Et tu - Trevor Wilson ??

[John - Melb]

On Oct 26, 11:29 am, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**Then I'll ask you once more:

Please describe fully and completely what an "anti-gun rant" is.

OK, Trevor, I accept that your reduced cognitive skills arising from
your illness means you have trouble remembering things.

An anti-gun rant is something posted by an anti-gun zealot.

An anti-gun zealot is the sort of person who comes on Usenet and post
garbage like this

On Aug 18, 9:22 am, "Trevor Wilson"

<trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**LOL! You're trying logic and reason with delusional and extremely
paranoid
individuals. It won't work. Gun huggers will remain gun huggers. Those of
us
with some intellect will go about our lives, secure in the knowledge that
carrying a gun for security is a waste of time.

An anti-gun zealot is the sort of person who posts anti-gun dribble
on gun groups and gets soundly spanked, so runs away to groups like
aus.hi-fi, aus'electronics and rec.audio.opinion and posts anti gun
and anti-gun owner
drible there.
-----------------------------------------------------
An example of your anti-gun ways is the diatribe you have launched
against what you describe as "gun huggers" on these pages times
without count.

You are an anti-gun zealot because of these rants. Do you deny
writing
the quote above? Do you deny posting your comments re. what you
describe as "gun huggers" on rec.audio.opiion and aus.hi-fi?

Please cite my alleged "anti-gun rants" on aus.electronics.
To follow.

 

[John - Melb]

On Oct 26, 11:29 am, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

Please cite my alleged "anti-gun rants" on aus.electronics.

-------------------------------------------
On Jun 16, 3:21 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

**Despite the fact that VASTLY more Americans carry guns around the streets,
legally, the US remains the most dangerous, deadly Western, developed
Democratic nations. Carrying guns achieves, at best, nothing. At worst, it
leads to more violence and death. In fact, the US homicide rate is presently
3 times the Australian one.

------------------------------------------------------------

On Jun 18, 12:54 pm, "Trevor Wilson"



<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**Yes. Easily. Across the US, each year, there are hundreds of 'gun shows'.
At these 'gun shows' dealers, posing as private citizens sell thousands of
guns to criminals. They can do so, because there are virtually zero
restrictions on the sale of 'second hand' guns. Even if that gun has only
been 'second hand' for a couple of minutes and has never been fired. Here in
Australia (and pretty much the rest of the developed world) ALL gun sales
must be recorded and tracked. Even secondary sales. Such an action ensures
that fewer guns end up in the hands of criminals.

----------------------------------------------------
On Jun 18, 3:40 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

**Oh yeah: Two more things:
* If I was to crosspost (which I never do) I would never involve those
psychopaths in the talk.politics.guns group with normal humans.

-------------------------------------------------
On Jun 17, 9:40 am, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:



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**The figures for people legitemately shooting alleged criminals (I say
alleged, because in places like Texas, it would seem that the authorites are
now prepared to accept the word of the 'last man standing', as to the
legitemacy of the shooting) are miniscule in the extreme. FBI figures show
that, in the US, something like 400-odd people are shot and killed by police
in so-called 'justifiable homicide' acts each year. This figure needs to be
examined in the same light as the number killed by civilians in similar
circumstances. The figure for civilians is approximately 230 PA. That figure
needs to be tempered by the inadequacies of the laws in places like Texas,
where lip service is paid by LEOs under many circumstances. Additionally,
one must bear in mind that the number of civilians killed by gunshot each
year in the US is approximately 10,000. Clearly, carrying guns for self
defence purposes is a failed experiment. It is an experiment that many of
the nutters in the pro-gun lobby, here in Australia, wish to duplicate.
These are the same individuals who seem to feel that shooting native ducks
and other indigenous critters is, somehow, sporting. They seem to consider
that the indiscriminate spraying of lead shot into pristine environments,
whilst causing the needless suffering of wild animals is all in a good
cause.

 

[John - Melb]

On Oct 26, 12:00 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
<SNIP>

Trevor, go and take your medication, your confusion is showing again.

 

[Dyna Soar]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Dyna Soar" wrote ...
Trevor Wilson wrote:

None of us here has any idea what such a rant is.

For Christ sake, Wilson, would you stop this "speaking for everyone"
bullshit you constantly embrace!

You don't speak for me and, while not speaking for everyone, I'd
guess there's others here with a similar view.

**YOU don't have any idea what an "anti-gun rant" is.

You're jumping to conclusions again. I know what ranting is, most of your
posts are full of it.
My comment was not specifically referring to "anti-gun rants", in fact I'd
snipped that bit deliberately from my response.
You rant about many things, AGW, guns, whatever, then proceed to use the
terms, "we" and "everybody".
Some of the things you rant about, I agree with. Equally, I disagree with
other sections of your rants.

So DON'T SPEAK FOR ME!!! You have no tight to so do and by doing so, you're
actually lying.

I am confident
in speaking for everyone here, including you.

What an arrogant comment! DON'T SPEAK FOR ME!!! You have no tight to so do
and by doing so, you're actually lying.

Unless YOU would care
to describe what an "anti-gun rant" is.

Dictionary definition of to rant is, "To speak in a loud, pompous, or
prolonged manner".
Substituting "write" for "speak" and that definition describes most of the
off topic postings you make here and in other groups. Even some of your on
topic posts also lean towards rants

Once again, for emphasis, you do not speak for me. For you to suggest you
do only shows you up as an arrogant liar!

--
Dyna

All rights reserved. All wrongs avenged.

 

[terryc]

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:14:34 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

I am confident in speaking for everyone here, including you.

Oooh, messianic. Humm, perhaps you could put up for liberal party pre-
selection for the Federal election. The current list reads Dumb and
Dumber.

 

[John - Melb]

On Oct 26, 12:12 pm, terryc <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote:

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:14:34 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:
I am confident in  speaking for everyone here, including you.

Oooh, messianic. Humm, perhaps you could put up for liberal party pre-
selection for the Federal election. The current list reads Dumb and
Dumber.

With Trevor it would read Dumb, Dumber and Confused.

 

[John - Melb]

On Oct 26, 12:21 pm, John - Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 26, 12:12 pm, terryc <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote:

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:14:34 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:
I am confident in  speaking for everyone here, including you.

Oooh, messianic. Humm, perhaps you could put up for liberal party pre-
selection for the Federal election. The current list reads Dumb and
Dumber.

With Trevor it would read Dumb, Dumber and Confused.

Sorry MEA CULPA, make that Dumb, Dumber and Pleasantly Confused.

 

[terryc]

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:33:36 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

I note that you are unable to do so either.

Why would i bother?

John has some rather unfortunate psychological problems, compounded by
the fact that he has legally owned firearms.

So he doesn't have them now?
I always thought it was a basic principle of our democracy that innocent
until proven guilty applies. Then again, I could be deluded.

That should be of concern to all of us.

A sole nutter with a gun is of very little concern in the big picture of
life. They kill very few in Australia. Medical "professionals" are a far
more immediate and concerning worry.

 

[John - Melb]

On Oct 26, 12:33 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"terryc" <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote in message

news:hc2t2k$3ja$5@news.eternal-september.org...

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:14:34 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

I am confident in  speaking for everyone here, including you.

Oooh, messianic. Humm, perhaps you could put up for liberal party pre-
selection for the Federal election. The current list reads Dumb and
Dumber.

**Not at all. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON has been able to provide a rational
description of John's terminology. Not once, not ever. I note that you are
unable to do so either. Ad hoc attacks do not qualify as an answer.

John has some rather unfortunate psychological problems, compounded by the
fact that he has legally owned firearms. That should be of concern to all of
us. People with psychological problems should not be allowed access to
firearms.

The real funny thing is that these "unfortunate psychological

problems" have never actually been diagnosed by a suitably qualified
medical professional.

The only people who claim I have "unfortunate psychological problems"
are keyboard wanna-be's like Trevor.

Trevor, please feel free to provide your qualifications to make the
diagnoses you just have?

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Phil Allison]

"terryc"

John has some rather unfortunate psychological problems, compounded by
the fact that he has legally owned firearms.

So he doesn't have them now?

** Learn to read - dickhead.

Both the claims made above by TW are in the PRESENT tense.

I always thought it was a basic principle of our democracy that innocent
until proven guilty applies.

** Your thinking is WRONG - pal.

The principle you allude to is a *notional rule* used in court proceedings
ONLY.

Then again, I could be deluded.

** Self delusion is more like it - the self delusion that you have any
capacity for rational thought.

That should be of concern to all of us.

A sole nutter with a gun is of very little concern in the big picture of
life.

** Fraid it is a very big concern to any person such a " nutter" comes into
contact with.

They kill very few in Australia. Medical "professionals" are a far
more immediate and concerning worry.

** Only in your demented opinion.


...... Phil

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:7kikr6F39plbpU1@mid.individual.net...

"Trevor Wilson"


Welp..... that explains John-Melb's in a nutshell: poisoned and a
poisonous mess.

**Of course. Lead poisoning is a possible explanation for his
particular pathology.


** TW is speaking from deep personal experience here.

Cos TW was diagnosed with serious lead poisoning some years ago.

There was an item about it, from TW himself, in the old EA magazine's
"Forum" pages.

Lead poisoning, the resultant illnesses including MADNESS brought
down the Roman Empire.

Et tu - Trevor Wilson ??

**All true. I still have my blood lead levels regularly tested. Do
you?
FWIW: My lead level is now below that of an average Sydney resident.
Is yours?

ANYONE who works with lead products should do themselves a huge
favour and be tested regularly. That includes shooters, people wo
work with lead solder and other lead products.

Not a bad idea actually, thanks for the prompting.
My wife is certain I'm crazy, so perhaps it is all that lead solder :-/
I assume it's a test you can get at your regular GP?

**I have mine tested at a specialist GP who familiar with such things. Hair
analysis is another method which seems to work well too.

I just found this:
http://www.lead.org.au/fs/fst46.html

**Sobering stuff indeed. Perhaps John should pay close attention to the
following words:

---
Shooters should particularly be required to have blood lead tests before
they ever take up a gun (or apply for a licence) and shortly after beginning
their training, especially if they practice at an indoor firing range.
Regular blood lead monitoring will let your doctor know whether you have the
genotype or shooting frequency that dictate that you really are not safe to
use a gun.
---

FWIW: I believe that my lead poisoning problem occured via leaded petrol. I
lived close to a major road for many years. Since diagnosis, I acquired a
fume extractor for my workbench and I take MUCH more care in the handling of
solder, even though I doubt that solder was ever much of a problem.
Inhalation of lead is likely to be a far greater problem. This occurs for
those who strip lead paint from surfaces and, of course, for regular
shooters, who inhale lead particles from bullets and from primers.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:hc2v46$3ja$7@news.eternal-september.org...

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:33:36 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

I note that you are unable to do so either.

Why would i bother?

**Because you jumped in on the thread at a point where I was asking for
clarification.

John has some rather unfortunate psychological problems, compounded by
the fact that he has legally owned firearms.

So he doesn't have them now?

**Read what I wrote.

I always thought it was a basic principle of our democracy that innocent
until proven guilty applies. Then again, I could be deluded.

**Could be. That's not how it works in the real world. Many people, for
instance are strictly prohibited from driving automobiles. Many are
forbidden to own firearms. All for damned good reasons. No court of law is
required for these determinations. No 'guilt' nor 'innocence' has to be
determined.

That should be of concern to all of us.

A sole nutter with a gun is of very little concern in the big picture of
life.

**Wait 'till YOU stare down the wrong end of a barrel sometime. I have. It
is a most unpleasant experience. It demonstrated, with absolutely clarity,
just how banal Australian gun control laws are/were. And further: You are
wrong. One nutter with a gun can and has caused enormous problems for a
large number of people.

They kill very few in Australia. Medical "professionals" are a far

more immediate and concerning worry.

**Jeez. Where do you get this stuff from? The NRA handbook of bullshit? Sure
medical professionals make mistakes. None are perfect. On a very fundamental
level, however, we see medical professionals because our health is
compromised. It is hardly surprising that some of us die under their care
(or lack of it). Still, I bet that next time you get sick, you will visit a
medical professional, in preference to your local gun dealer. Your local gun
dealer is unlikely to be able to do much to diagnose and treat whatever is
wrong with you.

If you still feel that medical prefessionals are hopeless, then I suggest
that you either:

* Do nothing if your health is seriously compromised.
* Visit your local gun dealer if your health is seriously compromised.

For my part, I'll place my trust in the medical system.

I betcha I have a better chance of surviving.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[F Murtz]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:hc2v46$3ja$7@news.eternal-september.org...
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:33:36 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

I note that you are unable to do so either.
Why would i bother?

**Because you jumped in on the thread at a point where I was asking for
clarification.


John has some rather unfortunate psychological problems, compounded by
the fact that he has legally owned firearms.
So he doesn't have them now?

**Read what I wrote.

I always thought it was a basic principle of our democracy that innocent
until proven guilty applies. Then again, I could be deluded.

**Could be. That's not how it works in the real world. Many people, for
instance are strictly prohibited from driving automobiles. Many are
forbidden to own firearms. All for damned good reasons. No court of law is
required for these determinations. No 'guilt' nor 'innocence' has to be
determined.

That should be of concern to all of us.
A sole nutter with a gun is of very little concern in the big picture of
life.

**Wait 'till YOU stare down the wrong end of a barrel sometime. I have. It
is a most unpleasant experience. It demonstrated, with absolutely clarity,
just how banal Australian gun control laws are/were. And further: You are
wrong. One nutter with a gun can and has caused enormous problems for a
large number of people.

It is becoming clearer, bad firearm experience, lead poisoning.

They kill very few in Australia. Medical "professionals" are a far
more immediate and concerning worry.

**Jeez. Where do you get this stuff from? The NRA handbook of bullshit? Sure
medical professionals make mistakes. None are perfect. On a very fundamental
level, however, we see medical professionals because our health is
compromised. It is hardly surprising that some of us die under their care
(or lack of it). Still, I bet that next time you get sick, you will visit a
medical professional, in preference to your local gun dealer. Your local gun
dealer is unlikely to be able to do much to diagnose and treat whatever is
wrong with you.

If you still feel that medical prefessionals are hopeless, then I suggest
that you either:

* Do nothing if your health is seriously compromised.
* Visit your local gun dealer if your health is seriously compromised.

For my part, I'll place my trust in the medical system.

I betcha I have a better chance of surviving.

 

[kreed]

On Oct 26, 10:11 am, "Dyna Soar"
<dynasoar..REMOVE..THI...@ozdebate.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
None of us here has any idea what such a rant is.

For Christ sake, Wilson, would you stop this "speaking for everyone"
bullshit you constantly embrace!

You don't speak for me and, while not speaking for everyone, I'd guess
there's others here with a similar view.

--
Dyna

All rights reserved. All wrongs avenged.

I agree with that. He rarely speaks for me,
and never for me when he talks non-electronics/technical related
matters.

 

[kreed]

On Oct 26, 11:32 am, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:7kikr6F39plbpU1@mid.individual.net...

"Trevor Wilson"

Welp..... that explains John-Melb's in a nutshell: poisoned and a
poisonous mess.

**Of course. Lead poisoning is a possible explanation for his
particular pathology.

** TW is speaking from deep personal experience here.

Cos TW was diagnosed with serious lead poisoning some years ago.

There was an item about it, from TW himself, in the old EA magazine's
"Forum" pages.

Lead poisoning, the resultant illnesses including MADNESS brought
down the Roman Empire.

Et tu - Trevor Wilson ??

**All true. I still have my blood lead levels regularly tested. Do
you?
FWIW: My lead level is now below that of an average Sydney resident.
Is yours?

I would check too, but if its high, Trev makes it obvious that the
brain damage that it does, is either NOT reversible or takes decades
to come good.

ANYONE who works with lead products should do themselves a huge
favour and be tested regularly. That includes shooters, people wo
work with lead solder and other lead products.

Not a bad idea actually, thanks for the prompting.
My wife is certain I'm crazy, so perhaps it is all that lead solder :-/
I assume it's a test you can get at your regular GP?

Wives always think stuff like that.
Mine just doesn't say it, but Im sure she thinks it

I just found this:http://www.lead.org.au/fs/fst46.html

Dave.

--
================================================
Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast:http://www.eevblog.com

 

[John - Melb]

On Oct 26, 12:10 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"John - Melb" <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1fae717c-a4d4-440f-90d3-5b80c37212fc@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 26, 11:29 am, "Trevor Wilson"

tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
Please cite my alleged "anti-gun rants" on aus.electronics.

-------------------------------------------
On Jun 16, 3:21 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**Despite the fact that VASTLY more Americans carry guns around the
streets,
legally, the US remains the most dangerous, deadly Western, developed
Democratic nations. Carrying guns achieves, at best, nothing. At worst, it
leads to more violence and death. In fact, the US homicide rate is
presently
3 times the Australian one.

**Idiot. I posted a fact. Nothing "anti-gun" there.

Really CITE?

------------------------------------------------------------

On Jun 18, 12:54 pm, "Trevor Wilson"

tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
**Yes. Easily. Across the US, each year, there are hundreds of 'gun
shows'.
At these 'gun shows' dealers, posing as private citizens sell thousands of
guns to criminals. They can do so, because there are virtually zero
restrictions on the sale of 'second hand' guns. Even if that gun has only
been 'second hand' for a couple of minutes and has never been fired. Here
in
Australia (and pretty much the rest of the developed world) ALL gun sales
must be recorded and tracked. Even secondary sales. Such an action ensures
that fewer guns end up in the hands of criminals.

**Again. More facts. Nothing "anti-gun" there.

Really CITE?

----------------------------------------------------
On Jun 18, 3:40 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**Oh yeah: Two more things:
* If I was to crosspost (which I never do) I would never involve those
psychopaths in the talk.politics.guns group with normal humans.

**Yep. They ARE psychos. No doubt about it. Nothing "anti-gun" there.

Really CITE?

 -------------------------------------------------
On Jun 17, 9:40 am, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

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**The figures for people legitemately shooting alleged criminals (I say
alleged, because in places like Texas, it would seem that the authorites
are
now prepared to accept the word of the 'last man standing', as to the
legitemacy of the shooting) are miniscule in the extreme. FBI figures show
that, in the US, something like 400-odd people are shot and killed by
police
in so-called 'justifiable homicide' acts each year. This figure needs to
be
examined in the same light as the number killed by civilians in similar
circumstances. The figure for civilians is approximately 230 PA. That
figure
needs to be tempered by the inadequacies of the laws in places like Texas,
where lip service is paid by LEOs under many circumstances. Additionally,
one must bear in mind that the number of civilians killed by gunshot each
year in the US is approximately 10,000. Clearly, carrying guns for self
defence purposes is a failed experiment. It is an experiment that many of
the nutters in the pro-gun lobby, here in Australia, wish to duplicate.
These are the same individuals who seem to feel that shooting native ducks
and other indigenous critters is, somehow, sporting. They seem to consider
that the indiscriminate spraying of lead shot into pristine environments,
whilst causing the needless suffering of wild animals is all in a good
cause.

**More facts. Nothing "anti-gun" there.

Really CITE?

So, if we understand you correctly, this is your claim (since you
steadfastly refuse to clarify your words):

Anyone who posts facts and figures about gun ownership or gun related
violence, is automatically engaged in an "anti-gun rant". Is that about it?
What you are therefore suggesting is that we should all pretend that,
although SOME gun owners have serious problems, we should let it slide.
Sorry. It's not going to happen. SOME gun owners should NEVER have access to
firearms.

Nup, never said that.
You, fundamentally, have a problem with the truth. I can understand that,
given your pathology.

Seek help urgently.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

 

[terryc]

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:29:39 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

That should be of concern to all of us.

A sole nutter with a gun is of very little concern in the big picture
of life.

**Wait 'till YOU stare down the wrong end of a barrel sometime. I have.
It is a most unpleasant experience.

I'm sure it is, but it is the best place to be if you are the target.

where It demonstrated, with absolutely
clarity, just how banal Australian gun control laws are/were.

Right On, criminals always obey the law.

And
further: You are wrong. One nutter with a gun can and has caused
enormous problems for a large number of people.

Apart from MB, who ?

They kill very few in Australia. Medical "professionals" are a far
more immediate and concerning worry.

**Jeez. Where do you get this stuff from?

Look up the stats.

I betcha I have a better chance of surviving.

Not from your comments above.

 

[terryc]

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:40:27 +1100, Phil Allison wrote:

"terryc"

John has some rather unfortunate psychological problems, compounded by
the fact that he has legally owned firearms.

So he doesn't have them now?

** Learn to read - dickhead.

Both the claims made above by TW are in the PRESENT tense.

I take it that neither of you are candidates for the clear english prize.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:hc3gn8$dfk$2@news.eternal-september.org...

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:29:39 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

That should be of concern to all of us.

A sole nutter with a gun is of very little concern in the big picture
of life.

**Wait 'till YOU stare down the wrong end of a barrel sometime. I have.
It is a most unpleasant experience.

I'm sure it is, but it is the best place to be if you are the target.

where It demonstrated, with absolutely
clarity, just how banal Australian gun control laws are/were.

Right On, criminals always obey the law.

**The fuckwit who pointed a gun at me was a legal, licensed owner. A
complete idiot who should NEVER have had access to any firearm, yet the
power-that-be seemed oblivious to his obvious psychological problems. Until
we have psychological testing of ALL gun owners, these sorts of problems
will persist.

And
further: You are wrong. One nutter with a gun can and has caused
enormous problems for a large number of people.

Apart from MB, who ?

**In Australia? Try:
* Julian Knight (Hoddle Street Massacre)
* Wade Frankum (Strathfield Massacre)
* Ivan Milat (Backpacker Murders)
* Frank Vitkovic (Queen Street Massacre)
* Malcolm Baker (Central Coast Massare)
* Joseph Schwab (The Kimberly Killer)

They kill very few in Australia. Medical "professionals" are a far
more immediate and concerning worry.

**Jeez. Where do you get this stuff from?

Look up the stats.

**I have. Very few medical professionals use their craft to commit murder.

I betcha I have a better chance of surviving.

Not from your comments above.

**Like I said: Next time you are gravely ill, you visit your local gun
dealer. I bet you don't.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 26, 11:32 am, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:7kikr6F39plbpU1@mid.individual.net...

"Trevor Wilson"

Welp..... that explains John-Melb's in a nutshell: poisoned and a
poisonous mess.

**Of course. Lead poisoning is a possible explanation for his
particular pathology.

** TW is speaking from deep personal experience here.

Cos TW was diagnosed with serious lead poisoning some years ago.

There was an item about it, from TW himself, in the old EA magazine's
"Forum" pages.

Lead poisoning, the resultant illnesses including MADNESS brought
down the Roman Empire.

Et tu - Trevor Wilson ??

**All true. I still have my blood lead levels regularly tested. Do
you?
FWIW: My lead level is now below that of an average Sydney resident.
Is yours?


I would check too, but if its high, Trev makes it obvious that the
brain damage that it does, is either NOT reversible or takes decades
to come good.

**How so? Are you saying that, because I place my faith in facts, figures
and science, that I am, somehow, brain damaged? Is that your contention?
Should I, for instance, place my faith in religion, the NRA and the fossil
fuel lobbyists instead? Please elaborate. I'll stick with the facts, 'till
proven otherwise thanks very much.

FYI: I am (relatively) lead-free and have been so for more than 15 years (my
blood lead level is lower than an average Sydney resident). How about you?
What is your lead level? When was it last tested?


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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au