England's Death Valley

On 31/03/20 02:00, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-03-30 04:25, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 30/03/20 01:36, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-03-29 19:36, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 29/03/20 22:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-03-29 17:30, Adrian Tuddenham wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-03-29 09:57, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2020-03-29 15:20, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Looking up the length of Great Britain, I discover that there's a place
in Cambridgeshire called Holme Fen that is ten feet below sea level.

I get how that could happen in the desert, but in England???

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


It was drained using steam-driven pumps in 1851.

Jeroen Belleman

Yeah, but why does it stay dry?  Have they kept pumping for 170 years?

That is just a fleeting moment in England's long history.

In Somerset there are areas of land at, or just below, *average* sea
level.  The water is pumped into rhines (canals) slightly above the land
level and large lock gates are opened to empty it at low tide. Then the
gates are closed to prevent the high tide flooding back.

It's just like deriving a negative supply from a sinewave centred on, or
just above, zero.


Ten feet is a long way for a tidal system.  BC and Nova Scotia get tides
like that, but most places don't.  Plus it depends on the phase of the moon.

I see a 3.4m tidal range every day - or at least I
did before last week. Storm surges can add another
metre so that it flows over the top of lock gates
in the city center.

I also see the river suddenly get up to 2m deeper
(with surfers travelling upstream) and start
flowing backwards.

But that is on the other side of the country,
the River Severn.

The Severn has a tidal resonance like Fundy, doesn't it?

The other local phenomenon is that Southampton gets
4 high/low tides a day, as the water goes up the
English Channel and around both sides of the Isle
of Wight.


Was Chebyshev from Southampton? ;)

(Opportunities to make numerical analysis jokes don't come round that often.)

It /does/ look like that, doesn't it - or at least
a really badly terminated transmission line :)
https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/station/1034
https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/station/9264

OTOH on the Severn at Portbury Docks there is a
nice sinewave.
https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/station/3014

A bit further upstream at Sharpness Docks it looks
more like a half-wave rectified signal (the docks/canal
are behind lock gates)
https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/station/2071

Further upstream at Minsterworth, where the bore
is at its highest, it looks like an RC response
to an impulse.
https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/station/2051
 
On 29/03/2020 14:20, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Looking up the length of Great Britain, I discover that there's a place
in Cambridgeshire called Holme Fen that is ten feet below sea level.

I get how that could happen in the desert, but in England???

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
It's not far away from where I live. It's fun watching the SatNav info
go negative when I drive over to the A1 main road though there.
 
In article <r5v1v4$ujk$1@dont-email.me>, news@rgjones.screaming.net
says...
On 29/03/2020 14:20, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Looking up the length of Great Britain, I discover that there's a place
in Cambridgeshire called Holme Fen that is ten feet below sea level.

I get how that could happen in the desert, but in England???

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It's not far away from where I live. It's fun watching the SatNav info
go negative when I drive over to the A1 main road though there.

Does it bleep a warning? They've missed a trick!

Mike.
 
On 2020-03-31 14:39, Mike Coon wrote:
In article <r5v1v4$ujk$1@dont-email.me>, news@rgjones.screaming.net
says...

On 29/03/2020 14:20, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Looking up the length of Great Britain, I discover that there's a place
in Cambridgeshire called Holme Fen that is ten feet below sea level.

I get how that could happen in the desert, but in England???

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It's not far away from where I live. It's fun watching the SatNav info
go negative when I drive over to the A1 main road though there.

Does it bleep a warning? They've missed a trick!

Mike.

"Pull up! Pull up!" ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 1/4/20 7:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-03-31 14:39, Mike Coon wrote:
In article <r5v1v4$ujk$1@dont-email.me>, news@rgjones.screaming.net
says...

On 29/03/2020 14:20, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Looking up the length of Great Britain, I discover that there's a place
in Cambridgeshire called Holme Fen that is ten feet below sea level.

I get how that could happen in the desert, but in England???

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It's not far away from where I live. It's fun watching the SatNav info
go negative when I drive over to the A1 main road though there.

Does it bleep a warning? They've missed a trick!

Mike.

"Pull up! Pull up!"  ;)

"Terrain..... terrain...... terrain......."

CH
 

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