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bigdaddy
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I like to buy cheap ESR Meter in UK. Any pointers please. Thanks.
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kip
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Why has it got to be Cheap !!
Even a very good one is not expensive.
kip
Search Dick Smith
"bigdaddy" <NOspamMZBEG@notsoblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I like to buy cheap ESR Meter in UK. Any pointers please. Thanks.
Even a very good one is not expensive.
kip
Search Dick Smith
"bigdaddy" <NOspamMZBEG@notsoblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I like to buy cheap ESR Meter in UK. Any pointers please. Thanks.
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Fastvale
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"kip" <kip@our.ca> ha scritto nel messaggio
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Costs 21 euro plus shipping plus eventually the magazine at 4,10.
I've been using it for long time to check caps on bloody tv. Just today I
solved a problem on a Sony.Perfect!
Here details:
www.nuovaelettronica.it/it/pop/index.cfm?fb=scheda_kit&w.kit_id=4899
Believe me, very performing!
Fastvale
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Cheap but professional, in Kit at the most professional kit outlet here.
Costs 21 euro plus shipping plus eventually the magazine at 4,10.
I've been using it for long time to check caps on bloody tv. Just today I
solved a problem on a Sony.Perfect!
Here details:
www.nuovaelettronica.it/it/pop/index.cfm?fb=scheda_kit&w.kit_id=4899
Believe me, very performing!
Fastvale
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Bob Parker
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That's a new one to me. 
ESR meters and schematics for them seem
to be popping up like mushrooms these days. Which is good, because
they do save a lot of time when repairing gear which is more than a
couple of years old, or which runs hot internally.
I just did a Google search for --> ESR meter site:.uk <-- which
brought up a variety of sources for them in England.
Good luck.
Bob
"Fastvale" <fastvale@webnet.it> wrote:
ESR meters and schematics for them seemto be popping up like mushrooms these days. Which is good, because
they do save a lot of time when repairing gear which is more than a
couple of years old, or which runs hot internally.
I just did a Google search for --> ESR meter site:.uk <-- which
brought up a variety of sources for them in England.
Good luck.
Bob
"Fastvale" <fastvale@webnet.it> wrote:
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Bram Stolk
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Buy a goodone, it pays off. Suggest you check with Portugese design marketed
by Vitor
Read the Worldwide comments on
http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal/comments/comments.html
"bigdaddy" <NOspamMZBEG@notsoblueyonder.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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>I like to buy cheap ESR Meter in UK. Any pointers please. Thanks.
by Vitor
Read the Worldwide comments on
http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal/comments/comments.html
"bigdaddy" <NOspamMZBEG@notsoblueyonder.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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>I like to buy cheap ESR Meter in UK. Any pointers please. Thanks.
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Ross Herbert
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:41:34 +0200, "Bram Stolk"
<bram2.stolk@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
manufactured under license to Bob Parker. The design is his and is
Australian, not Portugese.
Compare
http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal/evb1.htm
with the original
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/esrmeter.htm
<bram2.stolk@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
Without trying to steal Bob Parker's thunder, this EVB unit is
manufactured under license to Bob Parker. The design is his and is
Australian, not Portugese.
Compare
http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal/evb1.htm
with the original
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/esrmeter.htm
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Ross Herbert
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:20:59 GMT, Ross Herbert
<rherber1SPAMEX@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
design but the components etc are the same.
<rherber1SPAMEX@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Of course the casing and finish of the EVB unit is different to Bob's
design but the components etc are the same.
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Bob Parker
Guest
Ross Herbert <rherber1SPAMEX@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Thanks Ross.
I collaborated closely with EVB in getting that version of the
meter finalized. It does have more protection against charged caps
than my original circuit (big fat diodes). The components are high
quality, plus it uses the very bright red Kingbright displays I
originally specified, whereas the DSE meter has cheaper
moderate-brightness orange displays.
I think the EVB meter's really good.
Regards,
Bob
Thanks Ross.
I collaborated closely with EVB in getting that version of the
meter finalized. It does have more protection against charged caps
than my original circuit (big fat diodes). The components are high
quality, plus it uses the very bright red Kingbright displays I
originally specified, whereas the DSE meter has cheaper
moderate-brightness orange displays.
I think the EVB meter's really good.
Regards,
Bob
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cl
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"Bob Parker" <bobpdeletethis@despammed.com> wrote in message
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few times of getting one, haven't as yet. Who distributes the meters in this
thread - of Mr. Parker or whomever? I seen him list EVB, I'm not familiar
with them - at least not to my ever growing feeble mindedness and subsequent
knowledge or lack thereof. What sort of price tag are they carrying. Also, I
seen one made by Tenma, is it of any quality? I'd like to buy a good one
when I do go to buy one. Any I should look at if I can't find "a" particular
model/brand? Any I should definitely steer clear of? Any particular specs it
should have to make it stand out over another model?
Thanks,
cl
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I've seen posts on the ESR meters here and there and though I've thought aRoss Herbert <rherber1SPAMEX@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:20:59 GMT, Ross Herbert
rherber1SPAMEX@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Without trying to steal Bob Parker's thunder, this EVB unit is
manufactured under license to Bob Parker. The design is his and is
Australian, not Portugese.
Compare
http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal/evb1.htm
with the original
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/esrmeter.htm
Of course the casing and finish of the EVB unit is different to Bob's
design but the components etc are the same.
Thanks Ross.
I collaborated closely with EVB in getting that version of the
meter finalized. It does have more protection against charged caps
than my original circuit (big fat diodes). The components are high
quality, plus it uses the very bright red Kingbright displays I
originally specified, whereas the DSE meter has cheaper
moderate-brightness orange displays.
I think the EVB meter's really good.
Regards,
Bob
few times of getting one, haven't as yet. Who distributes the meters in this
thread - of Mr. Parker or whomever? I seen him list EVB, I'm not familiar
with them - at least not to my ever growing feeble mindedness and subsequent
knowledge or lack thereof. What sort of price tag are they carrying. Also, I
seen one made by Tenma, is it of any quality? I'd like to buy a good one
when I do go to buy one. Any I should look at if I can't find "a" particular
model/brand? Any I should definitely steer clear of? Any particular specs it
should have to make it stand out over another model?
Thanks,
cl
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NSM
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"cl" <clfurentN@Syahoo.com> wrote in message
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been in there a time or two.
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John's Jukes in Vancouver, BC (on Main Street) distributes a good one. I've
been in there a time or two.
N
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NSM
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"Ross Herbert" <rherber1SPAMEX@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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One of the mentioned units is an adaptor for a multimeter. Interesting idea.
N
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John Bachman
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:32:01 GMT, "NSM" <nowrite@to.me> wrote:
http://www.anatekcorp.com/testequipment/esrcompar.htm
I know that the page is ugly. We are working on it.
John
The Electronic Repair Center at www.anatekcorp.com
Professional electronic repair discussions at
www.anatekcorp.com/elrepair/elrepair.htm
some time ago. You can see it at
http://www.anatekcorp.com/testequipment/esrcompar.htm
I know that the page is ugly. We are working on it.
John
The Electronic Repair Center at www.anatekcorp.com
Professional electronic repair discussions at
www.anatekcorp.com/elrepair/elrepair.htm
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cl
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"John Bachman" <johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.REMOVEcom> wrote in message
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rest! At least you have one. I'm still stuck in the 19th century waiting to
get one online. One of these days!!!!!! Thanks for the tip, I'll check it
out.
cl
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Ugly or not, so long as it gives me the info I need, I can overlook the
rest! At least you have one. I'm still stuck in the 19th century waiting to
get one online. One of these days!!!!!! Thanks for the tip, I'll check it
out.
cl
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Ross Herbert
Guest
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:11:02 -0500, John Bachman
<johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.REMOVEcom> wrote:
carry the Dick Smith kit
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/424cf88109b9f468273fc0a87f9c075f/Product/View/K7214
"Anatek experienced degradation in the components supplied with this
meter and stopped carrying it in March 2005."
Without knowing who was making up the kits Anatek was stocking it is
not possible to know where the fault lay with regard to the alleged
"degradation in components". Bob Parker, the designer, specified high
quality but readily available components even in the Mk1 version
described in Electronics Australia, January 1996. Resistors were
specified as 5% (which would have been carbon composition), except for
the critical units which were 1% metal film. Capacitors were either
MKT film, RB Electro's, monolithic X7R or ceramic NPO as the case
required. Given the possibility that the Anatek kit supplier may have
deviated from the original parts specification it might have been
possible for the degradation to occur, but it would not have been the
case if Bob Parker had any say in the matter. At the time of the Mk2
release in April 2004, over 12,000 Mk1 kits had been sold, most being
made to customers outside Australia. Surely this is testament to a
well designed and reliable unit. With the release of the Mk2 kits in
April 2004 all resistors are now specified as 1% (which means all
metal film) while all other components are still high quality units.
For those in the USA you can obtain the Mk2 kit from John Juke's
http://www.flippers.com/esrktord-form.html or Main Electronics
http://www.mainelectronics.com/esrkit.htm
<johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.REMOVEcom> wrote:
I notice that the ESR comparison page states that Anatek ceased to
carry the Dick Smith kit
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/424cf88109b9f468273fc0a87f9c075f/Product/View/K7214
"Anatek experienced degradation in the components supplied with this
meter and stopped carrying it in March 2005."
Without knowing who was making up the kits Anatek was stocking it is
not possible to know where the fault lay with regard to the alleged
"degradation in components". Bob Parker, the designer, specified high
quality but readily available components even in the Mk1 version
described in Electronics Australia, January 1996. Resistors were
specified as 5% (which would have been carbon composition), except for
the critical units which were 1% metal film. Capacitors were either
MKT film, RB Electro's, monolithic X7R or ceramic NPO as the case
required. Given the possibility that the Anatek kit supplier may have
deviated from the original parts specification it might have been
possible for the degradation to occur, but it would not have been the
case if Bob Parker had any say in the matter. At the time of the Mk2
release in April 2004, over 12,000 Mk1 kits had been sold, most being
made to customers outside Australia. Surely this is testament to a
well designed and reliable unit. With the release of the Mk2 kits in
April 2004 all resistors are now specified as 1% (which means all
metal film) while all other components are still high quality units.
For those in the USA you can obtain the Mk2 kit from John Juke's
http://www.flippers.com/esrktord-form.html or Main Electronics
http://www.mainelectronics.com/esrkit.htm
J
John Bachman
Guest
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 08:05:24 GMT, Ross Herbert
<rherber1SPAMEX@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
holes making reliable assembly difficult. There were also missing
parts. That was more than a year ago, so perhaps those problems have
been solved.
At the same time DSE mislabeled a large shipment to us but charged our
credit card anyway. We found out about the mislabling when one box
out of the four arrived by some miracle. It had no city, state or zip
code on it and the street address had no number, just the street name
but somehow made it to an ajacent town whose name is the same as our
street name. The postmaster looked AnaTek up in the phone directory
and found us. That is how we saw the mislabling.
DSE insisted that we pay for the entire shipment and we refused and
disputed the charge. The shipment costs were charged back to DSE who
now refuse to ship with us as if all this were our fault.
Therefore, we can no longer offer the DSE items. Frankly, I miss
handling Bob's designs as they are good, but I do not miss DSE.
John
AnaTek Corporation
<rherber1SPAMEX@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
The quality problems we encountered were poor pc board tracks and
holes making reliable assembly difficult. There were also missing
parts. That was more than a year ago, so perhaps those problems have
been solved.
At the same time DSE mislabeled a large shipment to us but charged our
credit card anyway. We found out about the mislabling when one box
out of the four arrived by some miracle. It had no city, state or zip
code on it and the street address had no number, just the street name
but somehow made it to an ajacent town whose name is the same as our
street name. The postmaster looked AnaTek up in the phone directory
and found us. That is how we saw the mislabling.
DSE insisted that we pay for the entire shipment and we refused and
disputed the charge. The shipment costs were charged back to DSE who
now refuse to ship with us as if all this were our fault.
Therefore, we can no longer offer the DSE items. Frankly, I miss
handling Bob's designs as they are good, but I do not miss DSE.
John
AnaTek Corporation
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Bob Parker
Guest
I was always afraid that things might get this bad after Fiona left
DSE, and unfortunately it got even worse than I imagined was possible.
It's a pity that EVB aren't interested in producing and selling
those ESR meters at a sensible price and in quantity. Oh well. Just a
few thoughts I've been having....
Bob
John Bachman <johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.REMOVEcom> wrote:
DSE, and unfortunately it got even worse than I imagined was possible.
It's a pity that EVB aren't interested in producing and selling
those ESR meters at a sensible price and in quantity. Oh well. Just a
few thoughts I've been having....
Bob
John Bachman <johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.REMOVEcom> wrote:
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Bob Parker
Guest
You don't need to spend up big to measure capacitor ESR. You can do
it for about 99 cents!
Take your browser to http://octopus.freeyellow.com/esr.html and see
what I mean.
Bob
"cl" <clfurentN@Syahoo.com> wrote:
it for about 99 cents!
Take your browser to http://octopus.freeyellow.com/esr.html and see
what I mean.
Bob
"cl" <clfurentN@Syahoo.com> wrote:
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John Bachman
Guest
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 04:57:10 +1000, Bob Parker
<bobpdeletethis@despammed.com> wrote:
up the ball and run with it.
I sure hope so. Hate to lose a good product because of organizational
stupitidy.
John
<bobpdeletethis@despammed.com> wrote:
Maybe a DSE person is lurking about here. If so, maybe he will pick
up the ball and run with it.
I sure hope so. Hate to lose a good product because of organizational
stupitidy.
John
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budgie
Guest
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 06:33:39 -0500, John Bachman
<johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.REMOVEcom> wrote:
(snip)
a valid part of the electronics scene. But that was a loooooong time ago.
<johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.REMOVEcom> wrote:
(snip)
Most of us here in Australia don't miss DSE either. Once upon a time they were
a valid part of the electronics scene. But that was a loooooong time ago.
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Bob Parker
Guest
Years ago I wouldn't have said anything negative about DSE's
service to overseas customers. But the ongoing sloppy careless
couldn't-give-a-damn attitude of the people who replaced Fiona is so
well known that I'm not going to defend them.
That's the reason that I've got the EVB version of the ESR meter at
the top of my ESR meter web page. If DSE loses a large chunk of their
overseas sales of the kits, it's because they brought it on
themselves. I just wish that EVB would make and sell that version of
the meter in quantity at a sensible price.
Thanks for your nice thoughts about the basic ESR meter design.
Much appreciated.
Bob
John Bachman <johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.REMOVEcom> wrote:
service to overseas customers. But the ongoing sloppy careless
couldn't-give-a-damn attitude of the people who replaced Fiona is so
well known that I'm not going to defend them.
That's the reason that I've got the EVB version of the ESR meter at
the top of my ESR meter web page. If DSE loses a large chunk of their
overseas sales of the kits, it's because they brought it on
themselves. I just wish that EVB would make and sell that version of
the meter in quantity at a sensible price.
Thanks for your nice thoughts about the basic ESR meter design.
Much appreciated.
Bob
John Bachman <johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.REMOVEcom> wrote: