fae717c-a4d4-440f-90d3-5b80c37212fc@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 26, 11:29 am, "Trevor Wilson"

tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
Please cite my alleged "anti-gun rants" on aus.electronics.

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On Jun 16, 3:21 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**Despite the fact that VASTLY more Americans carry guns around the
streets,
legally, the US remains the most dangerous, deadly Western, developed
Democratic nations. Carrying guns achieves, at best, nothing. At worst, it
leads to more violence and death. In fact, the US homicide rate is
presently
3 times the Australian one.

**Idiot. I posted a fact. Nothing "anti-gun" there.

Really CITE?





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On Jun 18, 12:54 pm, "Trevor Wilson"

tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
**Yes. Easily. Across the US, each year, there are hundreds of 'gun
shows'.
At these 'gun shows' dealers, posing as private citizens sell thousands of
guns to criminals. They can do so, because there are virtually zero
restrictions on the sale of 'second hand' guns. Even if that gun has only
been 'second hand' for a couple of minutes and has never been fired. Here
in
Australia (and pretty much the rest of the developed world) ALL gun sales
must be recorded and tracked. Even secondary sales. Such an action ensures
that fewer guns end up in the hands of criminals.

**Again. More facts. Nothing "anti-gun" there.

Really CITE?

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On Jun 18, 3:40 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**Oh yeah: Two more things:
* If I was to crosspost (which I never do) I would never involve those
psychopaths in the talk.politics.guns group with normal humans.

**Yep. They ARE psychos. No doubt about it. Nothing "anti-gun" there.

Really CITE?







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On Jun 17, 9:40 am, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
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**The figures for people legitemately shooting alleged criminals (I say
alleged, because in places like Texas, it would seem that the authorites
are
now prepared to accept the word of the 'last man standing', as to the
legitemacy of the shooting) are miniscule in the extreme. FBI figures show
that, in the US, something like 400-odd people are shot and killed by
police
in so-called 'justifiable homicide' acts each year. This figure needs to
be
examined in the same light as the number killed by civilians in similar
circumstances. The figure for civilians is approximately 230 PA. That
figure
needs to be tempered by the inadequacies of the laws in places like Texas,
where lip service is paid by LEOs under many circumstances. Additionally,
one must bear in mind that the number of civilians killed by gunshot each
year in the US is approximately 10,000. Clearly, carrying guns for self
defence purposes is a failed experiment. It is an experiment that many of
the nutters in the pro-gun lobby, here in Australia, wish to duplicate.
These are the same individuals who seem to feel that shooting native ducks
and other indigenous critters is, somehow, sporting. They seem to consider
that the indiscriminate spraying of lead shot into pristine environments,
whilst causing the needless suffering of wild animals is all in a good
cause.

**More facts. Nothing "anti-gun" there.

Really CITE?



So, if we understand you correctly, this is your claim (since you
steadfastly refuse to clarify your words):

Anyone who posts facts and figures about gun ownership or gun related
violence, is automatically engaged in an "anti-gun rant". Is that about it?
What you are therefore suggesting is that we should all pretend that,
although SOME gun owners have serious problems, we should let it slide.
Sorry. It's not going to happen. SOME gun owners should NEVER have access to
firearms.

Nup, never said that.



You, fundamentally, have a problem with the truth. I can understand that,
given your pathology.

Seek help urgently.

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still waiting for you cites Trevor?

 

[terryc]

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:35:01 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

where It demonstrated, with absolutely clarity, just how banal
Australian gun control laws are/were.

Right On, criminals always obey the law.

**The fuckwit who pointed a gun at me was a legal, licensed owner.

And the reason for them pointing the gun at you was?

And
further: You are wrong. One nutter with a gun can and has caused
enormous problems for a large number of people.

Apart from MB, who ?

**In Australia? Try:
* Julian Knight (Hoddle Street Massacre)

In the big picture, the above two, being highest death toll, are really
insignificant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disasters_in_Australia_by_death_toll

I really think there are far more deadly activities to worry about than a
lone nutter with a gun.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/
Products/9982A795F3C13BE2CA25757C001EF4D9?opendocument

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:35:01 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:


where It demonstrated, with absolutely clarity, just how banal
Australian gun control laws are/were.

Right On, criminals always obey the law.

**The fuckwit who pointed a gun at me was a legal, licensed owner.

And the reason for them pointing the gun at you was?

**6th Form (Year 12) break-up. The idiot was a security guard, who should
NEVER have been carrying a firearm. He was far too young and inexperienced.

And
further: You are wrong. One nutter with a gun can and has caused
enormous problems for a large number of people.

Apart from MB, who ?

**In Australia? Try:
* Julian Knight (Hoddle Street Massacre)

In the big picture, the above two, being highest death toll, are really
insignificant.

**Not to the relatives of the dead. And how about this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Chang

His murder affected many thousands of Australians, both directly and
indirectly. Chang was Australia's pre-eminent heart surgeon and was in the
middle of his teaching career when he was shot.

You cannot predict what damage is caused when a person is murdered. We KNOW
the contribution made by Chang, before his death. His potential contribution
to Australian society could have run into many billions of Dollars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disasters_in_Australia_by_death_toll

I really think there are far more deadly activities to worry about than a
lone nutter with a gun.

**Not under dispute. Many more people die from heart disease, than are
killed by drunk drivers. Are you suggesting that we ignore drunk drivers,
because they kill fewer people than heart disease?


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[F Murtz]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:35:01 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:


where It demonstrated, with absolutely clarity, just how banal
Australian gun control laws are/were.
Right On, criminals always obey the law.
**The fuckwit who pointed a gun at me was a legal, licensed owner.
And the reason for them pointing the gun at you was?

**6th Form (Year 12) break-up. The idiot was a security guard, who should
NEVER have been carrying a firearm. He was far too young and inexperienced.


And
further: You are wrong. One nutter with a gun can and has caused
enormous problems for a large number of people.
Apart from MB, who ?
**In Australia? Try:
* Julian Knight (Hoddle Street Massacre)
In the big picture, the above two, being highest death toll, are really
insignificant.

**Not to the relatives of the dead. And how about this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Chang

His murder affected many thousands of Australians, both directly and
indirectly. Chang was Australia's pre-eminent heart surgeon and was in the
middle of his teaching career when he was shot.

Why on earth would you use victor chang's death as an example.Do you
really think that if guns did not exist it would have made any
difference,he was killed by a criminal after money who would just use a
different weapon.
He definitely was not "some nutter with a gun" in the sense that you are
trying to show.

You cannot predict what damage is caused when a person is murdered. We KNOW
the contribution made by Chang, before his death. His potential contribution
to Australian society could have run into many billions of Dollars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disasters_in_Australia_by_death_toll

I really think there are far more deadly activities to worry about than a
lone nutter with a gun.

**Not under dispute. Many more people die from heart disease, than are
killed by drunk drivers. Are you suggesting that we ignore drunk drivers,
because they kill fewer people than heart disease?

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:35:01 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:


where It demonstrated, with absolutely clarity, just how banal
Australian gun control laws are/were.
Right On, criminals always obey the law.
**The fuckwit who pointed a gun at me was a legal, licensed owner.
And the reason for them pointing the gun at you was?

**6th Form (Year 12) break-up. The idiot was a security guard, who should
NEVER have been carrying a firearm. He was far too young and
inexperienced.


And
further: You are wrong. One nutter with a gun can and has caused
enormous problems for a large number of people.
Apart from MB, who ?
**In Australia? Try:
* Julian Knight (Hoddle Street Massacre)
In the big picture, the above two, being highest death toll, are really
insignificant.

**Not to the relatives of the dead. And how about this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Chang

His murder affected many thousands of Australians, both directly and
indirectly. Chang was Australia's pre-eminent heart surgeon and was in
the middle of his teaching career when he was shot.

Why on earth would you use victor chang's death as an example.

**He was shot to death. Study some history, before you make an idiot of
yourself in future.

Do you

really think that if guns did not exist it would have made any
difference,he was killed by a criminal after money who would just use a
different weapon.

**He was shot to death. Study some history, before you make an idiot of
yourself in future. Your attempts at revisionist history, notwithstanding.

He definitely was not "some nutter with a gun" in the sense that you are
trying to show.

**Am I? Do tell. YOU tell us all what I am trying to say. Take as much space
as you need. Use the space between your ears for a start.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[F Murtz]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:hc64dm$1rr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:35:01 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:


where It demonstrated, with absolutely clarity, just how banal
Australian gun control laws are/were.
Right On, criminals always obey the law.
**The fuckwit who pointed a gun at me was a legal, licensed owner.
And the reason for them pointing the gun at you was?
**6th Form (Year 12) break-up. The idiot was a security guard, who should
NEVER have been carrying a firearm. He was far too young and
inexperienced.

And
further: You are wrong. One nutter with a gun can and has caused
enormous problems for a large number of people.
Apart from MB, who ?
**In Australia? Try:
* Julian Knight (Hoddle Street Massacre)
In the big picture, the above two, being highest death toll, are really
insignificant.
**Not to the relatives of the dead. And how about this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Chang

His murder affected many thousands of Australians, both directly and
indirectly. Chang was Australia's pre-eminent heart surgeon and was in
the middle of his teaching career when he was shot.
Why on earth would you use victor chang's death as an example.

**He was shot to death. Study some history, before you make an idiot of
yourself in future.

Do you
really think that if guns did not exist it would have made any
difference,he was killed by a criminal after money who would just use a
different weapon.

**He was shot to death. Study some history, before you make an idiot of
yourself in future. Your attempts at revisionist history, notwithstanding.

He definitely was not "some nutter with a gun" in the sense that you are
trying to show.

**Am I? Do tell. YOU tell us all what I am trying to say. Take as much space
as you need. Use the space between your ears for a start.


I know full well that he was shot It was just a stupid example to be

used in the context of the discussion.

 

[APR]

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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"I am confident in speaking for everyone here,"

It's not confidence Trevor, it's arrogance!

 

[terryc]

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:13:08 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

And the reason for them pointing the gun at you was?

**6th Form (Year 12) break-up. The idiot was a security guard, who
should NEVER have been carrying a firearm. He was far too young and
inexperienced.

Really? That would be simply inadequate training. OTOH, Some Yr12 break
ups are a major community menace.

 

[APR]

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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Please describe fully and completely what an "anti-gun rant" is.

Trevor, it's the shit that typically comes out of your mouth whenever you
have anything to say about gun owners. It emcompasses the
insinuation/innuendo you so readily infer.

 

[terryc]

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:40:21 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

Use the space between your ears for a start.

Pot, Kettle, Black.
You truly have an empty life.

 

[Bob Larter]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Bob Larter" <bobbylarter@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Trevor,
I have kill-filed "John - Melb" because I got tired of his idiotic,
off-topic posts about guns.
It'd be good if you did the same rather than helping him mess up the group
by replying to him.

**My apologies to you and the group for responding to his deranged
pollution. I will attempt more restraint in future.

Thanks Trevor.

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. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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[Grid Leak]

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"Trevor Wilson"


Welp..... that explains John-Melb's in a nutshell: poisoned and a
poisonous mess.

**Of course. Lead poisoning is a possible explanation for his particular
pathology.


** TW is speaking from deep personal experience here.

Cos TW was diagnosed with serious lead poisoning some years ago.

There was an item about it, from TW himself, in the old EA magazine's
"Forum" pages.

Lead poisoning, the resultant illnesses including MADNESS brought down
the Roman Empire.

Et tu - Trevor Wilson ??

**All true. I still have my blood lead levels regularly tested. Do you?

FWIW: My lead level is now below that of an average Sydney resident. Is
yours?

ANYONE who works with lead products should do themselves a huge favour and
be tested regularly. That includes shooters, people wo work with lead
solder and other lead products.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Have been inhaling lead solder fumes since 1957on a daily basis, before that

played with lead soldiers, lead toy cars etc. etc. etc -
Lived in a country where lead is added to the petrol for 50 yrs and have
been a car enthusiast and all that goes with it for almost as many years,
still soldering away at 65 yrs of age, only problem I am experienceing is
that I cannot down as many Scotch + Soda as I used to.
So I have decided to use only RHOS (or is it ROHS?) solder from now on in
the hope that it will increase my Scotch tolerance.
As for lead absorbtion, me and mental illness, well you'll have to speak to
my wife about that!?




Still going str